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Fellow Christians, the children of God vs the children of Satan. Beware of this knowledge.

 
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Fellow Christians, the children of God vs the children of Satan. Beware of this knowledge.
Synopsis: you're either of God or Satan, it was already determined.

A little while back Jesus showed me a verse and questioned me whether I believe it or not. He does that to get me to wake up to what he's trying to show me. The key phrase is "children of the devil" (Matthew 13:38). When I said I believe it, and him, then he opened my eyes and the truth of the Bible began to shine much more clearly.

Here's what Jesus said, the parable, and then the explanation of it:

St. Matthew 13:24-30
Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

St. Matthew 13:36-43
Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but THE TARES ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE WICKED ONE. The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

In the same world grow up children of God and children of Satan. I'll try to help you wrap your head around it, may Jesus give you understanding.

Vessels of honor and dishonor.

2 Timothy 2:19-21
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

Romans 9:21-23
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

Let's just get these scriptures fresh in you working together.

St. John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

In the world are born people who belong to Satan. They cannot ever convert and be saved, never. They are all wolves. On the other hand are born the children of God, they can convert and be saved, they are all sheep. All of the scriptures are written to the sheep of God, not the wolves. Here, I'll prove it. These are written about Jesus' sheep and not his sheep AND wolves:

St. John 3:14-18
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him SHOULD NOT perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him SHOULD NOT perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him MIGHT be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Here is OT scripture written to his people, children of the promise, who COULD BE saved, all growing up together in the sheep pen known as the Promised Land:

Ezekiel 18:31-32
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel? For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.

That is not TO or about the unbelievers. Nothing of the Bible is written to the unbelievers, there is no hope for them, sad but true.

Ezekiel 33:10-11
Therefore, O thou son of man, speak unto the house of Israel; Thus ye speak, saying, If our transgressions and our sins be upon us, and we pine away in them, how should we then live? Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Who can believe in Jesus? Whoever he calls to believe in him! Remember those wolves? Remember Judas? Jesus willfully calls wolves to believe in him knowing full well they cannot convert and be saved. They are wolves in sheep's clothing, they look like a Christian (I guess), they seem like one, they sound like one, they know the Bible, they quote scripture, they profess Jesus is God and their Lord and Savior, but it's a kid of Satan. Maybe you can't believe it now, can't handle it now, but simmer on it, I've met people who have already been shown children of Satan. I was surprised because that's some heavy stuff to be knowing about someone.

Here's why Christians cannot see it. In part because they are not ready yet, because Jesus didn't open their eyes, and because they don't believe scripture. Christians are too busy being hopeful that everyone can be saved that they are denying the truth of scripture. They believe everyone can be saved and not that there are children of the devil sown into the world who are vessels made for destruction. The reason why they're not ready yet is because 2 reasons, you absolutely NEED to have hope in the salvation of the next person you walk past in order to go talk to them about Jesus, even knowing there are many people who cannot be saved. The second reason is that most people will treat those who they believe to be children of Satan with iniquity, that is, less than themselves, by what they say and what they do to them, thereby putting themselves in jeopardy. I think that is why in the OT the Jewels hated the unbelievers so much because they knew they could not convert and be saved, so they were looked at as sub-human.

Now, they are human, and not robots, they have thoughts and feelings and emotions, but they belong to Satan, they are owned by him, and if you're a sheep then they hate you, they worship Satan, and as you can see from the latest Matrix movie and one other recent movie which escapes me now, they will sacrifice themselves for the cause of Satan and his plans, even killing themselves by vaxx mark of the beast and then those who didn't die will go on behaving as if nothing happened, nothing is wrong. Satan uses them to garner sympathy because most sheep think those people could be saved, but truth is they just don't care about God one way or another. There are components missing from them, like sincerity, belief, faith, fear of God, all which are gifts given by Jesus anyways so what do the children of God have to boast about? Nothing.

Now onto the final point. What about King Manasseh, the most wicked King of Judah who did all sorts of evil things but then in prison in Babylon repented and was forgiven by the Lord? What about Nebuchadnezzar who repented and declared that Jesus is God, who I believe is saved, after all the evil he did? What if you or I accused them of being a child of Satan while they were doing those things? Well, there is safety in scripture, namely these:

1 John 3:1-16
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous. Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

Specifically, if the person claims to be a believer but acts like one of Satan's buddies then they do belong to Satan. It's that simple. If they act like Satan, they ARE satan. So while you could accuse someone of being of Satan who later repents, I highly recommend that you try to avoid accusing and blaming altogether. Recently after knowing this I became increasingly angered towards fake Christians and I got punished big time for it. I had to forgive some people in my heart and let go of accusing and blaming. I don't want to be that person. Sure I'm aware of lots of evil that you are as well but you will not want to go the way of Cain, way of anger, especially since it is a command of Jesus not to. Please open this my other thread in another tab and read it after:
Thread: Fellow Christians, I went the way of Cain and here's what happened (and, how to get your heart right with God)

I recommend that you read that scripture above from 1 John as many times as you need to fully grasp it. If someone claims to be a believer but does not do the truth, then that one is of Satan. Why? Because if they work evil NOW, and they die NOW, then they will be judged and destroyed for their evil works they are doing NOW.

Here's a super easy test to determine if someone is a child of God. Have they been fully immersed water baptized? If not, you probably recognize Satan speaking through them from time to time, I do, a lot! But not the baptized ones. How lazy or greedy or evil or slow or ignorant or incontinent or proud or busy or whatever does someone have to be to not get water baptized in the same manner as their God who commanded them to be baptized in order to enter into heaven? They can't even take step 1 of obedience? LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU. Paul is no deceiver, he said he didn't come to baptize but to preach, and was glad he didn't baptize many, but that doesn't mean that he didn't oversee the baptism of thousands. I think self-willed, self-serving Christians think, Well, If Paul didn't think it seem necessary then I won't either. THEY ARE DECEIVED by the stumbling block of their own pride. Jesus said LET THIS BAPTISM BE TO FULFILL ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS. If you want to be fully righteous in the eyes of Jesus you need to be water baptized. That means all your family members who died who justified not doing it are probably in jeopardy, because they couldn't even have someone baptize them in the name of Jesus Christ in 70+ years. This is why Jesus said that whosever believes in him SHOULD NOT perish because some sheep are just going to keep running to darkness no matter what, or justifying not obeying the Lord. They shouldn't perish with the unbelievers, the children of Satan, but unfortunately some are going to. If there is a way that it be excused... I don't see how... What's wrong with believers?

Who do you think inspired me and authorized me to let you know these things? My God Jesus Christ, because tough times are right around the corner, and your death, and the end of the world. Time's running out.

If you are a Satanist, witch, you know, just an evil person, or not, whoever you are, I highly recommend that if you can repent, if you truly TRULY believe in your heart of hearts, your spiritual heart, that Jesus Christ is God, your God, or want to accept him, do it now, just TRY to go all in for your sake because there's no coming back from hell and eternal death. I'm telling you if you are actually a sheep of his, he will forgive you of ALL abominable things, all evil things you've ever said and done (except blasphemy against his Holy Ghost), but you still need to stop being lazy and need to put in the work of salvation; get water baptized, confess your sins to the Lord, talk to him daily, declare your hatred for Satan and all evil spirits and rebellion against the Lord and against his perfect will and commandments, ask Jesus for help overcoming the evil spirits trying to tempt you until he sets you free, usually by knowledge of a changed perspective that you're just like, oh, eh, sin? nah, not any more. And that's that. You need to get the pleasure for sin out of you. You can choose evil, stupidity, foolishness, weirdness, vexation, or you can desire to do everything exactly right as instructed by Jesus. If you belong to the Lord, may he make a way for you even now. As for those who belong to Satan, Jesus is going to smash their face in to powder on the day of Judgment, and anyone who isn't glad that God is going to punish the wicked is probably of Satan, or just twisted in their understanding of righteousness.

If a wolf in sheep's clothing continues to sin, Jesus told us to judge them and how. 1 Corinthians 5 also helps. DO NOT IGNORE RED FLAGS. STOP IGNORING RED FLAGS. STOP BEING NAIVE. YOU ARE BEING HUNTED ALREADY SPIRITUALLY, well at least stalked for now! Why fear the spirits, you have authority over them, they cannot harm you, they are just annoying, and there as part of your training.

Do you want to know what the evil is doing, or do you not want to but want Jesus protect you from it all? There has to be a balance of wanting and not wanting to know, knowing what you need to so as to not disturb your peace and love and duty to God helping others get back on track and stay on track, and not letting children of Satan deceive you and take you for a roller coaster ride. That's why I was given this awareness, because I keep looking at Christians like, why are they so off all the time? Like everything they say is almost all false, to the point I don't want to listen or read any Christian material at all because I can't not know when something being said is false. All the comfort I have is knowing that the KJV is 100% truth. Well, there are so many wolves in sheep's clothing, the churches have many of them. They are accepted even to a fault because the believers aren't obeying the Word of God. The wolves in sheep's clothing are there are tests for the true believers. The church of God is with man and in man, God with us, not in slaughter houses.

Reread 1 John 3:1-16 again!

I was waiting on this before posting and I realized that it seems like I hate people (I wasn't even going to delete many angry words which I ended up doing) when it's their allegiance to Satan and their love for evil and choosing evil that I hate, but because Jesus chooses who the wolves are, Paul also proposed the question:
Romans 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he (God) yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
Therefore there is no sense in hating anyone. It is the evil they do that is to be hated for YOURSELVES. Hating someone's evil to elevate yourself is not correct. It's a fine line between hating atrocities to hating a person or people because of them, so be careful. Hating a person or people is not the right understanding. During the days of vengeance the Lord's judgments shall not discriminate against the offenders, so beware for yourselves. Those who are lukewarm, the hypocrites, even the wolves in sheep's clothing, the disobedient, they are going to be frustrating, but you don't want to be punished as I have, or risk losing your soul for anger. Again, make sure to read that other thread about anger when it becomes a sin!

If you decide to take any stance based on what you read here, notice if there be any bias formed in you towards anyone or any people shortly after, keep checking your behaviors for changes, and if yes then you need to retract and reanalyze and restructure what you think and believe and how you see. Being aware is for your safety and well being, not to turn you into a bitter, fearful, arrogant wicked person. You should have love for others, and confidence towards Jesus, to not have to be afraid. If you start accusing and blaming, ask for help to not do that. In the other thread I quote a verse multiple times from different translations which contain these 3 sins you can confess and ask for forgiveness and deliverance from: Anger towards the brethren, making fun of the brethren, discarding the brethren.

Remember this, if you do not obey the word of God then you are disobedient against God. If you do not or will not obey the Lord God, what do you have? You're nothing, have nothing, and going back to nothing. Therefore obedience to his will must be more important than your feelings and what you think and want. If that's hard for you then ask him to help you.

Show love to the goats of Satan anyways, it is the will of God Jesus. Make sure to practice that to keep you balanced. And since most people won't see what you see or believe you, which is Jesus having exposed them to YOU, it's not going to help you any calling people out left and right for being children of Satan.

Few there be that will be saved. I can't care FOR you, only ABOUT you. You most likely will be tempted by Satan to start hating fellow believers now and you won't recognize it until you're in agony for it, just confess the things I said and ask Jesus again for a clean heart, with no evil desires and impure desires or desires not of Jesus' will. Forgive everyone you feel angry towards when you think about them until there's no more anger. If you forgive them that means you're willing to be bigger and stronger than you were to not mention what they did wrong, and let Jesus deal with them, whether he saves them or destroys them. Don't be let down at the idea that he saves them.

Peace be with you, amen.
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Good Post OP.
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They're both satan

It's been a big trick played on humanity - so these astral forces get your soul either way - either passive aggressively or through full on satanism

Actual Source Creator remains nameless and is not involved on the ground floor - no sacrifice worship or fear mongering ect

This is the deception - all abrahamic religions worship satan in disguise

True Source would not grant ark of the covenant killing technology

The Golden Rule / Golden Ratio state of being is the way

No external idols - no idols period
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you IGNORE the most important fact

your god created Lucifer/satan/the devil ... and refuses to de-activate it ...

ignore - ance - is the only evil that exists

You Xians refuse to acknowledge that Lucifer SERVES god - it is not Human and it does not have Free Will, therefore everything that it does - it does because it is told to do it... by your god.

wake the fuck up
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All that scripture is giving me a rash.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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All will be healed before the end - including satan / the archons / yaldabaoth

A very long loooong looooooooong road - but will happen

Do not limit the restorative loving healing capacities of Source Origin
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Good Post OP.
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Yep.

One Father has a son, unique from the others he sent...we kept killing not wanting to hear about purity or truth. This one measurement sent showed those who live in the five senses what truth is in reality. Those who see Him, like a a son, would see what the Father who sent Him look/acted/was/is/shall be like.
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Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
time is short,seek your maker.
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OP, very much appreciate anything to bring us to be in unity with God by choosing love.

In your post, a marked distinction is made between the children of God and the Children of Satan, dividing us into two groups of which one is of good and the other is of evil.

We are all here learning to grow up to greater wisdom and benevolent maturity while moving along the long spiritual path to love.

And blessed with free will, some will move along that path faster than others, and some might even go backwards. Point is, we have all made mistakes from not knowing any better, and we will make more mistakes ahead. It is all part of growing up, learning from our mistakes that will make us stronger and wiser with more maturity.

That said, is it appropriate to label those who are at the very early point on the spiritual path as children of Satan?

It bears repeating, those who are further ahead on the spiritual path to love will have deeper understanding and compassion for those behind them, for they too were once at that earlier point of less awareness and not knowing any better.

Instead of judging and dividing, why not show compassion and understanding for those who haven't acquired the wisdom to make better choices yet. Send them love and pray that they will improve themselves, rather than wishing them to burn in some demonic place called Hell.

Some might believe they are already perfectly righteous and can be called children of God. But what happens when their actions are not righteous enough according to an even more righteous group? That is the danger of passing judgement on others. What comes around goes around.

Truth is God doesn't judge and punish, humans do. If we believe God will judge and punish, then we must also believe that God set us up to fail by blessing us with free will to freely choose and then relishes in punishing us for making poor choices. Makes no spiritual sense, let alone common sense.

Also in your post, there is repeated reference to being saved by Jesus.

Please humor me this question, would you still wholeheartedly embrace Jesus if there was no promise you will be saved or will be with God in paradise after death?

Is it pure love to love someone but only with an expectation of personal reward or benefit for the devotion? Or is that conditional love, which is not even love at all but is rather a form of deception and manipulation.

Regardless, our souls are a part of God. And so when our corporeal bodies expire, each of our soul will always be with God. It is about time we put aside the issue of whether we will be "saved" or not because it is irrelevant, except to some who will use it to instill fear and divide us.

We really humanized God to think and behave badly like us, with immature human attributes such as anger and vengeance.

The caring and compassionate God is pure unconditional love. God loves us all equally, regardless if we are believers or not, sinners or not.

God understands we are struggling to learn to grow up, and naturally we will make poor choices along the way. Instead of judging and punishing, God will always lovingly nurture and patiently guide us back onto the path to love when we veered off it from not knowing any better yet.

The immensity of God's love is incomprehensible to us. But when we are blessed to feel just a bit of God's amazing unconditional love, we will be tremendously humbled and extremely grateful at the same time. We will weep with tears of joy knowing how much God loves us and wants the best for us.

Then, we will no longer wish harm or suffering on anyone. And we will come to understand that love has always been the solution to our problems.

That is humans evolving spiritually to become more benevolent and understanding. It is what "reborn" truly means, not just simply by believing or by a water ritual. It is a new mindset.

When we have love in our hearts, we see the world from a kind and compassionate perspective. Because how we see and treat others is a direct reflection of our inner state.

All the best!
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Jesus Christ told the world about the SERPENTS.

Believe, follow and hold faithful to Jesus Christ

There is none other.
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Hey shadow douche you're full of shit.
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OP, very much appreciate anything to bring us to be in unity with God by choosing love.

In your post, a marked distinction is made between the children of God and the Children of Satan, dividing us into two groups of which one is of good and the other is of evil.

We are all here learning to grow up to greater wisdom and benevolent maturity while moving along the long spiritual path to love.

And blessed with free will, some will move along that path faster than others, and some might even go backwards. Point is, we have all made mistakes from not knowing any better, and we will make more mistakes ahead. It is all part of growing up, learning from our mistakes that will make us stronger and wiser with more maturity.

That said, is it appropriate to label those who are at the very early point on the spiritual path as children of Satan?

It bears repeating, those who are further ahead on the spiritual path to love will have deeper understanding and compassion for those behind them, for they too were once at that earlier point of less awareness and not knowing any better.

Instead of judging and dividing, why not show compassion and understanding for those who haven't acquired the wisdom to make better choices yet. Send them love and pray that they will improve themselves, rather than wishing them to burn in some demonic place called Hell.

Some might believe they are already perfectly righteous and can be called children of God. But what happens when their actions are not righteous enough according to an even more righteous group? That is the danger of passing judgement on others. What comes around goes around.

Truth is God doesn't judge and punish, humans do. If we believe God will judge and punish, then we must also believe that God set us up to fail by blessing us with free will to freely choose and then relishes in punishing us for making poor choices. Makes no spiritual sense, let alone common sense.

Also in your post, there is repeated reference to being saved by Jesus.

Please humor me this question, would you still wholeheartedly embrace Jesus if there was no promise you will be saved or will be with God in paradise after death?

Is it pure love to love someone but only with an expectation of personal reward or benefit for the devotion? Or is that conditional love, which is not even love at all but is rather a form of deception and manipulation.

Regardless, our souls are a part of God. And so when our corporeal bodies expire, each of our soul will always be with God. It is about time we put aside the issue of whether we will be "saved" or not because it is irrelevant, except to some who will use it to instill fear and divide us.

We really humanized God to think and behave badly like us, with immature human attributes such as anger and vengeance.

The caring and compassionate God is pure unconditional love. God loves us all equally, regardless if we are believers or not, sinners or not.

God understands we are struggling to learn to grow up, and naturally we will make poor choices along the way. Instead of judging and punishing, God will always lovingly nurture and patiently guide us back onto the path to love when we veered off it from not knowing any better yet.

The immensity of God's love is incomprehensible to us. But when we are blessed to feel just a bit of God's amazing unconditional love, we will be tremendously humbled and extremely grateful at the same time. We will weep with tears of joy knowing how much God loves us and wants the best for us.

Then, we will no longer wish harm or suffering on anyone. And we will come to understand that love has always been the solution to our problems.

That is humans evolving spiritually to become more benevolent and understanding. It is what "reborn" truly means, not just simply by believing or by a water ritual. It is a new mindset.

When we have love in our hearts, we see the world from a kind and compassionate perspective. Because how we see and treat others is a direct reflection of our inner state.

All the best!
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Please humor me this question, would you still wholeheartedly embrace Jesus if there was no promise you will be saved or will be with God in paradise after death?

Is it pure love to love someone but only with an expectation of personal reward or benefit for the devotion? Or is that conditional love, which is not even love at all but is rather a form of deception and manipulation.

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To answer your question my answer is Probably. As an ignorant I had no knowledge of the promises of God when Jesus revealed to me that he is God. For me it was a life-long quest to know the God who made me, THAT'S IT. When that was achieved I was elated and overjoyed. During the beginning of my walk with God I was deceived to believe and began to preach that even everybody will be saved. When I told my brother who was a Christian before me he knew already that not everyone was going to be saved. When he rebuked me for that falsehood I later reflected on his words and the word of God and realized he was right.

So I have to interpret your question this way, would I, or we, do what we do without reward? Simple answer: No. Jesus designed us to desire good things and reward is just that. Would you be a slave without being provided for? Let's come to terms that you reward good behavior and punish bad behavior and that reward is a necessary incentive to do what is good and right.

My answer to your second question. Is it pure love to want to be with my wife so I can have sex with her? Yes. That reward is a different reward than showing mercy to the needy. Love is more than just a feeling but also an action, and in some cases refraining from certain actions. Is sex with my wife conditional love? No, it's just icing on the cake.
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Re: Fellow Christians, the children of God vs the children of Satan. Beware of this knowledge.
It all seems meaningless.

When I weigh God and Satan, Christ and Antichrist, the measurement is all the same. Powerful beings that delight in screwing me over for their own gain.

Satan delights in hurting me, and God delights in holding me up Satan can continue to land blow after blow.

Antichrist's delight in making my life a misery, Christ delights in making my life a misery.

Scripture says alot of interesting things, that are tempting, but I have yet to see the Heavenly Father or Jesus Christ back up their talk. They talk the talk, but in my own life they never walked the walk.

According to the Bible, "Just compensation" is a big thing, yet the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, denied me my just compensation, forcing me to live a life of destitution and poverty. Forcing me through things I did not want to endure, so they could be glorified. According to the teachings of the Bible, the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have been unjust towards me.

Satan and the antichrist's, love to rub it in my face how the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ will never allow me to thrive and do well, will never allow me to love and be loved, never allow me to marry, all the while tempting me saying "worship me and it will all the world will be yours".

Concerning me, there is zero difference between the Heavenly Father and Satan, Christ and the antichrist's.

I don't want nor desire eternal life, because the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have always been unjust towards me.

Maybe I was supposed to be one of the sealed away 144,000, maybe not, but I'm just done with it all. When I was a child, I just wanted to be a child. When I was a teen, I just wanted to be a teen. When I was in my young adulthood, I just wanted to be a young adult. God had other plans.

From the moment of my conception I've been a slave to cruel and merciless slavelords. If God is good, his goodness will be his own glorification. If God is incapable of any goodness, then no amount of action by others will bring him a drop of glory.

I'm tired of suffering for Christ, when Christ never suffered for me. He suffered and died, so he could turn a blind eye towards his inequity concerning me. No one suffered for me, no one sacrificed for me, and I'm tired of suffering and sacrificing for others.

In this life or the next, there will never be freedom for me, so why bother? I just want to cease to exist and slumber in eternal nothingness.
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Re: Fellow Christians, the children of God vs the children of Satan. Beware of this knowledge.
Gosh OP. You wrote a book.
You should have saved bits of this to share a⅔s a conversation evolves.

Not many will even read this wall of text.

You failed.
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Re: Fellow Christians, the children of God vs the children of Satan. Beware of this knowledge.
It all seems meaningless.

When I weigh God and Satan, Christ and Antichrist, the measurement is all the same. Powerful beings that delight in screwing me over for their own gain.

Satan delights in hurting me, and God delights in holding me up Satan can continue to land blow after blow.

Antichrist's delight in making my life a misery, Christ delights in making my life a misery.

Scripture says alot of interesting things, that are tempting, but I have yet to see the Heavenly Father or Jesus Christ back up their talk. They talk the talk, but in my own life they never walked the walk.

According to the Bible, "Just compensation" is a big thing, yet the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, denied me my just compensation, forcing me to live a life of destitution and poverty. Forcing me through things I did not want to endure, so they could be glorified. According to the teachings of the Bible, the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have been unjust towards me.

Satan and the antichrist's, love to rub it in my face how the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ will never allow me to thrive and do well, will never allow me to love and be loved, never allow me to marry, all the while tempting me saying "worship me and it will all the world will be yours".

Concerning me, there is zero difference between the Heavenly Father and Satan, Christ and the antichrist's.

I don't want nor desire eternal life, because the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have always been unjust towards me.

Maybe I was supposed to be one of the sealed away 144,000, maybe not, but I'm just done with it all. When I was a child, I just wanted to be a child. When I was a teen, I just wanted to be a teen. When I was in my young adulthood, I just wanted to be a young adult. God had other plans.

From the moment of my conception I've been a slave to cruel and merciless slavelords. If God is good, his goodness will be his own glorification. If God is incapable of any goodness, then no amount of action by others will bring him a drop of glory.

I'm tired of suffering for Christ, when Christ never suffered for me. He suffered and died, so he could turn a blind eye towards his inequity concerning me. No one suffered for me, no one sacrificed for me, and I'm tired of suffering and sacrificing for others.

In this life or the next, there will never be freedom for me, so why bother? I just want to cease to exist and slumber in eternal nothingness.
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This is all true for me too

Did not realize there was another
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Re: Fellow Christians, the children of God vs the children of Satan. Beware of this knowledge.
All that scripture is giving me a rash.
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That's nothing compared to whats coming for you ...
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All that scripture is giving me a rash.
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That's nothing compared to whats coming for you ...
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Maybe a good dose of bumpox





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