Timing belt slipped while I was on my way home tonight... Car might be screwed.

There are very few non-interference engines on the market these days. I'd just make sure it has a good track record and a timing chain(or gears). Rubber bands are not the best idea for long term reliability.

beg on gofuckme with your sob story

Most likely.

No way putting mild pressure or tension on a cover could drag on a timing belt.

That said, I don't trust cams to be run on belts.

It was just time for it to jump time.


Mild piston top dings from starter speed cranking may not be significant, but all the exhaust valves are likely hosed.

Last Edited by Lost Pottawatomi on 08/28/2022 03:03 AM

So you’re ‘Very’ good advice is to find a imaginary toyota for the $800 it would cost em to fix it himself? Hahahaha. Anyways you’re a waste of energy.

While you’re in there replace the water pump as well, they’re only rated for 70k like the timing belt.

There are 2 types of people in this world: those who can fix things and those that can’t.

Last fall I was tuning up a Snowblower when a guy and his 2 grown kids in their 20’s stopped to ask me what I was doing. To which I said ‘I’m tuning up my snowblower.’ Then he chimes up ‘Why are you doing it now? There’s no snow yet.’ As the last few words are coming out of his mouth he starts to develop a sly grin on his face. Barely giving him a glance I tell the guy ‘so it’s ready for when I need it’. I figured that would all and they’d be on their way....no.

This mid 50 some year old fellow wasn't content with that. He had to to dig deeper. To somehow ‘solve’ this ‘Problem’ he happened across. The father of 2 asked if I knew about a mower/blower shop across town. He then says ‘They fix em too and I hear the wait times not bad this time of year. You could have it back by December.’

At this point I stop what I’m doing with my tools and look him in the eyes. I tell him ‘My old man always said - why pay another grown man 100 bucks an hour to do something you can do yourself’. Mind you since they walked up the 25 year old daughter had been intently watching me work on the blower. The slightly younger son had been switching between me fixing it and his dad questioning me.

Dumbfounded, he go’s on to smugly say ‘They sell new ones too, that thing looks pretty old.’ I told em ‘they don’t make em like they use to, it’ll run. What do you teach your Kids? The daughters eyes had long since turned green and face smiling rather friendly. The son wasn’t so sure dad was always right anymore. And I didn’t hear whatever came out of his mouth next because it fired up on the first pull and he beat his feet.

I always like it when stuff breaks. That means I get to buy a new whatever. But I don't really like cars. They aren't as much fun as a new electronic gadget or other toy. A new car isn't that enjoyable when you're going someplace unpleasant, like work, or grocery shopping. It's okay if you're going on a vacation, you know, to break it in.

With so many people dying now, there should be some good deals on autos out there. Heck, there might be one on your block that you can just take for free if everyone in that house is dead already.

My exact feelings too.

Won't touch anything past about 2008 myself.

I do have a 2011 Cummins 6.7 but it was literally the last of the mohicans when it came to no emissions crap messing with its engine.

I made a 80k dollar mistake in 2018 when I bought a Chevy Duramax LTZ. Biggest P.O.S. I've ever owned. That truck really let me down with mechanical and warranty issues.

In regards to your Volvo, I respect those cars. I saw my friend smash into a tree at 65mph in an old Volvo and walk away from what should have been serious injury or death.

Just find a used or reman'd engine and then hire a mobile mechanic or install it yourself.

Sometimes its easier to just take the whole engine out then open it up.

Towing it to a buddies house

Junk

Post obamma cars suck, volvo is way junk. Master car fixer here. Probably related to previous repairs done by hack

Lol suuuuure

What you got?

who do you think you are, the hound?

I had an '06 V70R until an errant school bus, not paying attention ran me dead straight into a jersey barrier.
Those cars are among the most reliable on the planet so long as the routine maintenance schedules are followed (even loosely).
I've also loved my 96 V70 my 05 V70 T5. The seats are probably the most comfortable I've ever sat my ass in!

Have the motor rebuilt. Or swap in a junkyard motor

i had a 1971 volvo 140 about 15 years ago. that was a nice car, i like the older volvos.


seems like the issue with repair moving forward is parts availability. transportation is getting squeezed.

Best wishes.
Let us know what you find.

Update:

Started digging in yesterday and found the tensioner had failed in the timing. There's ball bearings that were falling out as we were moving things.

All fluids look perfect still.

Haven't taken the head off yet but wondering if we should use the cherry picker to get the whole engine out or take out just the head... It's a tough call but I guess pulling the whole engine might be wise.

I'm expecting at the very least 10 of 20 valves bent, maybe all.

In that case I might be better off replacing with a decent used head.

I'm just so exhausted and trying not to stress but I gotta have me car back.

Find yourself a mechanic and bum some rides from friends till you get it fixed.

Pull the whole thing, it's sooooo much easier to work on outside the car. You're going to end up doing it anyway.

GL!

Find top dead center on cylinder #1 and make sure that valve is closed. Replace the timing belt there and see if it fires up and runs.

Couldn't hurt anything or put you in any worse state ...

Don't let people talk you into pulling the motor or some dumb shit like that. Cost you major $$$$$$.

Find top dead center on #1 and turn the cam so that valve is closed. Replace the belt there. It should run.

You'll be out the cost of the belt + valve cover gasket.

Much better $$$$ wise ....

That's bad advice when there are bent valves. That'll cost a lot more money and time in the long run.

All that is left to remove the engine is removing the motor mounts and separating it from the transmission. My buddy has a cherry picker.

If a tensioner fails while driving, you've got bent valves. They won't fix themselves.

I've probably gotta get an already built head or have this one rebuilt.

We'll see which is more cost effective.

That's what happens when yah try to cut corners and don't look at you vehicle or get the mandated services that the Owners manual calls for. I pop my hood once a week and actually look at things and found potential problems which I fixed. Car runs great and I have over 325,000 mile on it.

It wasent the "slight pressure," the engine is just worn out. Better off to just buy a cheap car off craigslist than to try to repair a foreign car thats that old. Foreign cars are obviously more expensive to maintain/repair.

LOL .. to each his own.
I like saving $$$$ myself. (and time)

I've seen my old man do it twice and I've had to do it once myself on these belt driven cams.
Saw the old man change the timing belt on a Ford Escort without removing anything from the motor! Amazing.

Look, you've already got the valve cover open .. inspect the valves/rods for damage. If none, then attempt the quick fix.

Once the belt failed, the cam stopped moving .. so damage is unlikely to the valves/rods.

But, spend away friend .. if it makes you feel better.

I think when it had timing done last time it didn't have the tensioner replaced.

I take great care of my car.

I didn't own it at that time.

Yeah, no. An engine isn't worn out at 155,000 miles especially not a Volvo engine.

It just had a part fail, one of the ones you really don't want to fail lol

Some advice and supposed knowledge cracks me up, no offense.

When a car is running and the pistons spinning, they don't just stop automatically. They have to rotate a few more times, at least 3 to 4 rotations each in their shutdown phase.

That means with the timing being completely off there had to be valve to piston contact. Even if they're bent very slightly that will cause low compression.

I've dealt with that before and without fixing it that screwed that engine to hell.

The cost comes from the labor, which we've already done most of. If I can take that head in to a shop that saves them so much work already.

It is an interference engine.

Should be an easy fix.

Last Edited by TwentyTwenty on 09/04/2022 01:39 PM

I would've just pulled the head unless it has some funky engineering. I've done many transverse fwd engines.

Unless it broke pistons and rings, you're looking at a valve job or head R&R at the worst.

Maybe take the hood off, then just pull the head.