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The Travels of the Apostles - Bible Study Christian History

 
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And they which were scattered abroad because of the affliction that arose about Stephen, went throughout till they came unto Phonicia and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to no man, but unto the hbws only.

you're a liar and a deceiver, just like your father. I'll believe the word of GOD.
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KJV Acts 11:19 Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Hebews only.

What verse or passage states that this was a 'permament' decision?

NONE.


How did John end up on Patmos?

All the recorded traditionss of the Apostles travels are LIES?

You Pauline pooters are just plain ignorant.

'Paul only'? NOTHING Paul said was...

Thread: Paul's Epistles are not THUS SAITH THE LORD Bible verses

I don't agree with all that the OP of that states, but he DOES have a point.

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Paul taught the SAME things as the other Apostles.

Thread: Paul Taught Repentance - Gospel - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught the 10 Commandments - Gospel - Bible Study

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study
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there were some gentiles that heard the message of the gospel of the kingdom and were saved under the priesthood, under law. Very few, And they were ALL within the bountries of old Jerusalem.
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GOD himself sent you 1 apostle and you go elsewhere? why is that?
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dumbass That was early on in Christ's ministry.

Jesus sent the Apostles to all the world.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

Mark 14:9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

What part of 'THE Gospel will be preached to ALL nations' is it that you refuse to accept???

The verses above PROVE such.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

NONE of the 12 ever went to a pastor, preacher or deacon. Paul gave us our current church structure.

But you already knew that my brother.
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The 12 were taught by Jesus Himself.

And Paul NEVER went to a 'pastor' either.

Israel didn't exist at the time of Jesus you dumbass.

You Pauline posers have NO PROOF that the Apostles never left Jerusalem - and scripture proves you WRONG.
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Council of Jerusalem was in Acts 15.

ALL these travels happened BEFORE that.

The Apostles taught for 20 YEARS before Paul went on his FIRST journey around 51 AD.

Phillip, Peter and John all went to Samaria.

Acts 8:5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.

Acts 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:

Phillip baptized the Ethiopian in Gaza.

Acts 8:26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.

Acts 10 Peter traveled to Caesarea to baptise Cornelius' household.

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ONE Gospel - to ALL the nations.

Thread: One Gospel - Or Multiple Gospels - KJV Bible Study

Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study
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Paul's church in Antioch is were his followers were first called Christians. How come Peters followers weren't called Christians, the temple in Jerusalem had been there far longer. Paul ESTABLISHED a totally different church structure, without priest, there was no need, the body of Christ is indwelt with the holy Spirit. we don't need a priest.
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...The land spoke like a temple
The river walked pompously
The valleys bent to their knees
The sign of the cross was in the branches

I listened to a gospel of wind
There was holiness on the ground
Here is where my first love lived
I haven’t come this way in a long time

I saw a world like a fairy tale
Long ago, long ago in the morning
That woke the magic wand
That a child has in his hand

She rose again in her shroud,
With light on her cheek
And she went brightly along with me
On a pilgrimage of my soul

Here is where my first love lived
I haven’t come this way in a long time

There is a vision there
I know her well
Boiling in the womb of my imagination
A bright flame without form like the wind
Begging for a fitting body...
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lets see who Peter is talking to at Pentacoast

"Ye men of Israel, hear these words, JESUS of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you with great works, and wonders, and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know"

Did some gentiles hear the message and believe? Yes
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Pauline protagonists try to teach that the Apostles never went forth into the world to preach the Gospel as Jesus had said - and even claim that the Apostles never even left Jerusalem.

The Bible itself proves this to be a false teaching - as do Christian historical traditions.

Would the Apostles disobey Jesus command? Heavens NO!

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Phillip, Peter and John all went to Samaria.

Acts 8:5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.

Acts 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:

...

Phillip baptized the Ethiopian in Gaza.

Acts 8:26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.


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Acts 10 Peter traveled to Caesarea to baptise Cornelius' household.

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Peter's first Epistle was to 'strangers' in Asia Minor.

1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia.


Was Peter writing from Babylon? It would seem so.

1 Peter5

12 By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand.

13 The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


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Romans 11:13

"For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office"


Paul is your Apostle.
Period.

Love him, hate him, misunderstand him ... Paul is STILL your Apostle.



The 12 never left Israel. Samaria, the Galilee, Gaza, etc are all IN ISRAEL.


ONLY Paul took the Gospel of the Grace of God to the gentiles.
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You Pauline pooters are just plain ignorant.

'Paul only'? NOTHING Paul said was... scripture
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Now you (a cultist) say that Paul's letters are not scripture?

What kind of devil are you???


You will be judged according to Paul's Gospel:

"In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel."

"Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began"

"Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel"
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Please cite Chapter and Verse to support this fake history of the spread of the Gospel.


Only Paul is actually in Rome and under arrest for the Gospel, where he is ultimately martyred.

None of the other Apostles even left Israel to go to the gentiles.



Peter and Paul

Both martyred in Rome about 66 AD, during the persecution under Emperor Nero. Paul was beheaded. Peter was crucified, upside down at his request, since he did not feel he was worthy to die in the same manner as his Lord.
Andrew

went to the "land of the man-eaters," in what is now the Soviet Union. Christians there claim him as the first to bring the gospel to their land. He also preached in Asia Minor, modern-day Turkey, and in Greece, where he is said to have been crucified.
Thomas

was probably most active in the area east of Syria. Tradition has him preaching as far east as India, where the ancient Marthoma Christians revere him as their founder. They claim that he died there when pierced through with the spears of four soldiers.
Philip

possibly had a powerful ministry in Carthage in North Africa and then in Asia Minor, where he converted the wife of a Roman proconsul. In retaliation the proconsul had Philip arrested and cruelly put to death.
Matthew

the tax collector and writer of a Gospel ministered in Persia and Ethiopia. Some of the oldest reports say he was not martyred, while others say he was stabbed to death in Ethiopia.
Bartholomew

had widespread missionary travels attributed to him by tradition: to India with Thomas, back to Armenia, and also to Ethiopia and Southern Arabia. There are various accounts of how he met his death as a martyr for the gospel.
James

the son of Alpheus is one of at least three James referred to in the New Testament. There is some confusion as to which is which, but this James is reckoned to have ministered in Syria. The J***sh historian Josephus reported that he was stoned and then clubbed to death.
Simon the Zealot

so the story goes, ministered in Persia and was killed after refusing to sacrifice to the sun god.
Matthias

The apostle chosen to replace Judas. Tradition sends him to Syria with Andrew and to death by burning.
John

The only one of the apostles generally thought to have died a natural death from old age. He was the leader of the church in the Ephesus area and is said to have taken care of Mary the mother of Jesus in his home. During Domitian's persecution in the middle '90s, he was exiled to the island of Patmos. There he is credited with writing the last book of the New Testament--the Revelation. An early Latin tradition has him escaping unhurt after being cast into boiling oil at Rome.
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Paul taught the SAME things as the other Apostles.
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Impossible.

Then why did Peter not understand it?

2 Peter 3:16

"As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."


The 12 Apostles sent men teaching legalism, which instigated the Jerusalem Council:

"And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be cir___cised after the manner of M_s_s, ye cannot be saved."

"But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharis__s which believed, saying, That it was needful to cir___cise them, and to command them to keep the law of M_s_s."

"Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain men which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be cir___cised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment"


Paul DID NOT preach the same things as the 12:

"When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question."

"But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved"


You see?

The 12 taught legalism according to the Law.

Paul taught Grace.
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You Pauline pooters are just plain ignorant.

'Paul only'? NOTHING Paul said was...

Thread: Paul's Epistles are not THUS SAITH THE LORD Bible verses
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD




Now the devil says that Paul's letters are not scripture.

Oh really?


Peter disagrees with you:

2 Peter 3:16

"As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."


Peter says that the unlearned and unstable would twist Paul's scriptures, just as they do the other scriptures.

Therefore, both Paul's Letters and the Old Testament are SCRIPTURE.


Admit it, you Paul-hating devil.

You want Paul removed from the Bible.

You asshat.
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Paul taught the SAME things as the other Apostles.
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Impossible.

Then why did Peter not understand it?

2 Peter 3:16

"As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."


The 12 Apostles sent men teaching legalism, which instigated the Jerusalem Council:

"And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be cir___cised after the manner of M_s_s, ye cannot be saved."

"But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharis__s which believed, saying, That it was needful to cir___cise them, and to command them to keep the law of M_s_s."

"Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain men which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be cir___cised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment"


Paul DID NOT preach the same things as the 12:

"When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question."

"But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved"


You see?

The 12 taught legalism according to the Law.

Paul taught Grace.
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PREACH it my body of Christ brother... Absolutely and Absolutely
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read it... then re-read it.

PAUL was given the dispensation of grace, which was NOT know to anyone before him, including the 12. You would put your word before GODS. You truly are evil.


"If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God, which is given me to youward,

That is, that God by revelation hath showed this mystery unto me (as I wrote above in few words,

Whereby when ye read, ye may know mine understanding in the mystery of Christ)

Which in other ages was not opened unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy Apostles and Prophets by the Spirit."
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so, according to you, the 12 apostles preached Christ crucified 3 years BEFORE it happened.

First you said the priesthood went to the gentiles BEFORE the Jerusalem council, ...this was before the Jerusalem council.
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3 years? ALL the early Christian writers said Jesus' ministry was just over a year. Look at the Passovers and do the math.

Thread: John 6:4 Passover - Early Church Leaders Stated That Jesus Ministry Was About a Year - Bible History - Bible Study

Jesus sent the Apostles out only ONCE on their own.

Matthew 10, Mark 6 and Luke 9 cover this.

The Apostles taught for 20 years BEFORE Paul wnet out on his first journey North.

Jesus told the Apostles ahead of time He would be crucified. They railed at the idea.
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PAUL was given the dispensation of grace, which was NOT know to anyone before him, including the 12. You would put your word before GODS. You truly are evil.
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Grace existed LONG before Paul preached it.

Thread: Grace - Biblical Context and Usage - A Deeper Look - Bible Study

Paul taught the SAME things as the Apostles.

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study
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Paul taught the SAME things as the other Apostles.
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Impossible.
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NOPE. LOOK at the evidence.

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study
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You Pauline pooters are just plain ignorant.

'Paul only'? NOTHING Paul said was... scripture
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Now you (a cultist) say that Paul's letters are not scripture?
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Pauline cultists deny the scriptural evidence.

ONE Gospel - to ALL the nations.

Thread: One Gospel - Or Multiple Gospels - KJV Bible Study

Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study
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PAUL was given the dispensation of grace, which was NOT know to anyone before him, including the 12. You would put your word before GODS. You truly are evil.
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Grace existed LONG before Paul preached it.

Thread: Grace - Biblical Context and Usage - A Deeper Look - Bible Study

Paul taught the SAME things as the Apostles.

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study
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Then why is it called a 'mystery'?

"And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel"

"Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints"

"To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory"


The Gospel of the Grace of God was revealed to ONLY Paul.

The 12 knew nothing of the Grace Gospel.
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Romans 11:13

"For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office"
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Scriptural FACTS.

1. Barnabas took Paul to Jerusalem specifically to see if he was on the SAME PAGE as Peter and the rest of the Apostles.

2. Jesus tells the Apostles that "THE Gospel" is to be preached to ALL the world. NOT "the GOSPELS" (plural - more than one). AND Jesus TOLD them to go to "all the world" -(Matthew 28:19). They taught to some of the same Gentiles as Paul did.

A...Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

B...Mark 14:9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

C...Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

D...Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

E...Luke 9:6 And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where.

F...Revelation it's referred to as "the everlasting Gospel".
ONE Gospel - not plural gospels.

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

G...Jesus main mission was to Israel, but yet He didn't refuse Gentiles. SAME Gospel to the Gentiles as to the Hebrews.

...the Centurian
...the Caananite woman / "bread crumbs from the table"
...the Samaritans
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The Gospel of the Grace of God was revealed to ONLY Paul.

The 12 knew nothing of the Grace Gospel.

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Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

Many folks claim that Paul had a different Gospel then the other Apostles.

Some folks even claim there's 4 or 6 different Gospels.

According to that "method" - there's about 20 different Gospels.

I'm sticking with ONE Gospel - many different names.
All the below info is from the KJV.

...

The simple phrase "the gospel" - appears 54 times in 51 verses - that's over half of all the uses of the word.

-Paul uses the simple phrase 37 times in Romans through Philemon.



"gospel of the kingdom" occurs 4 times in 4 verses in the KJV.

"gospel of God" occurs 7 times in 7 verses in the KJV.

"gospel of Christ" occurs 11 times in 11 verses in the KJV.

10 other "gospel of"

- gospel of Jesus Christ
- gospel of the grace of God
- gospel of his Son
- gospel of peace - 2 times
- gospel of the uncircumcision
- gospel of the circumcision
- gospel of your salvation
- gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ
- gospel of the blessed God

18 various "_____ gospel" (words other than 'the")

- this gospel - 3 times
- my gospel - 3 times
- Christ's gospel
- our gospel - 3 times
- glorious gospel - 2 times
- another gospel - 2 times
- other gospel - 2 times
- that gospel
- everlasting gospel

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so, according to you, the 12 apostles preached Christ crucified 3 years BEFORE it happened.

First you said the priesthood went to the gentiles BEFORE the Jerusalem council, ...this was before the Jerusalem council.
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3 years? ALL the early Christian writers said Jesus' ministry was just over a year. Look at the Passovers and do the math.

Thread: John 6:4 Passover - Early Church Leaders Stated That Jesus Ministry Was About a Year - Bible History - Bible Study

Jesus sent the Apostles out only ONCE on their own.

Matthew 10, Mark 6 and Luke 9 cover this.

The Apostles taught for 20 years BEFORE Paul wnet out on his first journey North.

Jesus told the Apostles ahead of time He would be crucified. They railed at the idea.
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not according to Luke ... Cultist, why do lie

"And when they have scourged him, they will put him to death: but the third day he shall rise again.

But they understood none of these things, and this saying was hid from them, neither perceived they the things, which were spoken.
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3. Paul was ALSO SENT to EVERYONE.

Acts 9 (Jesus talking to Ananias)

15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy
way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to
bear my name before
the Gentiles,
and kings,
and the children of Israel:


16 For I will shew him how great things
he must suffer for my name's sake.


...

Acts 22:14 And he said, The God of our fathers
hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest
know his will, and see that Just One, and
shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all
men
of what thou hast seen and heard.



4. Paul's travels, as documented in the (KJV) Book of Acts, show us that EVERYWHERE Paul went - he went to the synagogues FIRST.
This also proves that Paul had the same Gospel as the other Apostles, who were to preach "to the world".

Damascus Acts 9:20
Salamis Acts 13:5
Antioch Acts 13:14
Iconium Acts 14:1
Thessalonica Acts 17:1
Berea Acts 17:10
Athens Acts 17:16
Corinth Acts 18:4
Ephesus Acts 18:19
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This also proves that Paul had the same Gospel as the other Apostles, who were to preach "to the world".
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Horseshit.


The 12 preached this gospel:

"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand."


Paul preached this gospel:

"But we preach Christ crucified"

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God."

"For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures"



'The Kingdom of Heaven is at Hand' VS 'Christ Crucified'

NOT the same.
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This also proves that Paul had the same Gospel as the other Apostles, who were to preach "to the world".
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

The 12 preached this gospel:

"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand."

Paul preached this gospel:

"But we preach Christ crucified"

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God."

"For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures"

'The Kingdom of Heaven is at Hand' VS 'Christ Crucified'

NOT the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318

In Acts 1:8 Jesus sent the Apostles 'to ALL nations'.

This is after the resurrection - and they taught 'the crucified and resurrected Christ'.

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The verse you quoted was Jesus telling them 'the rules' for their FIRST 'mission' out to the towns. It was a pre-resurrection 'warm-up'.

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That's funny - here's what Paul was teaching.

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Acts 28 - Paul taught 'the kingdom of God'.

No doubt this was the Gospel.

Acts 28

30 And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him,

31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.


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Acts 19 - Ephesus

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

7 And all the men were about twelve.

8 And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and

persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.


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This also proves that Paul had the same Gospel as the other Apostles, who were to preach "to the world".
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

The 12 preached this gospel:

"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand."

Paul preached this gospel:

"But we preach Christ crucified"

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God."

"For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures"

'The Kingdom of Heaven is at Hand' VS 'Christ Crucified'

NOT the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318

In Acts 1:8 Jesus sent the Apostles 'to ALL nations'.

This is after the resurrection - and they taught 'the crucified and resurrected Christ'.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



Prove from scripture that the 12 went ANYWHERE in the world preaching Christ crucified. Didn't happen.

Peter, early in Acts, accuses the religious leaders of killing their Messiah. However, that was in ISRAEL.

The 12 never left Israel to preach Christ crucified, the Gospel of Grace. They may have finally come to understand it later in life, but they never went anywhere outside of Israel preaching the Gospel of Grace.

That distinction belongs to the Apostle Paul.
You owe Paul a GREAT debt of gratitude for you hearing the Gospel of the Grace of God.
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In Acts 1:8 Jesus sent the Apostles 'to ALL nations'.

This is after the resurrection - and they taught 'the crucified and resurrected Christ'.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Prove from scripture that the 12 went ANYWHERE in the world preaching Christ crucified. Didn't happen.

Peter, early in Acts, accuses the religious leaders of killing their Messiah. However, that was in ISRAEL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

Prove that Peter didn't write FROM Babylon.

You can't.

1 Peter 5

12 By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand.

13 The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.


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How did John get to Patmos IF he NEVER left Israel???


Revelation 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ,

was in the isle that is called Patmos,

for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.


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There are several ancient manuscripts that talk about the Apostles travels.

You'd have us believe that just because the bishops at the Council of Rome in 382 didn't CHOOSE any for the Bible, that they aren't authentic.

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The Apostles taught for 17+ years before Paul began his first missionary journey.

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Jesus said, “I have come to save (rescue ) none but the LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL”.
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'Lost sheep of Israel FIRST'.

Yet to even the Gentiles.

Luke 2

27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law,

28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and aid,

29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:

30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,

31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;

32 A light to lighten the Gentiles,

and the glory of thy people Israel.

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Did they preach 'your king has come' (the gospel of the kingdom) (only Israel has a King Messiah)

OR

Did they preach Christ crucified for our sins?(the gospel of the grace of God)
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Paul taughy 'Christ crucified'? And the others didn't?

Peter - Acts 2

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and

by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.


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ALL the Apostles taught 'Christ Resurrected'!


Where is there even a single verse that confirms that Jesus actually did it?

There isn't one - none exist.

Instead - 18 verses that show the Father raised Jesus from the dead.....

Acts 2

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and

by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.



Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.


Acts 3:15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.


Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.


Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.


Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.


Acts 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;


Romans 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

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Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

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Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

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Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 Corinthians 6:14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

1 Corinthians 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

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Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

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Ephesians 1

17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,


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Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

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1 Peter 1

2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,


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1 Peter 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
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In Acts 1:8 Jesus sent the Apostles 'to ALL nations'.

This is after the resurrection - and they taught 'the crucified and resurrected Christ'.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Prove from scripture that the 12 went ANYWHERE in the world preaching Christ crucified. Didn't happen.

Peter, early in Acts, accuses the religious leaders of killing their Messiah. However, that was in ISRAEL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

Prove that Peter didn't write FROM Babylon.

You can't.
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How did John get to Patmos IF he NEVER left Israel???
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



It's your fascination that Peter wrote from Babylon.
You prove that he was there .. you can't.

One must prove guilt, NOT innocence.
You've got it backwards.


John was exiled to Patmos, he was not there preaching the Gospel of the Grace of God.


You are still found a liar and a cultist.
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In Acts 1:8 Jesus sent the Apostles 'to ALL nations'.

This is after the resurrection - and they taught 'the crucified and resurrected Christ'.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Prove from scripture that the 12 went ANYWHERE in the world preaching Christ crucified. Didn't happen.

Peter, early in Acts, accuses the religious leaders of killing their Messiah. However, that was in ISRAEL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

Prove that Peter didn't write FROM Babylon.

You can't.
....

How did John get to Patmos IF he NEVER left Israel???
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

It's your fascination that Peter wrote from Babylon.
You prove that he was there .. you can't.

One must prove guilt, NOT innocence.
You've got it backwards.

John was exiled to Patmos, he was not there preaching the Gospel of the Grace of God.

You are still found a liar and a cultist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

John lived 30+ years LONGER than Paul or even Peter.

You Pauline pushers would have us believe that he didn't travel to the various churches during all those years.

Hogwash.

And your declarations about me mean nothing.

In the end, Jesus judges me using the Father's rules.

Not your 'opinion' of me.
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