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Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible

 
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Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
The earth axis tilt is no more than 24.5 degrees. [link to www.timeanddate.com (secure)]

That means that at the maximum, summer equinox (which is just about now) the sun will be 24.5 degrees higher than average.

I am located at 42 degrees north latitude. I know which way is north, and if anything, the sun is slightly south of vertical at the moment. That means that on the average, the sun at noontime should be 42 degrees below vertical, about 48 degrees above the horizon.

Since 24.5 < 42, it should be impossible that the sun is directly overhead.
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
typo, I meant

"the sun is slightly south of vertical" i.e. it's gone beyond vertical
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
and summer solstice not equinox
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
hate all the math, stats and numbers are smokescreen for whatever you'd like to portray

all i know is that sun is above you always at noon

al the rest, meh conspiracy
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
Can I have some of what you're smoking?
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
Op is into something. I observed the same. What can be the cause of this?
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
the earth is a flat and stationary plane
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
the earth is a flat and stationary plane
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bump
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
hate all the math, stats and numbers are smokescreen for whatever you'd like to portray

all i know is that sun is above you always at noon

al the rest, meh conspiracy
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You're in Norway, and the sun is above you at noon? All of Norway is above 55 degrees north latitude. Are you sure?
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
Op is into something. I observed the same. What can be the cause of this?
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The earth is not a ball spinning around the sun.

The sun is what moves around earth.
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
Op is into something. I observed the same. What can be the cause of this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76911371


The earth is not a ball spinning around the sun.

The sun is what moves around earth.
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Do you not think gravitational force is proportional to the masses, and that F=ma, both being approximations that are close enough for this discussion?
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
The earth axis tilt is no more than 24.5 degrees. [link to www.timeanddate.com (secure)]

That means that at the maximum, summer equinox (which is just about now) the sun will be 24.5 degrees higher than average.

I am located at 42 degrees north latitude. I know which way is north, and if anything, the sun is slightly south of vertical at the moment. That means that on the average, the sun at noontime should be 42 degrees below vertical, about 48 degrees above the horizon.

Since 24.5 < 42, it should be impossible that the sun is directly overhead.
 Quoting: 42 degrees north latitude 81887851


its always over head where I live at about this time.. but I have not looked this year.

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Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
Op is into something. I observed the same. What can be the cause of this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76911371


The earth is not a ball spinning around the sun.

The sun is what moves around earth.
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And once again stupidity raises its pointy little head… sit down you twit. You’re embarrassing your mother… again.
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
Op is into something. I observed the same. What can be the cause of this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76911371


The earth is not a ball spinning around the sun.

The sun is what moves around earth.
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And once again stupidity raises its pointy little head… sit down you twit. You’re embarrassing your mother… again.
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bump.
Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
if you're at 42 degrees north latitude......then at the equinox the angle to the noon sun will be 90 - 42 = 48 degrees.....

at summer solstice you add 23.4 degrees to that and the sun should be 48 + 23.4 = 71.4 degrees above the horizon......or 90 - 71.4 = 18.6 degrees from directly overhead...


go outside tomorrow and determine where the sun is at high noon.....
jam a stick in the ground and mark off the shadows to find the spot where the shadow was shortest.....that was high noon....
if the sun is directly overhead there will be no shadow.....

the next day you document your observation.....

if your stick is 4 feet high....then the shadow should be about 1 foot 4.125 inches long.....
the longer your stick...and more pointy it is on top.......the more accurate your measurement will be....

dont come in here making outlandish claims unless you have good documentation of your observation....
for instance....take a video of a phone showing the time and gps location....or a landmark if there is one nearby....and in the same shot your stick and a tape measure on it and the shadow.....

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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
and summer solstice not equinox
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you think instead it should run in a circle parallel to the flat earth?
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
The earth axis tilt is no more than 24.5 degrees. [link to www.timeanddate.com (secure)]

That means that at the maximum, summer equinox (which is just about now) the sun will be 24.5 degrees higher than average.

I am located at 42 degrees north latitude. I know which way is north, and if anything, the sun is slightly south of vertical at the moment. That means that on the average, the sun at noontime should be 42 degrees below vertical, about 48 degrees above the horizon.

Since 24.5 < 42, it should be impossible that the sun is directly overhead.
 Quoting: 42 degrees north latitude 81887851


Nothing is impossible on a flat earth.

Just ask a believer and they will explain to you how it all really works...
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
10,000 threads like this on GLP and nobody has ever tried to document their sighting of the sun being in the wrong place.....
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
10,000 threads like this on GLP and nobody has ever tried to document their sighting of the sun being in the wrong place.....
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How would I do that? I take a picture (don't really want to post a picture of my house) and someone says it was somewhere else or a different direction.
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
and summer solstice not equinox
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you think instead it should run in a circle parallel to the flat earth?
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No and no.
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
The earth axis tilt is no more than 24.5 degrees. [link to www.timeanddate.com (secure)]

That means that at the maximum, summer equinox (which is just about now) the sun will be 24.5 degrees higher than average.

I am located at 42 degrees north latitude. I know which way is north, and if anything, the sun is slightly south of vertical at the moment. That means that on the average, the sun at noontime should be 42 degrees below vertical, about 48 degrees above the horizon.

Since 24.5 < 42, it should be impossible that the sun is directly overhead.
 Quoting: 42 degrees north latitude 81887851


Nothing is impossible on a flat earth.

Just ask a believer and they will explain to you how it all really works...
 Quoting: Strate8


the flat earth model the sun NEVER is directly over head, it is running parallel to the flat earth plane

so how in that model could it ever be directly over head?
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
and summer solstice not equinox
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you think instead it should run in a circle parallel to the flat earth?
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No and no.
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so where should it be then?

the sun

based off your years and years of astronomy study
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
The earth axis tilt is no more than 24.5 degrees. [link to www.timeanddate.com (secure)]

That means that at the maximum, summer equinox (which is just about now) the sun will be 24.5 degrees higher than average.

I am located at 42 degrees north latitude. I know which way is north, and if anything, the sun is slightly south of vertical at the moment. That means that on the average, the sun at noontime should be 42 degrees below vertical, about 48 degrees above the horizon.

Since 24.5 < 42, it should be impossible that the sun is directly overhead.
 Quoting: 42 degrees north latitude 81887851


Nothing is impossible on a flat earth.

Just ask a believer and they will explain to you how it all really works...
 Quoting: Strate8


the flat earth model the sun NEVER is directly over head, it is running parallel to the flat earth plane

so how in that model could it ever be directly over head?
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Regardless of whether the earth is flat or not it simply HAS to be directly overhead of someone somewhere.
Chill out, its just a Lancashire Rose
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
The earth is flat. Thats why.
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
The earth axis tilt is no more than 24.5 degrees. [link to www.timeanddate.com (secure)]

That means that at the maximum, summer equinox (which is just about now) the sun will be 24.5 degrees higher than average.

I am located at 42 degrees north latitude. I know which way is north, and if anything, the sun is slightly south of vertical at the moment. That means that on the average, the sun at noontime should be 42 degrees below vertical, about 48 degrees above the horizon.

Since 24.5 < 42, it should be impossible that the sun is directly overhead.
 Quoting: 42 degrees north latitude 81887851


so why is it called "high noon"

what's high at noon?
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
if you dont know some1 to take the video of your phone gps.....then go somewhere downtown that can be verified on google maps......

the corner of oak street and river street next to the 711 or whatever....

if you cant get a shot of the time its not too important because you'll be trying to simply get a shot of the shortest shadow.....
in that case just be sure to walk around your stick from a little distance so nobody can claim you're tilting the stick at an angle into the sun as to produce no shadow.... ;)
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
The earth axis tilt is no more than 24.5 degrees. [link to www.timeanddate.com (secure)]

That means that at the maximum, summer equinox (which is just about now) the sun will be 24.5 degrees higher than average.

I am located at 42 degrees north latitude. I know which way is north, and if anything, the sun is slightly south of vertical at the moment. That means that on the average, the sun at noontime should be 42 degrees below vertical, about 48 degrees above the horizon.

Since 24.5 < 42, it should be impossible that the sun is directly overhead.
 Quoting: 42 degrees north latitude 81887851


so why is it called "high noon"

what's high at noon?
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Flat earthers making discoveries
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
The earth axis tilt is no more than 24.5 degrees. [link to www.timeanddate.com (secure)]

That means that at the maximum, summer equinox (which is just about now) the sun will be 24.5 degrees higher than average.

I am located at 42 degrees north latitude. I know which way is north, and if anything, the sun is slightly south of vertical at the moment. That means that on the average, the sun at noontime should be 42 degrees below vertical, about 48 degrees above the horizon.

Since 24.5 < 42, it should be impossible that the sun is directly overhead.
 Quoting: 42 degrees north latitude 81887851


so why is it called "high noon"

what's high at noon?
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Flat earthers making discoveries
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ha...i see what you did there
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
op,if you aint a bot,ive been saying it for over two years on here,us gov doesnt want to admit fuku shifted the earths magnetic axis.high noon is about three oclock.we will know for sure on the 22nd.if its not covered in nasas chemtrails.
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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
The earth axis tilt is no more than 24.5 degrees. [link to www.timeanddate.com (secure)]

That means that at the maximum, summer equinox (which is just about now) the sun will be 24.5 degrees higher than average.

I am located at 42 degrees north latitude. I know which way is north, and if anything, the sun is slightly south of vertical at the moment. That means that on the average, the sun at noontime should be 42 degrees below vertical, about 48 degrees above the horizon.

Since 24.5 < 42, it should be impossible that the sun is directly overhead.
 Quoting: 42 degrees north latitude 81887851


Sigh.
We've gone over this dozens of times with the ignorant PXers and Pole Shitters in years past.
The height of the sun at solar noon on any day is:
Sun Altitude at solar noon = (90°+Sun Declination) - Observer Latitude
On the June solstice the sun's declination is ~+23.4° so the sun's altitude will be:
90°+23.4°-Latitude°
113.4°-Latitude°
At 42° North (=+42°) that will put the maximum sun height above the horizon as:
113.4°-42° = 71.4°
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It's just geometry and basic math...

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Re: Sun is directly overhead right now, that should be impossible
Noticed this myself.
Never had the sun directly over the top of my house. Never.
It has always been south and sometimes further south over the pool depending on the time of year swinging around a line of oak trees.
I also don't recall it setting so far to the northwest outside of my front window. With pink skies till 830pm.
So yeah OP, me too. I live in the south.





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