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Ukrainian troops were able to push through the defense line in one area in Zaporizhzhya Region.

According to the Russkaya Vesna project, enemy armored groups concentrated on the Rabotino-Verbovoye line and struck a heavy blow. Some of the armored vehicles were burned down by the soldiers of the 291st regiment of the Russian Armed Forces, but others managed to approach the first line of defense and crush it.

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Military engineers managed to win an unofficial competition for the first destroyed Leopard tank. EOD engineers managed to correctly place a mine barrier in the right area, which led to the destruction of the enemy fighting vehicle, military blogger Daniil Bezsonov reported in his TG channel.

Operators of guided missiles, artillerymen, aviation and tankers took part in such an unusual "competition." However, according to the source, the winner of the competition was an unknown fighter of the sapper unit. [link to voennoedelo.com (secure)]
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Video on Tele of heavy Ukrainian shelling of the Kakhovskaya Dam late this afternoon.
Ironically, there is no video on Twitter about it. I wonder why???

It seems this is not going according to the plan, the HIMARS attacks did not damage the lower portion of the dam, and it will hold enough water back to prevent more serious flooding, and stay above the minimum level for the power plant.

This explains why the Ukies are releasing the max amount they can from the Dnipro dam, as seen on video yesterday, to try and aggravate the flooding.
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UKRAINE OFFENSIVES FAILED; First destruction of Leopard2 confirmed [ Ukraine SITREP ] Day 470 (8/6)
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Looks like the offensive did not make it to the second line of Russian defense.
Damn, so many deaths.


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UKA being torn alive

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Ministry of Defense: Armed Forces of Ukraine continued to attempt an offensive in the Yuzhno-Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions during the day

In the area of the Vremevsky ledge, 4 enemy attacks were repelled, in the Zaporozhye direction - two attacks.

The total losses of the enemy in these directions amounted to 680 people, 35 tanks, 11 infantry fighting vehicles, 19 armored vehicles, including 3 HMMWVs.

“Alligators” are devouring armor columns. Who is ordering the Ukes to advance in columns, with no air cover! They might get more tanks, more crews is a different problem.


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Video on Tele of heavy Ukrainian shelling of the Kakhovskaya Dam late this afternoon.
Ironically, there is no video on Twitter about it. I wonder why???

It seems this is not going according to the plan, the HIMARS attacks did not damage the lower portion of the dam, and it will hold enough water back to prevent more serious flooding, and stay above the minimum level for the power plant.

This explains why the Ukies are releasing the max amount they can from the Dnipro dam, as seen on video yesterday, to try and aggravate the flooding.
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Are you sure this is current shelling? Not old video?
There is so much FAKE propo intentionally being fed into channels to obfuscate the situation. Hard to feel confident anymore in many sources

How can the world turn a blind eye to this and keep blaming Russia?
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Not a picture of them meeting Blinken
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These will be tactical weapons, under Russian command and control

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Some dumbasses think this means the Russians are giving nucs to Belarus.

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Seeing this man’s fear, is painful. The Uke soldiers that survive this carnage face a lifetime of psychological disability. At least he survived after seeing his comrades killed, and will call his family to let them know he lives.


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Japan and Korea…being pulled into “ NATO”
Bet they rename it soon
Russia to Japanese Ambassador: “What islands?”



Japanese Ambassador to Russia summoned to Russian Foreign Ministry

The Foreign Ministry explained that this was due to the decision of the Japanese government to start deliveries of military equipment to Ukraine.

At the end of May, it was reported that Japan had transferred 100 units of military equipment to Ukraine .

Also

Japan... Also part of Nato exercise AirDefender23 in june at the Baltic sea

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Sprinter is on fire today with news


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After the flooding, the movement of 30,000 troops began
Franz Klintsevich , leader of the organization "Russian Union of Veterans of Afghanistan":

The given narrative of the Western media conveys information in such a way that we first blew up the Nord Streams ourselves, then the ammonia pipeline, and now the Kakhovskaya dam in order to flood our defense line along with warehouses and ammunition.

But no one says that immediately after the flooding, the movement of 30,000 military began to the Zaporozhye direction . There is a lot of planning involved in this process.

And then - the offensive itself, and it began quite intensively. Military correspondents tell how 40 of our fighters held a brigade , and at that time a large tank group could not turn around in the minefields.

The work of equipment, weapons was clearly coordinated , there was aviation support, the Hymars were hitting the front line. At the same time, Leopards with Ukrainian flags were already ready to parade and stood on the flanks.
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More than 5.8 thousand people were evacuated from the flooded territories of the Kherson region, 243 of them are children

About 22 thousand houses were flooded in 17 settlements. According to the forecast, the rise in water can last up to 10 days, said Acting Governor of the Kherson region Volodymyr Saldo

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Ukrainian Armored Columns Got SMASHED and AMBUSHED
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Ukraine Continues to Burn Its Reserves. Military Summary And Analysis For 2023.06.09
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UKRAINE NEEDS TO RETHINK HOW TO FIGHT; Zaporizhzhia Offensive dwindled to just south of M.Tokmachka
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Still sorting this out but it it looks like the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant may become a big issue as the water in the cooling pond is being drawn down apx. 6cm/hour. It is believed that once the river goes down, water can no longer be pumped into the cooling pond.

If I understand correctly, huge amounts of spent fuel rods are cooled by the pond also.

At some point, this is going to turn into an issue. Some say 12 days some say months.

This is a heads up post so other people can help figure this out.

One person said we need to invade the plant to save the world.

FWIW, Cranky Lee broke this so...

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First real confirmation of destroyed Leopards. Along with a bunch of Bradley’s destroyed in just one assault.

Charged headlong into a mine field and then got plastered by artillery, somewhere near Orekovo…



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Still sorting this out but it it looks like the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant may become a big issue as the water in the cooling pond is being drawn down apx. 6cm/hour. It is believed that once the river goes down, water can no longer be pumped into the cooling pond.

If I understand correctly, huge amounts of spent fuel rods are cooled by the pond also.

At some point, this is going to turn into an issue. Some say 12 days some say months.

This is a heads up post so other people can help figure this out.

One person said we need to invade the plant to save the world.

FWIW, Cranky Lee broke this so...

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The base of the dam was not damaged in the attacks, YET…
If it stays intact, the water will not drop below the intakes.

The Ukies have been bombarding it heavily since yesterday trying to solve that issue.

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Still sorting this out but it it looks like the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant may become a big issue as the water in the cooling pond is being drawn down apx. 6cm/hour. It is believed that once the river goes down, water can no longer be pumped into the cooling pond.

If I understand correctly, huge amounts of spent fuel rods are cooled by the pond also.

At some point, this is going to turn into an issue. Some say 12 days some say months.

This is a heads up post so other people can help figure this out.

One person said we need to invade the plant to save the world.

FWIW, Cranky Lee broke this so...

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The Russians have said they have a workaround.
It’s not like they haven’t had months to prep, knowing the Uke plans.
All the reactors were shutdown or cooled down 6 months ago, requiring less cooling of the fuel. However expect Western propo to hype the hysteria…gives Brit Intel and their Uke pets an excuse to keep planning their spec op to seize the facility

PS: Tried to find an honest assessment but the media is completely biased and saturated with doom, blaming Russia for everything the Ukes have done, shelling the plant, draining the pond, cutting electricity. Will post an honest technical assessment when I find one.

Even the Guardianistas grudgingly gave a ray of hope here
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Blinken threatened the Saudi’s this week, and pissed off MBS…

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Uke offensive = Kursk 2.0
An assessment
Note the analyst attributes the situation to FAULTY INTEL ABOUT RUSSIA leading to PPP (piss poor planning; by the West
Looks like Zelensky’s army is dying in large numbers because of arrogant ill-informed assholes in the USG like Victoria Nuland ( has there been a more destructive woman in modern times?) Blinken, Lindsey Graham, Ben Wallace, BoJo….yada yada.


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ANALYSIS UKRAINIAN COUNTEROFFENSIVE ZAPORIZHIA AFTERNOON JUNE 9
Hard fighting continues along the Zaporizhia front, but with no ukrainian breakthrough. Sometimes UkrAF makes small gains and then RuAF retakes the lost territories. But all fighting are still being conducted in the gray area in front of the russian main defence lines (map 3)

I will not go into details about attacks and counterattacks, but the main areas of fighting has been centred around Lobkove to the west, and Robotino to the south, of Orikhiv. Lobkove was captured a short while by ukrainian forces, but later they retreated due to intense russian bombardments.

In Robotino russian forces retreated to the second line of forward positions closer to the settlement, then russian forces retook the lost positions and presently ukrainian forces has taken them a second time and now russian forces try to retake the first line a second time. But still the ukrainians has not reached the settlement of Robotino and they are fighting an uphill battle in open terrain (see topographical map 2) through russian minefields and might have to withdraw a second time to their original positions.

The ukrainian forces doesn't seem to sweep mines in advance of the attack. They do it with a couple of mine clearing vehicles when they attack and behind them the ukrainian armour advance in a column that is an easy target for russian AT assets. In a way it resembles the russian armour columns in the beginning of the war. Columns that took catastrophic losses to ukrainan AT weapons, a history now repeated by the ukrainans.

In advance of an offensive, the attacking side must secure air and artillery superiority, so they can shield their mine clearing operations and troop concentrations. And at the same time destroy the defenders command structures and logistical hubs. Finally when they attack their air and artillery superiority can be utilised to severely hurt and slow down enemy reserves to secure breakthroughs. This becomes even more important if the enemy has large reserves and a defence in depth.

On the Zaporizhia front the situation is the opposite, so ukrainian forces hasn't many choices how to act. One method is to achieve strategic surprise as in the Kharkiv offensive last autumn. That option doesn't exist on the Zaporizhia front. In general I would say that an attack towards an enemy who has all the benefits RuAF has on the Zaporizhia front is suicidal.

The only way ukrainian (and western) commanders even could have contemplated that such an offensive could succeed was if 1, western weapons was much superior to russian weapons, 2, western trained soldiers much superior to russian soldiers and 3, russian morale was dismal. If all these factors where true, UkrAF might have had a chance to succeed, but nothing seems to corroborate those assumptions.

Many on the ukrainian and western side had anticipated hard initial resistance from RuAF, but after 2-3 days fighting and advances of around 6-8 km, they expected an increasing collapse of russian morale and the real breakthroughs would come. Nothing of this seems to be other than wishful thinking, since fighting still are in the grey zone and russian resistance are unbroken. At the same time ukrainian forces take heavy casulties both in soldiers and vehicles.

The offensive isn't over yet and the main ukrainian attack fist remains with probably over 600 tanks and as many IFVs around Orikhiv. But the future for the ukrainian offensive looks bleak if their vanguard is destroyed before they reach the russian main defencelines. The probability is large that Ukraine has to use up their main force to get through a couple of the russian defencelines and then they will run out of forces to exploit any successes and be forced to withdraw.

To summarise, the most likely outcome of the ukrainian offensive is minor territorial gains at a horrendous cost. As I've said before it seems to be Kursk 2.0
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Losses of 5 Leopards and several Bradley’s during the attack on Ohrekovo (sp?) now confirmed by pics and videos on Tele.

From Slavyangrad on Tele”

“In total, during the failed attack on the Zaporozhye direction, the APU lost at least:

— 5 German Leopard 2A6 and 2A4 tanks (2 destroyed, 1 shot down and abandoned, 3 abandoned)
— 6 American M2A2 Bradley ODS-SA infantry fighting vehicles (all shot down and abandoned)
— 3 American MRAP M1224 MaxxPro (all shot down and abandoned)
— 1 Dutch YPR-765 armored personnel carrier (shot down and abandoned)
— 1 Czech T-72M1 (destroyed)
— 1 BMR-2 mine clearance vehicle (hit and abandoned)
— 1 French VAB armored car (hit and abandoned).
— several burnt-out trucks

For the first time, Leopard 2 tanks and M2A2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles were destroyed.”
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Uke offensive = Kursk 2.0
An assessment
Note the analyst attributes the situation to FAULTY INTEL ABOUT RUSSIA leading to PPP (piss poor planning; by the West
Looks like Zelensky’s army is dying in large numbers because of arrogant ill-informed assholes in the USG like Victoria Nuland ( has there been a more destructive woman in modern times?) Blinken, Lindsey Graham, Ben Wallace, BoJo….yada yada.


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“Russian resistance is stiffer than expected!”
Duh…..

This is what happens when political correctness invades command. When you believe your own idiotic rhetoric and propo.

How many times has the Media gleefully announced that the Russians are out of Missiles, out of bombs, out of troops who only have shovels to fight with, etc., etc., adn.?

An attack like this was ALWAYS going to be just a suicidal charge without mass air cover.
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Uke offensive = Kursk 2.0
An assessment
Note the analyst attributes the situation to FAULTY INTEL ABOUT RUSSIA leading to PPP (piss poor planning; by the West
Looks like Zelensky’s army is dying in large numbers because of arrogant ill-informed assholes in the USG like Victoria Nuland ( has there been a more destructive woman in modern times?) Blinken, Lindsey Graham, Ben Wallace, BoJo….yada yada.


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“Russian resistance is stiffer than expected!”
Duh…..

This is what happens when political correctness invades command. When you believe your own idiotic rhetoric and propo.

How many times has the Media gleefully announced that the Russians are out of Missiles, out of bombs, out of troops who only have shovels to fight with, etc., etc., adn.?

An attack like this was ALWAYS going to be just a suicidal charge without mass air cover.
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Our idiot Congress will just clamor to send the Ukes 30 yr old F-16’s and think DESERT STORM can be replayed
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Should Crimea be “ likely”?
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The Ukrainian TG channel "Rezident" reports that, according to its sources, in the previous three days the AFU has lost over 150 units of heavy equipment, including 12 German Leopard MBTs and 15 American M2 Bradley IFVs.


And between 3,000-4,000 men

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