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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83787159 United States 07/02/2022 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Satya..I have posted this piece from my website which might help explain the WAY... I also posted it in my Christianity must be reborn. It may be useful. Quoting: Mother Maggie [link to abundanthope.net (secure)] Thank you Maggie! Birds of a feather... |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80376576 United States 07/02/2022 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Satya..I have posted this piece from my website which might help explain the WAY... I also posted it in my Christianity must be reborn. It may be useful. Quoting: Mother Maggie [link to abundanthope.net (secure)] Thank you Maggie! Birds of a feather... No. We are not. But your ignorance will keep you imprisoned in your own mind. Since when is being polite a sin? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83787159 United States 07/02/2022 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You see, Maggie is at least honest and authentic. She doesn't hide behind facades. She doesn't lie. She's not insiduous. She's not fake. Quoting: Satyarevelations All she does is lie. Lying is her business serving her father, the farther of lies. Candace has never been aboard any ships or met with any angels or her false fake lie of a Jesus. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83787159 United States 07/02/2022 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You see, Maggie is at least honest and authentic. She doesn't hide behind facades. She doesn't lie. She's not insiduous. She's not fake. Quoting: Satyarevelations All she does is lie. Lying is her business serving her father, the father of lies. Candace has never been aboard any ships or met with any angels or her false fake lie of a Jesus. . |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80376576 United States 07/02/2022 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You see, Maggie is at least honest and authentic. She doesn't hide behind facades. She doesn't lie. She's not insiduous. She's not fake. Quoting: Satyarevelations All she does is lie. Lying is her business serving her father, the farther of lies. Candace has never been aboard any ships or met with any angels or her false fake lie of a Jesus. . No. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62826876 Canada 07/02/2022 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I said I would....... This thread is NOT about Maggie. Your completely off topic. Keep it up, and I'll ban you. Oh now threatening to ban me. I see how you are. She's right. Banning is the only way to stop your constant hijacking. Learned it from you. I LEARNED IT FROM YOU. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79669970 07/02/2022 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79663490 I'm at work now where videos are blocked. I'll check back later in the evening when you've had a chance to post your explanation. I look forward to it. How can we know the Way to Father as Jesus taught, unless we know who he was, what he taught, what he demonstrated. To follow his way, means not just to hear the words with our ears, but take them in, into our heart. KNOW HIM. Intimately. Not what his disciples said, but what HE said. Just to let you know, I have been born again according to Christian doctrine. So let's take a look at just who this man was/is. His teachings were very deep and esoteric. Not even his disciples could understand the meanings of his parables most of the time, he had to take them aside to explain. To the rest of the crowds, they had not interest in understanding but just poo-poo'd what he said and got angry. Why? The hebrews teach that there are four levels of understanding scripture, i would say there are more than 4. But that's a whole nother topic in and of itself. It all has to do with levels of consciousness. This is where it all gets trippy for you guys, and becoz you don't understand, you dismiss it as paganism, hinduism, even satanism. Yet, you don't realize you're damning the very one you claim as Saviour. Take for instance Jesus fasting in the desert for 40 days and 40 nights. Was that for fun? What was the purpose? I'm not going to to tell you, you need to explore that on your own, but I will tell you, that this practice takes one inward in a way never before experienced and leads one to roads of spiritual knowledge unattainable before. So, is that an example for us to follow? I would tend to believe so. Let's take some of his teachings....... Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 NIV When Jesus said this, he as not referring to his death as a sacrifice for humanity.... not in the way christians teach and believe. He was saying exactly what he said: no one can come to the father except through the way that he showed us. So what was his way? Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Matthew 22:37-40 NIV 45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” 12 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted. 31 So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. 11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. * Note: you see he did not refer to the priests or scribes ... but he did warn about false apostles who say they are, but aren't. The prophets were killed for speaking the truth..... no others. * Does this help to begin to understand where I am coming from? Editing to add: Ransom does not = blood sacrifice. Thank You for that extensive and clear response! I've read through carefully 3X to be sure of my understanding. [TO ME] It appears that you follow Jesus' 2 Commandments in order to be declared Just and Righteous before God. Jesus taught under the Law, therefore Law was preached. If at any point in your life you transgress the Law, Jesus said to bring your sacrifice to the Temple for atonement. That was 'The Way' that Jesus taught. Have you brought your sacrifice to the Temple for your sins? Have you fasted without food or water for 40 days yet? Have you followed Jesus walking out onto the waters of the sea? Have you calmed a violent Thunderstorm? Seems Jesus' Way is a hard, legal road .... obedience to Laws or else. I have some Good News for you! We are now under a New Covenant (New Testament). The Old Testament has passed away. This New Covenant is based upon the favor of God through His Grace and Mercy in Christ. We enter into this New Covenant not by works of the Law, but by Faith in Jesus. As it is said, 'Christ is become of no effect to you, whosoever of you seek justification through the Law. The Just shall live by Faith' Indeed, it is Good News to which Jesus and the Prophets testify for no one is justified by Law in the sight of God'. I pray that you will investigate this New Covenant of which Jesus and the Prophets speak. Your life will change and be richer and fuller than you could ever imagine. God Bless you in your search! I want to write to help you further understand my past indoctrination and programming. As a little girl I believed that if I didn’t accept Jesus into my heart (being born again) that I would have to go to hell when I died where the devil would torture me – that I would be burned forever in eternal pain and agony. My questions for you: Why would anyone tell a little child this? Why would a loving God torture us? What would the motive in torturing us be? Why is it so important that you sway others to believe like this? Thank you for taking the time to answer these questions. P.S. Please don't tell me that we send ourselves to hell. That is not logical and no human would choose to suffer eternity in flames and torment. It is very unfortunate that false and degrading teaching like this is what you were exposed to as a child. I am not a fan of organized 'religion' such as this ... 'Churches' who promote these errors do grave injury to genuine people who just want to know God through Christ. Why would anyone tell a child this? Because they are deceived and do not know any better themselves. Error begets error until they are well off of the righteous path to salvation. Why would a loving God torture us? What is His motive? A Loving God does not torture people. He has a place prepared for the devil and his angels; this place was never intended to be for human beings. Humans who wind up in this place have rejected God and His provision for them. They want nothing to do with God ... usually through false teaching such as this. Why is it so important for me to sway others to believe like this? I don't teach these errors, so I'm not swaying anyone. I recognize error (through proper teaching) and reject error. No matter how it is sliced, we DO have a choice in life. We choose whether to be law-abiding or a criminal. We choose to love others, rather than to hate them. We choose to nuture children or to abuse them. Always remember and gauge your 'freedom' in Christ: Truth sets you free, error places you in bondage. That is a rule from the lips of the Lord Himself. I myself have been exposed to some of this false teaching as a child. It did not cause me to throw out Christ and His Salvation for me, I knew that He was the Way. All of this false teaching however, I recognized must be eliminated from my thinking through Truth. I wanted freedom, not bondage to Laws. I set myself on a path to Truth and it has been a 40 year journey. Salvation is not behavior modification. It is a state of living Trust and Faith in Jesus and His personal sacrifice for me. I appreciate you giving me credit for the doctrine of Salvation through Grace of God ... but it is not MY doctrine. It is NOT a religion or religious doctrine. It is called the New Covenant and taught extensively in the Bible. The false teachers that you were subjected to as a child taught Law. Legalism is what we call it. Another name for it is the Old Covenant/Old Testament. I pray that you are able to overcome the false teaching and arrive at the Grace of God. It is well worth pursuing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83787159 United States 07/02/2022 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Satyarevelations I said I would....... This thread is NOT about Maggie. Your completely off topic. Keep it up, and I'll ban you. Oh now threatening to ban me. I see how you are. She's right. Banning is the only way to stop your constant hijacking. Learned it from you. I LEARNED IT FROM YOU. Me who? Go psychotic now... Buh bye. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62826876 Canada 07/02/2022 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I said I would....... This thread is NOT about Maggie. Your completely off topic. Keep it up, and I'll ban you. Oh now threatening to ban me. I see how you are. She's right. Banning is the only way to stop your constant hijacking. By the way, the only way to truly ban me is to ban all ACS. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80376576 United States 07/02/2022 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is very unfortunate that false and degrading teaching like this is what you were exposed to as a child. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79669970 I am not a fan of organized 'religion' such as this ... 'Churches' who promote these errors do grave injury to genuine people who just want to know God through Christ. Why would anyone tell a child this? Because they are deceived and do not know any better themselves. Error begets error until they are well off of the righteous path to salvation. Why would a loving God torture us? What is His motive? A Loving God does not torture people. He has a place prepared for the devil and his angels; this place was never intended to be for human beings. Humans who wind up in this place have rejected God and His provision for them. They want nothing to do with God ... usually through false teaching such as this. Why is it so important for me to sway others to believe like this? I don't teach these errors, so I'm not swaying anyone. I recognize error (through proper teaching) and reject error. No matter how it is sliced, we DO have a choice in life. We choose whether to be law-abiding or a criminal. We choose to love others, rather than to hate them. We choose to nuture children or to abuse them. Always remember and gauge your 'freedom' in Christ: Truth sets you free, error places you in bondage. That is a rule from the lips of the Lord Himself. I myself have been exposed to some of this false teaching as a child. It did not cause me to throw out Christ and His Salvation for me, I knew that He was the Way. All of this false teaching however, I recognized must be eliminated from my thinking through Truth. I wanted freedom, not bondage to Laws. I set myself on a path to Truth and it has been a 40 year journey. Salvation is not behavior modification. It is a state of living Trust and Faith in Jesus and His personal sacrifice for me. I appreciate you giving me credit for the doctrine of Salvation through Grace of God ... but it is not MY doctrine. It is NOT a religion or religious doctrine. It is called the New Covenant and taught extensively in the Bible. The false teachers that you were subjected to as a child taught Law. Legalism is what we call it. Another name for it is the Old Covenant/Old Testament. I pray that you are able to overcome the false teaching and arrive at the Grace of God. It is well worth pursuing. I have already, thank you. And as you can see, when I try to share... I'm damned for it. But thank you for you post! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79669970 07/02/2022 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Satyarevelations How can we know the Way to Father as Jesus taught, unless we know who he was, what he taught, what he demonstrated. To follow his way, means not just to hear the words with our ears, but take them in, into our heart. KNOW HIM. Intimately. Not what his disciples said, but what HE said. Just to let you know, I have been born again according to Christian doctrine. So let's take a look at just who this man was/is. His teachings were very deep and esoteric. Not even his disciples could understand the meanings of his parables most of the time, he had to take them aside to explain. To the rest of the crowds, they had not interest in understanding but just poo-poo'd what he said and got angry. Why? The hebrews teach that there are four levels of understanding scripture, i would say there are more than 4. But that's a whole nother topic in and of itself. It all has to do with levels of consciousness. This is where it all gets trippy for you guys, and becoz you don't understand, you dismiss it as paganism, hinduism, even satanism. Yet, you don't realize you're damning the very one you claim as Saviour. Take for instance Jesus fasting in the desert for 40 days and 40 nights. Was that for fun? What was the purpose? I'm not going to to tell you, you need to explore that on your own, but I will tell you, that this practice takes one inward in a way never before experienced and leads one to roads of spiritual knowledge unattainable before. So, is that an example for us to follow? I would tend to believe so. Let's take some of his teachings....... Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 NIV When Jesus said this, he as not referring to his death as a sacrifice for humanity.... not in the way christians teach and believe. He was saying exactly what he said: no one can come to the father except through the way that he showed us. So what was his way? Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Matthew 22:37-40 NIV 45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” 12 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted. 31 So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. 11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. * Note: you see he did not refer to the priests or scribes ... but he did warn about false apostles who say they are, but aren't. The prophets were killed for speaking the truth..... no others. * Does this help to begin to understand where I am coming from? Editing to add: Ransom does not = blood sacrifice. Thank You for that extensive and clear response! I've read through carefully 3X to be sure of my understanding. [TO ME] It appears that you follow Jesus' 2 Commandments in order to be declared Just and Righteous before God. Jesus taught under the Law, therefore Law was preached. If at any point in your life you transgress the Law, Jesus said to bring your sacrifice to the Temple for atonement. That was 'The Way' that Jesus taught. Have you brought your sacrifice to the Temple for your sins? Have you fasted without food or water for 40 days yet? Have you followed Jesus walking out onto the waters of the sea? Have you calmed a violent Thunderstorm? Seems Jesus' Way is a hard, legal road .... obedience to Laws or else. I have some Good News for you! We are now under a New Covenant (New Testament). The Old Testament has passed away. This New Covenant is based upon the favor of God through His Grace and Mercy in Christ. We enter into this New Covenant not by works of the Law, but by Faith in Jesus. As it is said, 'Christ is become of no effect to you, whosoever of you seek justification through the Law. The Just shall live by Faith' Indeed, it is Good News to which Jesus and the Prophets testify for no one is justified by Law in the sight of God'. I pray that you will investigate this New Covenant of which Jesus and the Prophets speak. Your life will change and be richer and fuller than you could ever imagine. God Bless you in your search! I want to write to help you further understand my past indoctrination and programming. As a little girl I believed that if I didn’t accept Jesus into my heart (being born again) that I would have to go to hell when I died where the devil would torture me – that I would be burned forever in eternal pain and agony. My questions for you: Why would anyone tell a little child this? Why would a loving God torture us? What would the motive in torturing us be? Why is it so important that you sway others to believe like this? Thank you for taking the time to answer these questions. P.S. Please don't tell me that we send ourselves to hell. That is not logical and no human would choose to suffer eternity in flames and torment. It is very unfortunate that false and degrading teaching like this is what you were exposed to as a child. I am not a fan of organized 'religion' such as this ... 'Churches' who promote these errors do grave injury to genuine people who just want to know God through Christ. Why would anyone tell a child this? Because they are deceived and do not know any better themselves. Error begets error until they are well off of the righteous path to salvation. Why would a loving God torture us? What is His motive? A Loving God does not torture people. He has a place prepared for the devil and his angels; this place was never intended to be for human beings. Humans who wind up in this place have rejected God and His provision for them. They want nothing to do with God ... usually through false teaching such as this. Why is it so important for me to sway others to believe like this? I don't teach these errors, so I'm not swaying anyone. I recognize error (through proper teaching) and reject error. No matter how it is sliced, we DO have a choice in life. We choose whether to be law-abiding or a criminal. We choose to love others, rather than to hate them. We choose to nuture children or to abuse them. Always remember and gauge your 'freedom' in Christ: Truth sets you free, error places you in bondage. That is a rule from the lips of the Lord Himself. I myself have been exposed to some of this false teaching as a child. It did not cause me to throw out Christ and His Salvation for me, I knew that He was the Way. All of this false teaching however, I recognized must be eliminated from my thinking through Truth. I wanted freedom, not bondage to Laws. I set myself on a path to Truth and it has been a 40 year journey. Salvation is not behavior modification. It is a state of living Trust and Faith in Jesus and His personal sacrifice for me. I appreciate you giving me credit for the doctrine of Salvation through Grace of God ... but it is not MY doctrine. It is NOT a religion or religious doctrine. It is called the New Covenant and taught extensively in the Bible. The false teachers that you were subjected to as a child taught Law. Legalism is what we call it. Another name for it is the Old Covenant/Old Testament. I pray that you are able to overcome the false teaching and arrive at the Grace of God. It is well worth pursuing. As a matter of fact, this is one of the two reasons why I visit GLP. - Current news from a ground source [I like geopolitics] - Combat false teaching like this legalism and cults I enjoy spreading Truth about our Perfect and Loving Savior, Christ Jesus the Lord. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66066380 United States 07/02/2022 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are deceived. There are so many years of records, decades of documents proving her persistent lies, channeling frauds and fake intel reports. Open your eyes to the truth and do some research. You have become an accomplice by falsifying the truth and supporting her lies. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80376576 United States 07/02/2022 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are deceived. There are so many years of records, decades of documents proving her persistent lies, channeling frauds and fake intel reports. Open your eyes to the truth and do some research. You have become an accomplice by falsifying the truth and supporting her lies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66066380 You misunderstand me. Her truths are not mine, but some of what she says is truth. I don't receive information the same way she does, nor from the same source. What I am saying is she is authentic in presenting what she believes is truth. She doesn't lie, she doesn't mince words, she does hide behind facades, she is not insidious. It's on all of us individually to discern our own truths. If what she says offends you, then leave it!!! No need for attack ! I have come across others who are liars, deceivers, full of hate and condemnation, that call themselves christians. THESE are the ones you need to watch out for. Now AGAIN, this thread is NOT about Maggie!!! ffs |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34375517 United States 07/02/2022 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I pray that you are able to overcome the false teaching and arrive at the Grace of God. It is well worth pursuing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79669970 I have already, thank you. And as you can see, when I try to share... I'm damned for it. But thank you for you post! What is the false teaching you have overcome? What is the truth you have found that you are damned for sharing? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80376576 United States 07/02/2022 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I pray that you are able to overcome the false teaching and arrive at the Grace of God. It is well worth pursuing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79669970 I have already, thank you. And as you can see, when I try to share... I'm damned for it. But thank you for you post! What is the false teaching you have overcome? What is the truth you have found that you are damned for sharing? If you want to know, I have hundreds of posts and several threads out there. |
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