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pish
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El Bronson
User ID: 80061599 United States 07/05/2022 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | !Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas! - Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919 Nothing goes as planned and nothing seems as it is. Most everyone's mad here; you may have noticed I'm not all there myself...and now I'm afraid we must get on to the more regrettable stage of our brief acquaintance. |
Sharon Cherries
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Vasily
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Truth Be Known
Saul Good User ID: 83504962 United States 07/05/2022 01:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CERN and the Bottomless pit. Quoting: pish We theorized the atom...it took us longer to discover what it was made of. When we did..the first question was...what are those particles made of? And we learned to smash atoms. Now we have all sorts of particles...Muons, Quarks, etc... So what are they made of? And so the story goes...it’s a bottomless pit. The post title is based on a supposed astronomy lecture, where a young lady interrupted the professor and said that the universe actually existed on the back of a turtle. The professor asked her what then, is the turtle standing on?, and she replied “ It’s turtles all the way down”. Ultimately, I don’t think there is anything to learn from deconstructing matter..life..energy...you can find out parts and structures, and how they interact..but you lose the spirit of it all in motion. We’ve been given the keys to the bottomless pit, but I don’t think we know what to do with them, and are asking all the wrong questions. When CERN fires up tomorrow, it’s just another turtle on the way down. Keep looking. Something has to be at the center of the pop. If not, well then, everything is made out of almost nothing. That can’t be. Can it? There is no nobility in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your former self. ~ Ernest Hemingway |
pish
(OP) Turtle Hermit User ID: 80956893 United States 07/05/2022 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CERN and the Bottomless pit. Quoting: pish We theorized the atom...it took us longer to discover what it was made of. When we did..the first question was...what are those particles made of? And we learned to smash atoms. Now we have all sorts of particles...Muons, Quarks, etc... So what are they made of? And so the story goes...it’s a bottomless pit. The post title is based on a supposed astronomy lecture, where a young lady interrupted the professor and said that the universe actually existed on the back of a turtle. The professor asked her what then, is the turtle standing on?, and she replied “ It’s turtles all the way down”. Ultimately, I don’t think there is anything to learn from deconstructing matter..life..energy...you can find out parts and structures, and how they interact..but you lose the spirit of it all in motion. We’ve been given the keys to the bottomless pit, but I don’t think we know what to do with them, and are asking all the wrong questions. When CERN fires up tomorrow, it’s just another turtle on the way down. Keep looking. Something has to be at the center of the pop. If not, well then, everything is made out of almost nothing. That can’t be. Can it? What if there is nothing at the center? Maybe just you since you worked your way there. What does that tell you? You find a book labeled the meaning of everything, and you open it... And it’s just a mirror. Always remember these words: Work hard, study well, and eat and sleep plenty! That is the Turtle Hermit way! We must master the art of peace in addition to the art of war! |
mondali2
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pish
(OP) Turtle Hermit User ID: 80956893 United States 07/05/2022 02:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the universe is a living matrix. The universe exists in the mind of the all. Lift the veil and there is but one consciousness expressing itself through all of creation. Quoting: mondali2 So maybe we are just a dream of the dreamer... Does that make us any less real? Even when the dreamer wakes..he remembers the dream. So is it dead or non existent? When something is thought of..does it ever leave existence at that point? It’s always something...even if just a memory or dream. Always remember these words: Work hard, study well, and eat and sleep plenty! That is the Turtle Hermit way! We must master the art of peace in addition to the art of war! |
Mike13
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80817262 Austria 07/05/2022 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the universe is a living matrix. The universe exists in the mind of the all. Lift the veil and there is but one consciousness expressing itself through all of creation. Quoting: mondali2 So maybe we are just a dream of the dreamer... Does that make us any less real? Even when the dreamer wakes..he remembers the dream. So is it dead or non existent? When something is thought of..does it ever leave existence at that point? It’s always something...even if just a memory or dream. I think record is important at that point, memory seems very stable but it is not a proof. |
The Tard Wrangler
User ID: 78105231 Australia 07/05/2022 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CERN and the Bottomless pit. Quoting: pish We theorized the atom...it took us longer to discover what it was made of. When we did..the first question was...what are those particles made of? And we learned to smash atoms. Now we have all sorts of particles...Muons, Quarks, etc... So what are they made of? And so the story goes...it’s a bottomless pit. The post title is based on a supposed astronomy lecture, where a young lady interrupted the professor and said that the universe actually existed on the back of a turtle. The professor asked her what then, is the turtle standing on?, and she replied “ It’s turtles all the way down”. Ultimately, I don’t think there is anything to learn from deconstructing matter..life..energy...you can find out parts and structures, and how they interact..but you lose the spirit of it all in motion. We’ve been given the keys to the bottomless pit, but I don’t think we know what to do with them, and are asking all the wrong questions. When CERN fires up tomorrow, it’s just another turtle on the way down. Keep looking. Something has to be at the center of the pop. If not, well then, everything is made out of almost nothing. That can’t be. Can it? What if there is nothing at the center? Maybe just you since you worked your way there. What does that tell you? You find a book labeled the meaning of everything, and you open it... And it’s just a mirror. You smokin’ bud? Correcting the record one tard at a time #Junior Forum Mentor |
pish
(OP) Turtle Hermit User ID: 80956893 United States 07/05/2022 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CERN and the Bottomless pit. Quoting: pish We theorized the atom...it took us longer to discover what it was made of. When we did..the first question was...what are those particles made of? And we learned to smash atoms. Now we have all sorts of particles...Muons, Quarks, etc... So what are they made of? And so the story goes...it’s a bottomless pit. The post title is based on a supposed astronomy lecture, where a young lady interrupted the professor and said that the universe actually existed on the back of a turtle. The professor asked her what then, is the turtle standing on?, and she replied “ It’s turtles all the way down”. Ultimately, I don’t think there is anything to learn from deconstructing matter..life..energy...you can find out parts and structures, and how they interact..but you lose the spirit of it all in motion. We’ve been given the keys to the bottomless pit, but I don’t think we know what to do with them, and are asking all the wrong questions. When CERN fires up tomorrow, it’s just another turtle on the way down. Keep looking. Something has to be at the center of the pop. If not, well then, everything is made out of almost nothing. That can’t be. Can it? What if there is nothing at the center? Maybe just you since you worked your way there. What does that tell you? You find a book labeled the meaning of everything, and you open it... And it’s just a mirror. You smokin’ bud? No. Can you recommend some good shit? Always remember these words: Work hard, study well, and eat and sleep plenty! That is the Turtle Hermit way! We must master the art of peace in addition to the art of war! |
Sharon Cherries
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Mike13
User ID: 80547485 United States 07/05/2022 02:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like some of the wanna be aztec nonsense. You’ve obviously triggered one Quoting: Sharon Cherries Maybe I got you confused with that Hispanic boy who spams his delusions here and even had a turtle thread. Sorry No worries, I sent some vibes your way to help you remember I'm the energy guy who usually limits his "delusions" to one or two threads at a time but they're not letting me have one right now so I posted here instead. Last Edited by Mike13 on 07/05/2022 02:50 AM |
Mike13
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The Tard Wrangler
User ID: 78105231 Australia 07/05/2022 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Truth Be Known Keep looking. Something has to be at the center of the pop. If not, well then, everything is made out of almost nothing. That can’t be. Can it? What if there is nothing at the center? Maybe just you since you worked your way there. What does that tell you? You find a book labeled the meaning of everything, and you open it... And it’s just a mirror. You smokin’ bud? No. Can you recommend some good shit? Aren’t there dispensaries on every corner of SoCal? I’m smoking home grown strawberry kush myself Correcting the record one tard at a time #Junior Forum Mentor |
Lazy Monk
User ID: 75694638 Sweden 07/05/2022 03:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CERN and the Bottomless pit. Quoting: pish ... When CERN fires up tomorrow, it’s just another turtle on the way down. I think you hit the nail on the head there. The entire approach is BS and leads nowhere. "But, they have all this math and shit!" Yes, but math can be illusory. If you take the wrong approach in math to describe physics, simple things can look exceedingly complex. If you then don't realize you're barking up the wrong tree, you can think the underlying reality is that complex, when it's just your flawed approach that makes it look that way. I'll make a simple example to show what I mean. Here's an infinite series: 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + ... This infinite series actually sums up to 1 Now imagine that you have built a mathematical structure where you represent things with infinite series, instead of plain old integers. Then you do complex arithmetic with it. It's gonna look pretty impressive in its complexity. But it's just an illusion, you're really just adding integers with all your hard work. I strongly suspect a similar thing has happened with physics. First, the idea is that particles interact by exchanging other particles. But to make this idea fit observations, the particles must have a cloud of "virtual particles" around them. The math they use says that every particle causes a weak virtual particle to exist, which in turn forces an even weaker virtual particle to appear, and so on. Sounds a whole lot like an infinite series to me. When you start peeling away the layers of this kind of mathematical onion, all you will find, is more layers. Turtles all the way down. To see the actual simplicity of it, you need to step out of your current mindset and find a different approach. Last Edited by Lazy Monk on 07/05/2022 03:30 AM Lazy Monk |