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Israel isn't a country in the Middle East.

 
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Israel isn't a country in the Middle East.
Biblical scripture says that Israel in our time is a Spiritual body of believers under a New Covenant made for all men through the reconciliation of sin, due to the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Those of Spiritual Israel under the New Covenant are joined with those of Israel born of blood under the first Covenant.

Israel is scattered among the Nations, not by displacement, but due to this calling of adoption.

This is the same calling that tells us not to be conformed to the World, but to be separate from it.

Agenda 2030 is Babylon reborn. It's Spiritual in nature also.

God's people will not willingly participate in this Satanic Agenda.

See; Genesis 11

See; Romans 11

As Jesus says;

John 10:16
“And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”


In the above verse, Jesus is speaking about those in the old testament under the old covenant being joined with those in the new testament under the new covenant. The calling of the Gentiles as part of his body and bride.
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Not surprising that no one had a response or something of value to add to what I shared on this thread topic.

The lack of response and interest in the truth of this obvious revelation is also scriptural.

2 Timothy 4
4 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

Everyone rages about the state of the world, yet, most can't see it for it is and why. They don't study the word of God which tells us these things come because of the Godlessness that permeates the lifestyles they live and lead.

In Jesus' own words;

Matthew 7:14
“Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”

We are all plants in Gods garden. They type of plant you are is determined by your recognition of Who planted you and the purpose of that planting.

Matthew Chapter 13
18Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.


Are you a weed fit for the fire?

Or

Are you part of the harvest meant to be kept for your good and virtuous nature as such?

God says if you don't know Him, likewise, He also doesn't know you.

How do you know God? You study His scripture and Word, and then you live your life according to it.

Not a lot of people doing that nowadays.

Why? They are seeds of Satan.

Then there are those who claim to be doing Gods will, but in truth, also are not.

God also says He doesn't know those people as well.
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Jesus died for all men, but only those who acknowledge this and live by God's Word, even doing it are counted as worthy of His Sacrifice.

The bible isn't about some Country in the Middle East. It's about everyone who has ever lived, is currently alive or who has yet to be born being called as Sons of God.

If you don't believe scripture applies to you, or that it isn't important to follow God's Commandments, Statutes and Judgment, then you are a bad seed. You are a tare, which is a weed.


2 Corinthians
Chapter 5
1For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

2For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

3If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

4For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

5Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.

6Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

7(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

8We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

9Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.

10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

11Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

12For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart.

13For whether we be beside ourselves, it is to God: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause.

14For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:

15And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

16Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

17Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

18And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

20Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

21For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
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I've been saying this for years.

Isreal is a people not a patch of land.
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Look at the butthurt fakers that are jealous of us real believers.
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I've been saying this for years.

Isreal is a people not a patch of land.
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Scripture show this is the truth.

Satan doesn't wish for people to come to the truth.

He has one star agents working for him. Scripture calls them tares.....

Not only do people like these one star agents (tares) reject the truth, but they also hide it so others can't find it.

Romans 2 says that even the *** who reject Jesus is appointed to wrath, anguish and tribulation. First them, and then the Gentiles who also do evil.

John 4:24
“God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”
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1 John 2:21 Context

18Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 19They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 20But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. 21I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. 22Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 24Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
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Christians are Spiritual Israel – Biblical Proofs [link to www.therockofoffence.com (secure)]

That is not to say that all who profess to be a Christian are.
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but which people if it's not a country. that verse about th e new covenant being with the house of israel? are the people in the middle east sandbox the ones of the new covenant? the dispersion is who, exactly.
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Although, of course, you are most certain that you do,

you do not understand.
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Hard pass on all of their shit.
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but which people if it's not a country. that verse about th e new covenant being with the house of israel? are the people in the middle east sandbox the ones of the new covenant? the dispersion is who, exactly.
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Anyone who is called and heeds the calling is Israel through adoption, as long as they remain as such and don't turn back once having learned this truth.

YOU can be Israel, but only if you heed the calling. Anyone can be an Israelite if they only heed the calling and remain in it.

God's plan for humanity isn't just reserved for those which can't be named.

Which is why Jesus says;

John 10:16
“And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”

Jesus has already claimed those who came before Him and died in righteousness. They came out of the graves and went with Him as first fruits of the harvest under the old Covenant.

Under the New Covenant, which Christ brought as was the will of Our Father, the gentiles are called to the conversion. They are adopted as Sons and Daughters along with those "other people" who were under the Old Covenant and died in it, which was done away with so that all people could be reconciled to God.
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I've been saying this for years.

Isreal is a people not a patch of land.
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And after years, you are still so dumb that you cannot understand or even spell Is ra el.

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So the Old Testament means absolutely nothing now

because you say you are here and it's all about you now!
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Replacement Theology.
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Jesus condemns all of them

because Jesus praises YOU!
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Grab your balls and let's chat.
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You think you show how real your Faith is by shitting on Them first?!
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Thread: Israel is There Because God Said So When God Said So.


Chuck Missler.





"Prophetic Simile

The Prophet Ezekiel was called upon to undertake a number of strange performances, one of which was to lie on his side for a total of 430 days. 1 Each day was expressly to represent a year of judgment against the nation.

A number of commentators acknowledge a difficulty which appears when one attempts to apply this specifically to Israel's history. Seventy of the years would seem to be accounted for in the Babylonian Captivity, but that leaves 360 years (430 minus 70) unaccounted for. 2 The 360 years do not seem to fit any period of their history.


Leviticus 26

It has been suggested by some that there might be a clue in Leviticus 26, where God indicates that:

...if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. - Leviticus 26:18

(In fact, this commitment is reiterated four times in that chapter for emphasis.3 )

It has been suggested that multiplying the "problem" 360 years by seven yields 2520 years, which is "approximately" the duration of time from the exile through the Diaspora.

This seemed rather contrived. Furthermore, it had bothered me since I never like to use the term "approximately" and "God" in the same sentence! I felt that if it was meant to fit, it would fit precisely.

Calendar Reconciliation

Sir Robert Anderson, in his classic work The Coming Prince, 4 noted that the Bible uses 360-day years in both Genesis and Revelation.5 However, I noticed that no one seemed to try to apply this insight to the 2520 years potentially suggested in Ezekiel Chapter 4..."

"...Thus, 2520 360-day years contain 907,200 days, which are accounted for on our current calendar as 2483 years, 9 months and 21 days:"


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"Great. But what do we do with this? Where do we begin to apply it?

Terminus Ad Quem

Another problem occurs when we examine more closely the "Babylonian Captivity." There are two different periods that are candidates: "the Servitude of the Nation," and the "Desolations of Jerusalem." Each of these was prophesied to be seventy years in duration and many assume they are synonymous of each other; however, they are not.

There were actually three sieges of Nebuchadnezzar upon Jerusalem. The first siege began the "Servitude of the Nation" and was prophesied to last 70 years. (And it did, to the very day.8 When Cyrus conquered Babylon he encountered the amazing letter written to him by Isaiah a century and a half earlier, which addressed him by name, highlighted his meteoric career, and predicted that he would free the captives. His astonishment resulted in his releasing the He***w captives to return to Judea to rebuild their temple.)..."

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"...The first siege of Nebuchadnezzar, in 606 B.C., began the "Servitude of the Nation," which lasted until the summer of 537 B.C. If July 23, 537 B.C. was the time of their release:

-537y 7m 23d
+1 (no year "0")
2483y 9m 21d

1948 5 14

On May 14, 1948, the nation Israel was reestablished on the world scene. A remarkable coincidence. Isaiah appears to have highlighted this very restoration:

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. -Isaiah 11:11, 12

Yet, there is another alternative application of the 2520 years:

The "Desolations of Jerusalem"?

The third siege of Nebuchad-nezzar, in 587 B.C., began the "Desolations of Jerusalem," which lasted until 518 B.C. If August 16, 518 B.C. was the completion of the walls of Jerusalem, then:

-518y 8m 16d
+1 (no year "0")
2483y 9m 21d

1967 6 7

On June 7, 1967, as a result of the Six Day War, the Biblical city of Old Jerusalem was restored to the nation. Another remarkable coincidence!

It should be borne in mind that the "starting" dates are not known precisely to the day. More research needs to be done. But this certainly seems provocative enough to ponder."

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So the Old Testament means absolutely nothing now

because you say you are here and it's all about you now!
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Look at what the word TESTAMENT means! So yes, the old is replaced by the new.

It is what Christ came to do.

Testament
A covenant; an agreement.
For where a TESTAMENT is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a TESTAMENT is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. Whereupon neither the first TESTAMENT was dedicated without blood. ( Hebrews 9:16-18 ) [link to www.biblestudytools.com (secure)]
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RATM hates White people
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OP,

What is God's very Purpose for The Tribulation?

What is your understanding of the conclusion of God's Book The Bible?

hmm


OP,

WHY does Jesus Christ return to the Jwes in Jerusalem in Israel?


hmm


OP,

WHEN does Jesus Christ return to the Jwes in Jerusalem in Israel?


hmm


Do you understand anything

while you come here to shit on Israel?!


hmm
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So the Old Testament means absolutely nothing now

because you say you are here and it's all about you now!
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It's about all of us, not just me.

However, if you reject it, then of course it isn't about you.

If you reject it, you have no part with God.

It really is that simple.
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Thread: What is The Purpose of the Bible's End Times Tribulation?
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I've been saying this for years.

Isreal is a people not a patch of land.
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And after years, you are still so dumb that you cannot understand or even spell Is ra el.

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Most people misspell it on purpose to avoid the AI bots roaming the forum and internet to stop being put in some kind of Orwellian data base.
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Biblical scripture says that Israel in our time is a Spiritual body of believers under a New Covenant made for all men through the reconciliation of sin, due to the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
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WRONGOLA.


What you speak of is known as the Body of Christ.

Israel is NOT the Body of Christ.



Spiritualize away Israel uh?

Jehovah says differently in His Word.
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"The Purpose of the Great Tribulation

The purpose of this ordeal, the Time of Jacobs Trouble, is to drive Israel en extremis, to return to God:

I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me earnestly (Hosea 5:15).

Interesting Old Testament passage: God says, I will go and return to my place. To return, He must have left it! Watch those untils in the text: they often denote significant milestones. The term offence is singular and specific.

Apparently, a prerequisite condition for the Second Coming of Christ is for Israel to acknowledge her Messiah and to petition His return.

When the faithful remnant petitions Jesus to return, He comes to rescue them."

Jesus comes back to the J*ws!

Yeshua
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