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If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?

 
FivelCubed

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If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
If China or Russia attack the US this year or next, how would they do it? What strategies would they use? What weapons? What would be the primary targets? What kind of risks of failure or retaliation would they be watching out for?
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
If I were Russia I would take Alaska.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
If I were Russia I would take Alaska.
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But I would wait for the USA to get involved with the China Taiwan scuffle first.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
I'm asking because it seems my other thread was plagued with people who had no intention of reading past the thread title and just wanted to share their thoughts about how a China/Russia v USA War would go. Most of the posts were very dumb and would not have been posted if they had read the OP. However, some of the posts were rather good and persuasive, giving me more avenues to ponder.

So, let's use this thread to try to get into the minds of Russia/China and predict what their moves will be. Same goes for the US - let's try to predict the blow-by-blow in the potential coming war.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
Hundreds of soft teams lighting bush and forest fires to tie up resources. Fast boats to attach mines to oil rigs in the gulf, and pipelines exploding all over the country. Civic leaders, police chiefs, business leaders on assassination lists. Release of more pathogens in the population, thousands of bot accounts creating strife on social media and making it seem like the USA is going to have a civil war. Drag the us military into conflicts all over the world and wear them out.

Havoc, chaos, etc. let the USA year itself apart. I’d start that 1-2 years before any real shots get fired.

Seems likes it’s underway actually
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
The cabal want a China/Russia dominated world, because it would mean a more authoritarian world and would lower the material standard of living in the West significantly, which they believe is too high at the moment to be sustainable.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
the first thing they'd do is find several corrupt politicians
to buy off. then they'd leapfrog them over each other into
power until they ran Congress and the Presidency.

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They know how weak we are right now and that this current government won't counterattack in any meaningful way. They could probably get away with whatever they want.
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In this day and age, it all has to start with destroying targeting satellites.

From space? From sea? Are they really capable?
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
They wouldn't because attacking first means fighting all of NATO and as we see now Russia sucks.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
Speed the fracture of nato and the EU. It seems like Hungary and Turkey are fast tracking that.

Use subs to cut undersea cables

Use gps and cell phone jammers all over the us and Europe

Blow up see real huge satellites in orbit to cause a cascading reaction to destroy all satellites.

Destroy all atomic time keeping stations which will bring down the internet

That’s just off the top of my head.
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08/08/2022 06:31 PM

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They wouldn't because attacking first means fighting all of NATO and as we see now Russia sucks.
 Quoting: ^Mike


Theoretically, that is true. Never know what decisions nations will make when their obligations to the treaty come due though, especially if they have been significantly weakened already. Most NATO nations are in Europe, which has the potential to be significantly weakened by Russia's influence on energy, food and fertilizer. Who knows how bad a state they'll be in this winter or the following year? It could be bad enough that they'll basically just surrender to Russia's terms.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
They don't.

Any attempt and they will be met with force never seen on this planet. I don't think you understand.

The U.S. hasn't won any wars in the last 50 years because they didn't want to. They wanted to create destabilization in the region so corporations could take resources.

If attacked the U.S. military is MORE than capable of handling those two militaries combined.

People always say we haven't shown in the Iraq or Afgan wars. Lol.

We could level that entire country in a matter of minutes if we needed to. Then there wouldn't be anything of value left.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
Speed the fracture of nato and the EU. It seems like Hungary and Turkey are fast tracking that.

Use subs to cut undersea cables

Use gps and cell phone jammers all over the us and Europe

Blow up see real huge satellites in orbit to cause a cascading reaction to destroy all satellites.

Destroy all atomic time keeping stations which will bring down the internet

That’s just off the top of my head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83807282


You don't think the U.S. GB and the rest of NATO have contingencies in place and monitoring?

Think again.

Anything that Vladdy and Xi have you can be sure GB and U.S./Israel have 10X better and more advanced.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
They don't.

Any attempt and they will be met with force never seen on this planet. I don't think you understand.

The U.S. hasn't won any wars in the last 50 years because they didn't want to. They wanted to create destabilization in the region so corporations could take resources.

If attacked the U.S. military is MORE than capable of handling those two militaries combined.

People always say we haven't shown in the Iraq or Afgan wars. Lol.

We could level that entire country in a matter of minutes if we needed to. Then there wouldn't be anything of value left.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78361643


No, there's likely no way for them to win in a conventional war. We believe that and so do Russia/China. Given that they believe they would lose in a conventional war, their playbooks probably contain a lot of unconventional methods. The question is, which unconventional methods will they use if/when they decide to attack, and how efficient would their battle plan be?
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
They wait for the mandated Clotshot to kick in.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
Hundreds of soft teams lighting bush and forest fires to tie up resources. Fast boats to attach mines to oil rigs in the gulf, and pipelines exploding all over the country. Civic leaders, police chiefs, business leaders on assassination lists. Release of more pathogens in the population, thousands of bot accounts creating strife on social media and making it seem like the USA is going to have a civil war. Drag the us military into conflicts all over the world and wear them out.

Havoc, chaos, etc. let the USA year itself apart. I’d start that 1-2 years before any real shots get fired.

Seems likes it’s underway actually
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83807282


I suspect a lot of the things on your list are in their playbooks. Some are possibly already being employed. The only thing I think they wouldn't do is release real pathogens, unless they're sure they already have close to 100% protection from the pathogens and their potential variants.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
They wait for the mandated Clotshot to kick in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43071997


Seems they will have a long wait. That's mostly FUD. I don't think it's really doing any of what people claim here. Probably less than 1% of the vaccinated are getting sick from it.

Personally I will never take it but it doesn't seem to be dangerous in the short term.... Ten years from now? Maybe. Who knows.

Not something that is planned by Russia or China. Even if the U.S. military was only operating at 25% they could still put a major hurting on either of those countries with out using Nukes. They know it too.

Plus the U.S. has a MASSIVE amount of fighting aged individuals to pull from for a draft.

Everyone says that young people couldn't handle it.

If we go to war they won't have a fucking choice. That's always been the case with the young entering a draft. They didn't want to but the had to and you either get used to it real quick or you die.

The truth is there are many on this board that want to see the U.S. fail. Many of them are jaded. Some of them are actual foreign agents.

Be Careful.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
Speed the fracture of nato and the EU. It seems like Hungary and Turkey are fast tracking that.

Use subs to cut undersea cables

Use gps and cell phone jammers all over the us and Europe

Blow up see real huge satellites in orbit to cause a cascading reaction to destroy all satellites.

Destroy all atomic time keeping stations which will bring down the internet

That’s just off the top of my head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83807282


You don't think the U.S. GB and the rest of NATO have contingencies in place and monitoring?

Think again.

Anything that Vladdy and Xi have you can be sure GB and U.S./Israel have 10X better and more advanced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78361643


Don't be too sure about the west being 10x more advanced/prepared. Unless all nations are following a script, the recent moves and threats by Russia and China seem to indicate they think they have an ace in the hole.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
Speed the fracture of nato and the EU. It seems like Hungary and Turkey are fast tracking that.

Use subs to cut undersea cables

Use gps and cell phone jammers all over the us and Europe

Blow up see real huge satellites in orbit to cause a cascading reaction to destroy all satellites.

Destroy all atomic time keeping stations which will bring down the internet

That’s just off the top of my head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83807282


You don't think the U.S. GB and the rest of NATO have contingencies in place and monitoring?

Think again.

Anything that Vladdy and Xi have you can be sure GB and U.S./Israel have 10X better and more advanced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78361643


Don't be too sure about the west being 10x more advanced/prepared. Unless all nations are following a script, the recent moves and threats by Russia and China seem to indicate they think they have an ace in the hole.
 Quoting: FivelCubed


How so? Just cause you say they are making moves doesn't mean anything.

You think the U.S. isn't making moves? LMAO.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
First they would try undermining us socially dividing us by race, religion and politics. They would support socialist leaning politicians and leaders.
They would spread their influence in those nations who had supported democracy buying into their infrastructures.
They may try to weaken their enemies with biological attack then provoking confrontations till they are in a position of strength. Taking back control of their former spheres of influence will give them resources for their final solution.
A massive first strike against us with advance weapons we have little defense against. Taking out leadership and defense forces of the US alone. Knowing our allies will hesitate rather than destroying the planet for life.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
Speed the fracture of nato and the EU. It seems like Hungary and Turkey are fast tracking that.

Use subs to cut undersea cables

Use gps and cell phone jammers all over the us and Europe

Blow up see real huge satellites in orbit to cause a cascading reaction to destroy all satellites.

Destroy all atomic time keeping stations which will bring down the internet

That’s just off the top of my head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83807282


You don't think the U.S. GB and the rest of NATO have contingencies in place and monitoring?

Think again.

Anything that Vladdy and Xi have you can be sure GB and U.S./Israel have 10X better and more advanced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78361643


Don't be too sure about the west being 10x more advanced/prepared. Unless all nations are following a script, the recent moves and threats by Russia and China seem to indicate they think they have an ace in the hole.
 Quoting: FivelCubed


How so? Just cause you say they are making moves doesn't mean anything.

You think the U.S. isn't making moves? LMAO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79465715


Where in any of what I said could you possibly infer I was saying the US is not making moves?

Russia and China clearly feel emboldened to be more demanding on the world stage right now, especially with a Biden administration at the helm of the US.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
They would make Trump president again. This would cause everyone in Washington to lose their minds.
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They would make Trump president again. This would cause everyone in Washington to lose their minds.
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That's something I see as a real possibility. Not just as a strategic headfake for the direction our nation and world is headed in, but also potentially a fulfillment of some prophecies (depending on interpretation of those prophecies), which seem to be happening a lot lately - force-fulfilled or not.
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Is having the FBI raid Mar-A-Lago part of a China/Russia plan? A lot could come from this event.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
They wait for the mandated Clotshot to kick in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43071997


I've thought the same thing. Last year when they were mandating the clot shot that destroys non-Covid immunity to the military, it came to me this is how China could make enough of our fighting population combat ineffective.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
The Russian spies have discovered where the nuclear warehouses are in America. When the Americans will think that it is peace and safety - from the middle of the country, some of the people will start fighting against the government. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then from the ocean, from Cuba, Nicaragua, Mexico,..." (He told me two other countries, but I didn't remember what they were.) "...they will bomb the nuclear warehouses. When they explode, America will burn!"
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
They wait for the mandated Clotshot to kick in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43071997


I've thought the same thing. Last year when they were mandating the clot shot that destroys non-Covid immunity to the military, it came to me this is how China could make enough of our fighting population combat ineffective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83566365


That's very true. Word on the web is that many militarily members are being deployed and called back to duty after retirement. Might have to do with upcoming militarily actions, or might have to do with not enough people for current missions, due to the clotshot murders.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
Russia would probably go through Alaska and china would go through mexico or something.
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
If China or Russia attack the US this year or next, how would they do it? What strategies would they use? What weapons? What would be the primary targets? What kind of risks of failure or retaliation would they be watching out for?
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Re: If China/Russia attacks the US militarily, how would they do it?
no need to attack.

All china has to do is to collect on their debt owned and stop importing good to the US.

This will really fuck the US. Since we can't produce anything right now.





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