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Guys, youre not a loser if you decide to clock out of the wage slave life. The people working are actually the real losers.

 
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Lost my job paying $80-$100k (depending on OT) in January because I refused to take vaccine. Went along with weekly testing for like 6 months but then my employee changed the policy each week and eventually made us go on our time off and refused to pay for it even though it was a condition of employment. That is illegal, so I refused.

And now work on and off for an old friend doing handyman work and get paid more to start then I made hourly after 10+ years at my previous job. Fuck the rat race. If you ever wanted to escape, now is the time. Go full time side hustle, spend more time with family, etc. trust me, you’ll regret not doing so very soon. Something wicked this way comes…
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I've been a carpenter for over 20 years now. Always payed decent but never great. Last 12 months that has changed. I was just offered a 90k a year job as a lead carpenter for a commercial flooring company. 90k to to lay carpet tiles in a Midwest state where cost of living is super cheap. Never thought I'd see this day. There is a massive shortage of labor. Wether its because people like the op don't wanna work and checked out, or millions have died I don't know. I do know skilled trades are in full swing right now. If you don't have a job right now and want one contact your local union in whatever field you choose. They are hiring apprentices.
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It is an evolutionary psychological adaptation.

When someone is in perpetual state of struggling to get by, they stop planning for the far future. When the state of struggle is perpetual, then there is no 'abundant harvest' and therefore no real physical means to achieve any positive future you may have planned. Therefore expending the energy it takes to look forward or plan for the future is actually a detriment to your position in the present struggle.

It's normal to lose interest in work when there's no perceived way to "get ahead", and get that 'abundant harvest' that you need to create a different outcome for yourself.
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9-5?

Nowadays is more like 7 to 6 and you have half of the purchasing power.
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you don't have a choice, that's the whole point of everything.

no living creature has a choice. they either survive or die.

money is the only thing that makes us different than animals
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Death is the ultimate liberation
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I completely understand if you want to clock out of the wage slave life. Weve all been lied too. The game is rigged.This isnt the 50s, 60s, 70s anymore. Its a completely different climate and a normal 9-5 isnt the same.

You wont see any judgement from me at all. I know how hard it is out there. The stupid ass baby boomers ruined it for you. They wanna pay you x amount and you to work beyond that. Screw that BS!

Each generation passes, every 15 years, it gets worse and worse in terms of immorality. It's 2022, what does that mean? We have a bunch of immoral bosses and leaders. Its okay if you dont want to work under them, they probably stress you the hell out for no reason.

Youre not a loser in my eyes if you clock out of the wage slave life. The only ones who are losers are the ones who are participating in it. The ones who are calling you a loser are on some type of pharm meds, anti stress, anti anxiety, sleeping pills, anti depressants, double vaxxxed cause "i need this job," imagine some sickly mfer with heart problems and mental problems who is slaving in the 9-5 wage slave grind calling you a loser lmao
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I think the question is HOW EXACTLY can we clock out of the wage slave life?

I have done the best I can, I own my own property, and live within my means so that I can stay debt free. I have managed to get my finances to the point that I only have to wage slave at a part time job, so at least I have a little time leftover for myself - but I still have to work.

I can’t barter to pay my cell phone, internet and electricity - so I have to wage slave for that. Also I have my “rent”. Even though I worked my ass off and bought a piece of property, built the house myself and made all of the improvements that made my property value go up I have to pay yearly property taxes to my county, which in my opinion negates my legitimate ownership because if I can’t afford to pay my property taxes “rent” the county could seize my property that I worked so hard for - so because of these things I have to keep wage slaving, even if it’s only part time.

So the question is, how do you get yourself out of slavery and make some money without going on the government tit? Starting a business doesn’t seem like so great of an option either since it takes a lot of capital to start up and so often the government wants to get its slimy tentacles into anything that the average joe wants to do.
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Re: Guys, youre not a loser if you decide to clock out of the wage slave life. The people working are actually the real losers.
You will just become a leach on PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO WORK.

Dont worry about the System, we are bringing in millions of workers to replace you so you wont have to ever work ( and you wont be able to if you wanted to).

Your generation has been programmed to think in this manner in order to make room for your replacement.
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I need to find a way to make my money illegally. I'm done with inferior bosses and the clown corporate world.

Get rich or goto prison trying.
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Illegal money and legal money no difference.

Money is green.
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06/09/2023 08:06 AM
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I completely understand if you want to clock out of the wage slave life. Weve all been lied too. The game is rigged.This isnt the 50s, 60s, 70s anymore. Its a completely different climate and a normal 9-5 isnt the same.

You wont see any judgement from me at all. I know how hard it is out there. The stupid ass baby boomers ruined it for you. They wanna pay you x amount and you to work beyond that. Screw that BS!

Each generation passes, every 15 years, it gets worse and worse in terms of immorality. It's 2022, what does that mean? We have a bunch of immoral bosses and leaders. Its okay if you dont want to work under them, they probably stress you the hell out for no reason.

Youre not a loser in my eyes if you clock out of the wage slave life. The only ones who are losers are the ones who are participating in it. The ones who are calling you a loser are on some type of pharm meds, anti stress, anti anxiety, sleeping pills, anti depressants, double vaxxxed cause "i need this job," imagine some sickly mfer with heart problems and mental problems who is slaving in the 9-5 wage slave grind calling you a loser lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45552476




Oh I know someday
I’ll make you have to pay
But not with shit you get from banks
I’ll make you pay
I’m not gonna let you leave
No one will hear you scream
No one will believe a word you say

Do what your told
You get the pot of gold you
Rot until you mold
Until your fucking old yeah
Do what your told
You get the pot of gold yeah
Do what your told
Do do what your told yeah
Do what your told
You get the pot of gold yeah
Rot until you mold oh
Until your fucking old yeah
Do what your told
Do do what your told
Do what your told
Do do what your told yeah

Oh I know someday
I’ll make you have to pay
But not with shit you get from banks
I’ll make you pay
I’m not gonna let you leave
No one will hear you scream
No one will believe a word you say
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06/09/2023 08:08 AM
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Re: Guys, youre not a loser if you decide to clock out of the wage slave life. The people working are actually the real losers.
I completely understand if you want to clock out of the wage slave life. Weve all been lied too. The game is rigged.This isnt the 50s, 60s, 70s anymore. Its a completely different climate and a normal 9-5 isnt the same.

You wont see any judgement from me at all. I know how hard it is out there. The stupid ass baby boomers ruined it for you. They wanna pay you x amount and you to work beyond that. Screw that BS!

Each generation passes, every 15 years, it gets worse and worse in terms of immorality. It's 2022, what does that mean? We have a bunch of immoral bosses and leaders. Its okay if you dont want to work under them, they probably stress you the hell out for no reason.

Youre not a loser in my eyes if you clock out of the wage slave life. The only ones who are losers are the ones who are participating in it. The ones who are calling you a loser are on some type of pharm meds, anti stress, anti anxiety, sleeping pills, anti depressants, double vaxxxed cause "i need this job," imagine some sickly mfer with heart problems and mental problems who is slaving in the 9-5 wage slave grind calling you a loser lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45552476


I think the question is HOW EXACTLY can we clock out of the wage slave life?

I have done the best I can, I own my own property, and live within my means so that I can stay debt free. I have managed to get my finances to the point that I only have to wage slave at a part time job, so at least I have a little time leftover for myself - but I still have to work.

I can’t barter to pay my cell phone, internet and electricity - so I have to wage slave for that. Also I have my “rent”. Even though I worked my ass off and bought a piece of property, built the house myself and made all of the improvements that made my property value go up I have to pay yearly property taxes to my county, which in my opinion negates my legitimate ownership because if I can’t afford to pay my property taxes “rent” the county could seize my property that I worked so hard for - so because of these things I have to keep wage slaving, even if it’s only part time.

So the question is, how do you get yourself out of slavery and make some money without going on the government tit? Starting a business doesn’t seem like so great of an option either since it takes a lot of capital to start up and so often the government wants to get its slimy tentacles into anything that the average joe wants to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83585697

Start a business that improves others lives or brings a smile to them or something necessary.

Buy a trailer and mount a pump tank and get a sewage pump and advertise septic emptying service for $500 and do two or three jobs a month maybe 6 hours time and have rest of time free to pursue your own passions.

Everyone always have to eat and shit, that's job security.
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06/09/2023 08:09 AM
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The currency carrot on the stick has been rotting for (((109))) years.
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Exactly.
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06/09/2023 02:55 PM
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Re: Guys, youre not a loser if you decide to clock out of the wage slave life. The people working are actually the real losers.
A job is much more than a paycheck!

A job defines your purpose in life, other than eating, pooping, sleeping.

A job gives you a feeling of self worth, and accomplishment. A job helps you appreciate all the material things you have. The sweat of your face gives your possessions a much greater value than getting that junk for free.

Dirty, hard working hands always makes your food taste better!

The things you give to your children are always more meaningful to both of you, if you’ve worked to aquire them.

Free support from the government destroys all of this, while making you an indirect slave, a piece of property they can do with you as they please.

Ask any Russian alive that was alive during the Soviet era what they think about a job, and work.

I have a job, a purpose, and a reason for getting out of bed every day, it’s who I am, and I wouldn’t have it any other way!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79269823


Understand what you are saying but its also dangerous because you are defining yourself by work, more effort is more moral and better. That creates self righteous slaves. Construction guys used to be like that. Forget using modern tools and lifts, the old way using human effort is more better.

The lazy have created tools to leverage effort. Effort is for caveman.
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06/09/2023 02:58 PM
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but how do you afford internet to post on glp, food to eat, electricity to charge your phone, money to pay your phone, somewhere to live whether it be a house or a tent. how do you pay for that without working?
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but how do you afford internet to post on glp, food to eat, electricity to charge your phone, money to pay your phone, somewhere to live whether it be a house or a tent. how do you pay for that without working?
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every philosophy from the beginning of time from the hindus to the buddhists to jesus christ to obscure books like the oera linda talk about hard work and earning your way. how do you earn your way without working
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A job is much more than a paycheck!

A job defines your purpose in life, other than eating, pooping, sleeping.

A job gives you a feeling of self worth, and accomplishment. A job helps you appreciate all the material things you have. The sweat of your face gives your possessions a much greater value than getting that junk for free.

Dirty, hard working hands always makes your food taste better!

The things you give to your children are always more meaningful to both of you, if you’ve worked to aquire them.

Free support from the government destroys all of this, while making you an indirect slave, a piece of property they can do with you as they please.

Ask any Russian alive that was alive during the Soviet era what they think about a job, and work.

I have a job, a purpose, and a reason for getting out of bed every day, it’s who I am, and I wouldn’t have it any other way!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79269823

Sounds like a content slave, loving his slave life in a slave world even claiming his entire being, forget personality or anything like that, learning, hobbies, it is all about that slave position. I never have and never will understand this mindset, you are a living being not a chore, you have a brain use it.
Unholy war you will get, you can bet, the US is the great satan
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W-2 jobs at less than $20 an hour in California like Gigging now with inflation - upside down - you can't break even. There's not too many people, there are two many people with THIS ECONOMY! The issue from housing etc. and driving inflation is that demand outstrips supply. Tptb make it clear there's not going to be more housing. But that's normal non in-car-cerated folks.
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And your Government is letting Millions more in. How do you think that is going to work out?

It's not.
They are collapsing the system on purpose.
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Re: Guys, youre not a loser if you decide to clock out of the wage slave life. The people working are actually the real losers.
Find and develop a marketable skill.

Go to work for yourself, and keep it small.

Work for cash.

Happy, guilt free life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80778500


Yup - just what I did 40 yrs ago, never looked back.
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Meaning these kinds of work issues have been around forever.

Nothing new under the sun.

It’s always been about finding your own best life.
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you... have a choice... survive or die.
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Let the facts fall wherever, whenever, and however they may.

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I completely understand if you want to clock out of the wage slave life. Weve all been lied too. The game is rigged.This isnt the 50s, 60s, 70s anymore. Its a completely different climate and a normal 9-5 isnt the same.

You wont see any judgement from me at all. I know how hard it is out there. The stupid ass baby boomers ruined it for you. They wanna pay you x amount and you to work beyond that. Screw that BS!

Each generation passes, every 15 years, it gets worse and worse in terms of immorality. It's 2022, what does that mean? We have a bunch of immoral bosses and leaders. Its okay if you dont want to work under them, they probably stress you the hell out for no reason.

Youre not a loser in my eyes if you clock out of the wage slave life. The only ones who are losers are the ones who are participating in it. The ones who are calling you a loser are on some type of pharm meds, anti stress, anti anxiety, sleeping pills, anti depressants, double vaxxxed cause "i need this job," imagine some sickly mfer with heart problems and mental problems who is slaving in the 9-5 wage slave grind calling you a loser lmao
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You have no idea how this has affected me. Been searching for a job for over a year and nothing. I have money and getting by but 8 feel like a loser when I think that no one wants my value though I've done so for fortune 50 companies for the past 2.5 decades... I sit in bed wondering whats wrong with me so depressed...
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Probably something to do with how stupid you type things.
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Shut it down
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If you want to be an old person with nothing to their name listen to OP. Nothing sadder than an old person who has to skip meals to make SS stretch the month. I see it every day. Be careful what the internet wants to make cool and think for yourself. Everything in society is a trap, question everything and do things that are in your best interest. The reality is the world doesn't care if your cold and hungry and, in many ways, prefers it. Always have a backup plan.
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Be scared. Keep the on working. LOL





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