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Woman arrested after holding ‘abolish monarchy’ sign in Edinburgh

 
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Woman arrested after holding ‘abolish monarchy’ sign in Edinburgh
i didn't realize there was no free speech when it comes to the royals. silly me, i should have known better.

woman arrested ‘in connection with a breach of the peace’.

She held a sign saying ‘fuck imperialism, abolish monarchy’.
Officers appeared behind her and took her away, prompting the crowd to applaud.

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"but its all ceremonial"
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off with her head.
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wasnt the concept of freedom of speech being enshrined as a civil right first invented in the UK ?

nobody does double standards like the brits
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wasnt the concept of freedom of speech being enshrined as a civil right first invented in the UK ?

nobody does double standards like the brits
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Its inappropriate behaviour, bad form, not the done thing!

If she disagrees, there are plenty of airports she can use.
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wasnt the concept of freedom of speech being enshrined as a civil right first invented in the UK ?

nobody does double standards like the brits
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Its inappropriate behaviour, bad form, not the done thing!

If she disagrees, there are plenty of airports she can use.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


"inappropriate behavior" and "bad form" are illegal acts now ?
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Re: Woman arrested after holding ‘abolish monarchy’ sign in Edinburgh
I'll just leave this here.

From the European Convention on Human Rights

"The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it
duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and
are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national
security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing
the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for
maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary."
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wasnt the concept of freedom of speech being enshrined as a civil right first invented in the UK ?

nobody does double standards like the brits
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Its inappropriate behaviour, bad form, not the done thing!

If she disagrees, there are plenty of airports she can use.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


"inappropriate behavior" and "bad form" are illegal acts now ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Have a conversation during any "minute's silence" and you'll find out in short order, or is that usual in country?
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public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals
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and which of these pertains to the woman holding a sign ?
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Re: Woman arrested after holding ‘abolish monarchy’ sign in Edinburgh
wasnt the concept of freedom of speech being enshrined as a civil right first invented in the UK ?

nobody does double standards like the brits
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Its inappropriate behaviour, bad form, not the done thing!

If she disagrees, there are plenty of airports she can use.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


"inappropriate behavior" and "bad form" are illegal acts now ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Have a conversation during any "minute's silence" and you'll find out in short order, or is that usual in country?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ?
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Re: Woman arrested after holding ‘abolish monarchy’ sign in Edinburgh
Magna Carta (signed into law in England 1215) has been held aloft as an icon of democracy for centuries but some of the most fundamental liberties are not part of its provision. However, what it did do was to begin the process of assuring free speech, freedom of expression and pave the way for a free press.


Tyranny clearly reins in England today.


If I was King Charles I would tell the police to immediately release her as they ARE breaking the law.
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"but its all ceremonial"
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yep, even a ceremonial visit to jail
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Re: Woman arrested after holding ‘abolish monarchy’ sign in Edinburgh
wasnt the concept of freedom of speech being enshrined as a civil right first invented in the UK ?

nobody does double standards like the brits
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Its inappropriate behaviour, bad form, not the done thing!

If she disagrees, there are plenty of airports she can use.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


I'll just leave this here.

From the European Convention on Human Rights

"The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it
duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and
are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national
security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing
the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for
maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary."
 Quoting: lightchild_uk



i see this no different than protesting a person or organization when they visit your place city or town of residence. you are exercising your right to pretest against that which you feel unjust.

Last Edited by Jay3 on 09/12/2022 10:49 AM
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Its inappropriate behaviour, bad form, not the done thing!

If she disagrees, there are plenty of airports she can use.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


"inappropriate behavior" and "bad form" are illegal acts now ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Have a conversation during any "minute's silence" and you'll find out in short order, or is that usual in country?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Because in our country, green hair or not, a fast way to get your face smashed in is to stand on the street with a sign saying "FK" anything or anybody. Police can also arrest you for your own safety.
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Re: Woman arrested after holding ‘abolish monarchy’ sign in Edinburgh
wasnt the concept of freedom of speech being enshrined as a civil right first invented in the UK ?

nobody does double standards like the brits
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Its inappropriate behaviour, bad form, not the done thing!

If she disagrees, there are plenty of airports she can use.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


I'll just leave this here.

From the European Convention on Human Rights

"The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it
duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and
are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national
security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing
the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for
maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary."
 Quoting: lightchild_uk



i see this no different than protesting a person or organization when they visit your place of residence. you are exercising your right to pretest against that which you feel unjust.
 Quoting: Jay3


This, as long as she was in a "public space" and not breaking any laws it seems to be an act of tyranny to have arrested her for "Freedom of Speech/Expression".
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"inappropriate behavior" and "bad form" are illegal acts now ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Have a conversation during any "minute's silence" and you'll find out in short order, or is that usual in country?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Because in our country, green hair or not, a fast way to get your face smashed in is to stand on the street with a sign saying "FK" anything or anybody. Police can also arrest you for your own safety.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


so the woman was arrested exclusively for her own protection then ? ...


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"inappropriate behavior" and "bad form" are illegal acts now ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Have a conversation during any "minute's silence" and you'll find out in short order, or is that usual in country?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Because in our country, green hair or not, a fast way to get your face smashed in is to stand on the street with a sign saying "FK" anything or anybody. Police can also arrest you for your own safety.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


and do you really believe that is the reason she was arrested? come on?

let me ask you, are you a big fan of the monarcy? you think an unelected family should rule over you? just curious.
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Re: Woman arrested after holding ‘abolish monarchy’ sign in Edinburgh
I'll just leave this here.

From the European Convention on Human Rights

"The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it
duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and
are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national
security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing
the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for
maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary."
 Quoting: lightchild_uk


You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between.
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Have a conversation during any "minute's silence" and you'll find out in short order, or is that usual in country?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Because in our country, green hair or not, a fast way to get your face smashed in is to stand on the street with a sign saying "FK" anything or anybody. Police can also arrest you for your own safety.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


so the woman was arrested exclusively for her own protection then ? ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


That would be a wise descision, things are different here to the USA where you can legally swear in each others face. Its the language that was on the sign, there are kids around and nobody cares about the freak's social media likes.
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Re: Woman arrested after holding ‘abolish monarchy’ sign in Edinburgh
I'll just leave this here.

From the European Convention on Human Rights

"The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it
duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and
are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national
security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing
the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for
maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary."
 Quoting: lightchild_uk


You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81597136


clappa
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in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Because in our country, green hair or not, a fast way to get your face smashed in is to stand on the street with a sign saying "FK" anything or anybody. Police can also arrest you for your own safety.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


so the woman was arrested exclusively for her own protection then ? ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


That would be a wise descision, things are different here to the USA where you can legally swear in each others face. Its the language that was on the sign, there are kids around and nobody cares about the freak's social media likes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


oh i do say, you are a good little slave. cheerio and on your way now.
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in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


Because in our country, green hair or not, a fast way to get your face smashed in is to stand on the street with a sign saying "FK" anything or anybody. Police can also arrest you for your own safety.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


so the woman was arrested exclusively for her own protection then ? ...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854


That would be a wise descision, things are different here to the USA where you can legally swear in each others face. Its the language that was on the sign, there are kids around and nobody cares about the freak's social media likes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


despite whether it was wise or not , that was the rationale under which the police arrested this woman for holding a sign in public ?
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I'll just leave this here.

From the European Convention on Human Rights

"The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it
duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and
are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national
security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing
the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for
maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary."
 Quoting: lightchild_uk


You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81597136


There are laws regarding this.

Causing a public disturbance/threatening behaviour/obstruction.

Its not the protest, its THE LANGUAGE ON THE SIGN.
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next time she should write "sod imperialism , abolish the monarchy" so as to not offend the locals extreme sensitivity to scatological language .

might even save her a return trip to the clink ....well maybe not .
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Re: Woman arrested after holding ‘abolish monarchy’ sign in Edinburgh
fuck that green haired freak and fuck the babyraping royals
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Re: Woman arrested after holding ‘abolish monarchy’ sign in Edinburgh
I'll just leave this here.

From the European Convention on Human Rights

"The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it
duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and
are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national
security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing
the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for
maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary."
 Quoting: lightchild_uk


You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81597136


There are laws regarding this.

Causing a public disturbance/threatening behaviour/obstruction.

Its not the protest, its THE LANGUAGE ON THE SIGN.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


and i would be willing to bet, the only language in question was the other side of the sign, the one that read "abolish the monarchy"

Last Edited by Jay3 on 09/12/2022 10:55 AM
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I'll just leave this here.

From the European Convention on Human Rights

"The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it
duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and
are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national
security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing
the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for
maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary."
 Quoting: lightchild_uk


You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81597136


There are laws regarding this.

Causing a public disturbance/threatening behaviour/obstruction.

Its not the protest, its THE LANGUAGE ON THE SIGN.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645


and i would be willing to bet, the only language in question was the other side of the sign, the one that read "abolish the monarchy"
 Quoting: Jay3


Nope, people are free to protest the monarchy as they like but when its threatening, people get upset, especially if its some green haired fat planet.
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Re: Woman arrested after holding ‘abolish monarchy’ sign in Edinburgh
I'll just leave this here.

From the European Convention on Human Rights

"The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it
duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and
are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national
security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing
the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for
maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary."
 Quoting: lightchild_uk


You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81597136


We don't have complete free speech, but we don't claim to either.

What would happen in the US if the police saw a young lady with a Fuck Trump sign at a Trump rally?
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That's where people come unstuck when visiting the UK. People will ask you to do something extremely politely and expect you to behave likewise, but if you take the p1ss, its game on!

These people are protesting, they are allowed to, well as long as they don't block the traffic.

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I'll just leave this here.

From the European Convention on Human Rights

"The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it
duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and
are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national
security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing
the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for
maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary."
 Quoting: lightchild_uk


You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81597136


We don't have complete free speech, but we don't claim to either.

What would happen in the US if the police saw a young lady with a Fuck Trump sign at a Trump rally?
 Quoting: lightchild_uk


Nothing, so long as she wasn't assaulting anyone, or blocking a public way.
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Re: Woman arrested after holding ‘abolish monarchy’ sign in Edinburgh
She was arrested for a public order offence not anything to do with the sign.

Media always sensationalise headlines.





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