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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77348469 United States 08/12/2022 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes Justice Department, use the government’s historical race and religious discrimination as justification for discrimination against those prescribed a certain inexpensive drug anyone can grow. Sociopathic greedy assed bastards will use anything to keep the kickbacks coming from Big Pharma. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84004818 United States 08/12/2022 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80280681 Pot heads won't die of liver disease and obesity like you bitch boi There is reason the federal government doesn't want people to smoke MJ. It is NOT a good thing Exactly, MJ can put you into a state of hyper-reality and make you realize how corrupt and fake everything is. MJ greatly reduces the odds you will kill someone that doesn't need killing. It DOES NOT decrease the odds you will kill someone that NEEDS killing, thats why the FED GOV doesn't want smokers to have firearms. |
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Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 08/12/2022 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut 21.e on ATF form 4473 "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside." [link to www.atf.gov (secure)] It's already not legal, this isn't a new thing. At all. And yes, it applies to democrats too, but for some reason high profile democrats always get a pass, including Biden's son Hunter. That's the part that is most revolting to me, they'll threaten to crank up enforcement on the peasants, but they will protect their own. You'll never see Nikki Fried or Hunter Biden charged with lying on their 4473's. "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana" No, but I do smoke it. The Federal Government has no constitution mandate to criminalize MJ, its laws are null Not how the Federal government sees it, just saying. I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm saying they're threatening to crack down all while willfully ignoring high profile people in their own party who are blatantly guilty. Smoking marijuana IS NOT illegal and MJ is NOT addictive. Possession of it is illegal in some states, smoking it or being "high" IS NOT illegal. Sorry but that's just wrong. If you're smoking it, you're in possession of it as far as Federal law is concerned. Let's not get the forum in trouble by advocating for breaking federal laws, ok? Thanks. The 4473 is VERY clear on this. 21.e on ATF form 4473 "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside." [link to www.atf.gov (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84004818 United States 08/12/2022 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84004818 "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana" No, but I do smoke it. The Federal Government has no constitution mandate to criminalize MJ, its laws are null Not how the Federal government sees it, just saying. I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm saying they're threatening to crack down all while willfully ignoring high profile people in their own party who are blatantly guilty. Smoking marijuana IS NOT illegal and MJ is NOT addictive. Possession of it is illegal in some states, smoking it or being "high" IS NOT illegal. Sorry but that's just wrong. If you're smoking it, you're in possession of it as far as Federal law is concerned. Let's not get the forum in trouble by advocating for breaking federal laws, ok? Thanks. The 4473 is VERY clear on this. 21.e on ATF form 4473 "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside." [link to www.atf.gov (secure)] You sure as hell aren't lawyer. When I bought guns I did NOT lie |
Tanoros
User ID: 79771926 United States 08/12/2022 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That’s not the point, it’s hypocrisy that is the point. Should those who drink, take prescription medication, caffeine, tobacco, or psychedelics be allowed to own guns? At what level of, “mind altering” is the line for owning a gun and not? I personally find it hard to call naturally occurring plants, “drugs”. It would be like damning fruits and vegetables because processed food is bad for you. Naturally occurring mind altering substances open our mind up beyond normal limitations. Sure it can be done without these substances, but for many, it’s what kickstarts them. For instance, psychedelics are an integral spiritual component for many indigenous cultures. Are these cultures full of, “druggies”? Last I looked it’s not the indigenous who aren’t living in harmony with the world around them. Our reality is far from what it seems, and we are not our bodies (or the ego). This reality isn’t the, “base reality”, the natural laws apply only to this reality. As such, opening one’s mind up to greater reality is what many of the, “controllers fear”. Remember, “knowledge is power” and we have scrape and claw for every bit of True Knowledge. Including, pushing past the shills who attempt to derail us. If your not a shill, respond with a thought process that shows some critical thinking instead of an emotional response. Critical thinking, being rational, and able to articulate our point of view is how grown ups communicate. Please, your welcome to join the table. Good luck everyone |
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Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 08/12/2022 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut Not how the Federal government sees it, just saying. I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm saying they're threatening to crack down all while willfully ignoring high profile people in their own party who are blatantly guilty. Smoking marijuana IS NOT illegal and MJ is NOT addictive. Possession of it is illegal in some states, smoking it or being "high" IS NOT illegal. Sorry but that's just wrong. If you're smoking it, you're in possession of it as far as Federal law is concerned. Let's not get the forum in trouble by advocating for breaking federal laws, ok? Thanks. The 4473 is VERY clear on this. 21.e on ATF form 4473 "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside." [link to www.atf.gov (secure)] You sure as hell aren't lawyer. When I bought guns I did NOT lie What part of this did you not understand? "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside." [link to www.atf.gov (secure)] I have been patient and kind to you, but enough is enough. The form is VERY clear and I will not let you endanger the forum by advocating for lying on the 4473. Do it again and you're banned, this is starting to look like very obvious bait to make a report to the feds about "dangerous posts" on GLP. |
redhed6971
User ID: 72089733 United States 08/12/2022 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep I agree but it has always been that way for all addictive/drug substances, if you’re an alcoholic,druggie, Coke, meth, H, you get the picture. also if you’re on antidepressant meds. Seriously, you need to be totally straight/sober if you wanna own a firearm or rifle. Last Edited by redhed6971 on 08/12/2022 10:31 AM “Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.” "Hello, I need a replacement filter for a Hoover Max Extract 60 Pressure Pro." “You actually slaughter each other over affairs of the spirit.” Da’an Earth-Final Conflict |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82124394 Denmark 08/12/2022 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do what the democrats do just change the name of a gun to a potato and you can own that one. Actually there are options that do not count as a firearm. ATF has no authority over them, whatsoever. As a result, you can literally go buy a full auto one of these, today: Now, the current tech doesn't have the stopping power of a proper firearm, but it's getting better over time. And I sure wouldn't want to be hit with one, or about 10 of them in a split second on full auto. The fact that it's not a firearm and does not fall under the current regulatory framework in any way is very nice. Another option, perfectly legal and not a firearm as far as the regulatory framework is concerned? Replica antique guns, including black powder revolvers. Now these fuckers DO have some serious stopping power. You can buy one right now, no background check, no 4473, no regulations whatsoever. You can be a convicted felon, doesn't matter, it's not a "firearm" as far as federal law is concerned. The only thing you have to be careful of are state laws. It seems like Commiefornia may have some restrictions on it and treat it as a firearm once there are percussion caps on it (ie, it's loaded and ready to fire). I also have no clue what Commiefornia may have in store for regulations regarding coil guns. But again, as far as federal law is concerned, these options are not firearms. That coil thing shoots about as hard as an airsoft |
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User ID: 81230252 United States 08/12/2022 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do what the democrats do just change the name of a gun to a potato and you can own that one. Actually there are options that do not count as a firearm. ATF has no authority over them, whatsoever. As a result, you can literally go buy a full auto one of these, today: Now, the current tech doesn't have the stopping power of a proper firearm, but it's getting better over time. And I sure wouldn't want to be hit with one, or about 10 of them in a split second on full auto. The fact that it's not a firearm and does not fall under the current regulatory framework in any way is very nice. Another option, perfectly legal and not a firearm as far as the regulatory framework is concerned? Replica antique guns, including black powder revolvers. Now these fuckers DO have some serious stopping power. You can buy one right now, no background check, no 4473, no regulations whatsoever. You can be a convicted felon, doesn't matter, it's not a "firearm" as far as federal law is concerned. The only thing you have to be careful of are state laws. It seems like Commiefornia may have some restrictions on it and treat it as a firearm once there are percussion caps on it (ie, it's loaded and ready to fire). I also have no clue what Commiefornia may have in store for regulations regarding coil guns. But again, as far as federal law is concerned, these options are not firearms. great info (as you always provide on many things)! thanks! Articles and "news" from liberal media shall now be known as catnip for libtards. Truth is schilling in the empire of retards. "Yep but for now we dub you toast guy." - AC520845 *PROCLAIMED PROPHET OF THE DOW* ® Let me know when the climate STOPS changing, then i'll be worried. |
Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 08/12/2022 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do what the democrats do just change the name of a gun to a potato and you can own that one. Actually there are options that do not count as a firearm. ATF has no authority over them, whatsoever. As a result, you can literally go buy a full auto one of these, today: Now, the current tech doesn't have the stopping power of a proper firearm, but it's getting better over time. And I sure wouldn't want to be hit with one, or about 10 of them in a split second on full auto. The fact that it's not a firearm and does not fall under the current regulatory framework in any way is very nice. Another option, perfectly legal and not a firearm as far as the regulatory framework is concerned? Replica antique guns, including black powder revolvers. Now these fuckers DO have some serious stopping power. You can buy one right now, no background check, no 4473, no regulations whatsoever. You can be a convicted felon, doesn't matter, it's not a "firearm" as far as federal law is concerned. The only thing you have to be careful of are state laws. It seems like Commiefornia may have some restrictions on it and treat it as a firearm once there are percussion caps on it (ie, it's loaded and ready to fire). I also have no clue what Commiefornia may have in store for regulations regarding coil guns. But again, as far as federal law is concerned, these options are not firearms. That coil thing shoots about as hard as an airsoft Sure, but with orders of magnitude more mass. I don't mind getting hit with an airsoft BB. This carries a lot more energy due to higher mass, getting hit with one, or several in rapid succession, would suck a lot more. Not deadly levels of suck, but still hurt like a motherfucker. Last Edited by Astromut on 08/12/2022 10:41 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79690300 United States 08/12/2022 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One wonders if Snowden regrets throwing away his life to warn ungrateful Americans about unconstitutional NSA wire-tapping. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82899452 I was thinking the same about our founders. If they could see what this outcome was they would have said fuckit, the king ain't so bad and the people deserve it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84005073 United States 08/12/2022 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL!! Quoting: Desert Oasis It’s a known fact if you hold a medical marijuana card you are not allowed to own a gun . I say when they take ALL the guns from the criminals who illegally possess them then they can worry about those dope smokers . Pfffft. You supposedly are not allowed to buy a gun using a federal background check. In most states being in the presence of guns and illegal drugs is a misdemeanor |
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Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 08/12/2022 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do what the democrats do just change the name of a gun to a potato and you can own that one. Actually there are options that do not count as a firearm. ATF has no authority over them, whatsoever. As a result, you can literally go buy a full auto one of these, today: Now, the current tech doesn't have the stopping power of a proper firearm, but it's getting better over time. And I sure wouldn't want to be hit with one, or about 10 of them in a split second on full auto. The fact that it's not a firearm and does not fall under the current regulatory framework in any way is very nice. Another option, perfectly legal and not a firearm as far as the regulatory framework is concerned? Replica antique guns, including black powder revolvers. Now these fuckers DO have some serious stopping power. You can buy one right now, no background check, no 4473, no regulations whatsoever. You can be a convicted felon, doesn't matter, it's not a "firearm" as far as federal law is concerned. The only thing you have to be careful of are state laws. It seems like Commiefornia may have some restrictions on it and treat it as a firearm once there are percussion caps on it (ie, it's loaded and ready to fire). I also have no clue what Commiefornia may have in store for regulations regarding coil guns. But again, as far as federal law is concerned, these options are not firearms. great info (as you always provide on many things)! thanks! Thank you! If I ever got into a situation where I was prohibited from possessing or carrying my usual guns, I would go out and buy a black powder revolver and just carry that loaded and concealed. It would be more of a PITA and not carry as many rounds, but it would be perfectly legal and there's not a damn thing the ATF or anyone else could do about it. They're a lot of fun to shoot, but their higher weight and significant size makes it a last option as far as every day carry goes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80989674 United States 08/12/2022 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about recreational weed? You’re not on a list if you smoke recreationally. You don’t need a medical recommendation for recreational. Stupid people do stupid things. Not only that, the cat is out of the bag that alcohol is associated with way more batshit crazy behavior than weed. Good luck taking the guns away from all the people who consume alcohol. And good luck taking the guns from all the people who smoke weed. It’s a fool’s errand. But they’re fools so hey don’t vote for fools I guess lol!!!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84005073 United States 08/12/2022 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about recreational weed? You’re not on a list if you smoke recreationally. You don’t need a medical recommendation for recreational. Stupid people do stupid things. Not only that, the cat is out of the bag that alcohol is associated with way more batshit crazy behavior than weed. Good luck taking the guns away from all the people who consume alcohol. And good luck taking the guns from all the people who smoke weed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80989674 It’s a fool’s errand. But they’re fools so hey don’t vote for fools I guess lol!!!!! Don't ask, don't tell. The US government has no business or need to know what weed U.S. citizens smoke or otherwise utilize. |
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