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(OP) User ID: 83800114 Germany 09/29/2022 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't worry about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73794491 Seriously. Don't worry about it. It won't be Europe that gets fucked over. It'll be the US. We'll end up supplying all the fuel that Europe needs this winter, at the expense of US consumers. I don't think so..because it takes time to supply us because 'gesturing at all the water the tankers have to cross' |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76735334 United States 09/29/2022 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Step 2 portable solar charger Step 3 12v car battery with power inverter You can stay warm long at night and even put a panel in the window while the battery is charging you will be warm. This is not a way to heat a whole house just for survival purposes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65349401 Canada 09/29/2022 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. Build an igloo. I heard the get very hot inside. 2. Buy a wind proof tent or sew one your self. 3. Get wind blocking material cover the windows like curtains. 4. Buy silicone or tape and seal house properly. 5. Create a small underground fire pit outside near your home or backyard. 6. Get a tent and use it inside. 7. Buy extra blankets and double cover. 8. By firestarting kits |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84281443 Czechia 09/29/2022 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Relax OP your not alone and you have been reading to much news.. You are not alone, there are 80 million in Germany and thats just there, most of them are lower to middle class and will not be able to pay that to heat their homes either.. If shit goes to far south they will revolt on the streets and the goverment will probably collapse. The germans have revolted against much less dire situations and it seems that at least in the last few weeks many of them are waking up and protesting to turn the Nordstream back on... I know not possible now, but atleast they have the right idea.. Anyways Alot of chaos should go down before you would watch any of your loved ones freezing to death... Anyway I think if they have got you so afraid then they have won, its fear that is really the weapon here. |
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(OP) User ID: 83800114 Germany 09/29/2022 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's that simple. I tried to sell stuff, get extra by housekeeping jobs. All used for sudden car repair and a hospital stay of the kid (treatment is free by insurance, but not staying with your child). Igloo ..lol. I'd love to, kid probably, too, but our winters don't have enough snow over here. And in the meantime....? |
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(OP) User ID: 83800114 Germany 09/29/2022 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Relax OP your not alone and you have been reading to much news.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84281443 You are not alone, there are 80 million in Germany and thats just there, most of them are lower to middle class and will not be able to pay that to heat their homes either.. If shit goes to far south they will revolt on the streets and the goverment will probably collapse. The germans have revolted against much less dire situations and it seems that at least in the last few weeks many of them are waking up and protesting to turn the Nordstream back on... I know not possible now, but atleast they have the right idea.. Anyways Alot of chaos should go down before you would watch any of your loved ones freezing to death... Anyway I think if they have got you so afraid then they have won, its fear that is really the weapon here. So why do we have our own homeland security military ready stating Oct 1st then? And the new corona regulations? (officially military is there to help with noncompliance and catastrophes...) [link to de.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] [link to amp.dw.com (secure)] I don't think we'll go protesting... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84207148 United States 09/29/2022 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I lived in the country side of Spain off grid We had to truck in our own water and had a generator Even with a fire place it was a cold winter with 18 ft high ceilings.... So I feel for you and your children, and I am so sorry you face such horrible things.... I grew up in Germany and learned many things from my oma about living through cold German winters after WW11 Here are some suggestions: Never take showers at night Always in the morning Use oil on your skin after the shower Never leave your house with damp hair If mornings are cold have your clothes out on the bed and change clothes in bed then get out For heat: If you have a gas oven or electric heat it up turn it on set a little fan to blow the air 10 minutes should take the cold edge off Go to a dollar store or Aldis or similar Buy tea candles NOT made in China Buy some clay flower pots Light the candles and place the flower pot over Now you have a heat source for about 4 hours it’s very efficient heat! You tube it The are a few people who will show you how or what I mean I am telling you first hand it is very good heat source even if you live in an apt And inexpensive as you can buy 100 tea candles for less then 20 euros They burn for about 4 hours And you can set them up in every room as long as you are careful.... Just make sure the base is fireproof heat your bed and your children’s with a water bottle Before bed time.... if you get fevers Wrap your calves with damp cold towels...it will bring a fever down fast For the mold go buy baking soda Sprinkle it where it’s damp and getting moldy Let it sit and then vacuum or sweep it up Go to the hard ware store and buy window cling to seal and cover your windows for the winter stop the cold air coming in again makes a huge difference So does making a door stop and putting it at the base of your outside door Good and easy craft project you can make with an old sweatshirt and some rice You can also make easily those rice pillows that you can microwave Or buy one they are for muscle aches they stay warm for a LONG TIME Body heat escapes through the head so wear a hat get a Dog to snuggle with and keep you and your family safe :) God Speed keep the faith and stay strong |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76735334 United States 09/29/2022 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know you mean good. But the ones suggesting I should buy a pellet stove or car batteries and solar panels, I don't have the money for it. Quoting: Phoenixe2 It's that simple. I tried to sell stuff, get extra by housekeeping jobs. All used for sudden car repair and a hospital stay of the kid (treatment is free by insurance, but not staying with your child). Igloo ..lol. I'd love to, kid probably, too, but our winters don't have enough snow over here. And in the meantime....? You could do this very cheaply. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72971523 United States 09/29/2022 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I put up temporary plastic sheet partitions that make a very big difference in containing heat. Pick a place that can be enclosed with two new "walls". Get framing lumber, 2 " x 2 " (sorry, don't know out w metric) in lengths that will serve as top and bottom plates. Get similar dimension studs, cut to fit tightly between top and bottom plate. Cut a little bit long so the tension jams the plates, and you won't have to nail, although it can't hurt to do so. Keep 2 studs separated approx .75 of one meter, for your doorway. Get plastic sheeting, and attach to the frame to create a four walled room. I use a stapler. Duct tape helps also. The smaller this cube is, the easier to heat. Buy a drywall zipper. Peel the back off, and stick it to the middle of the doorway, starting at the bottom. Unzip it, and slice the plastic. Now you have a door. The neater and thorough you make it, the easier to contain heat. I've been surprised to learn that just being in a contained cubicle like this, your own body will raise the temperature. Get a couple GFs in there, and you won't have to run a stove. An electric hot plate might be enough. The lumber can be 2x2, but can be 2x4, 2x6; thats not critical. If you use propane etc. You have to ventilate. I have tried using a big buddy propane heater in a small area. Its dangerous. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84289714 Spain 09/29/2022 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sleeping sack keeps you warm Layered clothing Put newspaper under your clothes it keeps in the warmth Share room with pets..breath keeps you warm Get thermal underwear if you can Some suggestions that may help Food wise..potatoes help against the cold and porridge oats |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84207148 United States 09/29/2022 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More tips: Get a butane bottle and single burner stove Forget the camping stove if you can afford it it’s better or even a butane oven stove You can find them second hand.... I don’t know if Germany is like Spain but butane bottles the big ones were everywhere and they were less then 20 euros.... That bottle can last 2 to 3 months cooking 3 meals a day, You can make candles out of orange and lemon peel shells They burn a good 6 hours Drink hot tea and honey everyday |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73794491 United States 09/29/2022 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't worry about it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73794491 Seriously. Don't worry about it. It won't be Europe that gets fucked over. It'll be the US. We'll end up supplying all the fuel that Europe needs this winter, at the expense of US consumers. I don't think so..because it takes time to supply us because 'gesturing at all the water the tankers have to cross' You're probably right. I'm just complaining about how the US usually approaches this type of thing. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 83800114 Germany 09/29/2022 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for your suggestions, some of them I have not thought about. Sleeping bags I do have, and my cat will happily cuddle with us. Separating a room with plastiksheeting and a drywall door is a good idea! Butane bottles,hm.only butan i have is thise really small ones for the campingstove.It's propane over here what you buy for gas bbq grill, heating and stuff and they sold out before summer started! We have a hard time finding an empty one to get it refilled,and prices are double anyways. Rope,matches and a pitchfork - check! but I won't walk 500miles to Berlin :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73209786 United States 09/29/2022 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ever heard of the phrase and band name, 3 Dog Night? It comes from Medieval Europe, when poor people could not afford heat, a critical mass of three dogs kept a person warm at night. I'd recommend larger breeds with long fur, like shepherds, mastiffs. Just be prepared to feed them. |
King Retard User ID: 84285832 Germany 09/29/2022 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know you mean good. But the ones suggesting I should buy a pellet stove or car batteries and solar panels, I don't have the money for it. Quoting: Phoenixe2 It's that simple. I tried to sell stuff, get extra by housekeeping jobs. All used for sudden car repair and a hospital stay of the kid (treatment is free by insurance, but not staying with your child). Igloo ..lol. I'd love to, kid probably, too, but our winters don't have enough snow over here. And in the meantime....? Actually you would wonder what you get on ebaykleinanzeigen for free... still got a 400 watt panel in the cellar... someone gave away 20 anyway concerning your problem... how about you go real german on this? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84289714 Spain 09/29/2022 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for your suggestions, some of them I have not thought about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83800114 Sleeping bags I do have, and my cat will happily cuddle with us. Separating a room with plastiksheeting and a drywall door is a good idea! Butane bottles,hm.only butan i have is thise really small ones for the campingstove.It's propane over here what you buy for gas bbq grill, heating and stuff and they sold out before summer started! We have a hard time finding an empty one to get it refilled,and prices are double anyways. Rope,matches and a pitchfork - check! but I won't walk 500miles to Berlin :) Heating stoves are really easy to make op Just ensure good ventilatión and smoke exit.I cant post Link but check on YouTube.."make your own wood stove" |
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