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CHRISTIANS: WHY do people "LOVE JESUS" ? | |
| Skywave
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| Zovalex
User ID: 81837573 United States08/15/2022 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really, I have tried so desperately to fully 'feel' it. Quoting: Skywave "We are born again in Jesus" "Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour" I grew up in a strongly religious household. I've always been told not to be afraid. I've always been told to 'trust Jesus', to give myself to him. I've tried to pray, I've tried to get it. I've tried to feel what the others feel, but I simply can't. I cannot understand the whole concept - why I should care that he died for our sins? What the worth in this sacrifice? Why was it necessary, and why it's necessary to have a relationship with HIM specifically. When people explain it I can VAGUELY understand it, in a very general way. How does it feel to 'love Jesus' ? I've felt deep peace during religious congregations, prayer groups, the World Youth Days, etc. - but I couldn't connect it with a personal relationship with Jesus in my soul. I know the peace I felt was somehow an experience related to God. I do believe in God and that God is a personal god. But this whole Jesus thing I just can't wrap my head around. I'm not seeking to justify or bash anything I GENUINELY cannot understand this whole thing while I've really tried to. What do you think. The straight answer is that you’re among the Souled humans, and deep down you know that Religion is a LIE. You may be interested in reading this thread: [link to godlike.com (secure)] . “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |
| JustSomeGuy_42
User ID: 82858310 United States08/15/2022 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | everything? - Not really. (according to your storybook anyway.)  https://imgur.com/2L7icL8Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac . If the number 666 is considered evil. then technically, 25.8069758 is the root of all evil. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 82148787 Russia08/15/2022 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | everything? - Not really. (according to your storybook anyway.) :idied4u: [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] Why are you talking to me trashbag? |
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| Zovalex
User ID: 81837573 United States08/15/2022 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | …he’s talking to YOU because YOU’RE the low-IQ Religitard that posted your Mind-imprisoning religious claptrap. Now….. what was that you were saying about a “trash bag”?  . Last Edited by Zovalex on 08/15/2022 12:41 PM “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |
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| Mother Maggie
User ID: 84007494 United States08/15/2022 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really, I have tried so desperately to fully 'feel' it. Quoting: Skywave "We are born again in Jesus" "Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour" I grew up in a strongly religious household. I've always been told not to be afraid. I've always been told to 'trust Jesus', to give myself to him. I've tried to pray, I've tried to get it. I've tried to feel what the others feel, but I simply can't. I cannot understand the whole concept - why I should care that he died for our sins? What the worth in this sacrifice? Why was it necessary, and why it's necessary to have a relationship with HIM specifically. When people explain it I can VAGUELY understand it, in a very general way. How does it feel to 'love Jesus' ? I've felt deep peace during religious congregations, prayer groups, the World Youth Days, etc. - but I couldn't connect it with a personal relationship with Jesus in my soul. I know the peace I felt was somehow an experience related to God. I do believe in God and that God is a personal god. But this whole Jesus thing I just can't wrap my head around. I'm not seeking to justify or bash anything I GENUINELY cannot understand this whole thing while I've really tried to. What do you think. This is why Jesus.. who incarnated here was true.. most of the rest is BS Mind controller stuff imprisoning people on this world. See my Loosh thread Last Edited by Mother Maggie on 08/15/2022 04:27 PM Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO |
| BLACK GHOST
User ID: 80076858 United States08/15/2022 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not a feeling, it's a choice. You CHOOSE to love people every day, or not. You CHOOSE to honor and love your Creator, or not. "We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." |
| Mother Maggie
User ID: 84007494 United States08/15/2022 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is not real. He did not die for your sins and the rest that is garbage beloved. Last Edited by Mother Maggie on 08/15/2022 01:09 PM Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78119697  Mexico08/15/2022 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing is that you dont belive in GOd, or in any other God, but, another, but weird thing is that you just hate jesus alone and still belive in the same God, in the prophets, and in every single person in the old testament from genesis. If you just dont belive in any God,Then jesus makes no diferent, and arguing about it is just craziness and a very stupid thing to do. But, if you belive in the same GOd , in the prophets, and in everything from genesis, then you are just a hater, a jealous one, and an evil person acting like cain against his brother abel, and just like joshep brothers that wanted to get rid of him. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81443492 United States08/15/2022 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have struggled with this very feeling of being empty and not having an describable purpose in the church....it seemed like all avenues I tried to take to volunteer and serve were met with some force trying to stop me like nobody returning my emails..them out of the office everytime I went there to talk to someone.....My wife and daughter though they both volunteer and serve in the church all the time at multiple things...I couldn't grasp how I could not have a place to serve...and it hurt in my heart...But then I opened up and talked to my wife about it and she said something enlightening....she told me maybe my purpose was to enable her and my daughter to serve and volunteer...Perhaps Jesus has given me my purpose...to work hard so I can pay the bills and give my wife and daughter time and resources to serve and volunteer...Then I got to thinking about it..Had Moses wife and family not worked hard and supported Moses when he was told to build the ark he never would have been able to build the ark in time.. and it pretty much made sense to me....Someone must be in the background supporting those who are in the foreground serving and volunteering... |
| Furrry Pete
User ID: 84017581 United States08/15/2022 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really, I have tried so desperately to fully 'feel' it. Quoting: Skywave "We are born again in Jesus" "Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour" I grew up in a strongly religious household. I've always been told not to be afraid. I've always been told to 'trust Jesus', to give myself to him. I've tried to pray, I've tried to get it. I've tried to feel what the others feel, but I simply can't. I cannot understand the whole concept - why I should care that he died for our sins? What the worth in this sacrifice? Why was it necessary, and why it's necessary to have a relationship with HIM specifically. When people explain it I can VAGUELY understand it, in a very general way. How does it feel to 'love Jesus' ? I've felt deep peace during religious congregations, prayer groups, the World Youth Days, etc. - but I couldn't connect it with a personal relationship with Jesus in my soul. I know the peace I felt was somehow an experience related to God. I do believe in God and that God is a personal god. But this whole Jesus thing I just can't wrap my head around. I'm not seeking to justify or bash anything I GENUINELY cannot understand this whole thing while I've really tried to. What do you think. You simply don't believe in Christ or accept Him as your Savior. You must be born again. "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76781814 United States08/15/2022 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Much gratitude for the experience of it all and that He's there with me to share the joys and pains. He is home. Without Him I would be lost in the dream. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78119697 Mexico08/15/2022 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably because he teach and showed the rest of the world, things that would never been told by his own people before, since they all belived that God was just for them and for nobody else, they would not acept anybody that was not of their own, as Gods people, nor would teach God to anybody else, thinking that the rest were just unpure, unclean, and lesser humans.. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81443492 United States08/15/2022 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not a feeling, it's a choice. Quoting: BLACK GHOST You CHOOSE to love people every day, or not. You CHOOSE to honor and love your Creator, or not. I love my creator....and I love people.....but I hate them at the same time for being as evil and vial as they have become.....I hate them because their evil sinning ways keeps me away from them so their evil sinning doesn't become my corruption and sinning...I try to help people when they cross my path...But it becomes hard to do when you don't know whether they are going to stick you in the back with a knife to take your wallet while you do help.... |
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| 936432979
User ID: 76832232 United States08/15/2022 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have struggled with this very feeling of being empty and not having an describable purpose in the church....it seemed like all avenues I tried to take to volunteer and serve were met with some force trying to stop me like nobody returning my emails..them out of the office everytime I went there to talk to someone.....My wife and daughter though they both volunteer and serve in the church all the time at multiple things...I couldn't grasp how I could not have a place to serve...and it hurt in my heart...But then I opened up and talked to my wife about it and she said something enlightening....she told me maybe my purpose was to enable her and my daughter to serve and volunteer...Perhaps Jesus has given me my purpose...to work hard so I can pay the bills and give my wife and daughter time and resources to serve and volunteer...Then I got to thinking about it..Had Moses wife and family not worked hard and supported Moses when he was told to build the ark he never would have been able to build the ark in time.. and it pretty much made sense to me....Someone must be in the background supporting those who are in the foreground serving and volunteering... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81443492 Good point, yes, (and Noah not Moses.). |
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