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Have you gone off of statins? If so, please come on in, I've some questions | |
| cosmicgypsy
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 80037766  United States08/03/2022 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just found out today that one of the side effects of taking statins is muscle mass loss....heh, and I have been wondering for over a half a year why my muscle mass has significantly reduced. Now, my cardio PA - a lovely lady - has told me I'll be on statins the rest of my life, that I could possibly get off of the BP med, but not the statin. Now that I have a good idea of why I've had this muscle loss, I'm going off of it....fuck me, it's making me physically weak, and I can't have that. And I don't doubt it's due to the statins, because looking back I can certainly see the correlational between beginning the statin, and the onset of the muscle loss. Lawdy, and my simvastatin dose was recently increased, too....  I made an appt today to see my cardio PA about going off of it, but I know a bit of a fight is going to happen. She and I have already discussed it. She's insistent I'm going to be on it the rest of my life. I'm hoping youse guyses can give me some answers, and I can avoid a confrontation with her. So, my questions are-- Is this a drug I should cut back on slowly, over time? Or can I just stop it cold turkey? I don't want to throw my body into any kind of a crisis. If you've taken statins, has it reduced your muscle mass? If you went off the statins, were you able to rebuild the muscles?.....it's not a permanent thing, right? And please don't rip me a new asshole for even starting to take it. I was told to take them for a long time, but refused, until I had a massive heart attack, and then I coalesced. The heart attack scared the pee welling hell right outta me. Also so you know, I did recently have a full and complete cardio workup done, including being in the cath lab. My heart is good to go. I have only one tiny artery that is 50% occluded, the stent that was put in with the heart attack is in perfect condition, and all the rest of my arteries are open and running freely. BECAUSE my last blood test showed my cholesterol had risen, I'm questioning exactly what roll cholesterol has in clogging arteries....heh, it sure seems to me that they'd be in a lot worse shape than they are, given my cholesterol increase was shocking enough to raise the dose, eh? Thank you for any responses....and yes, I know when a post is genuine or not, so don't no one have a concern about that, okay? You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States08/03/2022 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean, I've been wondering today if our bodies increase in cholesterol production as we get older, because our brains need it more then?....  You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83946828 United States08/03/2022 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can’t and won’t give you any medical advice, as I am not a physician, but I will relate my experience with statins. Doctor wanted me to take statins years ago, but every statin that I was put on (there are 4 types or brands) resulted in my shortly thereafter experiencing peripheral neuropathy; that is, numbness and tingling in the extremities. I stopped taking each one as soon as symptoms appeared, and my doctor agreed that I was in the approximately 10% of patients who have this reaction to this class of drugs. My cholesterol is not great, but my life is in the hands of Jesus so I don’t sweat the numbers. Fast forward to a couple of years ago, and I came across a study that determined that statin usage greatly increases the risk of Type II diabetes. Here is one item on this issue, although a web search for “statins and diabetes” will bring up hundreds more: Study uncovers why statins increase diabetes risk and offers solution [link to www.medicalnewstoday.com (secure)] Apparently the reason I was experiencing peripheral neuropathy was because the statin drugs were, in effect, starting to give me diabetes. How nice. Anyway, just my experience with statins. |
| pish
Turtle Hermit User ID: 80956893 United States08/03/2022 07:53 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They gave me a lot of pills, so I was able to slowly get off them. First every other day for about two weeks, then three days for a couple and then just quit. They made me extremely fatigued, and I had read they weren’t good for Covid, so I made the decision to stop. My energy levels popped up immediately and I just adjusted my diet, and started to do more cardio/exercise. My blood pressure (why I was taking them) dropped close to normal levels, and my cholesterol numbers are good now too. They told me the same thing you said...you’ll be taking them for the rest of your life...Like HELL I am! They say this becuase making life changes is not something most normal people can do/tolerate without something bad happening first to scare them into changing it. I was looking for an excuse to get healthier, so actually followed through with diet/exercise changes since Covid hit...have lost a lot of weight and feel great. I eventually noticed I was feeling “down” after awhile, and it was due to me still taking some BP medication, and realized my BP was now too low LoL...so I titrated myself off those too. My doctor was “Baffled” when my BP and cholesterol were all within normal range again. He said to call if I think I needed the meds again..haha NOPE, not happening. Always remember these words: Work hard, study well, and eat and sleep plenty! That is the Turtle Hermit way! We must master the art of peace in addition to the art of war! |
| Pilgrim001
User ID: 82713236 United States08/03/2022 08:14 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SUDDENLY everyone has a cholesterol problem. We made it all those years, and suddenly, we discover that GOD or Evilution made a mistake and screwed up on Cholesterol. BullShit. They tried over and over to get me to take statins but I just tell them NO. It's almost as big a scam as the Federal Reserve, but not as big as the Jab. Your brain needs the cholesterol and probably your whole body needs cholesterol. Once a co-worker got off the phone at lunchtime and was crying because her doctor said her cholesterol was too high. She was eating celery and carrots for snacks on breaks. There wasn't an ounce of fat on her. I said Fuck that. I saw an ambulance take the old lady that lived across my street to the hospital. She weighed about 85lb and her severe fat free diet had caused her intestines to bind up. I don't trust the medical community for the Truth about anything, because they really don't know. Last Edited by Bennder on 08/03/2022 08:15 PM I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
| Pilgrim001
User ID: 82713236 United States08/03/2022 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | about 5% of people are possibly salt sensitive and might raise their BP a small amount. Most people ARE NOT salt sensitive and it's all bullshit. If you really want to lower your cholesterol, just go vegan and your cholesterol number will fall. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
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| cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States08/03/2022 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can’t and won’t give you any medical advice, as I am not a physician, but I will relate my experience with statins. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83946828 Doctor wanted me to take statins years ago, but every statin that I was put on (there are 4 types or brands) resulted in my shortly thereafter experiencing peripheral neuropathy; that is, numbness and tingling in the extremities. I stopped taking each one as soon as symptoms appeared, and my doctor agreed that I was in the approximately 10% of patients who have this reaction to this class of drugs. My cholesterol is not great, but my life is in the hands of Jesus so I don’t sweat the numbers. Fast forward to a couple of years ago, and I came across a study that determined that statin usage greatly increases the risk of Type II diabetes. Here is one item on this issue, although a web search for “statins and diabetes” will bring up hundreds more: Study uncovers why statins increase diabetes risk and offers solution [link to www.medicalnewstoday.com (secure)] Apparently the reason I was experiencing peripheral neuropathy was because the statin drugs were, in effect, starting to give me diabetes. How nice. Anyway, just my experience with statins. Yes, I know youse guyses aren't doctors, but you do have life experience, and that's what I'm looking for. Very interesting that my last blood test showed I was in Diabetes II range (120, I think), and I had never been there before AND I had cut sugar out completely, and was using sugar replacement. I asked my doc how is this happening? I was upset, because my sugar levels should've been shiny and pretty like they always were before, ya know? He told me he didn't know, it can just happen when we get older....  That is not a good enough answer for me. I mean, I'm a paradoxical metabolizer of a lot of pharma products - finding the right BP was tricky, and I can't even take beta blockers - but I doubt maca fruit or allulose are one those things my body will flip on. So, it's the statin....THANK YOU, lovey! I never would've known. Another mystery solved, and another good reason to go off of it. Three good reasons now....my body's strength, my sugar levels, and my brain. Heh, those are all very important things to quality of life. I mean, had of my cath lab results of been sticky and icky, then I prolly would have to think about this a bit harder, but they weren't, they were basically good....my heart is right in line with my age group health-wise. Thank you for sharing your experience....  You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83946828 United States08/03/2022 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can’t and won’t give you any medical advice, as I am not a physician, but I will relate my experience with statins. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83946828 Doctor wanted me to take statins years ago, but every statin that I was put on (there are 4 types or brands) resulted in my shortly thereafter experiencing peripheral neuropathy; that is, numbness and tingling in the extremities. I stopped taking each one as soon as symptoms appeared, and my doctor agreed that I was in the approximately 10% of patients who have this reaction to this class of drugs. My cholesterol is not great, but my life is in the hands of Jesus so I don’t sweat the numbers. Fast forward to a couple of years ago, and I came across a study that determined that statin usage greatly increases the risk of Type II diabetes. Here is one item on this issue, although a web search for “statins and diabetes” will bring up hundreds more: Study uncovers why statins increase diabetes risk and offers solution [link to www.medicalnewstoday.com (secure)] Apparently the reason I was experiencing peripheral neuropathy was because the statin drugs were, in effect, starting to give me diabetes. How nice. Anyway, just my experience with statins. Yes, I know youse guyses aren't doctors, but you do have life experience, and that's what I'm looking for. Very interesting that my last blood test showed I was in Diabetes II range (120, I think), and I had never been there before AND I had cut sugar out completely, and was using sugar replacement. I asked my doc how is this happening? I was upset, because my sugar levels should've been shiny and pretty like they always were before, ya know? He told me he didn't know, it can just happen when we get older.... That is not a good enough answer for me. I mean, I'm a paradoxical metabolizer of a lot of pharma products - finding the right BP was tricky, and I can't even take beta blockers - but I doubt maca fruit or allulose are one those things my body will flip on. So, it's the statin....THANK YOU, lovey! I never would've known. Another mystery solved, and another good reason to go off of it. Three good reasons now....my body's strength, my sugar levels, and my brain. Heh, those are all very important things to quality of life. I mean, had of my cath lab results of been sticky and icky, then I prolly would have to think about this a bit harder, but they weren't, they were basically good....my heart is right in line with my age group health-wise. Thank you for sharing your experience....:send: You are most welcome, dear Cosmic Gypsy!  Best of fortune on your journey to better health! |
| cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States08/03/2022 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SUDDENLY everyone has a cholesterol problem. We made it all those years, and suddenly, we discover that GOD or Evilution made a mistake and screwed up on Cholesterol. BullShit. Quoting: Pilgrim001 They tried over and over to get me to take statins but I just tell them NO. It's almost as big a scam as the Federal Reserve, but not as big as the Jab. Your brain needs the cholesterol and probably your whole body needs cholesterol. Once a co-worker got off the phone at lunchtime and was crying because her doctor said her cholesterol was too high. She was eating celery and carrots for snacks on breaks. There wasn't an ounce of fat on her. I said Fuck that. I saw an ambulance take the old lady that lived across my street to the hospital. She weighed about 85lb and her severe fat free diet had caused her intestines to bind up. I don't trust the medical community for the Truth about anything, because they really don't know. Seriously, I've been eating better than I have my entire life. A massive heart attack and 11 bowel obstructions will do that for a soul....heh, it'll whip ya right up into shape (or so I thought). I take all kinds of awesome supplements. But I didn't and don't understand this sugar level raise, unless it's the statin....I mean, I've really been beside myself about it. It was so not understandable until just now. I've even cut back quite a bit on my smoking cigs....thank gawd for the patches. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Quarterbreedgal
User ID: 17390604 United States08/03/2022 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quarterbreedgal...one quarter Cherokee, descended from the Mackenzie Highlanders in Scotland. Ill speak the truth no matter how much red I get. All that matters anyway is TRUTH and LOVE...oh and DOGS!! |
| Panther Dove
User ID: 59743414 United States08/03/2022 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this a drug I should cut back on slowly, over time? Or can I just stop it cold turkey? Quoting: cosmicgypsy I just stopped cold turkey. My inner alarms were going off after taking it about 6 months. "Here it's free, your gov't made this rx free" (during O administration). Remember that saying "If it's free, you are the product". It's not just the freebee issue, I was reminded of all the hubbub about one of the statins killing folks to death to where those lawyer commercials were on tv every other commercial break. I don't know if you should stop cold turkey. I stopped smoking cold turkey after 30 years so perhaps I have the sort of "constitution" for that type thing. BUT here is something I learned that should give you an edge with your doctor: Niacin. It has proven to reduce the bad cholesterol and increase the good cholesterol! Extended-release niacin for modifying the lipoprotein profile [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] I found all this out when my insurance kept "insisting" I take a statin. Not my doctor, not of my own volition but my insurance was having a hissy for me to take the free statin. They insisted once, twice and then finally wrote my doctor a letter "insisting". So I got a lil suspicious. So I began to research and found out about Niaspan and pushed for that prescription. The niacin I take is "Niacin 500 mg ER Tablets" substituted for "Niaspan 500 mg ER Tablets". I take one pill before bed so there is no notable flushing experience. The meds are $30.67 every month. It is on my insurance formulary but they really would rather I take the statin so the niacin is placed in "tier 4" rx, meaning, I pay a good bit more for it than the freebee. Sorry for the novel, hope this helps you and others. Freedom is not: doing everything you want to. Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do. |
| cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States08/03/2022 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just take the statins and listen to your doctor. You had a fuckng night heart attack! I’m on atorvistatin. I work out calisthenics daily so my muscles mass is good. No issues. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80095797 I couldn't take that one, although I'm not remembering why. Getting on the right meds after the heart attack was a nightmare, but that was one I was taken off of. What I need to do is get that strap thingy on my knee - bone on bone in my right knee - and get back on my exercise trampoline. It's kickass cardio exercise, and it's easier on my arthritic joints than pounding the pavement. The first time I saw this Internist he advised me to exercise vigorously. I told him about the bone on bone in my knee and arthritis, and that I used a trampoline. He outright scoffed at it, telling me that it's going to do nothing for my heart health. I mean, have you seen the work out videos for trampolines? These young women are huffing and puffing after about 15 minutes. I'm embarrassed at the length of time I can keep it up on one. I almost stopped seeing him then and there. Seriously, he doesn't know that a work out on a trampoline is great for a body?.... But I do need to exercise more....so I'm going to. Thank you.... You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States08/03/2022 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What kind of people take pills without doing some research first?? You just blindly trusted your doctor? High cholesterol is a fucking scam ..any idiot can find that out with two minutes of research. Take your flu shot every year too? Rockefeller medicine isn't here to cure or help you. It's here to profit from your suffering...even if it's imaginary. Quoting: Quarterbreedgal Oh please, I'm no dummy. I refused it for a long time, like I've already said. Have you had a massive heart attack? If not, then shut the fuck up. And no, I don't take vaccines. My gawd, but you're condescending, and I'm just looking for advice....  You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Panther Dove
User ID: 59743414 United States08/03/2022 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SUDDENLY everyone has a cholesterol problem. We made it all those years, and suddenly, we discover that GOD or Evilution made a mistake and screwed up on Cholesterol. BullShit. Quoting: Pilgrim001 I tend to agree with this statement. Used to, I think, the high limit was 1000, now down to 200-ish (what number they freak out at I believe depends on other contributing factors such as metabolic syndrome etc). Seems that in some cases, they just moved the goalpost and created a problem. I have some nerve issues so I could not for the life of me understand why conventional medicine would expect that stripping cholesterol out of me and off my myelin sheath(s) would be a good idea. This was another reason I got off the statin. Freedom is not: doing everything you want to. Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do. |
| scimitar
User ID: 72217289 United States08/03/2022 09:03 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Later on another one told in a much less demanding way that he thought I should take them, so I gave his way a try. I was never able to take any statins. They would suck every ounce of energy out of me and I would crash and burn for most of the day. Tried three different types all were a no go. Each time I immediately felt great within 2 days of stopping. The doctor then said... well I guess your cholesterol is not that high... 180 Last Edited by scimitar on 08/03/2022 09:03 PM Ominous regressions One Truth... many realities |
| cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States08/03/2022 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this a drug I should cut back on slowly, over time? Or can I just stop it cold turkey? Quoting: cosmicgypsy I just stopped cold turkey. My inner alarms were going off after taking it about 6 months. "Here it's free, your gov't made this rx free" (during O administration). Remember that saying "If it's free, you are the product". It's not just the freebee issue, I was reminded of all the hubbub about one of the statins killing folks to death to where those lawyer commercials were on tv every other commercial break. I don't know if you should stop cold turkey. I stopped smoking cold turkey after 30 years so perhaps I have the sort of "constitution" for that type thing. BUT here is something I learned that should give you an edge with your doctor: Niacin. It has proven to reduce the bad cholesterol and increase the good cholesterol! Extended-release niacin for modifying the lipoprotein profile [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] I found all this out when my insurance kept "insisting" I take a statin. Not my doctor, not of my own volition but my insurance was having a hissy for me to take the free statin. They insisted once, twice and then finally wrote my doctor a letter "insisting". So I got a lil suspicious. So I began to research and found out about Niaspan and pushed for that prescription. The niacin I take is "Niacin 500 mg ER Tablets" substituted for "Niaspan 500 mg ER Tablets". I take one pill before bed so there is no notable flushing experience. The meds are $30.67 every month. It is on my insurance formulary but they really would rather I take the statin so the niacin is placed in "tier 4" rx, meaning, I pay a good bit more for it than the freebee. Sorry for the novel, hope this helps you and others. Yeah, I read some about niacin earlier today....well, and before. Another supplement. I'm just about tapped out on the cost of my supplements for each month....but I'm going to order it. I'm going to go ahead and back off it a bit slowly, like over about two weeks, and I'll start taking some niacin, too....well, now that I've looked at my multivitamin, it has 50 mg of niacin in it, and my stomach can only handle a half dose of these vitamins a day. 500 mg? Really? I'm going to have to look into it more, but thank you very much for the name of something that has worked for you!.... You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| DEY HATE ME
User ID: 80868823 United States08/03/2022 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Total cholesterol number is bullshit, it's the ratio of good to bad that matters. My total cholesterol has always been near or over 300, and they have been trying to put me on statins for over 40 years! Each year my doctor tells me that my risk of dying is increasing, and I say, "With each year so is yours." The more I know, the crazier I appear to be. "THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL WITH AN UNFREE WORLD IS TO BECOME SO ABSOLUTELY FREE THAT YOUR VERY EXISTENCE IS AN ACT OF REBELLION" -ALBERT CAMUS No brains, no pain. The Difference Between Stupidity and Genius Is That Genius Has Its Limits |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83866844 United States08/03/2022 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a BOATLOAD of information on the ridiculous assumptions and conclusions concerning "healthy cholesterol levels." There is a BOATLOAD of information on how to regulate one's health through proper diet, nutrition, and supplements. I left a budding career in cardiology over the shitshow that has become western institutionalized medicine.... particularly concerning the money and health scam that is cholesterol medication and blood regulation. Stay the F away from them. And stay the F away from western medical practitioners. You are your own best keeper. |
| cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States08/03/2022 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A cardiologist I went to years ago told me I really needed them. This was based off a single un-contrasted MRI... no previous MRIs. He said no matter what other measures I took he would still insist on statins... So I told him GOODBYE. Quoting: scimitar Later on another one told in a much less demanding way that he thought I should take them, so I gave his way a try. I was never able to take any statins. They would suck every ounce of energy out of me and I would crash and burn for most of the day. Tried three different types all were a no go. Each time I immediately felt great within 2 days of stopping. The doctor then said... well I guess your cholesterol is not that high... 180 They're so funny, like....  I only take three pharma drugs, but it's soon going to be two. The simvastatin, losartin (BP med), and a muscle relaxer. I take all of these at night before bed, so I don't know if the statin makes me lethargic....but now that you've mentioned it, I think that was why I was taken off that other statin, because something was sucking the life outta me. The beta blocker was having me feeling like I was HAVING a heart attack....  I have noticed a change in my brain, though, but I don't know how to explain that, except I don't like it. It's just different from before. I thought it was just because I was getting older, but perhaps it's because the cholesterol is being stripped away, and it'll get better after I go off of it. I hope so. Thank you for your reply, lovey.... You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Panther Dove
User ID: 59743414 United States08/03/2022 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, I read some about niacin earlier today....well, and before. Quoting: cosmicgypsy Another supplement. I'm just about tapped out on the cost of my supplements for each month....but I'm going to order it. I'm going to go ahead and back off it a bit slowly, like over about two weeks, and I'll start taking some niacin, too....well, now that I've looked at my multivitamin, it has 50 mg of niacin in it, and my stomach can only handle a half dose of these vitamins a day. 500 mg? Really? I'm going to have to look into it more, but thank you very much for the name of something that has worked for you!.... Oh yeah I forgot to tell you to get a "coronary calcium" test, it shows if your arteries (valves, whatever) are clogged. My test came back a zero. That is another way to get them to (sort of) stop insisting. Look up "Endur-acin" on Amaz, it has been tested against niaspan inside the NIH and found to be comparable. My cholesterol is beautiful after about 4 months of taking the nightly niacin. No more pesky insistors! Like I said, I can't speak to your constitution but this 500 mg is not fat-soluble so you should just pee out what your body does not need. Take it at night to adjust to any flushing you may experience, I experienced none at all. Be Blessed! Freedom is not: doing everything you want to. Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do. |
| cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States08/03/2022 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Total cholesterol number is bullshit, it's the ratio of good to bad that matters. My total cholesterol has always been near or over 300, and they have been trying to put me on statins for over 40 years! Quoting: DEY HATE ME Each year my doctor tells me that my risk of dying is increasing, and I say, "With each year so is yours." Yeah, my HDL is high too, so that's good. Sometimes I think standardized tests are not that good, ya know? We're all individuals. And thanks for the line, I'm going to be using that one!....  You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States08/03/2022 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, I read some about niacin earlier today....well, and before. Quoting: cosmicgypsy Another supplement. I'm just about tapped out on the cost of my supplements for each month....but I'm going to order it. I'm going to go ahead and back off it a bit slowly, like over about two weeks, and I'll start taking some niacin, too....well, now that I've looked at my multivitamin, it has 50 mg of niacin in it, and my stomach can only handle a half dose of these vitamins a day. 500 mg? Really? I'm going to have to look into it more, but thank you very much for the name of something that has worked for you!.... Oh yeah I forgot to tell you to get a "coronary calcium" test, it shows if your arteries (valves, whatever) are clogged. My test came back a zero. That is another way to get them to (sort of) stop insisting. Look up "Endur-acin" on Amaz, it has been tested against niaspan inside the NIH and found to be comparable. My cholesterol is beautiful after about 4 months of taking the nightly niacin. No more pesky insistors! Like I said, I can't speak to your constitution but this 500 mg is not fat-soluble so you should just pee out what your body does not need. Take it at night to adjust to any flushing you may experience, I experienced none at all. Be Blessed! Lovey, I was in the cath lab. They went INTO my heart to check the arteries. I have one tiny artery 50% occluded, and the rest are clear and good. They couldn't stent the artery, because it has to be 75% occluded before they'll do that....got dammit. Heh, I sat and argued with my cardio PA about me wanting a stent, and her telling me I don't want a stent. Back and forth we went. I'd rather they put one in, than wait to have another heart attack....although it probably wouldn't be as bad as the other one. My main artery was 100% occluded....it was really bad, lol. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States08/03/2022 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a BOATLOAD of information on the nasty side effects of statins. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83866844 There is a BOATLOAD of information on the ridiculous assumptions and conclusions concerning "healthy cholesterol levels." There is a BOATLOAD of information on how to regulate one's health through proper diet, nutrition, and supplements. I left a budding career in cardiology over the shitshow that has become western institutionalized medicine.... particularly concerning the money and health scam that is cholesterol medication and blood regulation. Stay the F away from them. And stay the F away from western medical practitioners. You are your own best keeper. Considering everything I do have going on in my body, I'm pretty much a happy camper, and I attribute that to me taking very good care of myself by eating right and by taking way more supplements than I do pharma meds....  You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States08/03/2022 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  .....Thank you youse guyses for sharing your experiences. I feel better about going forward now.... You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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| cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States08/03/2022 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Statins are poison. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81899863 Why can't you get off them? My dad did, and his quality of life improved greatly! I am taking myself off them, lovey.... You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Jannicke
User ID: 77020799 United States08/03/2022 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mom was on statins for years. I always told her to get off of them, but she had a bi-pass and her surgeon said she had to be on them life long, too. Then, we all got covid last Feb. My mom's turned into covid pneumonia and she passed away. My daughter in law is an ICU nurse and she told me that they see so many people on statins that come in with covid, and the nurses know they wont be going home. I am a firm believer that we are SUPPOSED to have higher cholesterol as we age. Study on that yourself. |
| Panther Dove
User ID: 59743414 United States08/03/2022 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found some calculations on my old labs and notes that may be helpful if you have access to your lab results: HDL/Total Cholesterol x 100 = ? Should be 24% + Triglyceride/HDL = ? Should be -2 Notes to ponder: LDL = "Low density lipoprotein" = "bad" HDL = "High density lipoprotein" = "healthy" VLDL = "very low density lipoprotein" ~Need to preserve HDL ~Low levels of HDL are much more predictive of heart disease than high levels of LDL ~Cholesterol is used by the body in cellular repair in cell walls and also used to make certain hormones. ~VLDL increases in response to fasting!! (Can anyone confirm this?!) ~80% of the cholesterol in our blood is generated by the liver ~Niacin is effective at reducing triglycerides but fails to reduce heart disease. Niacin increases HDL. Freedom is not: doing everything you want to. Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do. |
