The show ALONE is history channel propaganda...They say you can only survive with meat. | |
Captain Cosmos
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Justthefacts12345
User ID: 82824711 United States 07/25/2022 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you know which ones are eatable & which ones are not! We have been reminded constantly, just how dangerous it is to eat something in the forest. Not saying it's true, just saying they have brainwashed us from birth! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80683328 United States 07/25/2022 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In a survival situation, meat is a much more dense calorie and fat-dense resource than any vegetable or fruit. There is a reason our ancestors were hunter-gatherers rather than just gatherers. Quoting: Captain Cosmos My point is you can do both all day. You can hunt and forage. But they only focus on the meat and act like you would die without it. Foraging is the secret weapon to ultimate success. |
Captain Cosmos
User ID: 80185305 United States 07/25/2022 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In a survival situation, meat is a much more dense calorie and fat-dense resource than any vegetable or fruit. There is a reason our ancestors were hunter-gatherers rather than just gatherers. Quoting: Captain Cosmos My point is you can do both all day. You can hunt and forage. But they only focus on the meat and act like you would die without it. Foraging is the secret weapon to ultimate success. Yes, humans are omnivores. Does this surprise you? |
Stumpknocker
User ID: 83885459 United States 07/25/2022 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...and fat. Actually, it did cause me to rethink some preps. We have a lot of vegetable oils, I have now moved totally to lard. Plus, I think the whole food pyramid and everything associated with it is a lie. My wife has started using lard in recipes that call for vegetable oil and guess what...I have lost 16 lbs, eating the exact same stuff, over the last 3 months. "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you've earned, but not greed to want to take somebody else's money"-- Thomas Sowell The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing! |
themessengernevermatters
User ID: 80117407 United States 07/25/2022 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you ever even watched the show? None of them are surviving on just meat. They are slowly starving to death while eating meat, berries, kelp, lichen and etc. Watching that show really shows the value of carbs like starchy vegetables and grains with their so called empty calories. If any of them had a bag of potatoes to eat with their beaver, squirrel and etc, they wouldn't be starving to death. That is why every culture going back to the primitive hunter gatherers on this planet have some form of carbs to supplement their hunting and gathering. “The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.” Elena Gorokhova, A Mountain of Crumbs |
FivelCubed
User ID: 77710388 United States 07/25/2022 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not bashing meat here but it's simply not true. I am vegetarian at the moment but if I needed to eat meat again I have the skills and tools to get meat. However, in the new season 9 you see mushrooms everywhere. Nobody picks mushrooms yet they are all expert woodsfolk? Quoting: cozita 80683328 I would be picking and drying them daily not to mention eating fresh every meal. They make it seem impossible to live off the land and pump fear at every turn. They don't want average folks thinking you can survive out there. Mushrooms and berries are so abundant here right now you could never starve. You can't eat mushrooms every day without hurting your stomach and causing digestion issues. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80683328 United States 07/25/2022 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you know which ones are eatable & which ones are not! Quoting: Justthefacts12345 We have been reminded constantly, just how dangerous it is to eat something in the forest. Not saying it's true, just saying they have brainwashed us from birth! Yes I know them all and it takes years of practice and study. I have 20 large ball jars of dried mushrooms in my pantry. And I'm about to get 20 more. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83864881 Canada 07/25/2022 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are evolving into light beings where we wont need such dense food. Flesh is very heavy and there is karma from taking an animals life. With eating plants, or fungi like mushrooms, you dont kill the organism. Some plants want to be eaten, like fruit trees, so that their seeds are spread far and wide in the poop. You could say they have domesticated us. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80683328 United States 07/25/2022 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In a survival situation, meat is a much more dense calorie and fat-dense resource than any vegetable or fruit. There is a reason our ancestors were hunter-gatherers rather than just gatherers. Quoting: Captain Cosmos My point is you can do both all day. You can hunt and forage. But they only focus on the meat and act like you would die without it. Foraging is the secret weapon to ultimate success. Yes, humans are omnivores. Does this surprise you? The show doesn't portray this very well. They focus on only meat. |
Captain Cosmos
User ID: 80185305 United States 07/25/2022 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In a survival situation, meat is a much more dense calorie and fat-dense resource than any vegetable or fruit. There is a reason our ancestors were hunter-gatherers rather than just gatherers. Quoting: Captain Cosmos My point is you can do both all day. You can hunt and forage. But they only focus on the meat and act like you would die without it. Foraging is the secret weapon to ultimate success. Yes, humans are omnivores. Does this surprise you? The show doesn't portray this very well. They focus on only meat. Well, life for a vegan survivalist would be very very hard, borderline impossible in most biomes. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80683328 United States 07/25/2022 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not bashing meat here but it's simply not true. I am vegetarian at the moment but if I needed to eat meat again I have the skills and tools to get meat. However, in the new season 9 you see mushrooms everywhere. Nobody picks mushrooms yet they are all expert woodsfolk? Quoting: cozita 80683328 I would be picking and drying them daily not to mention eating fresh every meal. They make it seem impossible to live off the land and pump fear at every turn. They don't want average folks thinking you can survive out there. Mushrooms and berries are so abundant here right now you could never starve. You can't eat mushrooms every day without hurting your stomach and causing digestion issues. Where did you hear this? I do eat them every day with other foods. I never have any digestive issues. They do make you poop a little more because many are laxatives but that's okay with me. They are super food and medicine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72812090 United States 07/25/2022 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not bashing meat here but it's simply not true. I am vegetarian at the moment but if I needed to eat meat again I have the skills and tools to get meat. However, in the new season 9 you see mushrooms everywhere. Nobody picks mushrooms yet they are all expert woodsfolk? Quoting: cozita 80683328 I would be picking and drying them daily not to mention eating fresh every meal. They make it seem impossible to live off the land and pump fear at every turn. They don't want average folks thinking you can survive out there. Mushrooms and berries are so abundant here right now you could never starve. Yes, to survive, you must be the omnivore you are suppose to be but it may be for liability reasons... Many survival type shows do not go into foraging wild plants for the simple fact that if you don't know what you are doing you can poison yourself and that goes double for mushrooms... Chris McCandlis thought he could survive foraging but one of the things that killed him in the end was mistaking the wrong plant... The show's don't want someone thinking they will imulate the expert and sue the show when they poison themselves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78722335 United States 07/25/2022 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not bashing meat here but it's simply not true. I am vegetarian at the moment but if I needed to eat meat again I have the skills and tools to get meat. However, in the new season 9 you see mushrooms everywhere. Nobody picks mushrooms yet they are all expert woodsfolk? Quoting: cozita 80683328 I would be picking and drying them daily not to mention eating fresh every meal. They make it seem impossible to live off the land and pump fear at every turn. They don't want average folks thinking you can survive out there. Mushrooms and berries are so abundant here right now you could never starve. You can't eat mushrooms every day without hurting your stomach and causing digestion issues. Where did you hear this? I do eat them every day with other foods. I never have any digestive issues. They do make you poop a little more because many are laxatives but that's okay with me. They are super food and medicine. Become the first vegan survivalist to win the show then my friend. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72530568 Canada 07/25/2022 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife and I were talking about the Alone show the other day. We suggested they make a 'Vegan-Only' season. The vegans would last about 10 days before they cried for mercy. Yes, there are berries and mushrooms. You'd eat them all within a mile walk radius after about 4 days. You should try it sometime - go camping and leave all your food behind. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80683328 United States 07/25/2022 03:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the last two comments. I am not vegan nor suggesting the show do vegan or vegetarian. I'm only say there is MUCH MORE in the forest besides meat and they ignore this. But I understand why. People aren't educated to the proper plants and mushrooms to eat in general and that's pathetically sad. |
Google_It
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80683328 United States 07/25/2022 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife and I were talking about the Alone show the other day. We suggested they make a 'Vegan-Only' season. The vegans would last about 10 days before they cried for mercy. Yes, there are berries and mushrooms. You'd eat them all within a mile walk radius after about 4 days. You should try it sometime - go camping and leave all your food behind. You obviously don't live in the woods. I could never pick all the berries and mushrooms within 4 miles from my house. I picked a quart jar of raspberries yesterday in 5 minutes in my immediate neighborhood. I could pick 200 pounds of mushrooms easily right now. The woods are more abundant then you think. Especially when it's raining. |
Captain Cosmos
User ID: 80185305 United States 07/25/2022 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the last two comments. I am not vegan nor suggesting the show do vegan or vegetarian. I'm only say there is MUCH MORE in the forest besides meat and they ignore this. But I understand why. People aren't educated to the proper plants and mushrooms to eat in general and that's pathetically sad. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80683328 So how calorie dense is the most nutritious mushroom/berry? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83891849 United States 07/25/2022 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rather difficult to obtain enough calories in the wild without meat! Lewis & Clark men ate 5-7 pounds of meat each, daily as they walked, rode horses, poled boats across the North American continent. When wild game was scarce they purchased dogs to eat from Native Americans. They kept good records, 35 or so dogs! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83891849 United States 07/25/2022 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rather difficult to obtain enough calories in the wild without meat! Lewis & Clark men ate 5-7 pounds of meat each, daily as they walked, rode horses, poled boats across the North American continent. When wild game was scarce they purchased dogs to eat from Native Americans. They kept good records, 35 or so dogs! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81756182 United States 07/25/2022 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not bashing meat here but it's simply not true. I am vegetarian at the moment but if I needed to eat meat again I have the skills and tools to get meat. However, in the new season 9 you see mushrooms everywhere. Nobody picks mushrooms yet they are all expert woodsfolk? Quoting: cozita 80683328 I would be picking and drying them daily not to mention eating fresh every meal. They make it seem impossible to live off the land and pump fear at every turn. They don't want average folks thinking you can survive out there. Mushrooms and berries are so abundant here right now you could never starve. If you don't eat some of the wildlife then the wildlife is going to beat you to those mushrooms anyway. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83698768 United States 07/25/2022 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In a survival situation, meat is a much more dense calorie and fat-dense resource than any vegetable or fruit. There is a reason our ancestors were hunter-gatherers rather than just gatherers. Quoting: Captain Cosmos My point is you can do both all day. You can hunt and forage. But they only focus on the meat and act like you would die without it. Foraging is the secret weapon to ultimate success. You must have missed the previous seasons where contestants that couldn't get meat were losing too much weight and didn't make it. I have seen them gather berries and mushrooms all the time but that only lasts for so long and are not rich in calories. Especially as they prepare for winter, meat is important but the most important is fat, not meat. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80683328 United States 07/25/2022 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the last two comments. I am not vegan nor suggesting the show do vegan or vegetarian. I'm only say there is MUCH MORE in the forest besides meat and they ignore this. But I understand why. People aren't educated to the proper plants and mushrooms to eat in general and that's pathetically sad. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80683328 So how calorie dense is the most nutritious mushroom/berry? You could fill up easily on just mushrooms and berries. You people are way too coddled to meat. Wait until restaurants and grocery stores stop having it. Good luck. I have the skills to go years without meat and thrive. I would eat it only if I had to. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80683328 United States 07/25/2022 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In a survival situation, meat is a much more dense calorie and fat-dense resource than any vegetable or fruit. There is a reason our ancestors were hunter-gatherers rather than just gatherers. Quoting: Captain Cosmos My point is you can do both all day. You can hunt and forage. But they only focus on the meat and act like you would die without it. Foraging is the secret weapon to ultimate success. You must have missed the previous seasons where contestants that couldn't get meat were losing too much weight and didn't make it. I have seen them gather berries and mushrooms all the time but that only lasts for so long and are not rich in calories. Especially as they prepare for winter, meat is important but the most important is fat, not meat. I have seen all episodes since 2017. You're correct though the fat is most important. One bear could give you enough fat to survive the win no problem. |