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Craft

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Tomorrow Ukraine will make fundamental decisions. They will be discussed at a meeting of the Security Council of Ukraine, and then announced to the population. This was stated by Secretary of the Security Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov.

He also announced that the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief would take place before the National Security and Defense Council.

What decisions are involved is unknown.

Ukrainian media panicky suggest

"It is possible that a decision may be announced on Ukraine's withdrawal from the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, according to which security guarantees were given to Kyiv in exchange for declaring the country's non-nuclear status."

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In the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, the United States, Russia, and Britain committed “to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine” and “to refrain from the threat or use of force” against the country. Those assurances played a key role in persuading the Ukrainian government in Kyiv to give up what amounted to the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal, consisting of some 1,900 strategic nuclear warheads.

[link to www.brookings.edu (secure)]
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fuck jukraineeeeee
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This would be a very very bad decision.
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Re: Wanna hear a rumor it's not a good one,
This is what I was looking for, thanks.
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09/29/2022 04:58 PM

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Yup no biggie like I always say feel free to use any thing I post hf
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Ukraine is getting smaller day by day.
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Re: Wanna hear a rumor it's not a good one,
Indeed I believe zelabell is trying to Buck up if this happens...
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Tomorrow Ukraine will make fundamental decisions. They will be discussed at a meeting of the Security Council of Ukraine, and then announced to the population. This was stated by Secretary of the Security Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov.

He also announced that the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief would take place before the National Security and Defense Council.

What decisions are involved is unknown.

Ukrainian media panicky suggest

"It is possible that a decision may be announced on Ukraine's withdrawal from the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, according to which security guarantees were given to Kyiv in exchange for declaring the country's non-nuclear status."

*

In the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, the United States, Russia, and Britain committed “to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine” and “to refrain from the threat or use of force” against the country. Those assurances played a key role in persuading the Ukrainian government in Kyiv to give up what amounted to the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal, consisting of some 1,900 strategic nuclear warheads.

[link to www.brookings.edu (secure)]
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Thanks Craft. I appreciate you trying to keep people informed.
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Zelensky is a front man for tel aviv

Says it all about him
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fuck jukraineeeeee
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hf
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10 billion dollars says they vote against the Bear.
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If it does take place.... Is this a stab in the back to the aid everyone has given him....

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Tomorrow Ukraine will make fundamental decisions. They will be discussed at a meeting of the Security Council of Ukraine, and then announced to the population. This was stated by Secretary of the Security Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov.

He also announced that the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief would take place before the National Security and Defense Council.

What decisions are involved is unknown.

Ukrainian media panicky suggest

"It is possible that a decision may be announced on Ukraine's withdrawal from the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, according to which security guarantees were given to Kyiv in exchange for declaring the country's non-nuclear status."

*

In the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, the United States, Russia, and Britain committed “to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine” and “to refrain from the threat or use of force” against the country. Those assurances played a key role in persuading the Ukrainian government in Kyiv to give up what amounted to the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal, consisting of some 1,900 strategic nuclear warheads.

[link to www.brookings.edu (secure)]
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Thread: nothing will happen
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09/29/2022 05:23 PM
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I call bullshit...

and where are they supposed to get nukes right now???

have they buried some???
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09/29/2022 05:26 PM

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In the link I posted I believe they were dismantled or possibly moved or kept... Not sure .... The west probably would have left some just for this current situation "don't know"
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Re: Wanna hear a rumor it's not a good one,
They better have a few put together before they make any statement.

That's pretty much declaration of being a nuclear power if that's the case....no?


That means if Russia uses nukes they will be able to respond in kind.


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It's very risky to run this WW3 script, they seem desperate.
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epiclolclappa
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Nice one true and guts I would think so

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Re: Wanna hear a rumor it's not a good one,
Zelensky is a front man for tel aviv

Says it all about him
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For the few,

Last Edited by Craft on 09/29/2022 05:57 PM
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Ukraine would never of been able to maintain nukes.

Plus at end of cold war, usa accepted ukraine was virtually part of russia, and agreed to never go near there.

Usa lied.
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Yeah man,
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Zelensky is a front man for tel aviv

Says it all about him
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Prove it?
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