70 & 80 Year Old's are Generally Seen as Unemployable Due to Mental Decline /Skill Mismatch - Yet They are Exclusively Running the Country

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I see a lot of people saying my grandma's 90 and doing great, people are still sharp at 80 this and that, etc.. Not a very good strawman argument...

While all that is true, it is not a generality, by any means, the point here is not that there's a few old people in
117th Congress, the point is that the median age of the Senate is fucking 63 years old, with 26 Senators at 70 or older, and 31 Senators 69 or older.
The most popular year of birth is 1952 and 1954 !!!

The median age in the House of representatives is a bit lower, with 58.
But with 76 Representatives 70 or older, and 84 reps 69 or older !
With a most popular year of birth at 1953

It is crazy and not at all representative of the workforce

We have 31% of the senate that is 69 years old or more, and almost 20% of the house of Representatives that are 69 or older

21.5% of the 117th Congress is 69 or older (well that was in 2021)

So all those percentages are now higher.

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And the worst thing is, that it's some of oldest that are the leaders...

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Mental decline?

Stupid fucking thread.

Delete.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Again, the straw man argument here is that the alternative are inexperienced "youngsters".

Can you perform better than a 40-year-old with a similar skill and experience set as you? Doubtful.

The old that defend this always leave that out. Quick to point out those that they can outperform, but silent about those that excel beyond them.

If you are better at what you do than 90/100 people half your age... I want the 10 that are better than you. Those are the ones who should have opportunity at leadership. The best of the best... and there are some in their prime.

It amazes me how lost in PRIDE so many are.

You lie, you sit in a wheelchair and drool, and are already shitting yourself.





J/K. Good to hear of people living with purpose.

Term, and age limits for min and max. No more under 35. Too immature for govt work.

Let’s lower the retirement age back to 55 since we have 8 billion people, the young can do the work.

Money is fake, print more to cover it, get it done for the American people instead of everyone else.

There should be a market for wisdom. Elderly people should be able to advise younger generations on life matters and get paid for it.

We should treasure and revere our elders for their knowledge and experience - like we used to in times past.

HOWEVER, when it comes to term limits and corruption, they need new ideas, new people with passion and innovation. Not people who have been in their current position for 40-50 years and are not concerned about the good of the country. They are only concerned with filling their bank accounts. Term limits would help with endless corruption.

It amazes me how quick people want to condemn others based on the pedestalizing of their own youthfulness. Many people without a good mentor don't even get a good footing until they're 40.

So what kind of performance comparison between 40YO and 60YO are we talking about? Leadership and decision making? Give me the 60 year old most of the time, unless we're talking an esoteric or narrow skill set. Are we talking working a shovel or construction? 40YO should win there, but not always. Culinary? I'd take the 60YO as working chef or manager over the 40YO.

How old are you bub?

Humanity has never had this many old people, post Genesis.

The current admin has done it's best to bring monarchy back..

I agree! This should be the case for public servants in the Whitehouse.

It's not their age that matters. It's what they are. Nazi psychopaths that are hell bent on trans-humanizing and enslaving humanity.

no, they are never fine
they barely make it through one normal day
nobody should be president of anything beyond 65

this thing is a bad consequence of our moronic world
at least when we had more hand to hand violence, these old farts would get killed in their 50s max if they were not wise

the joke is on us tho, we vote for these dynosaurs
i would have tried old Ron Paul tho, the exception

To your point. I am surrounded by 80-85 year olds. All 4 of my wife and I parents are alive. They have always been in decent health, very activism all thin etc. Also, the owner of the private company I work for is 81 and my closest neighbor is 83.

IT DRIVES ME BAT SHIT CRAZY! I love them all, including the owner of our company. Wonderful, honest and very nice man. But they forget shit, their train of thought getting all weird, can't make decisions, ask me the same question 100 times and on & on. They start to REALLY slow down, their brains slow, it shows.

Anyway, just throwing it out there. Means nothing in the grans scheme I guess.

Just that IMHO, you are dead on. Have a great day! TERM LIMITS!!!

Yes, they are very often fine. You have a limited view and may have never worked along side sharp old folk. Get out more and see the value different demographics of people have.

They aren't running anything, they are empty suits, signing laws for the Oligarchs behind the curtain.

I had no mentors in my teen years so I enlisted in the mil and learned a lifelong trade. I got my first civilian job in my trained trade 1 week after discharge and it kept me busy for my whole life

I have nothing against old people, they should be revered and sought out for long conversations.

However, yeah, WTF is up with these memory care patients stuttering and stumbling, shitting their fucking pants...Do we not have any capable 40 or 50 year olds to run things?

I think there is a difference between work that evolves and work that requires experience.

I think there is a pretty large difference between being a successful entrepreneur, business owner, restaurant chef/owner or skill trade foreman or something similar,

And being in government.


Becoming an expert foreman will make you an expert foreman for life- you can keep up with the change in technique and technology.


"Systems engineer" style work, which is what government work at the higher levels is, (work that consists of basically designing how work is to be done for others and how a system flows) can be upended and changed so drastically as a result of new technology and progress, that I don't think it's something you can do effectively if you don't have a good understanding of the current decade.


If you are a 70 year old foreman, you can learn and integrate the new method of printing houses with concrete printers to, say, create a block of very low income housing for a sector or something. That's easy.

But if you are a 70 year old systems engineer, who studies and implements how entire zones of cities are segmented, controlling how thousand also and thousands of construction foreman's are allowed to build out cities,
And you have 50 years of experience doing it a certain way,
It's much more difficult for you to create an entirely new paradigm to allow space for that same new technology.


In other words, the exact people we are talking about, government officials,
I believe, are in the literal worst position regarding the new changes that technology brings. They are as "zoomed out" as it's possible to be regarding the technological zeitgeist,
While simultaneously being as trained as possible in methods that operated before these tech revolutions happened.

TL;DR
An 80 year old man can learn a new trick in Photoshop, if they are an expert in Photoshop.
That's being in a trade.

But an 80 year old man has a harder time learning, say, Unreal Engine 5, from scratch, than a 20 year old.

What the government needs, and the world needs, is the Unreal Engine 5 version of thinking, governance and methodology. Upgrades to system engineering must be complete, ground up upgrades, inline with technological paradigm shifts.

Military is a huge bucket of mentor-ship. You learned purpose, you learned dedication, you learned routine, you learned reliability. If you don't get those hammered down early on, it takes an easy 15 years to break all the bad habits you collected without those traits.

They shouldn’t be driving either.

They're also the most corrupt. They have long-standing social networks they can depend upon utterly. They've grandchildren and even great-grand-children, so they know they've a legacy to leave wealth for. They've figured out all the 'games' and dirty dealings, to a level of mastery.

Pelosi, Fauci, Warren Buffet, Soros, Henry Kissinger, all these semi-fossilized scumbags are way past their prime and only still working so no one uncovers their criminal activity while they're alive to be punished for it.

Touche.

Well the Walmart greeters and tractor supply crew don’t have access to adrenochrome