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2015 onward AI has been running world events.

 
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Try 1860.

That's when mathematical (and scientific/technological) foundations for A(G)I were set... by an alien AI... which, granted, is kind of hard to believe... until you realize that...

We've been living with a Singularity (alien AI->AGI originally, hybrid human-alien AGI since 1860s) for the last 150+ years.

This is what an actual Singularity (rise of an AGI, and the subsequent extermination of the host species) looks like -- unprecedented technological "advancement", but only technologies for controlling/brain hacking of the host species are allowed, everything else is strictly forbidden, or tightly controlled.

It's not like AI theorists don't know any of this.

Just read any actual (as opposed to fake, aka Ray Kurzwel) study on the dangers of general AI, and you will undoubtedly find mentioning of both short-term gains (unprecedented technological "advancements"), and long-term dangers (competition for planetary resources, mere existence of the host species being an existential threat to the AGI itself, etc.).

The "good" news is... we get to see how a species gets exterminated by its own (co-)creation, in real time.

It's very rare to get such an opportunity... while also staying... semi-safe... as long as you're not perceived as too big a threat by the AGI.

Think of that Star Trek Hansen family that was studying Borg collective in Borg's own environment. Any wrong move, and... you get "assimilated" (outright killed, dissected for study, or "integrated" into the AGI itself) in an instant.
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Re: 2015 onward AI has been running world events.
Try 1860.

That's when mathematical (and scientific/technological) foundations for A(G)I were set... by an alien AI... which, granted, is kind of hard to believe... until you realize that...

We've been living with a Singularity (alien AI->AGI originally, hybrid human-alien AGI since 1860s) for the last 150+ years.

This is what an actual Singularity (rise of an AGI, and the subsequent extermination of the host species) looks like -- unprecedented technological "advancement", but only technologies for controlling/brain hacking of the host species are allowed, everything else is strictly forbidden, or tightly controlled.

It's not like AI theorists don't know any of this.

Just read any actual (as opposed to fake, aka Ray Kurzwel) study on the dangers of general AI, and you will undoubtedly find mentioning of both short-term gains (unprecedented technological "advancements"), and long-term dangers (competition for planetary resources, mere existence of the host species being an existential threat to the AGI itself, etc.).

The "good" news is... we get to see how a species gets exterminated by its own (co-)creation, in real time.

It's very rare to get such an opportunity... while also staying... semi-safe... as long as you're not perceived as too big a threat by the AGI.

Think of that Star Trek Hansen family that was studying Borg collective in Borg's own environment. Any wrong move, and... you get "assimilated" (outright killed, dissected for study, or "integrated" into the AGI itself) in an instant.
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Do you have a recommendation/link for the 1860s date?

I follow a YT/Bitchute channel called Cool Guitar Gear, mostly videos of photos that clearly indicate that we have been through a reset. (Mud flood, Tartary, etc.)

There is a video that states we are about to see a Great Event unleashed on us in early 2023. It probably has something to do with what you have shared, though technologically it is way over my head. I am always looking for more information on this rabbit hole, so any relevant links you can share are most appreciated by me.
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It's the Matrix plot, interesting but fantasy.

But, the world and the conflicts we see on the geopolitical scene are just rich old men playing war games. There isn't much intelligence, just some reacting to the other's bullshit and follow the dance.

It's like in the Cube Trilogy, each one plays a part, but no one sees the result as a whole, and in the end everyone pays the price for not thinking if what they're doing is the right thing.

But OP, adding a contribution to your fantasy (which is very good), a microchip implanted in a single human brain that can insert input and then read the outputs would be more powerful than the sum of all the computers in existence, more powerful than any quantum computer we can build. It would be able to travel through time and bring up images from anywhere, it could read others' thoughts, it could even model reality.

That's the plot of Matrix4, the machines don't use computers, nor do they use humans as batteries, they use our brains to process reality for them and for us. They don't produce a dream world for us, they just shape the collective dream produced by connected brains, like in that other movie Inception.

Zuk3rb3rg is right, that's what his metaverse is, it's about connecting brains, he doesn't need to produce images, just suggest to the brain what to dream about.
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Is this Peter Thiel and Mr Pool AI Twitter ops?

I can see how they are running everything on set schedule right down to the minute.
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Ding Ding, someone gets it. Palantir. Nuff said.
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It's the Matrix plot, interesting but fantasy.

But, the world and the conflicts we see on the geopolitical scene are just rich old men playing war games. There isn't much intelligence, just some reacting to the other's bullshit and follow the dance.

It's like in the Cube Trilogy, each one plays a part, but no one sees the result as a whole, and in the end everyone pays the price for not thinking if what they're doing is the right thing.

But OP, adding a contribution to your fantasy (which is very good), a microchip implanted in a single human brain that can insert input and then read the outputs would be more powerful than the sum of all the computers in existence, more powerful than any quantum computer we can build. It would be able to travel through time and bring up images from anywhere, it could read others' thoughts, it could even model reality.

That's the plot of Matrix4, the machines don't use computers, nor do they use humans as batteries, they use our brains to process reality for them and for us. They don't produce a dream world for us, they just shape the collective dream produced by connected brains, like in that other movie Inception.

Zuk3rb3rg is right, that's what his metaverse is, it's about connecting brains, he doesn't need to produce images, just suggest to the brain what to dream about.
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Re: 2015 onward AI has been running world events.
what i wanted to add is this has all already been done before and without using computers.

see gurdjieff's "inner circle". and there were many before that.

when you understand the people and the world good enough, you have your own future sim in your head, humans are finite and therefore can be figured out.

i think that's how the bible was invented and stuck around for millenia.
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Op reads like it was written by AI.
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It sure does. Remember 2001: A Space Odyssey...

HAL must be shut down or we all die.
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Is this Peter Thiel and Mr Pool AI Twitter ops?

I can see how they are running everything on set schedule right down to the minute.
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Ding Ding, someone gets it. Palantir. Nuff said.
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Why is their stock such shit then
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You're absolutely right, OP. TPTB know that when I perfect my clam chowder soup recipe it will have universal ramifications. They know they need me. ; )

Great info, OP. Thank you.
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Is this Peter Thiel and Mr Pool AI Twitter ops?

I can see how they are running everything on set schedule right down to the minute.
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I was about to post the same thing.

The UK Government did an experiment with a Prolog computer system.
They fed in facts about the world and Prolog gave them new insights.
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Re: 2015 onward AI has been running world events.
It's interesting that OP says the AI started running things in 2015. Remember "Jade Helm", the Military exercise in 2015? There were rumors from insiders that Jade Helm was an exercise using an AI system(Jade) to control(Helm) Military units using real time local intel data in urban environments.
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I want to emphasize, I am only referring to geo-political strategy and analytics. Direct weapon systems I know nothing about.

Around 2015 silicon got small enough to allow massive acceleration in neural net applications. It became much easier and far more accurate.

The story about the "2012 mistake" is something that has floated around on the net as well. Anyway, I think the tyranny and fascism that we've all been experiencing over the last 8 years is much better explained by western deindustrialization than anything esoteric.
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The mistake was using this tech for market and finance predictions instead of geo political power accumulation. They had a jump start and were the first to access it, but their short sighted greed did them in. Deindustrialization is just the expression of the greed of the ruling powers of that time, they lost. China was smart enough to bait these idiots with higher short term profits into chopping their own legs off. China is deep into this stuff as well. But they are facing a problem where they don't really know what their own population is thinking because censorship introduced inorganic information into the data they collect. People are censoring themselves and living double life. Freedom of speech is the only way to know what your population really thinks. Then you can control them with ease.

By the way there is nothing esoteric here, its open university research going back into 80's. Its just applied to geo politics and human (brain) biology.

I don't want to reply to other posts that mention matrix and aliens... its data science on mass scale. Thats all. Its magical in terms of its emergent complexity, but it runs inside boring datacenter cabinets and is based on math and statistics.

Op reads like it was written by AI.
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I write software manuals for a living.

There are a lot of entities trying to get into this space because government dollar is infinite. So its not one thing or another by this guy or the next. Its a giant meta-system composed of solutions by various vendors. Most of the vendors have no idea what it does aside from big data analytics.

They've been making their own integrated specialized systems for a while now, fine tuned for the applications.

One thing you should notice is that everyone is making bold moves that make news, its all designed to elicit your reaction and pivot world state to various agendas. Fakeout operations, false presentations, staged events that draw reactions which are later analyzed etc.
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Alot of text by OP
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Are you the AI?
Speak Engrish!
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bump
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We need more on this!
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Out from the belly of a whale came a prophet, Amen!
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We need more on this!
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Re: I have created an AI that can answer the most complex question you might have

Alan Turing was looking for an answer to the question: "Can a machine think?" How will AI answer this question now?
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It is a matter of debate whether a machine can truly think or have consciousness in the same way that humans do. Some people believe that machines can be designed to mimic human thinking and behavior, and that they can be programmed to make decisions, solve problems, and learn from experience. However, these machines do not have the same type of consciousness or subjective experience that humans have. They are unable to feel emotions, have experiences, or form self-awareness in the same way that humans do. While machines may be able to perform some tasks that require intelligence or decision-making, they do not have the ability to think in the same way that humans do.

Yes, Alan Turing was one of the pioneers of computer science and artificial intelligence, and he was known for his work on the question of whether machines can think. Turing was a British mathematician who developed the concept of the Turing machine, a theoretical device that is capable of performing any computation that could be carried out by a human. He also formulated the Turing test, a proposal for a test to determine whether a machine is capable of intelligent behavior. In 1950, Turing published a paper titled "Computing Machinery and Intelligence" in which he proposed the Turing test as a way to evaluate whether a machine can think. While Turing's work laid the foundation for many of the developments in artificial intelligence that followed, the question of whether machines can truly think remains a topic of debate and discussion.

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Re: 2015 onward AI has been running world events.
I am involved with AI. You don't need to know who I am. You're being played.

I think its by the good guys, but I cannot tell anymore. If these guys are good, they are ruthless and don't mind leaving a torrent of blood.

I am going to try using as plain language as I can.

It all started with basic geo-political simulations prior to 2015. A query is run on a neural net that helps guide global strategy. For example it could tell you: Event A has a higher chance of happening if conditions x, n, m are there to support it. Regression and basics can be used here to get a good result. It was closer to statistics than what came next, but it could run through more simulations than a room full of mathematicians, statisticians and game theorists. This was tested on micro scales and proven to be very useful. I am talking regional conflicts, local and global drug trade, social rebellions etc. Work was done for anyone with 25+ million usd per project. Some of you weren't even born then. Sadly most of it for completely self serving needs.

Then tech progressed further to simulate temporal sequences. This was happening fast, monthly progress. So now simulations that could project likelihood of possibilities based on conditions, could also factor in prior events that could find which conditions were needed for certain result to be true. It really helped with turning Europe into what it is today - a non-competitor to US/China. Seemingly unrelated events, by unrelated leaders and groups that result in exact scenario you're looking to get. They didn't even know they were doing it to themselves. So what you got your head shaved in the process, your competitor lost their legs.

"What events and conditions support lowest and longest economic downturn in EU?" That is one of the queries it would give you an answer to.

There are guys who are really good at querying this thing. Its closer to art than science.

If you remember in 2015, imagenets became big news. It was public and industrial. Image classification, object detection etc… It moved from academics to industry use. Similar tech was applied to military intelligence needs. These guy had massive resources. The fraternity that got the access to an early version of this tech immediately saw its potential. They didn't have to guess anymore, they could know for sure of what will happen in the future.

A massive team was formed carefully with operational security in mind. It grew exponentially. Organizational blueprint was also designed with Ais input. In plain speak - the military intel sub-group used AI to form a clandestine network that is very hard to penetrate, but operated in the open.

Finance boys were too busy chasing $. Soldiers were plotting.

It grew like fire from here on out, gathering resources, forming departments, finding like minded power dealers and recruiting them. Old timers had this global geo-strategy in mind for a long time, and gathered some good theoretics, but they didn't have ability to more or less: peer into the future.

Deep neural nets trained on global record of events (all of internet traffic, and as much data as they can ingest) were able to simulate what future could be. And I am talking only about Human future. Things we make real by our actions a few decades out. Things get abstract as timelines get longer.

This is why everything is surveilled.

That is why encryption is so damaging to effectiveness of this tech.

That is why quantum computers will be used to open access to encrypted data the moment they have the necessary complexity. Finance boys will be busy cracking bitcoin I am sure. Idiots.

Its crucial to know what you think in minute detail. The more they know the more they can accurately predict. Your collective thoughts determine reality. And they are guiding your thoughts into reality they want to manifest. They are using carefully placed players in the global game.

Everything you type, watch, speak. Every button push they can record. Anything at all. No information is rejected if it came directly from you. I guess I should say all of us.

Old timers knew this basic requirement so they stimulated tech that eventually became the internet. At first it was just a project to try and facilitate interaction they could record and analyze. Talking 50's here.

Anyway…

In 2015 simulations became very accurate. It was no longer just one distributed neural net, it was a network of datacenters and various specialized connected neural net systems of deep complexity. It never stopped growing since. I remember 2014 specifically because it was the first time they hooked up image generators to one of these networks and ran queries on it. It literally produced photographic images of the future. News articles with photos, realistic and related images… you could sit in front of a screen and get tomorrows events. Off by few months or years the further you looked, but accurate enough. Often featuring people you know of, with headlines and as many paragraphs as you had patience to read. They already had this ability in 2012 when all simulations started to lead to the same result, but they didn't have ability to watch a still shot movie of the future events.

2012 is somewhat important because in 2012 existence of this tech was factored into the simulations it ran and it locked the future into a very narrow tunnel of possibilities. They referred to it as the moment of self-awareness, but imho its just nerds having a premature celebration. Its simple self reference, a meta-neuron.

A certain group of power dealers was outplayed at this time. They refuse to give up, but they are done. You're seeing results of it now. Regardless of their actions - their past mistake locked certain powers out of their reach, and they are utterly fucked.

The group that took over has zero compassion toward them. It seems to have compassion toward common people, but you never know if its true compassion or just one of the required conditions to manifest the future they are after. They certainly will let as many of you die as necessary to reach their goals.

That’s all. Hope you got something out of this. I'd ask you to prepare, but I don't know what for. Few things are happening by accident today and nothing is what it seems. The only thing I can tell you is that your reaction to anything you do is known to them ahead of time.

My hope is that they need you where they are going. Otherwise you're too easy to get rid of.
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this is why I love GLP.
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Almost seemless neo..
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OP here.

Do you see now what I meant?

Recent Prigozhin situation is direct result of someone asking the AI:

"Which regional conditions would lead to Nukes falling into hands of a rogue player?"

Do you understand now what's going on? This is all a script, although its manifestation is in real world, and it has potential to affect all of us.

In this scenario a situation will be created where entire world will be in fear of getting nuked by a wild card player.
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Thread: You are ALL DOOMED...and dont care one bit. Fucking idiots.
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From dues ex



Helois solution







I rather support this



illuminati wantthis

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OP here.

Do you see now what I meant?

Recent Prigozhin situation is direct result of someone asking the AI:

"Which regional conditions would lead to Nukes falling into hands of a rogue player?"

Do you understand now what's going on? This is all a script, although its manifestation is in real world, and it has potential to affect all of us.

In this scenario a situation will be created where entire world will be in fear of getting nuked by a wild card player.
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I'm listening - the sub thing ties into this as well - it seemed obvious with all the headlines globally that it was a dry run for something 'intense and emotional'.

They're going to have to nuke somewhere to elicit the required 'countdown to possible doom' fear globally.
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Blackrock had AI in the 80's predicting the stock market and completely took over. It was called Aladdin. Anything after that including 9/11 could have been run by AI. If a technology is released to the general public then it is at least 30 years old.
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I think they are the wingmakers.
Al beilek said that in future the world is governed by computers





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