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Deplorable BrainGuy
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84024410 United States 08/18/2022 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the word has come down that there will be a strike but it will only last a day or 2 because congress will step in and do something about it. Quoting: SunshineRay Ok not a surprise about that but what I'm hearing is a lot of guys aren't coming back if their demands aren't met. They've lined up other job opportunities to take. 15 guys have already walked off up north, all on the same day, with no plans on returning. That particular yard usually has 30 trains or more go through it a day now it is so backed up they can't even move one. Been like that a week now. There was a meeting held to see if 120 yard masters and train masters would be able to handle the work load of moving the trains during the strike, not going to happen. Apparently the track guys and everyone is going on strike as well. There won't be anyone to inspect the track or throw the switches or fill the engines with gas etc. Be prepared. Even if the strike doesn't last a long time a bunch of guys might not be coming back to move those trains. This is more like little 6 year old nephew intel. Congress will step in? FFS |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83891849 United States 08/18/2022 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " That’s the government. You want to strike? Guess what so do most of if not all your union reps and leaders. We have to abide by the RLA. Wanna know why? If we don’t we go to jail. Not just union leaders or reps. But YOU YES YOU CAN TO. If congress forces us to work and you don’t.. you can be held in contempt and in violation of a congressional order. You can be sued personally by the railroad for lost income as can your union and reps and leaders." I believe we are governed by "Emergency Powers" Legislation. "You're in the Army NOW!" Benito Mussolini made the trains run on time ! ( ; ) So did Truman during Korean War ! "Duce (/ˈduːtʃeɪ/ DOO-chay, Italian: [ˈduːtʃe]) is an Italian title, derived from the Latin word dux 'leader', and a cognate of duke. National Fascist Party leader Benito Mussolini was identified by Fascists as Il Duce ('The Leader') of the movement since the birth of the Fasci Italiani di Combattimento in 1919." "After removing all political opposition through his secret police and outlawing labor strikes,[10] Mussolini and his followers consolidated power through a series of laws that transformed the nation into a one-party dictatorship." "Republicans are extremists." Right on SCHEDULE ! thanks for playing. Pass the vaseline .. . until... Hitler commited suicide after seeing Il Duce hanging dead by his heels, along with Il Duce's mistress ... The VIEW seemed to stimulate his depressed thinking skills! |
SunshineRay
(OP) Godlike User ID: 76717836 United States 08/18/2022 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The government already stepped in. The railroad and unions must meet and come to an agreement with an arbitration. If unable to reach agreement then Congress can step in and forge a contract. There can be no legal strike nor work stoppage. So false intel Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72662529 The union has declined the offer there's another 30 day cool off period and they've already been told they are going on strike in September. Faith is the soil where flowers grow and you need to nourish yours on a regular basis. Accepting that change is a natural condition and not a sign of your past mistakes helps you open up and let go of all those aspects of life that are beyond your control. |
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Quarterbreedgal
User ID: 84020420 United States 08/18/2022 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is how the cities starve in Atlas Shrugged. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79466068 ALL their food is shipped in by rail. A movie ? Game ? Quarterbreedgal...one quarter Cherokee, descended from the Mackenzie Highlanders in Scotland. Ill speak the truth no matter how much red I get. All that matters anyway is TRUTH and LOVE...oh and DOGS!! |
Quarterbreedgal
User ID: 84020420 United States 08/18/2022 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The government already stepped in. The railroad and unions must meet and come to an agreement with an arbitration. If unable to reach agreement then Congress can step in and forge a contract. There can be no legal strike nor work stoppage. So false intel Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72662529 Source ? Quarterbreedgal...one quarter Cherokee, descended from the Mackenzie Highlanders in Scotland. Ill speak the truth no matter how much red I get. All that matters anyway is TRUTH and LOVE...oh and DOGS!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83891849 United States 08/18/2022 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Benjamin Franklins adult son. "Capture and imprisonment, 1776–1778 William Franklin remained as governor of New Jersey, and secretly reported Patriot activities to London. He continued as governor until January 1776, when colonial militiamen placed him under house arrest, which lasted until the middle of June. After the Declaration of Independence, Franklin was formally taken into custody by order of the Provincial Congress of New Jersey, an entity which he refused to recognize, regarding it as an "illegal assembly."[19] He was incarcerated in Connecticut for two years, in Wallingford and Middletown. He surreptitiously engaged Americans in supporting the Loyalist cause. Discovered, he was held in solitary confinement at Litchfield, Connecticut for eight months. When finally released in a prisoner exchange in 1778, he moved to New York City, which was still occupied by the British.[20] [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] William the Son sailed away with the British Navy & Army . . . . There were Patriots with a short rope and a long pole, looking to visit with William about is activities during the Revolution. There seemed to be a disease among those that supported the King against the Patriots... NECK ROPE RASH. Most often FATAL. Up to 100,000 other former Colonial Americans . . . decided to leave and never return because of the NECK ROPE RASH ! [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
clemmens14
User ID: 83747764 United States 08/18/2022 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pulled from redd1t.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83401836 Rant Union rep here. Yes one of those guys you’re bitching about. Ima fuckin lay it out. All you stupid fucks blaming your union for this… guess what you’re a idiot. They brought a lot more to the table to fight for you. The carriers wanted you to suffer. Union said no we want a PEB so that maybe we can have a chance at bettering our union employees. PEB fucked us. Not the union. They sided mainly with the company. Again not the unions fault. I will tel you what I’m hearing from gcs and other lcs. They do not like this and are awaiting further negotiation with the carriers. Again the unions are fighting for you. We can have this shoved down our throat with congress. Or it could be better. Or it could def be worse. That isn’t up to the union. That’s the government. You want to strike? Guess what so do most of if not all your union reps and leaders. We have to abide by the RLA. Wanna know why? If we don’t we go to jail. Not just union leaders or reps. But YOU YES YOU CAN TO. If congress forces us to work and you don’t.. you can be held in contempt and in violation of a congressional order. You can be sued personally by the railroad for lost income as can your union and reps and leaders. Wildcat? Go for it. See where it gets you. Same as above but the moment they find out who started it they are fucked. Iirc a while back with high viz starting there were people on YouTube and fb calling for it. Guess ya all forgot how it got shut down hard and fast. Shit is the way it is not because your unions. It’s because of pieces of shit at the rr you work for not giving 2 fucks about you. /end rant I am not a democrat. I have also been a member of 2 unions. I am very much a pro-union guy. That being said, unions aren’t what they were 20 and 30 yrs ago. It’s not about the workers anymore. Both the company men AND the union reps are democrats and we live in a ridiculously hyper-sensitive political world. From my experience with several contract negations, a strike, and several periods of discontent amongst the unionized employees, the union reps always begin to sound like the company. Re-read that “rant” again. Pretend it’s a rant from the company reps instead of the union reps. It may seem like a small matter, but when COVID hit and union steelworkers were upset they company they worked for was making them wear mask and try to social distance on the job, the got everyone to comply when the union reps AND the company warned it’s a GOVERNMENT policy and there was nothing they could do. We HAD TO comply. My attitude….well then as my union rep, “you can tell the government to stick this shit in their ass too!!”. I ain’t doing it!” Before the end of 2020 I was let go, and wouldn’t you know it, my union couldn’t find a way to save my job. Maybe you don’t understand what it is I’m saying, but unions are not going to be around much longer. |
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Vision Thing
User ID: 83940078 United States 08/18/2022 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will definitely halt AMTRAK as well, if it happens. The freight lines own all the track that AMTRAK runs on. Quoting: Templar Knight The Amtrak trains are dispatched by the freight dispatchers. Also if there is any problem with an Amtrak train, freight guys come with a freight engine. I don't think they would run Amtrak trains if no one could come with an engine to move a stuck Amtrak train. Much less run a train over the line with no one to dispatch it! |
Craft
User ID: 81109247 United States 08/18/2022 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank God I'm not hoping freight trains anymore, It was a hobby sure would suck to be stuck in the middle of nowhere lol Craftdragon screw a coffee buy me a beer or a membership $chank3567 cheers! If this goes against any GLP rules I will gladly remove my personal signature. <3 8) twit @craft8431 |
Craft
User ID: 81109247 United States 08/18/2022 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will definitely halt AMTRAK as well, if it happens. The freight lines own all the track that AMTRAK runs on. Quoting: Templar Knight The Amtrak trains are dispatched by the freight dispatchers. Also if there is any problem with an Amtrak train, freight guys come with a freight engine. I don't think they would run Amtrak trains if no one could come with an engine to move a stuck Amtrak train. Much less run a train over the line with no one to dispatch it! Correct other trains will be stuck and in the way with no switch crews to throw the switch, Some are still manual and requires men Craftdragon screw a coffee buy me a beer or a membership $chank3567 cheers! If this goes against any GLP rules I will gladly remove my personal signature. <3 8) twit @craft8431 |
Vision Thing
User ID: 83940078 United States 08/18/2022 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One main thing was explained on a previous thread The freight trains right now are manned by a 2 man crew The engineer and the conductor. The conductor talks to the dispatcher and makes sure track conditions are clear going forward, and takes the orders to "go in the hole" or go on a siding to let another train by, etc. The conductor has full responsibility for the operation of the train, just like the captain of a ship. The engineer operates the locomotive and is in constant communication with the conductor. The freight companies really want to reduce the crew of the train to ONE MAN, the engineer. The engineers know this is not safe! And would also produce terrible working conditions. That is one main reason why a strike may be imminent. I am not sure the unions have the crew's back on this? I do not think the engineers will agree to a ONE MAN crew policy - I think they will walk, will leave their jobs. If I have any of that wrong, please correct me. |
Vision Thing
User ID: 83940078 United States 08/18/2022 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will definitely halt AMTRAK as well, if it happens. The freight lines own all the track that AMTRAK runs on. Quoting: Templar Knight The Amtrak trains are dispatched by the freight dispatchers. Also if there is any problem with an Amtrak train, freight guys come with a freight engine. I don't think they would run Amtrak trains if no one could come with an engine to move a stuck Amtrak train. Much less run a train over the line with no one to dispatch it! Correct other trains will be stuck and in the way with no switch crews to throw the switch, Some are still manual and requires men When there's ice on the switches the crew has to get off the train and clear the switches, can you imagine that with a one man crew? |
General Thragg
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Craft
User ID: 81109247 United States 08/18/2022 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would suck after 9/11 it got super tuff to travel for free more feds now then ever! I do miss it at times, my buddy is a engineer for CSX went to high school with him always gave us the manifest when we wanted to ride, Craftdragon screw a coffee buy me a beer or a membership $chank3567 cheers! If this goes against any GLP rules I will gladly remove my personal signature. <3 8) twit @craft8431 |
Bgpete34
User ID: 80989800 United States 08/18/2022 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The government already stepped in. The railroad and unions must meet and come to an agreement with an arbitration. If unable to reach agreement then Congress can step in and forge a contract. There can be no legal strike nor work stoppage. So false intel Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72662529 You are sort of correct, but the issue here is workers are just walking off as in ignoring the consequences of actions and their union guidance. Honestly I applaud them for doing so, if your valuable its pretty easy to get a job these days so why be held hostage or do something where you do not feel appreciated. Legality will never play into this because the government is well aware if they start enforcing the no walkout clause and jailing people it could snowball quickly. Bgpete34 |
wisconsin human
User ID: 84026887 United States 08/18/2022 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No worries Uncle Joe will have millions and millions of workers coming from the South. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30868727 Happening as we speak . ...... and "he's" moving them by ... wait for it ... AMTRACK!!! ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78052676 United States 08/18/2022 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The government already stepped in. The railroad and unions must meet and come to an agreement with an arbitration. If unable to reach agreement then Congress can step in and forge a contract. There can be no legal strike nor work stoppage. So false intel Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72662529 You are sort of correct, but the issue here is workers are just walking off as in ignoring the consequences of actions and their union guidance. Honestly I applaud them for doing so, if your valuable its pretty easy to get a job these days so why be held hostage or do something where you do not feel appreciated. Legality will never play into this because the government is well aware if they start enforcing the no walkout clause and jailing people it could snowball quickly. almost exactly the script of atlas shrugged.who was ayn rand?the rand corporation?they have tested all this on us for years.remember the bronx? |
wisconsin human
User ID: 84026887 United States 08/18/2022 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A bunch of overpaid babies. Quoting: Revisionist Living the gospel of Christ is an action not a thought. . ... WOW!!!! ... what a witness your words???? ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77353212 United States 08/18/2022 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whether it happens or not, it sure bespeaks the importance of railways and our way of life. I've seen food mentioned a coupla times upthread...but I have read that coal is the bigger issue. Trains move coal to power plants. Good thing Joe Biden has spent so much time on trains...I think he has ridden 30 million miles on them. Like him, I don't remember the exact story. I'm sure there is nothing to worry about with this situation...right? |
wisconsin human
User ID: 84026887 United States 08/18/2022 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a class one tire inflator working the east side. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84030494 I keep america rolling. I can inflate tires for trains as well.. Carry on ??????????????????????????????????????? . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
Dodger007
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wisconsin human
User ID: 84026887 United States 08/18/2022 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Warren Buffet owns BNSF, he donated to Biden to kill the pipeline so his trains can move oil, Biden will step in to keep Buffets train moving Quoting: javierruizleon . ... without SKILLED workers? ... unless "he" puts those that quit back to work under a gun? ... . ... just wondering ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
wisconsin human
User ID: 84026887 United States 08/18/2022 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep all of those able body men from foreign countries arriving just in time Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80128169 . ... speaking ENGLISH ... and skilled/trained to operate trains ... uh huh ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83936250 Canada 08/18/2022 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pulled from redd1t.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83401836 Rant Union rep here. Yes one of those guys you’re bitching about. Ima fuckin lay it out. All you stupid fucks blaming your union for this… guess what you’re a idiot. They brought a lot more to the table to fight for you. The carriers wanted you to suffer. Union said no we want a PEB so that maybe we can have a chance at bettering our union employees. PEB fucked us. Not the union. They sided mainly with the company. Again not the unions fault. I will tel you what I’m hearing from gcs and other lcs. They do not like this and are awaiting further negotiation with the carriers. Again the unions are fighting for you. We can have this shoved down our throat with congress. Or it could be better. Or it could def be worse. That isn’t up to the union. That’s the government. You want to strike? Guess what so do most of if not all your union reps and leaders. We have to abide by the RLA. Wanna know why? If we don’t we go to jail. Not just union leaders or reps. But YOU YES YOU CAN TO. If congress forces us to work and you don’t.. you can be held in contempt and in violation of a congressional order. You can be sued personally by the railroad for lost income as can your union and reps and leaders. Wildcat? Go for it. See where it gets you. Same as above but the moment they find out who started it they are fucked. Iirc a while back with high viz starting there were people on YouTube and fb calling for it. Guess ya all forgot how it got shut down hard and fast. Shit is the way it is not because your unions. It’s because of pieces of shit at the rr you work for not giving 2 fucks about you. /end rant Solution (just quit) |