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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80804854 United States 09/12/2022 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wasnt the concept of freedom of speech being enshrined as a civil right first invented in the UK ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854 nobody does double standards like the brits Its inappropriate behaviour, bad form, not the done thing! If she disagrees, there are plenty of airports she can use. "inappropriate behavior" and "bad form" are illegal acts now ? |
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Waiting for IT User ID: 79876398 United Kingdom 09/12/2022 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll just leave this here. From the European Convention on Human Rights "The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81849645 United Kingdom 09/12/2022 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wasnt the concept of freedom of speech being enshrined as a civil right first invented in the UK ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854 nobody does double standards like the brits Its inappropriate behaviour, bad form, not the done thing! If she disagrees, there are plenty of airports she can use. "inappropriate behavior" and "bad form" are illegal acts now ? Have a conversation during any "minute's silence" and you'll find out in short order, or is that usual in country? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80804854 United States 09/12/2022 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wasnt the concept of freedom of speech being enshrined as a civil right first invented in the UK ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854 nobody does double standards like the brits Its inappropriate behaviour, bad form, not the done thing! If she disagrees, there are plenty of airports she can use. "inappropriate behavior" and "bad form" are illegal acts now ? Have a conversation during any "minute's silence" and you'll find out in short order, or is that usual in country? in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76423993 09/12/2022 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tyranny clearly reins in England today. If I was King Charles I would tell the police to immediately release her as they ARE breaking the law. |
Jay3
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(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 82221240 Switzerland 09/12/2022 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wasnt the concept of freedom of speech being enshrined as a civil right first invented in the UK ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854 nobody does double standards like the brits Its inappropriate behaviour, bad form, not the done thing! If she disagrees, there are plenty of airports she can use. I'll just leave this here. Quoting: lightchild_uk From the European Convention on Human Rights "The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary." i see this no different than protesting a person or organization when they visit your Last Edited by Jay3 on 09/12/2022 10:49 AM . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81849645 United Kingdom 09/12/2022 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645 Its inappropriate behaviour, bad form, not the done thing! If she disagrees, there are plenty of airports she can use. "inappropriate behavior" and "bad form" are illegal acts now ? Have a conversation during any "minute's silence" and you'll find out in short order, or is that usual in country? in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ? Because in our country, green hair or not, a fast way to get your face smashed in is to stand on the street with a sign saying "FK" anything or anybody. Police can also arrest you for your own safety. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76423993 09/12/2022 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wasnt the concept of freedom of speech being enshrined as a civil right first invented in the UK ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854 nobody does double standards like the brits Its inappropriate behaviour, bad form, not the done thing! If she disagrees, there are plenty of airports she can use. I'll just leave this here. Quoting: lightchild_uk From the European Convention on Human Rights "The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary." i see this no different than protesting a person or organization when they visit your place of residence. you are exercising your right to pretest against that which you feel unjust. This, as long as she was in a "public space" and not breaking any laws it seems to be an act of tyranny to have arrested her for "Freedom of Speech/Expression". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80804854 United States 09/12/2022 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854 "inappropriate behavior" and "bad form" are illegal acts now ? Have a conversation during any "minute's silence" and you'll find out in short order, or is that usual in country? in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ? Because in our country, green hair or not, a fast way to get your face smashed in is to stand on the street with a sign saying "FK" anything or anybody. Police can also arrest you for your own safety. so the woman was arrested exclusively for her own protection then ? ... |
Jay3
(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 82221240 Switzerland 09/12/2022 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854 "inappropriate behavior" and "bad form" are illegal acts now ? Have a conversation during any "minute's silence" and you'll find out in short order, or is that usual in country? in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ? Because in our country, green hair or not, a fast way to get your face smashed in is to stand on the street with a sign saying "FK" anything or anybody. Police can also arrest you for your own safety. and do you really believe that is the reason she was arrested? come on? let me ask you, are you a big fan of the monarcy? you think an unelected family should rule over you? just curious. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81597136 09/12/2022 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll just leave this here. Quoting: lightchild_uk From the European Convention on Human Rights "The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary." You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81849645 United Kingdom 09/12/2022 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81849645 Have a conversation during any "minute's silence" and you'll find out in short order, or is that usual in country? in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ? Because in our country, green hair or not, a fast way to get your face smashed in is to stand on the street with a sign saying "FK" anything or anybody. Police can also arrest you for your own safety. so the woman was arrested exclusively for her own protection then ? ... That would be a wise descision, things are different here to the USA where you can legally swear in each others face. Its the language that was on the sign, there are kids around and nobody cares about the freak's social media likes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76423993 09/12/2022 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll just leave this here. Quoting: lightchild_uk From the European Convention on Human Rights "The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary." You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between. |
Jay3
(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 82221240 Switzerland 09/12/2022 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854 in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ? Because in our country, green hair or not, a fast way to get your face smashed in is to stand on the street with a sign saying "FK" anything or anybody. Police can also arrest you for your own safety. so the woman was arrested exclusively for her own protection then ? ... That would be a wise descision, things are different here to the USA where you can legally swear in each others face. Its the language that was on the sign, there are kids around and nobody cares about the freak's social media likes. oh i do say, you are a good little slave. cheerio and on your way now. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80804854 United States 09/12/2022 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80804854 in what way is a minutes silence equivalent to the situation in which this person was demonstrating in ? Because in our country, green hair or not, a fast way to get your face smashed in is to stand on the street with a sign saying "FK" anything or anybody. Police can also arrest you for your own safety. so the woman was arrested exclusively for her own protection then ? ... That would be a wise descision, things are different here to the USA where you can legally swear in each others face. Its the language that was on the sign, there are kids around and nobody cares about the freak's social media likes. despite whether it was wise or not , that was the rationale under which the police arrested this woman for holding a sign in public ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81849645 United Kingdom 09/12/2022 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll just leave this here. Quoting: lightchild_uk From the European Convention on Human Rights "The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary." You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between. There are laws regarding this. Causing a public disturbance/threatening behaviour/obstruction. Its not the protest, its THE LANGUAGE ON THE SIGN. |
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(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 82221240 Switzerland 09/12/2022 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll just leave this here. Quoting: lightchild_uk From the European Convention on Human Rights "The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary." You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between. There are laws regarding this. Causing a public disturbance/threatening behaviour/obstruction. Its not the protest, its THE LANGUAGE ON THE SIGN. and i would be willing to bet, the only language in question was the other side of the sign, the one that read "abolish the monarchy" Last Edited by Jay3 on 09/12/2022 10:55 AM . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81849645 United Kingdom 09/12/2022 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll just leave this here. Quoting: lightchild_uk From the European Convention on Human Rights "The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary." You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between. There are laws regarding this. Causing a public disturbance/threatening behaviour/obstruction. Its not the protest, its THE LANGUAGE ON THE SIGN. and i would be willing to bet, the only language in question was the other side of the sign, the one that read "abolish the monarchy" Nope, people are free to protest the monarchy as they like but when its threatening, people get upset, especially if its some green haired fat planet. |
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Waiting for IT User ID: 79876398 United Kingdom 09/12/2022 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll just leave this here. Quoting: lightchild_uk From the European Convention on Human Rights "The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary." You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between. We don't have complete free speech, but we don't claim to either. What would happen in the US if the police saw a young lady with a Fuck Trump sign at a Trump rally? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81849645 United Kingdom 09/12/2022 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's where people come unstuck when visiting the UK. People will ask you to do something extremely politely and expect you to behave likewise, but if you take the p1ss, its game on! These people are protesting, they are allowed to, well as long as they don't block the traffic. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79527685 United States 09/12/2022 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll just leave this here. Quoting: lightchild_uk From the European Convention on Human Rights "The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary." You either have free speech or you don’t, there’s no in between. We don't have complete free speech, but we don't claim to either. What would happen in the US if the police saw a young lady with a Fuck Trump sign at a Trump rally? Nothing, so long as she wasn't assaulting anyone, or blocking a public way. |
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