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Pauline protagonists try to teach that the Apostles never went forth into the world to preach the Gospel as Jesus had said - and even claim that the Apostles never even left Jerusalem.

The Bible itself proves this to be a false teaching - as do Christian historical traditions.

Would the Apostles disobey Jesus command? Heavens NO!

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Phillip, Peter and John all went to Samaria.

Acts 8:5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.

Acts 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:

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Phillip baptized the Ethiopian in Gaza.

Acts 8:26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.


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Acts 10 Peter traveled to Caesarea to baptise Cornelius' household.

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Peter's first Epistle was to 'strangers' in Asia Minor.

1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia.


Was Peter writing from Babylon? It would seem so.

1 Peter5

12 By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand.

13 The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.

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Christian 'traditions' tell us that....

1. James went to Spain.

2. Matthew goes to Ehiopia.

3. Thomas goes to India.

4. Phillip preaches in Turkey.

5. This page shows Andrew's travels - extensive.

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6. How did John end up on the island of Patmos? He certainly wasn't dragged out of Jerusalem. He ended up in Ephesus.

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"The earliest written tradition placing John in Ephesus comes from Irenaeus, Against Heresies, book 3, chapter 3, section 4. During an explanation of how the apostles passed on teachings to their chosen successors, Irenaeus says:

--- 'There are also those who heard from him [Polycarp] that John, the disciple of the Lord, going to bathe at Ephesus, and perceiving Cerinthus within, rushed out of the bath-house without bathing, exclaiming, “Let us fly, lest even the bath-house fall down, because Cerinthus, the enemy of the truth, is within.” '

Irenaeus lived and wrote in the late 2nd century, but as a young man he had met Polycarp and been taught by him. Polycarp, in turn, is said by Tertullian (Prescription against Heretics, chapter 32) to have been appointed Bishop of Smyrna by John."

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Several videos

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"Deadly Journeys of the Apostles : Messengers to the West"

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"Deadly Journeys of the Apostles: From the Holy Land to Africa"

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"Deadly Journeys of the Apostles : Travellers to the East"

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"Deadly Journeys Of The Apostles * s01e02 * Jerusalem to the North"

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"Journeys of the Apostles"

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"Where Did the Apostles Go?"

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"The Apostles Prophetic Journeys - II"

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Other videos....

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Jesus sent the Apostles to all the world.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

Mark 14:9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

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Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study

Thread: One Gospel - Or Multiple Gospels - KJV Bible Study
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Is this a thread just for you? A way to work out your beliefs? Nice to have a platform, yes?
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Oh, and you can’t say “the bible itself proves….” That is a ridiculous thing to say. I think you know that.
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Is this a thread just for you? A way to work out your beliefs? Nice to have a platform, yes?
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Nope. This Bible Study targets a specific doctrine taught by certain theologians.

I knew it was wrong when I heard it.

The scripture proves the doctrine wrong.

I just gathered the info and put it together.

...

Most folks version of Bible Study
is reading the verses - and the explanations
- that the church gives them. I don't
think that is what Paul meant.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God,
a workman that needeth not to be ashamed,
rightly dividing the word of truth.


2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given
by inspiration of God
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and is profitable for doctrine,
for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:

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Oh, and you can’t say “the bible itself proves….” That is a ridiculous thing to say. I think you know that.
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This topic is about the Apostles' travels.

Got something to add?
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Oh, and you can’t say “the bible itself proves….” That is a ridiculous thing to say. I think you know that.
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This topic is about the Apostles' travels.

Got something to add?
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My point, I think you took, is that you bring up a subject, using the bible as evidence.
I don’t know how far the apostles travelled, nor do you.
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Christian 'traditions' tell us that....

1. James went to Spain.

2. Matthew goes to Ehiopia.

3. Thomas goes to India.

4. Phillip preaches in Turkey.

5. This page shows Andrew's travels - extensive.

6. How did John end up on the island of Patmos? He certainly wasn't dragged out of Jerusalem. He ended up in Ephesus.
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Total and complete bullshit from our resident cultist and Jesus denier.

Samaria is not 'the uttermost parts of the earth'.
It is basically within Israel .. even the Lord traveled through there.

The 12 Apostles did not AND were prevented from preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom outside of Israel.

Only Israel heard the Gospel of the Kingdom and they rejected it.

Only the Apostle Paul preached the Gospel of the Grace of God to the gentile world.

'Tradition' placed the 12 Apostles in India and China and amongst the native americans ... BULLSHIT.
Tradition IS NOT PROOF.
There are enough 'traditional' pieces of the One Cross to build a battleship with.
If you love tradition so much, join the catholic cult.


I'm not sure why you keep grinding this false narrative. It must be to introduce your cultic legalism, like poison, into anyone stupid enough to listen to you.

The 12 Apostles stayed in Israel awaiting the soon return of Christ, they did not go to the uttermost parts of the earth preaching the Kingdom Gospel. That makes no sense.
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Christian 'traditions' tell us that....

1. James went to Spain.

2. Matthew goes to Ehiopia.

3. Thomas goes to India.

4. Phillip preaches in Turkey.

5. This page shows Andrew's travels - extensive.

6. How did John end up on the island of Patmos? He certainly wasn't dragged out of Jerusalem. He ended up in Ephesus.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



Total and complete bullshit from our resident cultist and Jesus denier.

Samaria is not 'the uttermost parts of the earth'.
It is basically within Israel .. even the Lord traveled through there.

The 12 Apostles did not AND were prevented from preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom outside of Israel.

Only Israel heard the Gospel of the Kingdom and they rejected it.

Only the Apostle Paul preached the Gospel of the Grace of God to the gentile world.

'Tradition' placed the 12 Apostles in India and China and amongst the native americans ... BULLSHIT.
Tradition IS NOT PROOF.
There are enough 'traditional' pieces of the One Cross to build a battleship with.
If you love tradition so much, join the catholic cult.


I'm not sure why you keep grinding this false narrative. It must be to introduce your cultic legalism, like poison, into anyone stupid enough to listen to you.

The 12 Apostles stayed in Israel awaiting the soon return of Christ, they did not go to the uttermost parts of the earth preaching the Kingdom Gospel. That makes no sense.
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"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not"
Matthew 10:5
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Is this a thread just for you? A way to work out your beliefs? Nice to have a platform, yes?
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It's a way for the cultist to spread his poison amongst the Brethren.

It's a way for this asshat to shipwreck the faith of many ...
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Christian 'traditions' tell us that....

1. James went to Spain.

2. Matthew goes to Ehiopia.

3. Thomas goes to India.

4. Phillip preaches in Turkey.

5. This page shows Andrew's travels - extensive.

6. How did John end up on the island of Patmos? He certainly wasn't dragged out of Jerusalem. He ended up in Ephesus.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

The 12 Apostles stayed in Israel awaiting the soon return of Christ, they did not go to the uttermost parts of the earth preaching the Kingdom Gospel. That makes no sense.
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Where's YOUR 'proof' they didn't GO anywhere.

You don't have ANY.

All you have is your Pauline conjectures and AZZumptions.

Scripture alone proves you wrong.

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"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not"
Matthew 10:5
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dumbass That was early on in Christ's ministry.

Jesus sent the Apostles to all the world.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

Mark 14:9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
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Was Peter writing from Babylon? It would seem so.

1 Peter5

12 By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand.

13 The church that is at Babylon,

elected together with you,

saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.


.....

Points to consider.

1. Peter says NOTHING about 'receiving news' FROM the church in Babylon.

2. Peter poiints out that there are at least a couple of people there that were part of the group in the 'upper room' on the day of Pentecost.

3. Daniel and others stayed behind in Babylon. It's entirely probable that there was an substantial Israelite presense there.
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Christian 'traditions' tell us that....

1. James went to Spain.

2. Matthew goes to Ehiopia.

3. Thomas goes to India.

4. Phillip preaches in Turkey.

5. This page shows Andrew's travels - extensive.

6. How did John end up on the island of Patmos? He certainly wasn't dragged out of Jerusalem. He ended up in Ephesus.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

The 12 Apostles stayed in Israel awaiting the soon return of Christ, they did not go to the uttermost parts of the earth preaching the Kingdom Gospel. That makes no sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318

Where's YOUR 'proof' they didn't GO anywhere.

You don't have ANY.

All you have is your Pauline conjectures and AZZumptions.

Scripture alone proves you wrong.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



The burden of proof is on you, and NOT from pseudepigrapha and highly questionable sources hundreds of years later ...

Do you also appeal to false gospels and gnostic heretical writings?? Do you cite them as sources?

We know you hate Paul and would have his gospel removed from the scriptures, which by the way do NOT support the 12 leaving Israel. Nowhere does the scripture say the 12 left Israel.

ONLY Paul taught the gospel to gentiles.
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And what did they preach?

Jesus Christ.

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Why argue about this?

Big dick holy sword fight?
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"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not"
Matthew 10:5
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318

dumbass That was early on in Christ's ministry.

Jesus sent the Apostles to all the world.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Liar.

The verse cited says He COMMANDED them.
That's a COMMANDMENT from the Lord Himself.

DO NOT GO .. He COMMANDED THEM.

Matthew 10 is not 'early' in His Ministry and so what?

It is a COMMANDMENT
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Why argue about this?

Big dick holy sword fight?
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Because the Gospel of the Kingdom, as preached by the 12, was to Israel ONLY.

The Gospel of the Grace of God, as taught by Paul, is to the whole world. (gentiles)

This is fundamental to salvation.
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And what did they preach?

Jesus Christ.
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And what about Jesus did they preach?

Good question!


Did they preach 'your king has come' (the gospel of the kingdom) (only Israel has a King Messiah)

OR

Did they preach Christ crucified for our sins?(the gospel of the grace of God)
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Pauline protagonists try to teach that the Apostles never went forth into the world to preach the Gospel as Jesus had said - and even claim that the Apostles never even left Jerusalem.

The Bible itself proves this to be a false teaching - as do Christian historical traditions.

Would the Apostles disobey Jesus command? Heavens NO!

...

Phillip, Peter and John all went to Samaria.

Acts 8:5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.

Acts 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:

...

Phillip baptized the Ethiopian in Gaza.

Acts 8:26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.


.....

Acts 10 Peter traveled to Caesarea to baptise Cornelius' household.

[link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)]

.....

Peter's first Epistle was to 'strangers' in Asia Minor.

1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia.


Was Peter writing from Babylon? It would seem so.

1 Peter5

12 By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand.

13 The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Spirit of anti christ. Better repent or face the Lambs wrath!
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Was Peter writing from Babylon? It would seem so.

1 Peter5

12 By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand.

13 The church that is at Babylon,

elected together with you,

saluteth you; and so doth Marcus my son.


.....

Points to consider.

1. Peter says NOTHING about 'receiving news' FROM the church in Babylon.

2. Peter poiints out that there are at least a couple of people there that were part of the group in the 'upper room' on the day of Pentecost.

3. Daniel and others stayed behind in Babylon. It's entirely probable that there was an substantial Israelite presense there.
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Peter was never in Babylon, nor was he ever in Rome.

He stayed in Israel with the other 11 Apostles awaiting Christ's soon return as King.
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"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not"
Matthew 10:5
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318

dumbass That was early on in Christ's ministry.

Jesus sent the Apostles to all the world.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Liar.

The verse cited says He COMMANDED them.
That's a COMMANDMENT from the Lord Himself.

DO NOT GO .. He COMMANDED THEM.

Matthew 10 is not 'early' in His Ministry and so what?

It is a COMMANDMENT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318


He had to go to Israel

and be rejected by Israel.

THEN they would go tell the rest of the world about HIM.

.

So you guys keep fighting about which of you is better

and don't agree on the simple obvious truths of the matter...
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Then He came to Capernaum. And when He was in the house He asked them, "What was it you disputed among yourselves on the road?"

But they kept silent, for on the road they had disputed among themselves who would be the greatest.

And He sat down, called the twelve, and said to them, "If anyone desires to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all."

Then He took a little child and set him in the midst of them. And when He had taken him in His arms, He said to them,

"Whoever receives one of these little children in My name receives Me; and whoever receives Me, receives not Me but Him who sent Me."



Mark 9:33-37
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Paul went far.

The others less so.

So what?

Fight each other.
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Are YOU telling the world about Jesus Christ?

What are you telling the world about Jesus Christ?

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"These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not"
Matthew 10:5
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318

dumbass That was early on in Christ's ministry.

Jesus sent the Apostles to all the world.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Liar.

The verse cited says He COMMANDED them.
That's a COMMANDMENT from the Lord Himself.

DO NOT GO .. He COMMANDED THEM.

Matthew 10 is not 'early' in His Ministry and so what?

It is a COMMANDMENT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318


He had to go to Israel

and be rejected by Israel.

THEN they would go tell the rest of the world about HIM.

.

So you guys keep fighting about which of you is better

and don't agree on the simple obvious truths of the matter...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84132021



The simple obvious truth of the matter is this:

ONLY in Paul's letters do we see the Gospel of the Grace of God presented. It is clearly delineated in 1 Corinthians 15:

"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures"

No other books of the New Testament contain this Gospel.
Find it.
You can't.


As a matter of fact, the 12 Apostles were still in Jerusalem at the 50ad Council which Paul returned to confront them about his Gospel which he was taught by the Lord Himself.

I don't like liars, especially when they wear sheep's clothing, but inside are ravenous wolves.
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Are YOU telling the world about Jesus Christ?

What are you telling the world about Jesus Christ?

.

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Yes, indeed!

This:

that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures





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