Have you gone off of statins? If so, please come on in, I've some questions

Fuck no. Who do you think that you are telling other people what to do with their health?

I just found out today that one of the side effects of taking statins is muscle mass loss....heh, and I have been wondering for over a half a year why my muscle mass has significantly reduced.

Now, my cardio PA - a lovely lady - has told me I'll be on statins the rest of my life, that I could possibly get off of the BP med, but not the statin.

Now that I have a good idea of why I've had this muscle loss, I'm going off of it....fuck me, it's making me physically weak, and I can't have that.

And I don't doubt it's due to the statins, because looking back I can certainly see the correlational between beginning the statin, and the onset of the muscle loss.

Lawdy, and my simvastatin dose was recently increased, too....

I made an appt today to see my cardio PA about going off of it, but I know a bit of a fight is going to happen. She and I have already discussed it. She's insistent I'm going to be on it the rest of my life. I'm hoping youse guyses can give me some answers, and I can avoid a confrontation with her.


So, my questions are--


Is this a drug I should cut back on slowly, over time? Or can I just stop it cold turkey?

I don't want to throw my body into any kind of a crisis.

If you've taken statins, has it reduced your muscle mass?

If you went off the statins, were you able to rebuild the muscles?.....it's not a permanent thing, right?


And please don't rip me a new asshole for even starting to take it. I was told to take them for a long time, but refused, until I had a massive heart attack, and then I coalesced. The heart attack scared the pee welling hell right outta me.

Also so you know, I did recently have a full and complete cardio workup done, including being in the cath lab. My heart is good to go. I have only one tiny artery that is 50% occluded, the stent that was put in with the heart attack is in perfect condition, and all the rest of my arteries are open and running freely.

BECAUSE my last blood test showed my cholesterol had risen, I'm questioning exactly what roll cholesterol has in clogging arteries....heh, it sure seems to me that they'd be in a lot worse shape than they are, given my cholesterol increase was shocking enough to raise the dose, eh?

Thank you for any responses....and yes, I know when a post is genuine or not, so don't no one have a concern about that, okay?

I was on statins for several years until I finally learned the negative effects. The worst one is that you can develop type 2 diabetes. My brother found that out.

There is no withdrawal. You can completely stop it with no noted effects except for higher cholesterol.

The best course of action to reduce cholesterol is to eat a proper diet. One thing particularly good for it is fresh salmon once a week. Another is niacin. Also, heavy exercise and cut out the alcohol as much as you can live with. After doing all the above, I no longer have high cholesterol. Good luck.

Cosmic,

First, please see my responses in this thread. Second, IF you are still on Statins you need to STOP TODAY!!!

These drugs are poison...I can't stress it enough...STOP NOW...TODAY.


There are SAFE alternatives, I am now on a non-statin whos generic name is Ezetimibe. Unfortunately I did not find out about how dangerous statins are until the damage had been done. If a doctor argues with you....FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR!

There is no excuse for their ignorance in 2022 about these horrible drugs and the damage they do to their patients.

I don't even know what statins are. I'm not taking any pharmaceuticals at all; haven't even been to a doctor since I can't remember when.

So I'm no help to you at all. Sorry sister.

I stopped three days ago....

I will check into the Ezetimibe. Thank you very much for the lead.

What kind of damage, and is it permanent?....I've been on it for over three years....got dammit.

I so don't want my body to remain like this....

Within two years of starting them I was diagnosed with Diabetes. I would not wish it on my worst enemy. It was unfortunately only after the diagnosis that I found out just how horrible statins are. The maddening part is the studies have been out there for doctors to review but most are lazy and didn't bother. Pretty much anything Statins can cause I have experienced.

I can't say every single person who takes them will experience what I have or whether the damage is permanent. For me, it seems I'm pretty much stuck but I have just accepted it as my way of life. I get very upset when I see someone being prescribed Statins because I know first hand what they can do. I'm glad to know you are off of them. It doesn't sound like that have done too much damage from your description You just have to move forward and count your blessings you found out before they did even more.

Considering everything I do have going on in my body, I'm pretty much a happy camper, and I attribute that to me taking very good care of myself by eating right and by taking way more supplements than I do pharma meds....

Start drinking 8 ounces of pomegranite juice per day. Scours and clears your arteries. Check into it, rather expensive which may be an issue. The most affordable that I've found is at Walmart (Great Value brand). $5 & change for 32 Ounces.

I usually eat salmon more than once a week, it's just finding it fresh and wild caught that can be difficult at times. I won't eat the farmed seafood.

Alcohol I've all but cut out this year. I've had one six pack of IPA this year, and I'm fairly sure I won't get another one. Heh, we'd probably have to have an asteroid heading smack dab our way in order for me to get another one. I didn't really even enjoy it.

I'm ordering the niacin and vit C w/lysine, and the cod liver oil next week!....

Heavy exercise is going to be difficult for me, but I am back on my trampoline. I have bone on bone in my right knee, and my breathing is challenged when exerting myself, due to this lung disease.... I am going to be doing the best I can with the exercising....kwap, and as well the osteoarthritis I have everywhere makes it difficult, too.

I'm trying to get down to two cigs a day, but it's so hard....pfht, and I used to be an addiction's counselor. I can't even help myself with my own addiction.


Getting older, the body breaking down, really does suck big donkey balls....

CG, do you eat pork? If so, try going a month, or a couple of weeks at least without it. It is probably the worst thing still considered food that you can put in your body.

If you eat it now and stop for a month, you will be pleasantly surprised with the benefits that accrue, I assure you.

Rarely. I've had a package of bacon in my freezer for about six months now. The last package I had open, I had to throw half of it away because it spoiled.

On GLP last year I learned that the US is the only country in the entire world that allows a particular chemical to be added to pork products. All the other countries IN THE ENTIRE WORLD have banned it, because it's a poison to the human body.

It's kinda hard to eat it after learning that, ya know?

I did buy a package of baby back ribs for July 4th. They did sound good at the time, but they're still sitting in my fridge. I'm not quite sure yet what I'm going to do with those.


....gawd, I hate wasting food....but that's what we get in this country, wasted food, right off the shelf, served up as FRESH and WHOLESOME to us....the cretin rat basturds.

What a fucking mess this country is in.....

Yes, that additive is ractopamine, and is not only given to pigs, but to cattle and turkeys, as well, to create more lean muscle mass in them. It’s not used in chicken or fish, nor in any organic meat.

Always keep in mind that they want us dead.

Let’s make it difficult for them to do so.

Yes, that additive is ractopamine, and is not only given to pigs, but to cattle and turkeys, as well, to create more lean muscle mass in them. It’s not used in chicken or fish, nor in any organic meat.

Always keep in mind that they want us dead.

Let’s make it difficult for them to do so.

To add:

This little tidbit from Wikipedia:

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“ The metabolic fate of ractopamine hydrochloride is similar in the target species (pigs and cattle), laboratory animals, and humans. Besides the pharmacology effect, ractopamine may cause intoxication effect; therefore, any consumption by humans of a meat and/or byproducts of animals that consumed ractopamine with feed for growth stimulation, may result in such clinical effects as tachycardia and other heart rate increases, tremor, headache, muscle spasm, or high arterial blood pressure.[58] The effect of ractopamine on humans is not entirely known, but consumption of products that contain ractopamine residues is not advisable for persons with cardiovascular diseases.

Well, then. Not good. Not good at all.

Aye!.....


Beef and pork are just about all the way out of my diet. I do get taken in by the beloved Swiss Bacon burger occasionally, but it's getting less and less that I'm enjoying those. They taste really good, but my body tells me "Bish....you f'n bish" through its reaction to that burger coming down my pie hole. Every once in awhile I'll have a 1/4 lb filet of beef lil steak, but the cost of that is right outta this world.

It's getting to the point I just about can't eat chicken anymore, because....I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO IT, BUT THEY'RE RUINING IT!

And organic chicken is so damn expensive, ffs. I get that from the reduced meats section when its available....I get most of my meat from the reduced section. It's always perfectly good, and the store I mostly go to reduces it by 40%. It's quite a savings.


But trust me, the last thing I want to do is accept that I'm in bad health, and just roll over and die.

That ain't happening....:mikeno:

Oh wow! Thank you for adding that.

Doesn't it blow you away, that every other country on the planet has banned it, and yet the US is still using it?

Heh, and I think the effect of it is actually very well known, otherwise these other countries wouldn't of banned it.

MANY countries have recently banned glysophates....and where's the US on glysophates?.....:billlaugh:

I have to get my flour from Italy, where glysophates have been banned!

Also, because I had some with my salad today, Breton gluten free crackers are pure AWESOMENESS!

They taste good, and the texture is perfectly fine. Heh, I will openly BRAG about any good tasting gluten free product that I can find, because they are nearly impossible to find.

Yeah, that ractopamine is primarily why I gave up on non-organic meat. US, Canada and Mexico all are still using it. Again, I honestly believe that they’re trying to kill as many of us as possible, or possibly in addition to that, that the regulators are getting paid off and simply self-justify their actions, this allowing their greed to overcome their humanity.

Gluten never bothered me, thankfully, and I still tolerate dairy just fine at my advanced age (northern Euro genetics, so have the enzymes to deal with it). Even so, glad to see that there are more and more gluten-free products available today.

If it weren't for the lung disease, I wouldn't have a problem with dairy, too.

But my guidance was basically kwaping a brick the end of last year because I was still drinking milk, which is unusual for them to guide me about the food I'm putting in my mouth....heh, I pretty much already know what's good and what's bad, regardless of whether or not I eat it.

It's just milk produces mucous, and I have noticed I'm definitely coughing up more of that in the morning when I do drink milk. That's the reason my guidance was screaming - the Pink One was literally screaming at me one day - about drinking milk.

I just simply hadn't thought about it that way, about it being a mucous producer. I thought she was just being uptight about it being from a cow....DERP!

Sometimes....just sometimes, I want to punch myself to the moon, I can be such a derphead. I know my guidance never, ever leads me astray.

Of course, I didn't know about this lung disease then, so....yeah. I knew something was going on because of the CT scans I'd had, but I didn't know until recently it was a lung disease.

I can go without milk, it's just that I do love it so much. We lived in the Philippines when I was a little girl, and there was no cows milk in that country. We had powdered milk, and that's just nasty.

When my family got back from the Philippines we were going through a gallon of milk every two days, and there were only four of us.

THAT'S what developed my love for milk, and it's not easy having it go away, but I have cut waaaay back on that, too. I used to drink a gallon of milk every week all by myself. I'm down to about a half gallon a week now, and it's getting to be less and less every month.