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Swiss Airspace closed due to System Failure!!! Hacked? Ukraine?

 
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Swiss Airspace closed due to System Failure!!! Hacked? Ukraine?
crazy DOOM?

Never seen anything like this happen before.

link in german. looking for english source

[link to www.20min.ch (secure)]

edit/add: found this english source, but doesn't say much.
[link to www.msn.com (secure)]

edit/add:

skyguide claiming it wasn't a hack... but, why even say that?

edit/add: (zelensky?)

i just did some digging. closing airspace to all traffic isn't something that happens very often it seems. i found a few instances of airspace closing to specific countries due to sanctions or similar, but not something like this.

something major happened and they are not telling us anything.

ukraine and zelensky comes to mind as potential reasons.

they are saying he might try to flee here.

--link not allowed here, it seems--

"Zelensky’s inner circle is buying up expensive real estate in Switzerland"

added source from twitter:


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lol

That means they're flying planes over the region that they don't want the public to know about.

Probably some staging exercises with TR3Bs and shit
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Re: Swiss Airspace closed due to System Failure!!! Hacked? Ukraine?
from the article:
"Due to a system failure at Skyguide, the entire Swiss airspace is closed until further notice, writes air traffic control in a press release. We are working flat out on a solution and regret the disruption. It is unclear how long the disruption will continue."

skyguide is the swiss air traffic control.
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KLAUS ANAL SCHWABBIN N WEF BROS ARE RELEASING THEIR NUKESsiren2siren2siren2


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Wow, THIS does not happen every day...





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lol

That means they're flying planes over the region that they don't want the public to know about.

Probably some staging exercises with TR3Bs and shit
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closed all airspace and cancelled flights for this? they could have done this in the night when flights are not allowed to take off and land here and saved a lot of headaches. planes being rerouted to italy and germany. this is strange.
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article in english:
[link to www.msn.com (secure)]
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06/15/2022 02:43 AM
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article in english:
[link to www.msn.com (secure)]
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Not coolies. Get a better link.
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Probably filling those DUMBs as we speak.
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06/15/2022 02:47 AM

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article in english:
[link to www.msn.com (secure)]
 Quoting: J3


Not coolies. Get a better link.
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fingers not working? can't translate the original link?

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seems they are not releasing much info about this. read this, and especially at the bottom where it says reprinted as received from syndication:
[link to www.ndtv.com (secure)]

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Seems back on. AA92 from PHL and LX257 from TLV now approaching ZRH.
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Seems back on. AA92 from PHL and LX257 from TLV now approaching ZRH.
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cheers. will keep on this.
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Re: Swiss Airspace closed due to System Failure!!! Hacked? Ukraine?
bbc article says something interesting and scary...

less than 50
"Skyguide spokesman Vladi Barrosa told Tagesanzeiger news website that the problem appeared to be a hardware fault and they did not believe their system had been hacked: "Our technicians are working flat out to fix the fault.""


[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]
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Re: Swiss Airspace closed due to System Failure!!! Hacked? Ukraine?
bbc article says something interesting and scary...

less than 50
"Skyguide spokesman Vladi Barrosa told Tagesanzeiger news website that the problem appeared to be a hardware fault and they did not believe their system had been hacked: "Our technicians are working flat out to fix the fault.""


[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]
 Quoting: J3



Wow, that IS scary. And indeed, flights are still not landing or taking off, the AA and LX flights apparently came down as exceptions - probably just using radio and visual approach then?
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Get ready for Russian invasion.
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06/15/2022 03:36 AM

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bbc article says something interesting and scary...

less than 50
"Skyguide spokesman Vladi Barrosa told Tagesanzeiger news website that the problem appeared to be a hardware fault and they did not believe their system had been hacked: "Our technicians are working flat out to fix the fault.""


[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]
 Quoting: J3



Wow, that IS scary. And indeed, flights are still not landing or taking off, the AA and LX flights apparently came down as exceptions - probably just using radio and visual approach then?
 Quoting: Karlgel


bbc now saying airspce open again.
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Swiss airspace re-opens after ‘technical malfunction’

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06/15/2022 03:42 AM

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some interesting points about the above article i linked:

"Skyguide did not give any details about the computer crash."

Swiss International Air Lines said External linkarriving long-haul flights were being diverted to various airports in neighbouring countries, including Milan, Lyon and Vienna. Short-haul flights are currently not taking off, it said.
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bump

this is big. yes, airspace slowly opening, but this is still big.

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connection? no clue, pure speculation. if so, the happenings of today could be from either side. again, i have no clue, pure speculation from my uncle...

"They love Ukraine so much that they decided not to live in it."


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this is big. yes, airspace slowly opening, but this is still big.

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Putting all of the good and decent average people in harms way just to accommodate Zelinsky and company aka Ukrainian Mafia?! Disgusting!
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bump

this is big. yes, airspace slowly opening, but this is still big.

pin
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I told you already what it is. Go to your bunker before it's too late.
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we actually all have bunkers here. most in out apartment building basement or nearby, so no need to hurry.
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Putting all of the good and decent average people in harms way just to accommodate Zelinsky and company aka Ukrainian Mafia?! Disgusting!
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again, it is only speculation that tis has something to do with zelensky. it could also, theoretically have to do with russia/ukrain conflict. there was mention that it was not a hack, which is interesting. no idea. the only thing i found is that this is not something that happens very often. i couldn't find any instances of it happening unless it was specifically against a particular group (where airspace remained open to everyone else). or in times of no fly zones/war.

maybe someone else can find other examples. i just think it is kinda crazy.
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Re: Swiss Airspace closed due to System Failure!!! Hacked? Ukraine?
This just goes to show and continues to emphasize our most important systems for commerce and safety are not perfect or beyond failures.

As we saw in Texas the all important electric power grid, numerous computer failures in airline scheduling and air traffic control vulnerabilities because of Covid, life can become very precarious without warning.

Its only a matter of time before something far more important should fail affecting millions throwing all into a life threatening scenario.





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