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YouAreDreaming
(OP) User ID: 65871117 Canada 08/09/2022 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fractal Consciousness... Fractals and the irreducibility of consciousness in plants and animals In both plants and animals consciousness is fractal. Since fractals can only pass information in one direction it is impossible to extrapolate backward to find the rule that governs the fractal. Thus, similarly, it will be impossible to completely determine the rule or rules that govern consciousness. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 65871117 Canada 08/09/2022 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's all fractal in the end... the cosmos, the micro-cosmos, us. Let's not forget the dipole... the feedback-loop of information in all things that scales up into our conscious experiences. Consciousness, Vorticity, and Dipoles [link to www.researchgate.net (secure)] We are all interconnected as nodes of self-awareness in the cosmic manifold of time/space. And the subjective paradox it forms that keeps so many people trapped in the fish-bowl of subjectivity, that illusion of separation from the whole of which we are all parts. |
BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 08/09/2022 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been asking myself. If I am, the immutable self. Why am I not experiencing physical life through your eyes, or someone else's? Even though you and I are one? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876241 We aren't one, God made sure that the combinations of DNA would never repeat except with identical twins... And I will not take any responsibility for any trouble my other me's get into or cause... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78876241 Switzerland 08/09/2022 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been asking myself. If I am, the immutable self. Why am I not experiencing physical life through your eyes, or someone else's? Even though you and I are one? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876241 We aren't one, God made sure that the combinations of DNA would never repeat except with identical twins... And I will not take any responsibility for any trouble my other me's get into or cause... You and I, we ARE god. |
YouAreDreaming
(OP) User ID: 65871117 Canada 08/09/2022 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been asking myself. If I am, the immutable self. Why am I not experiencing physical life through your eyes, or someone else's? Even though you and I are one? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876241 It's more an issue of how we are immersed into the subjective role of the body, and how our consciousness is shaped. If you move out of your current interface into non-locality and pick-up other bands of information, assuming your ego allows for it you could have a different perspective of someone of your other probable lives. It's more uncommon as most people are really locked into their self-identity that has shaped in their current life. You do have to move your self-awareness into other bands of information ie... another life interface to have feedback of it's experience. In out-of-body accounts people who suddenly become another lifeform as one example. Here they call it Zoomorphism in dreaming. Dreams often are parts of this self-awareness fractal and information there can be exchanged in some pretty wild ways. Last Edited by YouAreDreaming on 08/09/2022 06:03 PM |
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User ID: 79662918 United States 08/09/2022 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been asking myself. If I am, the immutable self. Why am I not experiencing physical life through your eyes, or someone else's? Even though you and I are one? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876241 We aren't one, God made sure that the combinations of DNA would never repeat except with identical twins... And I will not take any responsibility for any trouble my other me's get into or cause... You and I, we ARE god. We are created in His image, and by His energy...Contrary to what some here might tell you that I believe, I know I'm no god... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83963675 United Kingdom 08/09/2022 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you think that means I was probably both at some point? I am loath to even imagine but having read Rudolph Steiner entire back catalogue( which is no mean feat) I have come to the conclusion that the wheel of karma will not let me off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78876241 Switzerland 08/09/2022 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been asking myself. If I am, the immutable self. Why am I not experiencing physical life through your eyes, or someone else's? Even though you and I are one? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876241 It's more an issue of how we are immersed into the subjective role of the body, and how our consciousness is shaped. If you move out of your current interface into non-locality and pick-up other bands of information, assuming your ego allows for it you could have a different perspective of someone of your other probable lives. It's more uncommon as most people are really locked into their self-identity that has shaped in their current life. You do have to move your self-awareness into other bands of information ie... another life interface to have feedback of it's experience. In out-of-body accounts people who suddenly become another lifeform as one example. Here they call it Zoomorphism in dreaming. Dreams often are parts of this self-awareness fractal and information there can be exchanged in some pretty wild ways. Maybe I just don't understand your answer of I didn't ask the right question. But why am I experiencing through my body though. Even though all experience at it's root comes from the immutable self, which you and I both are? I keep thinking I should be experiencing everything all at the same time. Instead of what I'm seeing through the eyes of my own body. Same as you are through your eyes. It somehow separates us and makes it seem like we are not one after all. |
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YouAreDreaming
(OP) User ID: 65871117 Canada 08/09/2022 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been asking myself. If I am, the immutable self. Why am I not experiencing physical life through your eyes, or someone else's? Even though you and I are one? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78876241 We aren't one, God made sure that the combinations of DNA would never repeat except with identical twins... And I will not take any responsibility for any trouble my other me's get into or cause... Well, while in your current iteration of yourself you see the world in a subjective lens of your own individuality separate to the world around you although you are a part of it. This is the nature of our ego, and there is nothing wrong with that as it is what defines our personality in the subjective paradox. The ego is what gives us our unique identity as a person in the world who is an individual and unique. In the fractal nature of this Universe all life is unique, it's self-similar but still unique just like snowflakes. An ant is still part of it's colony but separate and individual from it. A cell is still a part of your body, but still separate and individual within it. You are parts of your mother and father through their exchange of DNA but still separate from them. There is an interconnectedness in all things and a separation from it. It is our ego that can keep us from experiencing more than just our subjective lives. Ego death, or the letting go of the ego aspect of the self ie in having egoless selflessness is where you may open up to other interfaces of life, but that is more for practitioners of consciousness than those how share no interest in such things. In the thread of life as you are distributed into past/present/future and probability you have a unique sojourn into the human experience and certainly there is no expectation that each of our threads of self are required to experience every life in every perspective of every moment of time, this is why it's fractal and you have your own destiny, you own story and your own uniqueness of experiences. People present the Egg as the concept that we are eternally all cycling through every single life here, that's not quite true because in self-similar patterns regardless of complexity the opportunity for growth becomes diminished so new patterns are often sought and you'll be the one seeking new experiences when that time comes. There is a lot more out there than Earth and we are not limited to just being here although we are here now locked-in to our body, but that's the point. To live a life and be yourself through that body as you see fit. Life on Earth does have an evolutionary quality as you accumulate experiences and in my view there is what I call a graduate life from the human experience when you have obtained enough experience that repeating through lifetimes here offers you no more growth, so you'll move on. One of the perspectives that I faced is the knowing that all life here already exists here so my own integration into life as self-awareness took place in non-locality where a mandella fractal portal opened up and the color full fractal nodes of information was the datastream to this reality. What is encoded in that datastream is this life's story... but a datastream none-the-less. A perspective I find very few here have but I was very conscious and aware through that process post-entry into this lifetime from the last one I lived where I died from a bullet in the head during WWI. I always say it was that bullet in the head from my last life that woke me up in this one as I went through the entire process, met the being of light, went through the second-death and saw the ego death of my former self and how all that is set-aside for the new life. A process we have all undergone to be here no matter what meat-suit we wear. It's self-similar but often forgotten hence why it's called the second-death or mind-wipe. Very, very efficient... surviving it into the next even if just fragments is something I feel has great value so I encourage it, and preparation for it because it's inevitability. |
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User ID: 80882194 United States 08/09/2022 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This isn't a real spirituality thread until MM has weighed in about spaceships and her 5 billion incarnations mixed in with some pudding and applesauce demention... And this is why we can't have nice things. |
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User ID: 79662918 United States 08/09/2022 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Brief... I am actually a we... I am a multiple... You funny though... but yeah can OP chime in... this was really aimed at them... my bad shoulda' made it known... lol In my rule book, there's only He, She, and it...Looks like you're It! I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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User ID: 79662918 United States 08/09/2022 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If possibilities are infinite, then anything that can happen will happen, and it will happen an infinite number of times. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83608992 I don't buy it. Nor I, because that means my mini-me's have done horrible things and i can't accept that... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83988370 United States 08/09/2022 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you lock a pet in a room it paces back and forth and wants to get out and explore. Humans are no different, we pace back and forth GROUNDED on this planet. Explain how are we to evolve into a better physical being for the next life if we cannot stretch our legs further than planet Earth. |
YouAreDreaming
(OP) User ID: 65871117 Canada 08/09/2022 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don’t like the Chinese or Darkies of any kind Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83963675 Do you think that means I was probably both at some point? I am loath to even imagine but having read Rudolph Steiner entire back catalogue( which is no mean feat) I have come to the conclusion that the wheel of karma will not let me off. You'll find out. It is all encoded within you, the issue is access to non-local information while stuck here in the immersion of your current self. While here you likely cannot access those memories because the nature of immersion has become so intense and ridged. Largely because we don't teach each other to be open to skills of self-edification that let us learn from within as everything here is all about the external world, not your own inner-cosmos. This is an issue of information boundaries and working on stitching back together fragmented memories of self that have become forgotten and that isn't an easy task but once achieved it's like any knowing, you gained it back because you worked for it an earned it. You did the work. Work no one else but you can do. That's how it is for us all. How it worked for me, may be self-similar or different it's that wacky fractal uniqueness of experience we all contend with. In my past-life I met with a being of light that lead me through the process. I had very acute memories observing the layers, the process and the lead-up to the second-death which IMO was much more terrifying to me than the first death. The stripping of the personality that I thought I was, that cleaning of the slate so to speak is a very traumatic experience (at least for me in that life). Not a fan... do wish to avoid it if I can after this. Suffice to say, I did get to see the processes and dragged lots of fragments down the tunnel it formed leading into this life which in the end only gave me PTSD as a child and confused my mother when I tried to describe this all to her. However, when I went down the tunnel and opened my new eyes, I closed them and went right back to the being of light and protested my being sent back which encoded memory in the infant brain (thank-fully) so that blessing or curse allowed me to struggle with the new identity with mishmashed fragments of my former self until it let go at the age of 5. However, I never forgot that I returned to this being of light from that experience. And at the age of 15 I got big into lucid dreaming which lead to recognizing many of the layers and perspectives I had when I went through the process in the first place. At the age of 17, I decided to try to return to this being of light once my body was asleep and I was fully-self aware in that space we call dreaming. I just focused on it, returned to it and this time instead of being in conflict with it, I simply asked it why it sent me back to this life from the other one. It replied, what makes you think that was your only other life, and it connected me to an over-view of lifetimes that I had forgotten. Including the very first one. Very intense but also a huge relief because at my perspective here leading from childhood until 17 I always thought my last-life was absolutely obliterated and deleted forever as experience. All this did was show me that it was only set aside as to not influence the current life, and yes... lots of lives of different races, even different sex, even insect and animal. An accumulation of life-experiences in my participation here, not a big deal because not having the ego present the review was entirely non-judgemental but I did see how my choices in each life impacted what came next, there is certainly that which we tend to call the karmic wheel. So to get that memory, I already had an existing perspective earned from retaining some memory in this life and I acted on those experiences from my own curiosity as no one here literally gave any interest nor knew anything about it. Ergo, we do our own homework to get to the meat of the bone. And that is what self-edification is all about. Working with, not against your true-self. |
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(OP) User ID: 65871117 Canada 08/09/2022 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I thought I was being longwinded...I will leave the death of my ego to, well death...I like who I am, the nearly half century of real living experience, not just watching life go by...I Carpe Diem the shit out of life... Quoting: BRIEF Whatever comes next will take care of itself... Like a drop of water returning to the ocean of yourself. |
BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 08/09/2022 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I thought I was being longwinded...I will leave the death of my ego to, well death...I like who I am, the nearly half century of real living experience, not just watching life go by...I Carpe Diem the shit out of life... Quoting: BRIEF Whatever comes next will take care of itself... Like a drop of water returning to the ocean of yourself. I hope my brain is not damaged when I die, from whatever it is that's going to squish me...I want the DMT experience... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
YouAreDreaming
(OP) User ID: 65871117 Canada 08/09/2022 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fascinating information. Where did you get this information from? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73612679 Some of it came with me along for this ride, other parts of it came from direct-experience and most of it came from interacting once again with the being of light that kicked my ass back into this world for yet another life. I spent quite a lot of time from the age of 17-24 working with it as it seemed to have answers for every question I could ever ask and none-of-it was local to what I was learning here by a large margin. A lot of the language however is simply chosen based on what word best describes the experience as language often doesn't exist for a lot of non-local experiences so we sound a bid weird describing other realms and worlds to people who think all there is, is the fishbowl called Earth and only one life to live. |
CopyNinja87
User ID: 76525449 United States 08/09/2022 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you have to say is reincarnation exists. All that mumbo jumbo copy pasted. Jesus. |