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Revelation's wisdom can be found in Hindu, Egyptian and Mayan astro-theology for they all speak the same language/same message.

Here we look at 17 verses within Rev 12.. enjoy!


King James Version:


1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man [child].

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

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Verses 1-17 decoded

Revelation 12:1-2

1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the Sun, and the Moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.


These verses convey mother Gaia and her child our Moon as the 'twelve stars' align as the Draconian constellation of our Pole Star 'Thuban' given as a symbolic message above our solar system.

As the Moon travels around Gaia, from a view of the Sun and Heavens, it disappears only to reappear. Hidden from view the Moon slowly appears first as a small bump increasing in size giving the appearance of a pregnant mother until finally separating, as a mother giving child birth.
https://imgur.com/JB0USXX




Revelation 12:3-4

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great Red-dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.


This provocative misunderstood statement reveals Revelation's 'Wormwood' and it's mountainous Comet/Asteroid's transcending the Heavens on it's cyclic journey which eventually impacts Earth and it's Moon.

Our Moon's pock-marked surface bears these tell-tale signs from antiquity.

Revelation 12:5-6

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.


A thousand two hundred and threescore days calculates as 1260 and a numerical reference to the Orion cycle dictated by many of Earth's silent archaic monuments.

The man-child brought forth by the woman is an astronomy reference of Earth's tidal lock from our iron-cored Moon.

https://imgur.com/wo51o5x


Revelation 12:7-8

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.


This astronomical revelation explains the cyclical Deluge period given as the finality of Earth and it's Moon destruction period.

Revelation 12:9-11

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.


The great Dragon, the cycle of Ouroborus and it's Asteroid/Comet impact entering our solar system exits it's cyclical catastrophe leaving humanity decimated to rebirth it's few surviving nations revering the motions of the cosmos in a lesson not to be forgotten, for the cycle shall return.

Revelation 12:12-15

12 Therefore rejoice, ye Heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! For the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great Eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.


The great cyclical catastophe of the 'Dragon of the Heavens' is what causes and creates Earth's 'Ice-age' throwing off Earth's natural wobbled-tilt creating decimating climate change until Earth resettles and our Sun recreates photo-synthesis rejuvenating our life sequence as our planet becomes stable and habitable once again.

Revelation 12:16-17

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God..


Astronomy, the hidden secret given within scripture is a dictation from our Grandcestors of what they went through, and what following survival nations should expect from this cyclical catastrophe of our Heavenly solar system foretold not only in the various 'updated' denominations scripture books but also by revered nations given in monuments, petroglyphs and hieroglyphic history such as to name but thrice -

the Hindu, Egyptian and Mayan's astro-theology
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Real pastors talk about Christ, not politics and other b.s.
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Colossians 2:8
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
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He's interesting but if you're looking for a glp pastor Charles Lawson is your man
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He's interesting but if you're looking for a glp pastor Charles Lawson is your man
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My pastor is Jesus, I don't trust people.
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The time to flee the sunday keeping trinitarian preachers and their churches was yesterday folks.

Apostate protestantism is the "false prophet" that will be thrown into the lake of fire along with the "beast" (roman catholic church)

Why die with them?
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He's interesting but if you're looking for a glp pastor Charles Lawson is your man
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My pastor is Jesus, I don't trust people.
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I thought Jesus was a real person….
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They really hate the Rapture. hmm
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NO hate. It's a false doctrine.

Thread: Fear Not - Endure Until the End - Post-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study

Thread: THERE WILL BE NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE..here is why..IF you have the guts to read it.

Thread: After the Tribulation: Revisited - NO Pre-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study Christian Theology

Thread: Pre-Trib Rapture? How Does the Last Trump Happen BEFORE that? - KJV Bible Sutdy

Thread: The Great Tribulation is Not Wrath - Rapture End Times - KJV Bible Study

Thread: The Great Falling Away - Scripture Tells Us Exactly What It Is - Bible Study
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It was looking interesting for about a minute until he said the word : RAPTURE.
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Yup. False teacher. Avoid.
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Wow… Just finished this message. What a blessing! Thank you for sharing it!


John 3:19-21
”And this is the verdict: The Light has come into the world, but men loved the darkness rather than the Light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil, hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever practices the truth, comes into the Light, so that it may be seen clearly that what he has done has been accomplished in God.”
 Quoting: REaliZe


This is not totally accurate..
 Quoting: Mother Maggie


Candace has fact checked Jesus and confirmed this contains ‘misinformation’… Phew.

rolleyes


EDIT: At least you wear your false-prophet stripes with pride.

It will be easier to separate you on that day.
 Quoting: REaliZe

I didn't fast check it with Jesus.. Jesus never wrote a damned word,. he did NOT write at all... all your bible is thus hearsay to control the mobs. It has just enough sort of right in to cause all the mobs to vote it God's word.. God did not write it
Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
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JD is great. Preaches the truth every Sunday.

The problem with rapture haters is that they believe the "lost teaching of the rapture" was created by Margaret McDonald, popularized by Darby, etc.

The word rapture isn't in the Bible. It is taken from harpazo in the greek, where Paul said that the Body of Christ will be snatched away before the antichrist is revealed. Harpazo translated into Greek is rapturo.

Now you will have the dude who hates the rapture bump every rapture post for the last ten years onto the front page, trying to say it proves it is false.

Per the Bible itself:
The Body of Christ is not meant for wrath. It is kept out of the time of trial, not through. John sees the twelve representing the Body of Christ in His Revelation experience. Then he see others who he is told were slain in the Tribulation, seperate.

The snatching of the Body of Christ is a seperate event from Christ's second coming. At the snatching, the dead in Christ rise first, then the alive in Christ who remain are snatched out. At the second coming, Jesus defeats the armies of antichrist and then judges those left as saved and they go into the 1000 year Millennium, or those who are not saved are cast into outer darkness. If the saved are snatched before this judgement, no flesh will enter the 1000 year kingdom. It is a logical fallacy.

But you will never win the debate because many Christians hold to Catholic ideas, and they don't understand what the Body of Christ even is. Nor grace alone thrugh faith alone, etc.

So just pray for them.
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Rapture is like the rest of the catholic church message which is based on fear.

It teaches you that your God is judgmental and will punish you if you don't do his commandments.

That God will not only punish you, it will abandon you in the end time and only save it's favorites.

That's utter bullshit fear mongering.

God love is eternal and doesn't not require a commitment.

All this is based on the doctrine of fear, that God is separate from you.

FALSE. FALSE. FALSE.

You can RED Karma me all you want, the truth is the truth. You've been lied all your life believing the religions of this world which are ALL based on fear.

Without FEAR the religions will have NO reason to exist.
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JD is great. Preaches the truth every Sunday.

The problem with rapture haters is that they believe the "lost teaching of the rapture" was created by Margaret McDonald, popularized by Darby, etc.

The word rapture isn't in the Bible. It is taken from harpazo in the greek, where Paul said that the Body of Christ will be snatched away before the antichrist is revealed. Harpazo translated into Greek is rapturo.

Now you will have the dude who hates the rapture bump every rapture post for the last ten years onto the front page, trying to say it proves it is false.

Per the Bible itself:
The Body of Christ is not meant for wrath. It is kept out of the time of trial, not through. John sees the twelve representing the Body of Christ in His Revelation experience. Then he see others who he is told were slain in the Tribulation, seperate.

The snatching of the Body of Christ is a seperate event from Christ's second coming. At the snatching, the dead in Christ rise first, then the alive in Christ who remain are snatched out. At the second coming, Jesus defeats the armies of antichrist and then judges those left as saved and they go into the 1000 year Millennium, or those who are not saved are cast into outer darkness. If the saved are snatched before this judgement, no flesh will enter the 1000 year kingdom. It is a logical fallacy.

But you will never win the debate because many Christians hold to Catholic ideas, and they don't understand what the Body of Christ even is. Nor grace alone thrugh faith alone, etc.

So just pray for them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82731100


and Harpazo is why I changed my teaching to rapture is fusion with the Divine Father Fragment which is done individually by anyone who has made the grade in spiritual development. has jack shit to do with any religion. During the magnetic reversal a bunch folks ready will rapture and it has jack shit to do with religion and everything to do with the seeking of knowledge
Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
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Real pastors talk about Christ, not politics and other b.s.
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all things can be talked about in church.. real pastors don't know shit most of them about Christ to begin with.. they teach the mind control they are already controlled by. I quit my little church here because I couldn't take it anymore... the rolling in blood and all that satanic shit.
Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
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JD is great. Preaches the truth every Sunday.

The problem with rapture haters is that they believe the "lost teaching of the rapture" was created by Margaret McDonald, popularized by Darby, etc.

The word rapture isn't in the Bible. It is taken from harpazo in the greek, where Paul said that the Body of Christ will be snatched away before the antichrist is revealed. Harpazo translated into Greek is rapturo.

Now you will have the dude who hates the rapture bump every rapture post for the last ten years onto the front page, trying to say it proves it is false.

Per the Bible itself:
The Body of Christ is not meant for wrath. It is kept out of the time of trial, not through. John sees the twelve representing the Body of Christ in His Revelation experience. Then he see others who he is told were slain in the Tribulation, seperate.

The snatching of the Body of Christ is a seperate event from Christ's second coming. At the snatching, the dead in Christ rise first, then the alive in Christ who remain are snatched out. At the second coming, Jesus defeats the armies of antichrist and then judges those left as saved and they go into the 1000 year Millennium, or those who are not saved are cast into outer darkness. If the saved are snatched before this judgement, no flesh will enter the 1000 year kingdom. It is a logical fallacy.

But you will never win the debate because many Christians hold to Catholic ideas, and they don't understand what the Body of Christ even is. Nor grace alone thrugh faith alone, etc.

So just pray for them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82731100


and Harpazo is why I changed my teaching to rapture is fusion with the Divine Father Fragment which is done individually by anyone who has made the grade in spiritual development. has jack shit to do with any religion. During the magnetic reversal a bunch folks ready will rapture and it has jack shit to do with religion and everything to do with the seeking of knowledge
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NO, and for starters, your phony fragment crap isn't the rapture, and has nothing to do with GOD nor the rapture.

and again, mother maggie doesn't "teach" jack shit. she posts false, new-age garbage from her shitrantia book and phony journals. neither have anything to do with GOD or Jesus.

there is no magnetic reversal.
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And you also say Jesus is not God.
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And you also say Jesus is not God.
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Jesus NEVER says the phrase 'I am God'.

The phrase 'Jesus IS God' isn't in the Bible.

WHY is that? Here's what Jesus said - that you folks ignore.

WHO is Jesus' God???

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"


John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,


and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God
,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name


.....

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.


.....

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?


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There's no way he's not a GLP'er! rockon

Pastor JD is the BEST!!!
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THIS is a GLP pastor!



FIRE AND BRIMSTONE DOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM PREACHING!
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John 10:30
”I and the Father are one.”

John 14:9
Jesus said, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me, has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
There's. A. H0le. In. The. Sky.
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Real pastors talk about Christ, not politics and other b.s.
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It was for politics that they crucified Jesus! You cannot talk about Jesus without talking about politics. Of course, God planned to be the ultimate sacrifice for sin, as part of His perfect plan for salvation of man. Speaking of sin, satan fell and led astray 1/3 of angels, and deceived Adam and Eve because of politics! Satan was the first politician!

Pastors address the idols of the time warn their flock against them. If you talk about Christ, you inevitably talk anout politics as well, for the world is actively opposing God, just like Jesus said they would! Jesus Himself addressed politics and criticized the politicians vigorously. The anti-Christian political climate was predicted by Jesus, just as it was back then when the politicians crucified Him!

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John 10:30
”I and the Father are one.”

John 14:9
Jesus said, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me, has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
 Quoting: REaliZe

What did the Father tell Moses?

'No man can see me - lest they will die'.

And also look at John 10:36.

.....

Things that Jesus said...

...The Father is the one true God who sent me. John 17:3

...The Father is My God and your God. John 20:17

...the Father SENT me John 12:49-50

...the Father is GREATER than I. John 14:28 & John 10:29

...I do ONLY the Father's Will. John 6:37-39

...I PRAY to the Father. Matthew 26:36-42, Mark 14:32-39 & John 17

...I say what the Father has said. John 12:49-50

...The Father gives Jesus commandments. John 12:49-50

...I learned / do as the Father has showed me. John 5:19 & John 8:28

...I give THANKS to the Father. Luke 10:21 & John 11:41

...I don't KNOW when I will return...ONLY the Father KNOWS. Matthew 24:36

...I tell you to ask the Father in MY name. John 14:13

...I go to sit at the Father's right hand. Matthew 26:64 Mark 16:19

...I ASCEND to the Father, MY GOD and YOUR GOD. John 20:17

...the Father has given me authority. Matthew 28:18

...only the Father is good.. Luke 18:19

...The Father gave the task of Judgement to me. John 5:22
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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And you also say Jesus is not God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77476032

Jesus NEVER says the phrase 'I am God'.

The phrase 'Jesus IS God' isn't in the Bible.

WHY is that? Here's what Jesus said - that you folks ignore.

WHO is Jesus' God???

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"


John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,


and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God
,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name


.....

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.


.....

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


OK.

You dont believe the Rapture is true

and you dont believe Jesus is God.


What do you believe?
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And you also say Jesus is not God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77476032

Jesus NEVER says the phrase 'I am God'.

The phrase 'Jesus IS God' isn't in the Bible.

WHY is that? Here's what Jesus said - that you folks ignore.

WHO is Jesus' God???

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"


John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,


and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God
,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name


.....

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.


.....

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


OK.

You dont believe the Rapture is true

and you dont believe Jesus is God.


What do you believe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77476032


What do you believe?
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I like to relieve myself in the frozen food section at the grocery store and buy frozen corn dogs for later..I will also rule you for a 1000 years soon and you will bow down to me...
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Rapture is like the rest of the catholic church message which is based on fear.

It teaches you that your God is judgmental and will punish you if you don't do his commandments.

That God will not only punish you, it will abandon you in the end time and only save it's favorites.

That's utter bullshit fear mongering.

God love is eternal and doesn't not require a commitment.

All this is based on the doctrine of fear, that God is separate from you.

FALSE. FALSE. FALSE.

You can RED Karma me all you want, the truth is the truth. You've been lied all your life believing the religions of this world which are ALL based on fear.

Without FEAR the religions will have NO reason to exist.
 Quoting: Doc McBaffled


Jesus wants to rescue everyone! (2 Peter 3:9) But many don't want to go with Him. They choose this world over Him! The left behind choose to be left behind.

Jesus does not force anyone to go with Him. And He offers His free gift of salvation to everyone (John 3:16). But He did not make us robots. He made us with free will, so many end up rejecting His gift and throwing it in the trash! Many chose to stay behind in this world instead of following Jesus to heaven!

Love requires free will for love cannot be forced. If forced, it is not love. So God does not force His love on anyone. Those who reject it and trash His free gift of salvation, they freely choose to remain behind in this world!

God is destroying this world to create a new one, because this world is corrupted by sin. He openly invites everyone to go with Him to the new world, but many don't want to go with Him, they want to stay behind and get destroyed with this world! If they want to stay behind, then so be it!

There is no fear in chosing to go with God instead of chosing the world. It is out of LOVE for God that one choses God over the world. But many chose the world instead because they love the world, not God.

"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love." - 1 John 4:18

No one is forcing anyone to be left behind and destroyed along with this world. Those left behind CHOOSE to be left behind!

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Remember what they did to Jesus when He came the first time and asked people to follow Him. Some followed. But the world murdered Him and many of His followers.

The world since then has been asked to follow Jesus over and over again for two thousand years! So many times, they choose to murder His messengers instead!

Those not raptured are those who DON'T WANT TO BE RAPTURED. They don't want to live with Jesus. They want to kill Him!

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Even before Jesus came down, God sent so many messengers like Noah, Elijah, John the Baptist, to preach about the coming Christ, asking people to turn from their sins, to let go of the world, follow the coming Christ, that is to follow God, but they were mocked and sometimes even murdered.

People chose to die in their sins, choosing to die with the world. They love their sins so much they rather murder someone who came to save them than give up their sins.

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Like if your house is on fire and someone screams from outside saying "your house is on fire" but you refuse to leave because of your gold or porn stash that you won't leave behind.

Your roof is even caving in, but you don't leave, you try to bring your porn stash with you. You take too long and a beam falls and break your leg. Now you trapped.

The firefighters come and try to get you, but they pick you up and leave your porn stash. You are pissed and shoot or stab them, murdering them, and crawl back to get your porn stash. Your house burns down and you burn to death too, clinging to your porn stash.
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And you also say Jesus is not God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77476032

Jesus NEVER says the phrase 'I am God'.

The phrase 'Jesus IS God' isn't in the Bible.

WHY is that? Here's what Jesus said - that you folks ignore.

WHO is Jesus' God???

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"


John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,


and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God
,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name


.....

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.


.....

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

OK. You dont believe the Rapture is true
and you dont believe Jesus is God.

What do you believe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77476032

The 'rapture' happens 'AFTER the Tribulation'. It's the First Resurrection.

Jesus is the SON OF God. NO verse says that we are supposed to believe that 'Jesus is God' to have Salvation.

.....

Show us the verse(s) that says Salvation depends
on Believeing that 'Jesus is God'.

You can't. They don't exist.

Instead, all these verses say...

...'Believe in the SON OF God'.


1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

"Witness verses"

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ,
the Son of the living God.


17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:...


John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

1 Peter 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

1 John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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And you also say Jesus is not God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77476032

Jesus NEVER says the phrase 'I am God'.

The phrase 'Jesus IS God' isn't in the Bible.

WHY is that? Here's what Jesus said - that you folks ignore.

WHO is Jesus' God???

Jesus said the Father is "The only TRUE God"


John 17:3 And this is life eternal,

that they might know thee
the only true God,


and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


.....

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE. The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God,

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God
,

and the name of the city of my God,

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God: and I will write upon

him my new name


.....

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

are the temple of it.


.....

Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus

cried with a loud voice, saying,

Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

OK. You dont believe the Rapture is true
and you dont believe Jesus is God.

What do you believe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77476032

The 'rapture' happens 'AFTER the Tribulation'. It's the First Resurrection.

Jesus is the SON OF God. NO verse says that we are supposed to believe that 'Jesus is God' to have Salvation.

.....

Show us the verse(s) that says Salvation depends
on Believeing that 'Jesus is God'.

You can't. They don't exist.

Instead, all these verses say...

...'Believe in the SON OF God'.


1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

"Witness verses"

Matthew 16

16 And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ,
the Son of the living God.


17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:...


John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

1 Peter 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1 John 4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

1 John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


OK.

You dont believe the Rapture is true

and you dont believe Jesus is God.


What do you believe?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77476032





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