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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73649866 United States 07/25/2022 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Alan in Season 1 ate a lot of kelp. He also mentioned collecting Hemlock bark at one point (edible cambium layer). For the last two comments. I am not vegan nor suggesting the show do vegan or vegetarian. I'm only say there is MUCH MORE in the forest besides meat and they ignore this. But I understand why. People aren't educated to the proper plants and mushrooms to eat in general and that's pathetically sad. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80683328 I saw seasons 1,6,7 and I thought the same thing. There was a guy in Season 6 boiling Reindeer moss and saying there's tons of it, but we never got to see how far that resource went for him. Lichenin is a prebiotic (like inulin or cellodextrin) but it will give you energy/calories. Roland in S7 found a huge area of Fireweed and said, "I'll pick 100 lb of fireweed root if I have to. That's my backup plan." But we never got see anything more on that. According to Red-It, contestants have stated on AMAs and YouTube that 95% of their footage including foraging and food successess gets ignored & left out of the final edit. I think History channel wants to maintain a starvation drama, etc, and it's not really meant to be educational. - In theory (at least), you could always ferment leaves/twig shavings the same way rabbits/horses/non-ruminant herbivores do (but at thermophilic temperatures to be safe). |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80683328 United States 07/25/2022 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is right on one thing - they've changed the narrative of the show to emphasize the killing of animals to procure food. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568 Like everything today - it's all about the long term agenda, which in this case is to demonize people who eat meat. So the show depicts the dying grouse and the beaver with the arrow in it to get people mad and upset. I watch the show - it's one of the few things I watch on TV anymore because it shows REAL LIFE. Veganism is not real life - it is a fake life made possible by modern contrivances like "soy milk" and impossible burgers. TPTB don't want you eating meat because it is part of a healthy diet. Once again I'm not saying meat should be avoided. I think if they added mushrooms and berries in heavy quantities...in addition to meat would be a better strategy. But that's not promoted on the show. |
Captain Cosmos
User ID: 80185305 United States 07/25/2022 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is right on one thing - they've changed the narrative of the show to emphasize the killing of animals to procure food. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568 Like everything today - it's all about the long term agenda, which in this case is to demonize people who eat meat. So the show depicts the dying grouse and the beaver with the arrow in it to get people mad and upset. I watch the show - it's one of the few things I watch on TV anymore because it shows REAL LIFE. Veganism is not real life - it is a fake life made possible by modern contrivances like "soy milk" and impossible burgers. TPTB don't want you eating meat because it is part of a healthy diet. Once again I'm not saying meat should be avoided. I think if they added mushrooms and berries in heavy quantities...in addition to meat would be a better strategy. But that's not promoted on the show. What's the risk vs reward? How many calories will you get vs. calories expended? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80683328 United States 07/25/2022 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is right on one thing - they've changed the narrative of the show to emphasize the killing of animals to procure food. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568 Like everything today - it's all about the long term agenda, which in this case is to demonize people who eat meat. So the show depicts the dying grouse and the beaver with the arrow in it to get people mad and upset. I watch the show - it's one of the few things I watch on TV anymore because it shows REAL LIFE. Veganism is not real life - it is a fake life made possible by modern contrivances like "soy milk" and impossible burgers. TPTB don't want you eating meat because it is part of a healthy diet. Once again I'm not saying meat should be avoided. I think if they added mushrooms and berries in heavy quantities...in addition to meat would be a better strategy. But that's not promoted on the show. What's the risk vs reward? How many calories will you get vs. calories expended? You are already looking for meat right? It doesn't hurt to add some fireweed, mushrooms, and some dandelion greens to your meat stew. Then you grab some berries for dessert and hopefully put some back for winter. |
Captain Cosmos
User ID: 80185305 United States 07/25/2022 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is right on one thing - they've changed the narrative of the show to emphasize the killing of animals to procure food. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568 Like everything today - it's all about the long term agenda, which in this case is to demonize people who eat meat. So the show depicts the dying grouse and the beaver with the arrow in it to get people mad and upset. I watch the show - it's one of the few things I watch on TV anymore because it shows REAL LIFE. Veganism is not real life - it is a fake life made possible by modern contrivances like "soy milk" and impossible burgers. TPTB don't want you eating meat because it is part of a healthy diet. Once again I'm not saying meat should be avoided. I think if they added mushrooms and berries in heavy quantities...in addition to meat would be a better strategy. But that's not promoted on the show. What's the risk vs reward? How many calories will you get vs. calories expended? You are already looking for meat right? It doesn't hurt to add some fireweed, mushrooms, and some dandelion greens to your meat stew. Then you grab some berries for dessert and hopefully put some back for winter. Yeah, it doesn't hurt if you have some extra time. But now we've come around full circle to an omnivorous diet. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80683328 United States 07/25/2022 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80683328 Once again I'm not saying meat should be avoided. I think if they added mushrooms and berries in heavy quantities...in addition to meat would be a better strategy. But that's not promoted on the show. What's the risk vs reward? How many calories will you get vs. calories expended? You are already looking for meat right? It doesn't hurt to add some fireweed, mushrooms, and some dandelion greens to your meat stew. Then you grab some berries for dessert and hopefully put some back for winter. Yeah, it doesn't hurt if you have some extra time. But now we've come around full circle to an omnivorous diet. Do you really think people ate meat every single day before just in time delivery? Absolutely impossible. The daily meat diet is not how we lived for thousands of years. |
MarPep
User ID: 57869963 United States 07/25/2022 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you ever even watched the show? Quoting: themessengernevermatters None of them are surviving on just meat. They are slowly starving to death while eating meat, berries, kelp, lichen and etc. Watching that show really shows the value of carbs like starchy vegetables and grains with their so called empty calories. If any of them had a bag of potatoes to eat with their beaver, squirrel and etc, they wouldn't be starving to death. That is why every culture going back to the primitive hunter gatherers on this planet have some form of carbs to supplement their hunting and gathering. ^^^THIS^^^ There are some edible mushrooms there on occasion, and sea-weed, and a few berries---but nobody makes it past 2-3 weeks if they don't get some form of meat. The ones (3) who manage to kill a large game animal (Moose, muskox, deer) have won their competition. The hunting is all bow/arrow; the fishing is with hook and line, or occasionally with a small net. Nobody gets to buy carbs at the local grocery---because there isn't one in a hundred miles or so. Nobody gets to harvest a garden they found in the wilderness. OP actually needs to watch several years of episodes before making such comments. _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80683328 United States 07/25/2022 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you ever even watched the show? Quoting: themessengernevermatters None of them are surviving on just meat. They are slowly starving to death while eating meat, berries, kelp, lichen and etc. Watching that show really shows the value of carbs like starchy vegetables and grains with their so called empty calories. If any of them had a bag of potatoes to eat with their beaver, squirrel and etc, they wouldn't be starving to death. That is why every culture going back to the primitive hunter gatherers on this planet have some form of carbs to supplement their hunting and gathering. ^^^THIS^^^ There are some edible mushrooms there on occasion, and sea-weed, and a few berries---but nobody makes it past 2-3 weeks if they don't get some form of meat. The ones (3) who manage to kill a large game animal (Moose, muskox, deer) have won their competition. The hunting is all bow/arrow; the fishing is with hook and line, or occasionally with a small net. Nobody gets to buy carbs at the local grocery---because there isn't one in a hundred miles or so. Nobody gets to harvest a garden they found in the wilderness. OP actually needs to watch several years of episodes before making such comments. I have watched several years and you still don't get the point. You can eat meat and lots of other things too. That's all I'm saying. They act like it's only meat or your face dead. |
Captain Cosmos
User ID: 80185305 United States 07/25/2022 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Captain Cosmos What's the risk vs reward? How many calories will you get vs. calories expended? You are already looking for meat right? It doesn't hurt to add some fireweed, mushrooms, and some dandelion greens to your meat stew. Then you grab some berries for dessert and hopefully put some back for winter. Yeah, it doesn't hurt if you have some extra time. But now we've come around full circle to an omnivorous diet. Do you really think people ate meat every single day before just in time delivery? Absolutely impossible. The daily meat diet is not how we lived for thousands of years. More believable than people eating a vegan diet outside of extremely specifics biomes or before Whole Foods existed. |
MarPep
User ID: 57869963 United States 07/25/2022 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Captain Cosmos What's the risk vs reward? How many calories will you get vs. calories expended? You are already looking for meat right? It doesn't hurt to add some fireweed, mushrooms, and some dandelion greens to your meat stew. Then you grab some berries for dessert and hopefully put some back for winter. Yeah, it doesn't hurt if you have some extra time. But now we've come around full circle to an omnivorous diet. Do you really think people ate meat every single day before just in time delivery? Absolutely impossible. The daily meat diet is not how we lived for thousands of years. The races that lived in the tropics didn't have to survive on meat alone. The races that evolved in the temperate zones had to be good hunters to survive--until they developed herding of animals and farming, they would not survive winter except on meat killed or scavenged. _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82179201 United States 07/25/2022 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80683328 You are already looking for meat right? It doesn't hurt to add some fireweed, mushrooms, and some dandelion greens to your meat stew. Then you grab some berries for dessert and hopefully put some back for winter. Yeah, it doesn't hurt if you have some extra time. But now we've come around full circle to an omnivorous diet. Do you really think people ate meat every single day before just in time delivery? Absolutely impossible. The daily meat diet is not how we lived for thousands of years. The races that lived in the tropics didn't have to survive on meat alone. The races that evolved in the temperate zones had to be good hunters to survive--until they developed herding of animals and farming, they would not survive winter except on meat killed or scavenged. Exactly. We evolved as omnivores for good reason. We are highly adaptable creatures. However, one thing is for sure, we need fat, whether from plants or animals. "Omnivores are defined as generalized feeders. They are neither carnivores nor herbivores. They have specializations adapted for acquiring, consuming, and processing food consisting of both animal protein and vegetation. McArdle further defines omnivores as essentially *opportunistic* feeders; they survive by eating what is available. They have more generalized anatomical and physiological traits. Human dentition (teeth) is one such trait. It indicates that the human diet is, by nature, omnivorous and not herbivore as the diet would include meat. Nevertheless, humans are not required to consume animal protein. It’s a matter of choice." |
TheEmptyChild
User ID: 83078924 United States 07/25/2022 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The show does NOT say you can only survive on meat. They actually talk about a type of starvation that can happen when you ONLY eat protein and meat. So...yeah, OP...not even close. They always show people foraging on that show...until winter comes and they can't forage any more. They have guys drying mushrooms in the season I am watching so I'm not sure where you are getting this. |
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User ID: 82190276 United States 08/05/2022 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you know which ones are eatable & which ones are not! Quoting: Justthefacts12345 We have been reminded constantly, just how dangerous it is to eat something in the forest. Not saying it's true, just saying they have brainwashed us from birth! Why would you think it's not true??? How could 8 billion people on earth not discover if it was safe to eat random shit in the forest? |
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User ID: 79679709 08/05/2022 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for posting that. This is my point. It can and has been done. Yes you'll feel better perhaps with your meat but you wouldn't die. We can live for a very long time without a single slice of meat. Surviving on a tropical island without meat would be easy. Don't forget that ALONE is always taped going into brutal winters, every single season. Who does your thinking? |
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