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theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!

 
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theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
think about it !!!!!

just got young dudes using old notes


the designers and makers are dead
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
Just press the shiny red button.

Although there is truth to the aging nuclear force and a need for modernization has been talked about.

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The moon landing was real
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
Yeah... I mean the chain of custody of that should be the previous expert always taught the next one... and there could be a running lineage for the people necessary for the upkeep and decommissioning of those warheads.
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
I don't know.. we stopped testing in 1992. I have a hard time believing no one from '92 is still around
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In Case Of Emergency Break Glass
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
Yeah... I mean the chain of custody of that should be the previous expert always taught the next one... and there could be a running lineage for the people necessary for the upkeep and decommissioning of those warheads.
 Quoting: BFD


And thus we have a great plot for a film set hundreds of years from now, where humanity has descended to pre-industrial feudal levels, genetic abberations brought on by 5G and the mRNA gene therapy has created tribes with differing powers and abilities, and the ruling family is that way only because they are hereditary holders of the launch codes and keys.

Of course, our hero would discover old documentation on how to disarm and control the missiles, but would need to find a "yoda" to help decode the ancient english.

It's all there - call HellyWeird!

laugh

cheers

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Last Edited by MountainTux NLI on 08/11/2022 06:48 PM
ad ignorantiam - The assumption of a conclusion or fact based primarily on lack of evidence to the contrary. Usually best described by, “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.”
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Yeah... I mean the chain of custody of that should be the previous expert always taught the next one... and there could be a running lineage for the people necessary for the upkeep and decommissioning of those warheads.
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And thus we have a great plot for a film set hundreds of years from now, where humanity has descended to pre-industrial feudal levels, genetic abberations brought on by 5G and the mRNA gene therapy has created tribes with differing powers and abilities, and the ruling family is that way only because they are hereditary holders of the launch codes and keys.

Of course, our hero would discover old documentation on how to disarm and control the missiles, but would need to find a "yoda" to help decode the ancient english.

It's all there - call HellyWeird!

laugh

cheers

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


You've never watched Idiocracy?
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
It's called an instruction manual
Blueprints
Formulas

You're thinking is like saying we can't make planes anymore because the Wright brothers are dead.
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
It's called an instruction manual
Blueprints
Formulas

You're thinking is like saying we can't make planes anymore because the Wright brothers are dead.
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We can't use telephones because Alexander Graham Bell is dead

Steve Jobs is dead too so I Phones don't work anymore
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
Yeah... I mean the chain of custody of that should be the previous expert always taught the next one... and there could be a running lineage for the people necessary for the upkeep and decommissioning of those warheads.
 Quoting: BFD


And thus we have a great plot for a film set hundreds of years from now, where humanity has descended to pre-industrial feudal levels, genetic abberations brought on by 5G and the mRNA gene therapy has created tribes with differing powers and abilities, and the ruling family is that way only because they are hereditary holders of the launch codes and keys.

Of course, our hero would discover old documentation on how to disarm and control the missiles, but would need to find a "yoda" to help decode the ancient english.

It's all there - call HellyWeird!

laugh

cheers

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


You've never watched Idiocracy?
 Quoting: BFD


Actually, I really haven't. I have a hard enough time dealing with a corporate level job - to subject myself to more of the same for "entertainment?"

I just can't.

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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
Around 1994 I was an aerospace engineer who often traveled to Los Alamos and Sandia.

The DoE labs led by Sandia began a “knowledge capture” program to preserve knowledge of nuclear designers.

We also used their software to capture knowledge of aerospace engineers. For example, my company made sats including the GPS. We were down to one senior engineer who had spent a career designing the battery systems for sats.

We captured his knowledge so that a green EE grad could design a battery system for a sat.

I have no personal knowledge of how successful the knowledge capture worked at Sandia.

The biggest problem is that the entire fedgov is thoroughly penetrated with enemy agents including the ones caught in “honey pots” and blackmailed.

The only truly secret tech is locked up in the Black World where even the Prez and SecDef do NOT have need to know.
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
It's called an instruction manual
Blueprints
Formulas

You're thinking is like saying we can't make planes anymore because the Wright brothers are dead.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


I make highly complex tools for 3d software and without annotations and notes that I leave for myself... it can take me a bit to even figure out where I was if I open up a project from a few years ago.

Some of the breakthroughs we make are only because of a specific process that a few people figure out, and without them or their students... it's never going to be the same, or highly unlikely.

The skills that top-tier technicians bring to the table are nothing short of miraculous, in many cases... and without developing a pedagogical structure for passing those discoveries down through time... it becomes exponentially more unlikely that those successes will be repeated.
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
It's called an instruction manual
Blueprints
Formulas

You're thinking is like saying we can't make planes anymore because the Wright brothers are dead.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


I make highly complex tools for 3d software and without annotations and notes that I leave for myself... it can take me a bit to even figure out where I was if I open up a project from a few years ago.

Some of the breakthroughs we make are only because of a specific process that a few people figure out, and without them or their students... it's never going to be the same, or highly unlikely.

The skills that top-tier technicians bring to the table are nothing short of miraculous, in many cases... and without developing a pedagogical structure for passing those discoveries down through time... it becomes exponentially more unlikely that those successes will be repeated.
 Quoting: BFD


That's why people leave notes...

Oh I understand your point, much like how the instructions/patent for insulin was sold for a dollar so it would be cheap and affordable...*cough*

Digression aside... these weren't private one man shows but group projects completed...well, how many nukes does America currently have? (Adding those used/tested/decommissioned)

I mean, they're not building "fat mans" here regardless...the tech has progressed just a wee little bit...much like aeronautical engineering has

Plenty of times individual creations/formulas were lost - starlite being a near one only released/sold after the creators death for example - but that's a very different matter.
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
The moon landing was real
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
Well, most have retired and died.

The ones I know in there 40's in the 1990's at Pantex and other contractors, Los Alamos, LLNL etc have moved on.

If you are 40 in the mind 1990's add 25 years and that's .. if they are still alive.

Now for nukeworkers and outages .. well ...

Who gave everyone the little vaccine mandate? Who took the vaccine? Look at the chromosomes in your average nuke worker?

Add Pfizer and they are all snuffing it from cancers. As it turns out - your immune system mops most cancers up.

And now we have - no nuke workers.
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
Why not outsource to Israel or Japan?

I’ll bet they are building nukes right now.
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
They do not exist, and never did.
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Yeah... I mean the chain of custody of that should be the previous expert always taught the next one... and there could be a running lineage for the people necessary for the upkeep and decommissioning of those warheads.
 Quoting: BFD


And thus we have a great plot for a film set hundreds of years from now, where humanity has descended to pre-industrial feudal levels, genetic abberations brought on by 5G and the mRNA gene therapy has created tribes with differing powers and abilities, and the ruling family is that way only because they are hereditary holders of the launch codes and keys.

Of course, our hero would discover old documentation on how to disarm and control the missiles, but would need to find a "yoda" to help decode the ancient english.

It's all there - call HellyWeird!

laugh

cheers

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


NOICE!!

touche
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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
Just press the shiny red button.

Although there is truth to the aging nuclear force and a need for modernization has been talked about.

[link to theweek.com (secure)]
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


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Re: theres no one left alive that knows how western nukes work !!!!!
It's called an instruction manual
Blueprints
Formulas

You're thinking is like saying we can't make planes anymore because the Wright brothers are dead.
 Quoting: Sol-tari


We can't use telephones because Alexander Graham Bell is dead

Steve Jobs is dead too so I Phones don't work anymore
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phones were a looong time........kid stop
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