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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83874141 United States 08/12/2022 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! Top Secret - 4 files Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83874141 Secret - 3 Confidential - 3 11 sets of classified material 1 leather bound "classified" box (TFFCI - highly classified) Files were kept in a location way below federal standard for safe keeping. Violation of Law by keeping these documents EVEN if they were declassified (according to prosecutors) Violation of Espionage Act (potential charge) As I understand it simply saying to one or two people that files were declassified isn't proper. Any President has to make a formal communication. Hard to prove when the GSA was contracted to pack these files and send them to whereever (Mara-lago, trump tower, NARA, etc). Its already public information the GSA sent some wrong boxes to Mara-lago and was confirmed today by several of Trumps own administration that was there at the time. -- Not anonymous sources. That could be true and maybe why the agency and Trumps lawyers were in negotiations to get it sorted out. In the end, certain documents, as mentioned above, do not belong in any private residence. We'll all see where it goes from here.. |
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User ID: 46602693 United States 08/12/2022 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! Top Secret - 4 files Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83874141 Secret - 3 Confidential - 3 11 sets of classified material 1 leather bound "classified" box (TFFCI - highly classified) Files were kept in a location way below federal standard for safe keeping. Violation of Law by keeping these documents EVEN if they were declassified (according to prosecutors) Violation of Espionage Act (potential charge) As I understand it simply saying to one or two people that files were declassified isn't proper. Any President has to make a formal communication. Hard to prove when the GSA was contracted to pack these files and send them to whereever (Mara-lago, trump tower, NARA, etc). Its already public information the GSA sent some wrong boxes to Mara-lago and was confirmed today by several of Trumps own administration that was there at the time. -- Not anonymous sources. Does GSA stand for Graduate Student Association? jack |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79427900 Germany 08/12/2022 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! 'And what are they going to do with the 33 million pages of documents (many that were classified) that Obama took to Chicago?' Quoting: Ragnar_Lothbrok Karen-Gestapo Liberals don't give a shit about greed, meanness and corruption when other Karen-Gestapo Liberals are involved. If they didn't, they wouldn't be Karen-Gestapo Liberals to begin with. Beijing, China is looking at Washington DC right now and is starting to get green with envy. |
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User ID: 46602693 United States 08/12/2022 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! 'And what are they going to do with the 33 million pages of documents (many that were classified) that Obama took to Chicago?' Quoting: Ragnar_Lothbrok NUCLEAR MAGA! Lol https://twitter.com/_/status/1558159296411697152 You can't make up the level of corruption that exists within this Biden Administration... Everyone says they are incompetent... But judging by how they're destroying the country, attempting to destroy Trump, I'd say it's all calculated and corrupt to the core. Trump destroys himself. See how many cases he's got going on? Biden's fault. LOL. Grow up. He has a lot of cases because he is under attack by the evil deep state. Do you not understand much? jack |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79427900 Germany 08/12/2022 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! In the end, certain documents, as mentioned above, do not belong in any private residence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83874141 We'll all see where it goes from here.. You know damn well that the meaning of confidential or not fully depends on whether the owner of the material is a Karen-Gestapo Liberal or not. |
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(OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 51448613 United Kingdom 08/12/2022 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! What does the word "OP" mean in your title? Is your title speaking in code? Bwahahaha Quoting: leader Opening post? Lol.. It might be a British thing. Quick Google shows it means Original post/er too. ------------------------------------- "I've Seen Enough Of War. I've Seen Enough Of Death. I Don't Want To Be A Public Person Anymore." SKOL! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83874141 United States 08/12/2022 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! Top Secret - 4 files Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83874141 Secret - 3 Confidential - 3 11 sets of classified material 1 leather bound "classified" box (TFFCI - highly classified) Files were kept in a location way below federal standard for safe keeping. Violation of Law by keeping these documents EVEN if they were declassified (according to prosecutors) Violation of Espionage Act (potential charge) As I understand it simply saying to one or two people that files were declassified isn't proper. Any President has to make a formal communication. Hard to prove when the GSA was contracted to pack these files and send them to whereever (Mara-lago, trump tower, NARA, etc). Its already public information the GSA sent some wrong boxes to Mara-lago and was confirmed today by several of Trumps own administration that was there at the time. -- Not anonymous sources. How does the GSA end up sending a leather-bound highly classified box out to a private residence?? AND why didn't anyone at Mar a Lago notice the 'sore thumb' out-of-place box ??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81927331 United States 08/12/2022 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! Sounds like those within trump hate May have executed another “insurance policy”? But lots of questions now? We all know Trump himself did not pack the documents, Trump himself ordered declassification but his team administratively performed declassification, we know trump admin was ignorant and had been taken advantage of by fbi visit to the young admin charging Flynn …was trump team packing up documents purposefully allowed to pack those documents taking advantage of ignorance? Was it negligence like Hillary who had 7 SCI? Or was it intentional espionage and criminal? Both are illegal, yet Hillary was excused? The biggest problem is Hillary sets the precedence? Unless you have absolute rock solid espionage, a criminal act, the President is above being guilty of anything more than Hillary? This is not just a trump question, it’s trumps team who packed the documents and it’s the civil servant security monitor? Those documents were not controlled by trump…but by security control officers in government…they are on inventory and logs each time viewed or accessed, removed and if copies made…logged. Why the governments lack of control, why two years until, wow we just now, 2 years from possible declaring running for President the doj does this? The security control team and records custodian, and government archivist had to clear the documents and if not who is accountable…seems like a lot of government non-political officials are in trouble? All above are questions…this is bad no matter…. knowing Hillary server was likely penetrated by China and a Chinese spy tried to get into Mario largo? I think Hillary should have been charged criminally and if violations, trump should be charged! |
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User ID: 84005704 United States 08/12/2022 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! Top Secret - 4 files Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83874141 Secret - 3 Confidential - 3 11 sets of classified material 1 leather bound "classified" box (TFFCI - highly classified) Files were kept in a location way below federal standard for safe keeping. Violation of Law by keeping these documents EVEN if they were declassified (according to prosecutors) Violation of Espionage Act (potential charge) As I understand it simply saying to one or two people that files were declassified isn't proper. Any President has to make a formal communication. Hard to prove when the GSA was contracted to pack these files and send them to whereever (Mara-lago, trump tower, NARA, etc). Its already public information the GSA sent some wrong boxes to Mara-lago and was confirmed today by several of Trumps own administration that was there at the time. -- Not anonymous sources. That could be true and maybe why the agency and Trumps lawyers were in negotiations to get it sorted out. In the end, certain documents, as mentioned above, do not belong in any private residence. We'll all see where it goes from here.. That is true, and I wonder what is the truth behind the padlock that supposedly trump said he was directed to place on the door. The other point that is important is if it was unclassified. From what I understand typically the president and DNI work together to catalog specific documents to be declassified. In this case Trump declassified specific categories of documents without the DNI (which is perfectly in his power), and from what I understand because of this some documents are unclassified, but still logged as classified with past/current DNI and NARA. So that could present problems there. |
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User ID: 84005704 United States 08/12/2022 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! Top Secret - 4 files Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83874141 Secret - 3 Confidential - 3 11 sets of classified material 1 leather bound "classified" box (TFFCI - highly classified) Files were kept in a location way below federal standard for safe keeping. Violation of Law by keeping these documents EVEN if they were declassified (according to prosecutors) Violation of Espionage Act (potential charge) As I understand it simply saying to one or two people that files were declassified isn't proper. Any President has to make a formal communication. Hard to prove when the GSA was contracted to pack these files and send them to whereever (Mara-lago, trump tower, NARA, etc). Its already public information the GSA sent some wrong boxes to Mara-lago and was confirmed today by several of Trumps own administration that was there at the time. -- Not anonymous sources. How does the GSA end up sending a leather-bound highly classified box out to a private residence?? AND why didn't anyone at Mar a Lago notice the 'sore thumb' out-of-place box ??? Because if 100 similar boxes were packed and moved to mara-lago and placed in a basement no one would ever really know. With that said, the question comes with what happened when this was subpoened earlier this year. NARA's team was there at Mara-lago while the documents were there. This makes me believe it is a he said vs she said of what is classified and not classified. And lets be honest, its really tough for a President who has ultimate de-classification powers to mishandle documents illegally. Thats why no President has ever been charged before when they were in possession of classified documents many months out of office. The argument of thinking it was declassified (vs if it wasnt) will never rise to criminal intent, because it could simply have been declassified to avoid that. Its essentially the same as an avoidable process crime. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81927331 United States 08/12/2022 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! If when they said put an extra lock…those individuals knew? Immediately this should have been escorted and returned…no wait! Secret service posted at the door! Not waiting several weeks! These timelines do not pass the smell test! Several years out of office? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83874141 United States 08/12/2022 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! Top Secret - 4 files Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83874141 Secret - 3 Confidential - 3 11 sets of classified material 1 leather bound "classified" box (TFFCI - highly classified) Files were kept in a location way below federal standard for safe keeping. Violation of Law by keeping these documents EVEN if they were declassified (according to prosecutors) Violation of Espionage Act (potential charge) As I understand it simply saying to one or two people that files were declassified isn't proper. Any President has to make a formal communication. Hard to prove when the GSA was contracted to pack these files and send them to whereever (Mara-lago, trump tower, NARA, etc). Its already public information the GSA sent some wrong boxes to Mara-lago and was confirmed today by several of Trumps own administration that was there at the time. -- Not anonymous sources. That could be true and maybe why the agency and Trumps lawyers were in negotiations to get it sorted out. In the end, certain documents, as mentioned above, do not belong in any private residence. We'll all see where it goes from here.. That is true, and I wonder what is the truth behind the padlock that supposedly trump said he was directed to place on the door. The other point that is important is if it was unclassified. From what I understand typically the president and DNI work together to catalog specific documents to be declassified. In this case Trump declassified specific categories of documents without the DNI (which is perfectly in his power), and from what I understand because of this some documents are unclassified, but still logged as classified with past/current DNI and NARA. So that could present problems there. There is a process for declass. He can't simply say he declassed them. It has to be done with an announcement - presumably to reach the public at large. He did that in Oct 2020 (Russia Spygate and Hillary's emails). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83516054 United States 08/12/2022 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! Ryan Saavedra Retweeted Dan McLaughlin @baseballcrank Reminder: 18 U.S. Code § 793, the Espionage Act, was the precise statute Hillary Clinton violated & was not charged for violating. Specifically, § 793(f): 4:04 PM · Aug 12, 2022·TweetDeck [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81927331 United States 08/12/2022 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! Was it just the leather classified box with nothing in it? Sorry but the box is not classified and a neat keepsake? But was the box, boxed without checking for inbound mail in the box? So many questions? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83516054 United States 08/12/2022 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! ... Quoting: MaximusRex Hard to prove when the GSA was contracted to pack these files and send them to whereever (Mara-lago, trump tower, NARA, etc). Its already public information the GSA sent some wrong boxes to Mara-lago and was confirmed today by several of Trumps own administration that was there at the time. -- Not anonymous sources. That could be true and maybe why the agency and Trumps lawyers were in negotiations to get it sorted out. In the end, certain documents, as mentioned above, do not belong in any private residence. We'll all see where it goes from here.. That is true, and I wonder what is the truth behind the padlock that supposedly trump said he was directed to place on the door. The other point that is important is if it was unclassified. From what I understand typically the president and DNI work together to catalog specific documents to be declassified. In this case Trump declassified specific categories of documents without the DNI (which is perfectly in his power), and from what I understand because of this some documents are unclassified, but still logged as classified with past/current DNI and NARA. So that could present problems there. There is a process for declass. He can't simply say he declassed them. It has to be done with an announcement - presumably to reach the public at large. He did that in Oct 2020 (Russia Spygate and Hillary's emails). I remember him directly someone else to fully follow the process and declassify something. whether it ws the original jackass who was his chief of staff or one of the others or john ratcliffe himself. Poor Larry Kudlow does not understand what is happening. He's live on air on fox business and he keeps repeating that trump would not do this. The man had a heart attack while in the administration and he seems so upset and angry. And he's got all the right people on to discuss this so wondering why they don't ever repeat his program. |
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(OP) Forum Moderator User ID: 51448613 United Kingdom 08/12/2022 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! YES! The raid was a fishing expedition so the FBI could retrieve evidence that implicates the FBI and many more! Remember the RED FOLDER Trump held up on Jan6 ? Yes, yes I do! Sure it was carefully placed on centre table when he was watching the crowd on the TV too. ------------------------------------- "I've Seen Enough Of War. I've Seen Enough Of Death. I Don't Want To Be A Public Person Anymore." SKOL! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53739983 United States 08/12/2022 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! ... Quoting: MaximusRex Hard to prove when the GSA was contracted to pack these files and send them to whereever (Mara-lago, trump tower, NARA, etc). Its already public information the GSA sent some wrong boxes to Mara-lago and was confirmed today by several of Trumps own administration that was there at the time. -- Not anonymous sources. That could be true and maybe why the agency and Trumps lawyers were in negotiations to get it sorted out. In the end, certain documents, as mentioned above, do not belong in any private residence. We'll all see where it goes from here.. That is true, and I wonder what is the truth behind the padlock that supposedly trump said he was directed to place on the door. The other point that is important is if it was unclassified. From what I understand typically the president and DNI work together to catalog specific documents to be declassified. In this case Trump declassified specific categories of documents without the DNI (which is perfectly in his power), and from what I understand because of this some documents are unclassified, but still logged as classified with past/current DNI and NARA. So that could present problems there. There is a process for declass. He can't simply say he declassed them. It has to be done with an announcement - presumably to reach the public at large. He did that in Oct 2020 (Russia Spygate and Hillary's emails). Mark Meadows witnessed Trump Declass on the documents |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83874141 United States 08/12/2022 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! Was it just the leather classified box with nothing in it? Sorry but the box is not classified and a neat keepsake? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81927331 But was the box, boxed without checking for inbound mail in the box? So many questions? Like.. How much could the Trump's get for a leather box of highly classified docs electronically transmitted or mailed? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84005749 United States 08/12/2022 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING - TRUMP: 'Documents were Declassified!' UPDATE: Full Warrant and Property Receipt in OP! 'And what are they going to do with the 33 million pages of documents (many that were classified) that Obama took to Chicago?' Quoting: Ragnar_Lothbrok NUCLEAR MAGA! Lol https://twitter.com/_/status/1558159296411697152 FULL WARRANT AND PROPERTY RECEIPT: [imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)] https://twitter.com/_/status/1558170471807557642 Hell, even if they weren't declassified I see no problem with that. After all, Trump never stopped being the U.S. President and Biden is a Usurper. Trump is obviously protecting important documents from Biden for reasons of national security and the Usurper sent in his thugs to take them from the real President by force. Marines are still nowhere to be found doing their duty to protect Trump. |
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