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Dodger007

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Of course, the folks voted for this, yes?


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The famous American TV presenter Tucker Carlson, who was fired from Fox News Channel and is now working on his own media project, commented on the incident that happened the day before in Novaya Kakhovka.


In the first episode of his new author program, which was watched by millions of users, Tucker Carlson called the strikes on the dam of the Kakhovka hydroelectric power plant an act of terrorism.

American journalist:

If it wasn't an accident, if it wasn't a military tactic, then it's terrorism. I also wonder who is responsible for the bombing of the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 pipelines. And I am sure that the responsibility for this lies to a certain extent with the Ukrainian authorities.

According to Carlson, blowing up the dam at the Kakhovka reservoir is a "bad event for Ukraine," but it does more harm to Russia.

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The Ukrainian government was considering destroying the facility. Last December, The Washington Post cited an interview with a Ukrainian general who said that the dam had been shelled by American-made rockets (HIMARS). And when these facts come out, what happened already looks less of a mystery.

According to Tucker Carlson, an adequately minded person would conclude that it was probably the Ukrainians who blew up the hydroelectric plant.

Meanwhile, there is also discussion about how Kiev was once hurt by the news that Russia had restored the operation of the North Crimean Canal, which allowed water to flow into Crimea. This is one of the factors that may be behind the Ukrainian strikes on the dam - to once again create difficulties for Crimeans with the supply of water from the mainland. [link to topwar.ru (secure)]
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How long before Russia goes after the true decision-making centers behind all this terrorism, whether they're in Brussels, DC, under the Denver airport, or wherever? Would anyone blame them? I sure wouldn't.

I'm certain the Russians know where the various heads of the snake are. And they could take them out in such a way where they have plausible deniability, as the terrorists are so fond of doing.
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I totally agree with you.
That's probably why the president of Russia is neither me nor you.
Putin is a lawyer by training - he is a fan of laws, and probably hopes to win otherwise...
or maybe it's just "not the time yet."hf
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Is Ukraine's Offensive Failing? | Summer Offensive Update 07/06/23
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UKRAINIAN OFFENSIVES AT VELYKA NOVOSILKA, BAKHMUT, AVDIIVKA [ Ukraine SITREP ] Day 467-468 (5-6/6)
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More on a second heinous act of Uke environmental sabotage committed within 72 hours
Blowing up the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline
Hasn’t been reported in western media
Seems to be Kiev’s ultimate Fuck-Off response to Russian conditions to export ammonia ( required for fertilizer production) as part of the renewed grain deal


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MOSCOW, (Sputnik) - A Ukrainian sabotage group has blown up the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline in Kharkov region. There are casualties among the civilian population, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Wednesday.
"On June 5, at about 21:00 Moscow time [18:00 GMT], a Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance group blew up the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline near the settlement Masyutovka in Kharkov Region," the ministry said.
The explosion of the pipeline was designated as a terrorist attack, there are victims among the civilian population, they have "received the necessary medical assistance," according to the MoD…..

Ammonia is not recognized as a traditional chemical weapons agent, but exposure to very high levels of the chemical can damage the lungs and cause death. Ammonia is also highly toxic to fish, wildlife, and plant life.
Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said repair work on the pipeline could take up to three months, and only if Russia is able to ensure access to the attack site.…..

The Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline runs from the Russian region of Samara, entering Ukraine at Kharkov and pushing south and west toward the Black Sea coastal city of Odessa, where the resource is exported. Ammonia is a key raw material used in the enrichment of natural fertilizers.

The pipeline was built in 1979 during the Soviet period, and, until recently, was able to transport up to 2.5 million tons of ammonia per year. The pipeline's use was stopped last February after the long-running crisis in Donbass escalated into a full-blown Russia-NATO proxy war in Ukraine. ….

Russia has sought to reactivate the pipeline as part of the Grain Deal negotiated with the help of Turkiye and the United Nations last year. Last month, Moscow warned that if its demands to reconnect the Russian Agricultural Bank to SWIFT and relaunch the pipeline were not addressed, the Grain Deal would be terminated after July 17….

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Russia sees no prospects for extending grain deal

The Russian official also said that conditions for the relaunch of the ammonia pipeline put forward by Kiev had brought the situation to a deadlock.

"The conditions, unfortunately, are put forward by Kiev, we have spoken about this several times. And it has been said several times that ammonia is included in the agreements that were signed in Istanbul [Black Sea grain deal], which implies that it should be exported and serve as a mutually beneficial commercial enterprise. Restricting this, as Kiev does, with various kinds of requirements, unfortunately, is very bad and has already led and is leading the situation to a dead end," Vershinin said.

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The light is coming on, even for the Kiev cheer team


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Russian Paratrooper Lancet operators discovered and destroyed a US made Patriot anti missile system, close to the front line.
Video coming later.
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Khakhova Dam: Strike 1
Ammonia Pipeline: Strike 2
Zaporozhye NPP: Strike 3 and Off to Bandera

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Pretty good summary


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Oh dear, things are really not going well for Kiev's counteroffensive. The fighting has been going on mainly in the security zone, AFU assaults haven't even managed to get as far as Russia's main defensive lines yet. This is just a pointless slaughter to appease Zelensky's Western overlords.

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News from the Zaporizhzhia direction - several attempted attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were repulsed during the day, to which additional reinforcements were pulled from other directions.

The Russian army held back the attacks, covering the enemy with artillery and air strikes, destroying armored vehicles and infantry of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. By the beginning of the evening, military correspondents reported the destruction of several hundred soldiers killed and wounded, up to twenty units of armored vehicles, of which at least four were tanks. Later it became known about the repulsed attack of the enemy along the Orekhov-Tokmak highway - an organized artillery strike, advancing with the support of armored combat vehicles and mortars, the infantry was stopped.

Nevertheless, military correspondents on the ground and experts, analyzing the nature of the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, predict new attempts to attack, possibly tomorrow night.
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The army aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces has entered the battle, combat helicopters are burning the armor of the AFU.

The exact composition of the Ukrainian forces involved is still unknown.
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Interesting
Will France and Germany prevail over the US and UK?
Will Russia accept terms or is it too soon?
As Ukrainians now dying by the thousands, for nothing really


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Khakhovka Dam shelling video
this was caught already after the main strike that took the dam out, likely an attempt to widen the gap to increase the water flow

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the video is taken from the left bank ( russian side, judging from the flow of the water from right to left )
notice the tilt of the impact to the left indicating
strike vector is from the right bank ( uke side )

the strike was executed with Uke Olha-2 ( Vilkha in ukrainian language ) MLRS

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Khakhovka Dam shelling video
this was caught already after the main strike that took the dam out, likely an attempt to widen the gap to increase the water flow

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the video is taken from the left bank ( russian side, judging from the flow of the water from right to left )
notice the tilt of the impact to the left indicating
strike vector is from the right bank ( uke side )

the strike was executed with Uke Olha-2 ( Vilkha in ukrainian language ) MLRS

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If the counteroffensive is not going well…this was what they would be expected to say
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The enemy has long promised a great counter-offensive.
And it seems to have already started something.
No surprises, because the Kiev regime has no choice. It is necessary to attack. We have to justify the dough and weapons we received. The owners' disappointment could cost Zelensky and Co not only their posts, but their very lives.

It takes just a few reports from American agents, who have long been in charge of the SBU, and the whole cocaine gang will be scrapped immediately.
They will be accused of wasting American taxpayers' money. And they will do it with other people's hands, as they like to do in Langley: they will order the radical scumbags to smack the drug addict for treason and the Bandera cause, and then hang him with his henchmen by his feet, as they once hanged Duce and his fascist junta on the Loreto square in Milan.

Therefore, the Kiev regime has only one choice - to go all the way, sending thousands of mobilized people to their doom.

But in this case, too, we should not underestimate the enemy.
The enemy and the Western world, which supports it, are willing to do anything to wipe our country off the face of the earth.
So the main thing now is to concentrate as much as possible and give a decent response. Our army has a considerable advantage in aviation, armored forces and high-precision weapons. And, of course, moral superiority.

We need to stop the enemy and then launch an offensive.
His goal today is not only to liberate our lands and protect our people. His goal is the complete overthrow of the Nazi Kiev regime, which has entrenched itself in country 404.
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surprisingly. but no one died after the breach of the dam. everyone was taken out in time.
I have been waiting with horror for information about the victims...
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Don’t know who this appeal was directed to.
Lindsey Graham, maybe?


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According to former National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency official and Air Force veteran David Grush, U.S. authorities were able to get their hands on spacecraft of extraterrestrial origin. The operation was part of a secret military program.

"These are technical vehicles of extraterrestrial origin, call them spaceships if you want, vehicles of extraterrestrial exotic origin that either landed or crashed."
NewsNation quoted the former spy as saying.
Grash said that the U.S. has been restoring alien ships for decades. He noted that he was once entrusted with "some of the government's best kept secrets. However, he refused to give proof of his words. [link to voennoedelo.com (secure)]
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Observers of the English-language online newspaper Taiwan News interviewed a native of Taiwan who took part in the military conflict in Ukraine as a member of the International Legion of Ukrainian Territorial Defense.

According to him, during combat operations, Russian Armed Forces soldiers twice almost completely destroyed the personnel of his platoon.

"My platoon was twice almost completely destroyed. I was the only one who was lucky to remain unharmed twice. This is despite the fact that in our area the intensity of fighting was not the highest."
a "soldier of fortune" from Taiwan told reporters.
In addition, the journalist's interlocutor said that during military operations in Ukraine, many of his fellow soldiers faced prolonged physical strain, fatigue, and harsh service conditions, which were exacerbated by prolonged massive artillery fire by the Russian Armed Forces. This state of affairs, the mercenary noted, caused many of his friends to "lose their will" and go home.

"However, the truth is that many do."
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During his speech at a press conference with the media, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said that he currently has an understanding of how many American light fighter jets F-16s will be transferred to Kiev by its Western allies. However, he never specified the promised number of these military aircraft.

"Our last very important meeting in Moldova, where I had one private meeting with a number of countries that confirmed that they would definitely give us F-16s. I've received from some European partners an understanding of the quantity already. It is powerful."
Zelenskyy answered to a journalist's question about the possibility of Western countries supplying fighter aircraft to Ukraine.
At the same time, Zelensky noted that Ukraine currently lacks the infrastructure necessary to operate and maintain American F-16 fighters. According to him, it will immediately begin to be built when Kiev reaches a full agreement on the supply of fighters.

"There is no point in preparing it until there is an agreement that we will have the appropriate aircraft."
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I did not understand in the end: there is an agreement, or there is no agreement?
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OT, but not really


beatings will continue until morale improves
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The “ counteroffensive” is being reported on multiple channels all along the front as a goddamn bloody rout of Uke troops being sent to slaughter.

WTH is that homoerotic actor Zelensky?
Is Zaluzhny out of the picture and these are the orders of his replacement?

Looking like Ukraine’s “Longest Day” is turning into a “ Longest Week”…or month.


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“The twitter post refers to Ukrainian assaults as "suicide attacks" in multiple areas. There are claims of clearing minefields using infantry ! I don't recall anything such as this happening since the Iran-Iraq war in which young martyrs died in masses clearing mines with their bodies.

If they are pushing troops forward this way, then it's not hyperbole, they are suicide attacks. How can Ukrainian men do this? Or their commanders order it? The US opinions of the Japanese worsened, if anything, in the time of the kamikazis. As if they were less than human fanatics, unworthy of life…”

“ Looks like Russia has exchanged their Prigozhin II Wagner(TM) home meat grinder for a Surovikin 3000 Industrial Meatgrinder to cover entire frontline.
May the poor Ukranian souls who were pushed to this grinder find peace.”
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If Ukraine fails to win in an armed conflict with Russia, the very point of discussing its membership in the North Atlantic Alliance will disappear. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said this at a forum in Brussels.


The secretary general of the military-political bloc noted that the most important task now is to ensure the victory of Ukraine in the conflict. Only in this case, says Stoltenberg, will Ukraine be able to preserve itself as a "sovereign state," because the other option involves the impossibility of its existence as an "independent democracy" in the European political space.

Naturally, Stoltenberg notes, if Ukraine is defeated, there will be no question of its membership in the alliance, because the very subject of discussion will disappear. In fact, the West is giving the Kiev regime a choice: either to continue fighting "until the end," or there will be no support, and then Kiev will not even be able to dream of membership in NATO and the EU.

In addition, the NATO Secretary General noted that Western countries now need to remain united in their support for Ukraine. Apparently, he implies further deliveries of military products to the Kiev regime and sponsorship of its unleashed hostilities "to the last Ukrainian. [link to topwar.ru (secure)]
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George Soros is a vivid mouthpiece of a part of transnational business, interested in maintaining the dominance of the U.S. on the world stage and allowing any possible sacrifices for the sake of this. Ukraine is only a bargaining chip in this game, and its transformation into a desert is only to the advantage of these business circles.


The Crimean Peninsula, the home base of the Russian Navy, should now become the target. With the destruction of the land bridge, Crimea will be dependent on Ukraine for its water supply

- states Soros in his new article published in Project Syndicate after the destruction of the Kakhovka Dam.

In his words, the difficulties that the destruction of the Crimean bridge will lead to will, in his opinion, have a favorable effect on the internal political situation in the country. The lack of water on the peninsula, he believes, will give the Ukrainian authorities an opportunity to manipulate Russia.

In fact, Soros calls for terrorist methods to influence Russian domestic politics.

At the same time, it is not clear how much Soros is aware of the true state of affairs. Crimea has been without water from Ukraine for years; during this time, Moscow has carried out a whole series of works which made it possible, though not completely, to compensate for the lack of water, eliminating the acute shortage of water. In addition, it is unclear what leverage the Kiev regime will have over the issue of water supply to Crimea - the flow of water to the peninsula was just coming from the Kakhovka reservoir.

It seems that the real desire of Soros is to destroy the Crimean bridge as such, as a symbol of a successful reunification with Russia, which the American billionaire considers to be the number one goal for the US.

It is also important here that Soros is actually openly talking about the benefit in the undermining of the Kakhovka Dam exactly for the Kiev regime. [link to topwar.ru (secure)]
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Former National Security Agency (NSA) employee Edward Snowden said that many of the countries he turned to for asylum after he was forced to leave his country were unable to provide him with proper protection. The former NSA and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) employee said this in a conversation with American journalist, lawyer and author Glenn Greenwald.


According to him, he initially had no intention of staying in Russia, but circumstances turned out differently. Snowden made it clear that only in Russia did he receive reliable protection from persecution by US intelligence agencies.

Generally, I hadn't originally planned to stay in Russia, because it was only a stopover on my way to Latin America. South America in the past has shown an openness to whistleblowers

- shared his impressions of the American special agent.

According to Snowden, he spent 40 days in the transit zone of Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport upon arrival, but many countries he had applied to during that time in the hope of obtaining political asylum from them, refused him. The reason for all this, as emphasized by the American technician, was the fear of how official Washington would react, while others also showed uncertainty about the possibility of ensuring his safety.

Edward Snowden:

When all options were exhausted, I applied for asylum in Russia and eventually got it

Recall that the occasion for Snowden's escape from the United States was a major international scandal that he initiated in the summer of 2013. This happened after a former CIA employee gave the Washington Post and Guardian newspapers secret materials about US and British intelligence surveillance programs on the Internet. He flew to Hong Kong and from there to Moscow, where he spent some time in the Sheremetyevo transit zone.

Russia eventually agreed to grant the special agent temporary asylum for two years. After two years, Russian authorities granted him a residence permit for 3 years, which was later extended for an indefinite period. In September of last year, the former NSA employee was granted Russian citizenship.
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The AFU Commander-in-Chief Zaluzhniy opposes the start of a counteroffensive without Western fighters to cover the ground troops
The AFU chief Valeriy Zaluzhnyy continues to oppose the start of a Ukrainian army counterattack without appropriate air support, the general demands to wait for Western fighters to arrive and only then begin the offensive operation. Zelensky's office disagrees with him.


Zaluzhny again fell out of the media and TV channels' view, the impression is that after a long absence the general was shown and taken away again. In fact, Zaluzhny is in place, but since he is actually in opposition to the current government on the issue of the counterattack, he has been cut off from full command.

According to Ukrainian resources, the AFU commander-in-chief is categorically against launching a counterattack without air support, Ukraine simply does not have the necessary number of aircraft and helicopters capable of covering the advancing ground units, as the recent events in the Zaporizhzhya direction have proven. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the bulk of the Ukrainian armored vehicles lost by the AFU were hit by army and operational tactical aviation. [link to topwar.ru (secure)]





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