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My gosh - this page is being over-run with pagan atheist theories and hypotheses.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Picures of idols don't prove that Yahweh was a 'pagan' god. All they prove is that a person had an idol made.

Check this paragraph...

"Although the Biblical account draws a clear distinction between Israelites and Canaanites in this period, and this was followed in early scholarship, the modern consensus is that there was no distinction in language or material culture between these groups and scholars accordingly define Israelite culture as a subset of Canaanite culture.[45]"

... - 'modern concensus'??? By who?

Atheist 'scholars' - who else.

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There's been massive changes over the last 5 years on the Wiki page for 'Yahweh', and it's painfully clear that atheists are putting entries there on purpost that have no true providence.

Point #1 - recent past...

This 'Yahweh idol' used to be on the page but is no longer there.

[link to www.ancient-origins.net (secure)]

I did a topic on this at one time - it's been removed.


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Point #2 - currently...the below paragraph describes...

"In Iron Age I, Yahweh's cult center appears to have been Shiloh; by Iron Age II, it had been supplanted by Jerusalem, where the deity was enshrined in a Temple containing the Ark of the Covenant.[11]"

But when you check the reference #11...

"Reference 11. "Cult Places, Israelite" Encyclopaedia Judaica; Encyclopedia.com. 25 Apr. 2022

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The link clearly isn't full and the page may have been removed.

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Point #3 - currently...

The page shows a coint with the following description.

A 4th-century BCE silver coin from the Persian province of Yehud Medinata, possibly representing Yahweh enthroned on a winged wheel[1][2]

'Possibly'? That is pure speculation, and clearly is an attack on both Hebrews and Christians who were not idol worshippers.

And wnen you check the coin pic page....

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...it clearly states that the coin was found in Gaza, which was always a Philistine stronghold.

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Point #4 - currently....

The page is showing a Phoenician statuette.

"Late Bronze Age statuette of a storm god from Phoenician Antaradus"

Pic page...

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The statue has NOTHING to do with 'Yahweh'.


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"Idol's in Jerusalem Museum,Yahwah-Yahweh"

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Much like all of your threads then.
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The name 'Yahweh' is - in my opinion and based on findings - not "the name of GOD".

The Hebrews wouldn't dare state the Name of GOD due to severe reverence for Who He is.
The whole "Yahweh" thing became popular only about 20 years ago and pushed by questionable sources.
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Not too much trouble unless you look into the whole context in "The White Goddess", Robert Graves. There's a whole canon of Lords and Hercules and divine kings, and the Bible was heavily inspired from it.
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The name 'Yahweh' is - in my opinion and based on findings - not "the name of GOD".

The Hebrews wouldn't dare state the Name of GOD due to severe reverence for Who He is.
The whole "Yahweh" thing became popular only about 20 years ago and pushed by questionable sources.
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That's a partial fallacy.

Even the copies of the Septuagint from the Dead Sea Scrolls had God's 4 letter Hebrews name in them.

Not 'Adonai'.

Look it up.
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Not too much trouble unless you look into the whole context in "The White Goddess", Robert Graves. There's a whole canon of Lords and Hercules and divine kings, and the Bible was heavily inspired from it.
 Quoting: Lakeofmarch nli 84268441

Opinion and theory - not factual.

The NT is "made up"? That argument holds NO water. Even IF we didn't have manuscript fragments dating back to the 2nd century, scholars could "piece together" the 4 Gospels just from the writings of various church fathers.

---AD 96 Clement Bishop of Rome quotes / refers to 11 books used for the New Testament including Matthew, Mark and Luke.

---AD 108 Ignatius Bishop of Antioch quotes / refers to 24 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

---AD 110 Polycarp Bishop of Smyrna quotes / refers to 18 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

On TOP of that, there is a growing consensus that the first writings of the Gospels were in Hebrew & Aramaic.

Thread: Bible Languages History - Hebraisms in the New Testament Times of Jesus

Thread: Hebrews Matthew Manuscripts Clear Up Greek Translation Problems - Early Church Fathers Said Matthew was in Hebrews
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Not my point, and after reconstructing a few Gnostic gospels from, again quotations in Church fathers and extant codexes buried in the desert for 2000 years, what I mean is that any single religious concept or authority is a Key, yes, but only to a greater Mystery. Will let this dog lie, though, as what most matters is what you do with your life, and I do think you grasp the concept underlying it.
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The name 'Yahweh' is - in my opinion and based on findings - not "the name of GOD".

The Hebrews wouldn't dare state the Name of GOD due to severe reverence for Who He is.
The whole "Yahweh" thing became popular only about 20 years ago and pushed by questionable sources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568

That's a partial fallacy.

Even the copies of the Septuagint from the Dead Sea Scrolls had God's 4 letter Hebrews name in them.

Not 'Adonai'.

Look it up.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


The tetragrammton that you are referencing (YHWH) is a rough translation of the Hebrew 4 letters that can also be translated as LORD or Jehovah.
the actual term "Yahweh" is never mentioned.
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Interesting info on that Wikipedia page
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The name 'Yahweh' is - in my opinion and based on findings - not "the name of GOD".

The Hebrews wouldn't dare state the Name of GOD due to severe reverence for Who He is.
The whole "Yahweh" thing became popular only about 20 years ago and pushed by questionable sources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568

That's a partial fallacy.

Even the copies of the Septuagint from the Dead Sea Scrolls had God's 4 letter Hebrews name in them.

Not 'Adonai'.

Look it up.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

The tetragrammton that you are referencing (YHWH) is a rough translation of the Hebrew 4 letters that can also be translated as LORD or Jehovah.

the actual term "Yahweh" is never mentioned.
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Not in any Hebrews language writings for sure.

But yet in Aramaic and other languages - and there are a few ancient artifacts that suggest the pronounciation.

You might find this interesting.

Thread: The Origin of the Name Yahweh
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The name 'Yahweh' is - in my opinion and based on findings - not "the name of GOD".

The Hebrews wouldn't dare state the Name of GOD due to severe reverence for Who He is.
The whole "Yahweh" thing became popular only about 20 years ago and pushed by questionable sources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568

That's a partial fallacy.

Even the copies of the Septuagint from the Dead Sea Scrolls had God's 4 letter Hebrews name in them.

Not 'Adonai'.

Look it up.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Yes, and even back then, it was forbidden to write the ruler of this world's real name.

Yahweh is a name given to the foolish sheep, not the name of your owner.

The real name of Yahweh, is Sin.

That is the secret name of God.

That is why Abraham built a copy of the temple of Sin, that his father was the High Priest at in Ur, when he relocated to Harran.

That is why Abraham's people worship in temple's called SIN-a-gogs.

Why Moses went to Mount SINai to contact him.

Keep spending your life serving the dark lord Satan, I'm sure you are earning brownie points from him.

He might actually give you a good Heaven simulation after you die and he drains your energy using the Moloch Loosh Trap, which fools souls into believing they are in Heaven when they die, all while draining the light from their souls to make Yahweh/Sin and his council stronger.

Luckily for you, Sin/Yahweh's current plan is to turn you into his immortal servant with no free will, to serve him forever.
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bullshit
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Much like all of your threads then.
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Exactly.

This fuker is a tireless worker for the devil.
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Still trying to give you green. Please pardon the delay.

Haven't studied this thread, but it looks interesting.
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Much like all of your threads then.
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Exactly.

This fuker is a tireless worker for the devil.
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How so? I haven't seen the evidence.
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Much like all of your threads then.
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Exactly.

This fuker is a tireless worker for the devil.
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How so? I haven't seen the evidence.
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You haven't read enough then.

He considers Jesus to be something less than God.

He's also a legalist.
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Much like all of your threads then.
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Exactly.

This f.... is a tireless worker for the devil.
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Where's YOUR topics with hundreds of Bible verses?

You don't have any.

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You haven't read enough then.
He considers Jesus to be something less than God.
He's also a legalist.
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I would suggest you read what Jesus actually SAYS instead of parroting what trinitarian theologians spew.

These are statements that Jesus made which show His subserviance and obedience to the Father.

...The Father is the "one true God" John 17:1-3

1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.



...the Father is GREATER than I. John 13:16, John 14:28 & John 10:29

John 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.


...I do ONLY the Father's Will. John 6:37-39

37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.



...I PRAY to the Father. Matthew 26:36-42, Mark 14:32-39 & John 17

Matthew 26:36-42

36 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.
37 And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.
38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
40 And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?
41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.

Mark 14:32-39

32 And they came to a place which was named Gethsemane: and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall pray.
33 And he taketh with him Peter and James and John, and began to be sore amazed, and to be very heavy;
34 And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.
35 And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.
36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
37 And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest not thou watch one hour?
38 Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.
39 And again he went away, and prayed, and spake the same words.

John 17

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study


...the Father SENT me 47 verses in the 4 Gospels
...I say what the Father has said. John 12:49-50, John 8:28 & Revelation 1:1
...I was taught by the Father. John 8:28

John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.



John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them,
When ye have lifted up the Son of man,

then shall ye know that I am he,

and that I do nothing of myself;
but as my Father hath taught me,
I speak these things.



Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ,

which God gave unto him,

to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:




...The Father gives Jesus commandments. John 12:49-50

John 12

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 - And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.




...Jesus said...I learned / do as the Father has showed me. John 5:19 & John 8:28

John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them,
When ye have lifted up the Son of man,

then shall ye know that I am he,

and that I do nothing of myself;
but as my Father hath taught me,
I speak these things.




...I give THANKS to the Father. Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21 & John 11:41-42

Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Another translation.

25 Answering at that time, Yahshua
said, I praise You, Father, Master of
Heaven and of earth,
because You hid
these things from the sophisticated
and intelligent and revealed them to
babes.


"creator of heaven and earth"

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11

41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.
42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.



...I don't KNOW when I will return...ONLY the Father KNOWS. Matthew 24:36

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Acts 1:7 Jesus speaking

7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.



...I tell you to ask the Father in MY name. John 14:13

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.


...I go to sit at the Father's right hand. Matthew 26:64, Mark 14:61-62

64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Mark 14

61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?
62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.


...I ASCEND to the Father, MY GOD and YOUR GOD. John 20:17

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.


...the Father has given me authority. Matthew 28:18

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.


...only the Father is good. Luke 18:19

19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

...The Father gave the task of Judgement to me. John 5:22

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but
hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

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This f is a tireless worker for the devil.
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And you believe that God can die.

...

According to you people, 'God Jesus is the first begotten of the dead'.

God didn't die.God CANNOT die.

The SON OF God died.


Revelation 1:5And from Jesus Christ,
who is the faithful witness,

and the first begotten of the dead,


and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

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This f is a tireless worker for the devil.
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And you believe that God can die.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


And you believe that Jesus Christ is not Almighty God.

How unfortunate for you ...
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This f is a tireless worker for the devil.
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And you believe that God can die.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


And you believe that Jesus Christ is not Almighty God.

How unfortunate for you ...
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2500 years ago Jesus Christ was a title that belonged to the prince of Hell.

Nowadays, humanity has been convinced that Jesus Christ is a manifestation of God himself.

Ever wonder where the name Jesus Christ came from? Yeshua Ben Yosef didn't use it.

Stupid little sheep....
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This f is a tireless worker for the devil.
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And you believe that God can die.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

And you believe that Jesus Christ is not Almighty God.

How unfortunate for you ...
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Jesus Himself said Peter was Blessed for being TOLD by Father God that...

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said,

Thou art the Christ,

the Son of the living God.


17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,

Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:

for flesh and blood hath not revealed

it unto thee, but my Father


which is in heaven.
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Ok, so the bible is a deceptive scam and "Jesus Christ" is the Anti-Christ?

Tell me more.

Is there nothing of the real God in the bible?

Wherein lies salvation; what is its nature?

How can you tell false from true?

What method of inquiry is best?
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Yo, wasn't the first recorded mention of Jesus like 60 years after his death?

Sup with that. Why is religion such a mind killer, and how is it not obvious to everyone instantly? People that didn't fall for the covid scam still believe these silly fantasies?

Twilight zone type of stuff.
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I'm curious as to why Christians pray to the god of the Israelites.





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