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Catastrophic Destruction Leaving Hundreds Dead In Florida Hurricane Aftermath

 
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Since this storm is still going, here's link to Ryan Hall Y'all YTer. Arguably one of the best outside of the profession doing his thing.

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Have no idea why people did not evacuate.

Sad.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Because the msm said it was going to Tampa.
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I have family that just moved to the west coast down there that have not replied to any of my texts since yesterday.

I had dreams I was with them and we were climbing into vehicles and amusement park rides and getting tossed around and actually getting dislodged form our seats or going up and down impossibly twisting roads.
 Quoting: Zell Xan


Cell phone reception, even for texts, is spotty.

Was supposed to have been 'hardened' after charlie, but obviously not enough.

Have family down there to. Getting sporadic texts.
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That’s sad, they had plenty of time to get out…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80587438


They actually didn't, you've clearly never tried to evac during a hurricane clearly. The traffic is insane and only certain parts of Florida evac.

There was only 1 model in all of the spaghetti models that predicted its landfall.. Everything was predicting it hitting further north until it was already to late to get out.
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Have no idea why people did not evacuate.

Sad.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


bsflagjudge not lest the be judged.
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Have no idea why people did not evacuate.

Sad.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Because


"The thing that sets the American Christian apart from all other people in the world is that he will die on his feet rather before he will live on his knees."

- George Washington.
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Most thought the storm was going to hit Tampa directly. That's what the forecast models were saying.
It didn't take the eastward jog till yesterday morning. By then it was too late to do anything. They had to hunker down in place.

You never really know with a hurricane.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81591109


That's right, they got the track wrong. We thought it was coming up my way. Everyone here was out getting supplies and preparing, it was a zoo here. But, then it took a turn east and that was it. Too late for those people to leave. It takes a long time to prepare to evacuate, especially if you have kids, pets, elderly, etc. It's not as easy as people think.
 Quoting: daughteroftheking8


Right but anyone with a brain would understand that a storm this big is unpredictable and plan accordingly.

I am empathetic but also a realist. If you were anywhere on the west coast of Florida you should have made some type of movement.

Don't assume the track they predict is legit. Assume they know jack shit and do what you need to do.
 Quoting: JimmyBones


It wasn't supposed to be that big. They were telling everyone it would be a cat 1 and it blew up over night.
Evacuating at the last minute isn't easy for some people.
 Quoting: daughteroftheking8


Uh thats bs they said it would hit at a CAT4 and it did
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Have no idea why people did not evacuate.

Sad.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Because


"The thing that sets the American Christian apart from all other people in the world is that he will die on his feet rather before he will live on his knees."

- George Washington.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84276728



it’s a hurricane, with a huge storm surge

that’s not something you face on your feet, this isn’t a test of faith lol

if you think it is then that’s what natural selection is all about
Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads.

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Have no idea why people did not evacuate.

Sad.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Me either. I was there and drove back to Pa. Because there was really no safe place.
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Have no idea why people did not evacuate.

Sad.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Because the msm said it was going to Tampa.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78797599



In Port Charlotte, 40,000 were under mandatory evacuation. 12 hrs before it hit, 120,000 in the orange warning area, were told to evacuate. By then it was too late. They didn't even have time to change the colors on the maps in Charlotte county.

Northport was still yellow (good), when in fact parts should have been red.

The storm track changed. That's life. No one could see that coming. What are you going to do, evacuate all of FL?

They did that for one earlier hurricane that turned out to be a miss, and people were seriously pissed. For years.
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GET READY FOR THE DELIBERATE DOWNPLAYING OF TOTALS.

THAT HAPPENED IN CHARLIE IN 2004.
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I watched live feeds it didn't even seem that bad
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Don't know what you were watching, but obviously the wrong crap. Even Reed Timmer lost his vehicle covering the storm surge
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lived through 3 hurricanes and 2 tornadoes, tornadoes are the worse

seen out of know where the sky turns into dark green and watched 12 people go dead in in 2 seconds
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One of the most amazing natural disasters ever I think was the Joplin Missouri tornado. Incredible power and force.
 Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen



Equal or worse, May3 1999 Moore OK. It even pulled grass/weeds out of the ground
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where is the Mountain of dead bodies 'Sherrif'?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83115798


I remember silly questions like this after Hurricane Katrina.

What officials said at that time (and still applies to
Hurricane IAN)...with the out-wash of the waters bodies
float out to sea. Many are never recovered.

Sad...but true.

verysad
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 Quoting: Happy in Nature


That is FORT MYERS BEACH!!!!!

Not downtown Fort Myers, which is 5 miles inland.

Press is covering it all wrong too.
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Electric vehicles and the evacuation of Florida


Depending on how heavily loaded they were, even assuming everyone had a full battery charge, cars from southern Florida would start running out of juice after 100 – 250 miles. They would then have to spend hours at recharging stations, which would rapidly be clogged with other cars and trucks waiting their turn, since an electricity “fill up” can easily take an hour or more, as compared to a couple of minutes for gasoline. Cars waiting to be charged would spill onto the highways, potentially blocking traffic.



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That’s sad, they had plenty of time to get out…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80587438


Florida jobs pay shit and the costs of leaving for storms and then trying to return is a gamble most cannot afford.


Then add in the scumbag insurance adjusters and companies that prey upon the survivors and it's definitely something most don't want to experience.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81036825


that is the main reason i left in 1982, hard to make ends
meet with those low ass wages, other than that i loved the
state and all the beaches!

Add: lived in Apollo beach.

Last Edited by M R E on 09/29/2022 03:32 PM
would rather have it & not need it then need it & not have it
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Have no idea why people did not evacuate.

Sad.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Because the msm said it was going to Tampa.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78797599


Exactly.

To make matters worse, the lying bastards didn’t pay attention to the air currents which lacked the power and intensity to blow the fucking thing northward and into Tampa.

The air currents were NEVER in a position to make it get to Tampa, and anyone with a fucking brain should have been on the fucking TV to say that.

But nooooooo…..

We had to get nothing but lies and bullshit from the fucking TV “scientists” who know Jack shit about anything.
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 Quoting: Happy in Nature


That is FORT MYERS BEACH!!!!!

Not downtown Fort Myers, which is 5 miles inland.

Press is covering it all wrong too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78797599


As I stated earlier, I copied the text from the tweet (to identify the content since there are a hundred plus twitter links).
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Have no idea why people did not evacuate.

Sad.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Because the msm said it was going to Tampa.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78797599



In Port Charlotte, 40,000 were under mandatory evacuation. 12 hrs before it hit, 120,000 in the orange warning area, were told to evacuate. By then it was too late. They didn't even have time to change the colors on the maps in Charlotte county.

Northport was still yellow (good), when in fact parts should have been red.

The storm track changed. That's life. No one could see that coming. What are you going to do, evacuate all of FL?

They did that for one earlier hurricane that turned out to be a miss, and people were seriously pissed. For years.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79695452


…..And people had the right to be pissed then, just as they have the right to be pissed now.

The fucking air currents were NEVER in place to push the fucking storm into Tampa, and anyone who is scientifically honest knew that the whole fucking time.

But nooooooo…..

All we got was lies and bullshit about Tampa being 10 feet under water and all this shit that NEVER could have happened.

It was all lies, whether intentional or based on fucking stupidity.

The air currents were never there to propel the fucking thing straight north.
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GET READY FOR THE DELIBERATE DOWNPLAYING OF TOTALS.

THAT HAPPENED IN CHARLIE IN 2004.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79695452


it will be in the thousands but we will never get an official report--migrants and illegals maaaan.
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I watched live feeds it didn't even seem that bad
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It seemed over hyped as far as wind speeds. Like 100mph winds or 90 even, would be impossible to stand up in like the guy holding the sign. But, I have seen nothing like Andrew barreling through there. 155mph and there'd be scarcely a roof left. But, the aftermath I saw they just showed some boats rocked out of their berths. Small trees down and flooded streets. Yeah, water damage not wind damage.
This is coming concurrent with King Tides and so water would be more of a problem in any case. We are having high water in the Atlantic 200 miles from the storm.
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85 of my employees live in Ft Myers, I just hope they are all OK.
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Have no idea why people did not evacuate.

Sad.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Me either. I was there and drove back to Pa. Because there was really no safe place.
 Quoting: Isis One


I'm just glad you got out of there in time!!!!!! hugs
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Have no idea why people did not evacuate.

Sad.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Because the msm said it was going to Tampa.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78797599



In Port Charlotte, 40,000 were under mandatory evacuation. 12 hrs before it hit, 120,000 in the orange warning area, were told to evacuate. By then it was too late. They didn't even have time to change the colors on the maps in Charlotte county.

Northport was still yellow (good), when in fact parts should have been red.

The storm track changed. That's life. No one could see that coming. What are you going to do, evacuate all of FL?

They did that for one earlier hurricane that turned out to be a miss, and people were seriously pissed. For years.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79695452


My MIL was in Port Charlotte in an assisted living facility for rehab. They moved her to Sarasota. Suppose to be moved back tomorrow but I'm not sure that will happen if the power is out. She is old with dementia and scared. Not fun dealing with from Colorado. One of her son's might even go down to move her to Texas rehab.

They only evacuated the facility the day before on the extreme side of safety because it was NOT under Evacuation Orders until it was too late.
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Selvig should slither back to Israel.
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That’s one way to mass murder conservatives and get away with it
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You mean suicide.
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Have no idea why people did not evacuate.

Sad.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Because the msm said it was going to Tampa.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78797599



In Port Charlotte, 40,000 were under mandatory evacuation. 12 hrs before it hit, 120,000 in the orange warning area, were told to evacuate. By then it was too late. They didn't even have time to change the colors on the maps in Charlotte county.

Northport was still yellow (good), when in fact parts should have been red.

The storm track changed. That's life. No one could see that coming. What are you going to do, evacuate all of FL?

They did that for one earlier hurricane that turned out to be a miss, and people were seriously pissed. For years.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79695452


My MIL was in Port Charlotte in an assisted living facility for rehab. They moved her to Sarasota. Suppose to be moved back tomorrow but I'm not sure that will happen if the power is out. She is old with dementia and scared. Not fun dealing with from Colorado. One of her son's might even go down to move her to Texas rehab.

They only evacuated the facility the day before on the extreme side of safety because it was NOT under Evacuation Orders until it was too late.
 Quoting: WhiteAngel

That is sad. So many elderly people were caught in this.

A lot of storms get hyped & people end up spending their savings evacuating for no reason. Then when they really should leave, they've been had too many times. They end up staying & dying.
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you." - Fox Mulder - The X-Files

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I watched live feeds it didn't even seem that bad
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75958720


It seemed over hyped as far as wind speeds. Like 100mph winds or 90 even, would be impossible to stand up in like the guy holding the sign. But, I have seen nothing like Andrew barreling through there. 155mph and there'd be scarcely a roof left. But, the aftermath I saw they just showed some boats rocked out of their berths. Small trees down and flooded streets. Yeah, water damage not wind damage.
This is coming concurrent with King Tides and so water would be more of a problem in any case. We are having high water in the Atlantic 200 miles from the storm.
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After Andrew and other storms, structures were built to withstand future hurricanes.





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