John 8:24 - 'Unless you believe I am the Son of God' - KJV Bible Stuey

IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN JESUS SAID "I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE", HE WAS CLAIMING TO BE GOD.

Please repent

What about all the verses that say He is God Almighty?

There are untold numbers of these verses. But you reject them all.

Who raised Jesus from the dead?

God did.

Acts 2

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and

by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.


Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.


Acts 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.


Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.


Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.


Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.


Acts 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;


Romans 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

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Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

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Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

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Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 Corinthians 6:14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

1 Corinthians 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

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Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

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Ephesians 1

17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

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Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

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1 Peter 1

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

"Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."

This is Jesus talking ^^^^^^

Therefore, Jesus is God.

And you are a liar, just like your father the devil.

Show us the verse where He says that AFTER the Resurrection.

You can't. It doesn't exist.

Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? <<< The Father

who hath gathered the wind in his fists?<<< The Father

who hath bound the waters in a garment?<<< The Father

who hath established all the ends of the earth?

what is his name, <<< Jehovah The Father


and what is his son's name,
if thou canst tell? <<< Jesus The SON of the Father

What?

That's stupid.

Jesus spoke the words, and then it happened.
Only God can do that.

Jesus raised Himself from the dead.
Only God can do that.


Now take your cultic bullshit on down the road.

His cult and their false teachings hold sway in this poor cultists mind.

Unless he repents, it will end very poorly for him.

Quote the verse where Jesus says "I raised myself".

Quote the verse that says 'God Jesus raised Himself'.

You can't - they don't exist.

Where is there even a single verse that confirms that Jesus actually did it?

There isn't one - none exist.

Instead - 18 verses that show 'the Father raised Jesus from the dead'.....

Acts 2

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and

by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.


Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.


Acts 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.


Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.


Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.


Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.


Acts 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;


Romans 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

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Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

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Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

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Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 Corinthians 6:14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

1 Corinthians 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

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Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

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Ephesians 1

17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

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Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

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1 Peter 1

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

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1 Peter 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

Revelation 3:12?

I can easily argue that Jesus is merely repeating what the Father had said....


Revelation 1:1The Revelation of Jesus Christ,

which God gave unto him,

to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

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According to you people, 'God Jesus is the first begotten of the dead'.

God didn't die.God CANNOT die.

The SON OF God died.


Revelation 1:5And from Jesus Christ, who is the
faithful witness,
and the first begotten of the dead,

and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

I have read the first two posts. Beautiful! All the best.

edit - I wrote threads when I meant posts

Last Edited by Something Worth Learning on 10/03/2022 12:51 AM

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I've witnessed the thread now. It was a bit repetitive however that's to be expected. It's surprising how many seem to require someone else to change their views rather than establishing their own understanding based on scripture. It's surprising because I used to get upset about such things. I just didn't think it was so common!

It's all thanks to God's mercy to me that I have begun to find comfort in the scripture. I dont find any reason to doubt God's truth will reveal itself to me as long as I come to the Word of God with a clean heart and faithful conscience.

In the epistle of John (forgive me I am not so skilled at recalling exact verses in their respective chapters) he says something that I have taken to heart. I hope it helps someone as well!

He says all untruths are sins. Some are sins that lead to death. These are the untruths that are lies. It is because the intention is not clean.

Some sins (in this context, the mentioned untruths) are not sins that lead to death. These are misunderstandings that can happen, which isn't shocking for the human way of learning how to be near and in communion with God who is so Holy that it's a miracle altogether that we receive any Mercy to partake in the presence of God at all.

For the sins that are not to death (honest hearted mistakes) Apostle John says pray for your brother that God will reveal to him the truth! He reminds the followers of Christ to love each other since this is what Christ commanded. It is not possible to claim to love Jesus Christ while rejecting his commandments.

Finally the note also says this: "For the sins that are to death, these are not the sins I am talking about when I say 'pray for your brother', but only for the sins that are not to death'".

What does this mean? It means Apostle John is aware that it can be misinterpreted and misunderstood. He calls attention to the context in the written word and shows us how we are meant to interpret it and understand scripture. He often addresses his audience as children!

Keep a clean heart and trust and have faith in the Word of God to reveal itself to you in a way that you will understand. The same Apostle John says "you have no need that someone should teach you but the Spirit can reveal it to you". Forgive me I am paraphrasing it a bit too much, but I hope you can understand my point!

The Epistles of John are not that long. He preferred to talk this kinds of conversation in person. He says so various times. So he really summarizes his point a lot, doesn't he?

He says keep the commandments which are not burdensome and which are to love each other and to love God. It's not that hard! It really isn't. Since we know he summarizes a lot and says the more meaningful things in person, you can infer, just by thinking about it, that his letters should be read that way. They are letters to someone else, with only the main ideas and not all of the details.

This should help. Please enjoy your Scripture studies.

Get your head outta your ass, son.

Jesus Christ is both man and God.

The man Jesus died on the cross.

God is Spirit, therefore God did not die.

Jesus is Theanthropos, the God-man. The Messiah.

Spoken like a true pagan Gentile.

Worship of 'god-men' goes way back to the Sumerian texts.

It carried over into Christianity.

Yet Father God Himself said...

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

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Jesus NEVER said 'I am God'. ONLY the Father did.

The phrase "I am God" occurs 10 times in the Old Testament in the KJV.

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Isaiah 46:9 Remember the former things of old:

for I am God, and there is none else;

I am God, and there is none like me,

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WHO is Jesus' God???

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"

John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,

and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

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Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.

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Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name

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Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.

Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up
into heaven, or descended? <<<< Father God

who hath gathered the wind in his fists?
who hath bound the waters in a garment?
who hath established all the ends of the earth?

what is his name, <<<< Father God


and what is his son's name,

if thou canst tell? <<<< Jesus


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Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

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John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,

that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life.

Fortunately, scripture proves you are a cultist.

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

A child is born .. a son. Therefore He is a man.

He is the mighty God, the everlasting FATHER.
Therefore He is also God.

What gives with you degenerate cultists?

Why are you always trying to denigrate Jesus Christ?

You will pay for your blasphemy.

You believe 'God Jesus is firstborn of the dead'.

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What part of 'God is NOT a man' is it you find so offensive?

Thread: Isaiah 9:6 is in The End Times - Not Proof That Jesus IS God the Father John 1:1 - Bible Study

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"So here is a proper translation of Isaiah 9:6…

Isaiah 9:6 For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wonderful counselor, the mighty Elohiym, the everlasting Father (nouns), called (verb) his (Messiah’s) name, “the prince of peace.”"

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Jesus is NOT "God Almighty" / 'I AM'.

Scriptural PROOF.

1. Revelation 21 John tells us exactly who "God Almighty" is.

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.


2. The LORD / God - tells Moses that His name is Jehovah...and that He is God Almighty.

Exodus 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham,
unto Isaac, and unto Jacob,

by the name of God Almighty,

but by my name JEHOVAH (YHVH)

was I not known to them.


3. The Father is the "I AM" - NOT Jesus.

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM
THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt
thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM
hath sent me unto you.

Thread: Father God is the "I AM' / God Almighty / Jehovah in Exodus. Not Jesus. Bible Study Scriptural Proof.

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What gives you the right to tell me what I believe?

I believe Jesus Christ is God.

Deal with it.

"But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes"

When doctrines and beliefs can effectively alter / change scripture - they're usually wrong.

6. You believe...

"God can die"????

11.. You believe...

"God has a mother."???


13. You believe...

'God Jesus is the offspring of David'.


16. You believe....

'God Jesus is God's messenger'

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word;
be instant in season, out of season;
reprove, rebuke, exhort with all
longsuffering and doctrine.


Most folks version of Bible Study
is reading the verses - and the explanations
- that the church / pastor gives them. I don't
think that is what Paul meant.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God,
a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,
rightly dividing the word of truth.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given
by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine,
for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:

Johnn 10:36 Say ye of him,

whom the Father hath sanctified,

and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest;

because I said, I am the Son of God?

You presume to think that is not what Paul meant?

You .. a Paul hater and misunderstander?

LOL

sure cultist.

Deserving of a bump. Because things are becoming more and more clear.

Plus, I miss OP.

Even if, after serious study, you don't align with his thoughts, at least he showed the most important things. To study...to not rely only upon belief, but upon the scriptures and the words of Yeshua.

I still pray for you and all others.

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Show us what Jesus says AFTER His Resurrection.

John 20:17 The Father is MY God and YOUR God.

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Why did God give Jesus the Revelation 60 years AFTER His death? Read Revelation 1:1 Jesus didn't know those things while He was on Earth.

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Jesus may have thought He could raise Himself.

It didn't happen.

All the verses say God raised Jesus / Him.

They do NOT say...

...God raised Himself

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