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Saudi Arabia Farm, and UAE DEPLETING Arizona WATER SOURCES and then EXPORTING it to China

 
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The stupid never ends.

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Should be illegal for foreign countries to own land in US.

We can't own land in UAE, Saudi, or many other countries, why should they be able to buy here?
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Good question.

Why is there never reciprocity.


Same with all the illegals coming to our countries. If I want to get a visa to live in one or the other African countries (and not only) they will not give it to me.

Yet we accept their people, illegals, and they get perks and free medical care for them and their children.

Saudis and UAE can buy everything they want. Why are we selling out to them??

Most of the landmark legacy hotels in Paris are owned by Saudis and Qatar they have them managed by luxury hotel chains.

UAE are buying top prime real estate.

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It would be a shame if it all caught fire right before harvest.
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Good find Pool. Thanks!
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This.
It's NEVER too late to nuke a Muslim stronghold.
Especially if it's a "holy place".

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Sadly The US appears to have become a colony to foreign interests.
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They've been doing this for years in California. Alfalfa is a huge, water-thirsty crop in California, and the majority of it is shipped off to feed Arab livestock in countries where they are too smart to waste water on animal feed.
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They're shipping the water to China? Or the hay? Bales of hay to China? I'm skeptical.
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[link to www.hallshay.com (secure)]

54,000lbs of hay into a shipping container. 17,000 cans to fill the boat
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They're shipping the water to China? Or the hay? Bales of hay to China? I'm skeptical.
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Compressed hay/cubes ships pretty well
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They're shipping the water to China? Or the hay? Bales of hay to China? I'm skeptical.
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Lot's of the hay grown around the pacific northwest region gets exported to China, why not from AZ?
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Already pined last month.
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Wtf.....5 star find
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07/05/2022 05:22 PM
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Outside of Phoenix, in the scorching Arizona desert, sits a farm that Saudi Arabia’s largest dairy uses to make hay for cows back home.

That dairy company, named Almarai, bought the farm last year and has planted thousands of acres of groundwater-guzzling alfalfa to make that hay. Saudi Arabia can’t grow its own hay anymore because those crops drained its own ancient aquifer.

Reporter Nathan Halverson tells NPR’s Renee Montagne that Almarai bought about 15 square miles in the Arizona desert.

“They got about 15 water wells when they purchased the property. Now, each one of those wells can pump about 1.5 billion gallons of water. It’s an incredible amount of water they’re going to be drawing up from that aquifer underground,” Halverson says.

The land in question had previously been under cultivation for corn, cotton and other crops, including smaller amounts of alfalfa for hay, he tells The Salt. Halverson’s sources told him that the farm is now consuming significantly more water, since alfalfa is a particularly thirsty crop.

...we see a sign for a company from United Arab Emirates, Al Dahra, and we realize that another company has come out here and essentially replicated the exact same thing. They are growing hay. They are using the groundwater. And they are shipping it overseas — in this case, we were told, to China.

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Thank your govt for allowing this.
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07/05/2022 05:25 PM
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So what scumbag "american" sold their land to Saudi?
Don't blame foreigners if you slob on their knobs for a dollar.
You would sell your mother for a dollar.
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The article is from 2015.
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Anybody ever consider that DUMBs have tunnelled underground pipes into Lake Mead and other big lakes/aquifers/reservoirs/etc and can empty them out into their own storage caverns at will?
Maybe they just stocked generations worth of water just before nuke fallout covers the land?
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07/05/2022 06:00 PM
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So can You!
sell the water on your land?
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07/05/2022 06:02 PM
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I doubt this is true, and if it is, it's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in my life.

First, because water is an abundant resource on planet Earth.
Second, Saudi Arabia (and China) borders two coastal strips.
Third, the energy cost of extracting water from a region of Arizona to transport to Saudi Arabia (or China one) is much more expensive than using existing desalination technology.

Do people nowadays no longer know the laws of thermodynamics and Lavoisier's laws?

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Outside of Phoenix, in the scorching Arizona desert, sits a farm that Saudi Arabia’s largest dairy uses to make hay for cows back home.

That dairy company, named Almarai, bought the farm last year and has planted thousands of acres of groundwater-guzzling alfalfa to make that hay. Saudi Arabia can’t grow its own hay anymore because those crops drained its own ancient aquifer.

Reporter Nathan Halverson tells NPR’s Renee Montagne that Almarai bought about 15 square miles in the Arizona desert.

“They got about 15 water wells when they purchased the property. Now, each one of those wells can pump about 1.5 billion gallons of water. It’s an incredible amount of water they’re going to be drawing up from that aquifer underground,” Halverson says.

The land in question had previously been under cultivation for corn, cotton and other crops, including smaller amounts of alfalfa for hay, he tells The Salt. Halverson’s sources told him that the farm is now consuming significantly more water, since alfalfa is a particularly thirsty crop.

...we see a sign for a company from United Arab Emirates, Al Dahra, and we realize that another company has come out here and essentially replicated the exact same thing. They are growing hay. They are using the groundwater. And they are shipping it overseas — in this case, we were told, to China.

[link to www.mintpressnews.com (secure)]
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Yep called the gov and AG office about this months ago.. not a peep...
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Outside of Phoenix, in the scorching Arizona desert, sits a farm that Saudi Arabia’s largest dairy uses to make hay for cows back home.

That dairy company, named Almarai, bought the farm last year and has planted thousands of acres of groundwater-guzzling alfalfa to make that hay. Saudi Arabia can’t grow its own hay anymore because those crops drained its own ancient aquifer.

Reporter Nathan Halverson tells NPR’s Renee Montagne that Almarai bought about 15 square miles in the Arizona desert.

“They got about 15 water wells when they purchased the property. Now, each one of those wells can pump about 1.5 billion gallons of water. It’s an incredible amount of water they’re going to be drawing up from that aquifer underground,” Halverson says.

The land in question had previously been under cultivation for corn, cotton and other crops, including smaller amounts of alfalfa for hay, he tells The Salt. Halverson’s sources told him that the farm is now consuming significantly more water, since alfalfa is a particularly thirsty crop.

...we see a sign for a company from United Arab Emirates, Al Dahra, and we realize that another company has come out here and essentially replicated the exact same thing. They are growing hay. They are using the groundwater. And they are shipping it overseas — in this case, we were told, to China.

[link to www.mintpressnews.com (secure)]
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7 years ago.
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And...?

You left out the Update.
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07/05/2022 06:14 PM
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So can You!
sell the water on your land?
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You have a Right to water,
You have No Right to profit from water.
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Saudis doing the same thing in northwest Arizona outside Kingman in Mohave County. Got the deal for $25/acre. Just as soon as geologists determine that there is no longer a 100-year water table underneath the area, all the homes will be essentially worthless on the real estate market.
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7 years ago.
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Well, now we know why Lake Mead is depleted of water!

Finally can connect the dots.
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They're shipping the water to China? Or the hay? Bales of hay to China? I'm skeptical.
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China sends container ships here filled with manufactured goods. Do they go back empty?

Or do they go back filled with hay?
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Saudis doing the same thing in northwest Arizona outside Kingman in Mohave County. Got the deal for $25/acre. Just as soon as geologists determine that there is no longer a 100-year water table underneath the area, all the homes will be essentially worthless on the real estate market.
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They've determined that 'everyone was running out of water' back when they've determined that 'everyone was running out of oil'.

It's all Market Manipulation.



They 'find' gold, when they want the price down,
They 'run out' of oil, when they want the price up.

Lately, they've been 'loosing' livestock to disease. Guess where meat prices are?




From the local weed dealer to big international corporations,
This garbage has been going on forever.
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"NATIONAL PUBLIC RADIO
NOVEMBER 3RD, 2015"

Try posting something from 2022 next time.
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Should be illegal for foreign countries to own land in US.

We can't own land in UAE, Saudi, or many other countries, why should they be able to buy here?
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hesright
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07/05/2022 06:52 PM

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I suspect in Canada too, and then selling us reverse osmosis sewage water, and sending all our water to China with the governments approval.

You can't have this kind of system. Neither the left nor the right protect the nations. You actually have to have strong protective laws, not selling farms to huge monopolies and rich arseholes like Blackrock and Gates, or foreigners, and not allowing foreigners to buy all your resources and sell them off, in this giant free for all, free enterprise without rules.

You also have to have price control on all necessities like Norway had for decades and maintained highest standard of living in the world, strong economic business models, both right and left combined. But their housing food and utilities were priced down low as necessities, not investments so people OWNED houses, the working poor OWNED houses.

And you can't have exploitative government and banks who keep interests down, get everyone to buy then crash the system, and raise interest and steal everyone's belongings and homes. FUCK THAT.

Strong rules and prison for exploiters with assets protected!
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7 years ago.
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Well, now we know why Lake Mead is depleted of water!

Finally can connect the dots.
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Lake Mead (and Powell) is 'depleted of water' because they opened up the gates.

Check the water levels of all the other Lakes in the Colorado basin, They are near normal.
It's funny how this "drought" only affected that part of the river.

And all the natural lakes are full, because there's no gate to open.
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Who owned it before and sold it to them and what is their neck measurement?





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