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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22255432 United States 05/28/2022 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, I am a Christian. I am interested in other people's opinion on which version they think is true. I know that I am saved, so it hasn't really mattered to me in what order things happen. Am I missing something? Why is knowing the true version important for Christians? Quoting: GaryMule Thanks in advance Pre-Wrath Check into it You'll never question rapture timing again |
S.O.S.
User ID: 82507630 United States 05/28/2022 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pre-tribe as the Early Church Fathers wrote and taught about (so much for the pre-trib Rapture being a "recent teaching"). You should look into Ken Johnson's videos. Last Edited by S.O.S. on 05/28/2022 04:44 PM Govt (CIA/Army/Navy/KGB) docs in “Government Documents Admit Flat Earth” [link to youtu.be (secure)] Globbers look up in trying to prove the world is a globe. They should be looking down at the Earth they stand on. How stars work in the FE model: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83198172 United States 05/28/2022 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, I am a Christian. I am interested in other people's opinion on which version they think is true. I know that I am saved, so it hasn't really mattered to me in what order things happen. Am I missing something? Why is knowing the true version important for Christians? Quoting: GaryMule Thanks in advance 100% Pre Trib. Studied it for over 30 yrs. People who think otherwise have failed to rightly divide God's Word. |
S.O.S.
User ID: 82507630 United States 05/28/2022 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, I am a Christian. I am interested in other people's opinion on which version they think is true. I know that I am saved, so it hasn't really mattered to me in what order things happen. Am I missing something? Why is knowing the true version important for Christians? Quoting: GaryMule Thanks in advance 100% Pre Trib. Studied it for over 30 yrs. People who think otherwise have failed to rightly divide God's Word. Govt (CIA/Army/Navy/KGB) docs in “Government Documents Admit Flat Earth” [link to youtu.be (secure)] Globbers look up in trying to prove the world is a globe. They should be looking down at the Earth they stand on. How stars work in the FE model: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 83459241 United States 05/28/2022 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 100% Pre Trib. Studied it for over 30 yrs. People who think otherwise have failed to rightly divide God's Word. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83198172 The only 'studying' you did was to look up the verses THEY have given to that supposedly support the nonsense. Thread: THERE WILL BE NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE..here is why..IF you have the guts to read it. Thread: After the Tribulation: Revisited - NO Pre-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study Christian Theology Thread: Pre-Trib Rapture? How Does the Last Trump Happen BEFORE that? - KJV Bible Sutdy Thread: The Great Tribulation is Not Wrath - Rapture End Times - KJV Bible Study I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
wisconsin human
User ID: 42896231 United States 05/28/2022 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . ... my husband studied the churches of revelation and I studied the seals ... . ... my study lead me to these conclusions ... . ... seals 1-4 are "horsemen/horses" because they cover a lot of time from when Yeshua returned to Heaven ... and until He calls His Bride/Rapture we are experiencing THE-GREAT-IN- LENGTH-OF-TIME-TRIBULATION ... . ... and my reading of 1666 makes me think seal 5 is indeed the destruction of aij, especially in wwII ... . ... seal 6 will be marked by a space event ... wrath of The Lamb ... . ... and seal 7 is then opened which has the wrath of YHVH at the end ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
Mother Maggie
User ID: 83417648 United States 05/28/2022 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, I am a Christian. I am interested in other people's opinion on which version they think is true. I know that I am saved, so it hasn't really mattered to me in what order things happen. Am I missing something? Why is knowing the true version important for Christians? Quoting: GaryMule Thanks in advance being christian does not "save".. your seeking and growing does... all people seeking God and growing themselves on purpose are "saved".... And that is on all planets bearing human intelligence... all 5.6 TRILLION of them. Last Edited by Mother Maggie on 05/29/2022 03:29 PM Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO |
Mother Maggie
User ID: 83417648 United States 05/28/2022 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rapture is fusing with your Inner Father. once you have reached a high level of consciousness. and it is individual.. but during there Magnetic reversal.. a whole group will be doing this and it has nothing to do with a religion... Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO |
S.O.S.
User ID: 82507630 United States 05/28/2022 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, I am a Christian. I am interested in other people's opinion on which version they think is true. I know that I am saved, so it hasn't really mattered to me in what order things happen. Am I missing something? Why is knowing the true version important for Christians? Quoting: GaryMule Thanks in advance being christian does not "save".. you seeking and growing does... all people seeking God and growing themselves on purpose are "saved".... And that is on all planets bearing human intelligence... all 5.6 TRILLION of them. More new age lies that will lead people to hell. Good job, you are serving your master well. Govt (CIA/Army/Navy/KGB) docs in “Government Documents Admit Flat Earth” [link to youtu.be (secure)] Globbers look up in trying to prove the world is a globe. They should be looking down at the Earth they stand on. How stars work in the FE model: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
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Achduke7
User ID: 80091110 United States 05/28/2022 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, I am a Christian. I am interested in other people's opinion on which version they think is true. I know that I am saved, so it hasn't really mattered to me in what order things happen. Am I missing something? Why is knowing the true version important for Christians? Quoting: GaryMule Thanks in advance Its not a rapture. The rapture doctrine is false. It is the resurrection and then the hapazo(catching up) happens in our new bodies after we are raised from the dead first and then like enoch those that are still alive will get new bodies and be caught up also. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Achduke |
Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 83459241 United States 05/28/2022 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | being christian does not "save".. you seeking and growing does... all people seeking God and growing themselves on purpose are "saved".... And that is on all planets bearing human intelligence... all 5.6 TRILLION of them. Quoting: Mother Maggie Hogwash. Gnostic gnonsense. Folks like you CLAIM to be 'seekers of truth' yet REJECT the evidence that PROVES the Bible to be accurate. You REJECT the evidence and truth of it because of your dislike / hatred for the one True Living God of the Bible. Free Will allows you to make that choice - but it doesn't mean your choices are the right ones. You'd rather claim there's another 'no name / unknown' god. Jesus TOLD us the importance of the Father's name. Thread: The Importance of Father God's Name in the Hebrews Language - in the Future - It is Now I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 83459241 United States 05/28/2022 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rapture is fusing with your Inner Father. once you have reached a high level of consciousness. and it is individual.. but during there Magnetic reversal.. a whole group will be doing this and it has nothing to do with a religion... Quoting: Mother Maggie I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81073151 United States 05/28/2022 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No Pre Unless you are one of the 144,000 Mid to End maybe Because “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." 9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed. |
Mother Maggie
User ID: 83417648 United States 05/28/2022 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rapture is fusing with your Inner Father. once you have reached a high level of consciousness. and it is individual.. but during there Magnetic reversal.. a whole group will be doing this and it has nothing to do with a religion... Quoting: Mother Maggie your ignorance is outstanding Servant. Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO |
S.O.S.
User ID: 82507630 United States 05/28/2022 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, I am a Christian. I am interested in other people's opinion on which version they think is true. I know that I am saved, so it hasn't really mattered to me in what order things happen. Am I missing something? Why is knowing the true version important for Christians? Quoting: GaryMule Thanks in advance Its not a rapture. The rapture doctrine is false. It is the resurrection and then the hapazo(catching up) happens in our new bodies after we are raised from the dead first and then like enoch those that are still alive will get new bodies and be caught up also. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. You are blinded by pride. Govt (CIA/Army/Navy/KGB) docs in “Government Documents Admit Flat Earth” [link to youtu.be (secure)] Globbers look up in trying to prove the world is a globe. They should be looking down at the Earth they stand on. How stars work in the FE model: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 83459241 United States 05/28/2022 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 100% Pre Trib. Studied it for over 30 yrs. People who think otherwise have failed to rightly divide God's Word. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83198172 Is Christ divided? How many Gospels are there? Thread: One Gospel - Or Multiple Gospels - KJV Bible Study Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 83459241 United States 05/28/2022 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Compare what Paul says to what Jesus says. It's the SAME event - the Second Coming. Thread: After the Tribulation Documentary - NO Pre-Trib Rapture 1. No scripture states that Believers / "the Church" will miss Tribulation. 2. No scripture states that Jesus returns BEFORE "the day of the Lord". 3. No scripture states that Jesus returns MORE than once. 4. No scripture states that Jesus takes "the Church" to heaven for any period of time. 5. No scripture states that Tribulation only happens to the Hebrews. Jesus clearly states that it will encompase the entire Earth. ..... The pre-trib rapture is based on this passage by Paul. 1 Thessalonians 4 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. ......... Key phrases. 0. "we which are alive and remain" Those are Believers - including Elect - that weren't killed prior to Jesus' return. Remain from what? The Tribulation. These are the same that Jesus states 'he who overcomes' etc... 1. "THE coming of the Lord". Jesus returns once. No scripture states otherwise. 2. "trump of God". This is the "last trump" that Paul speaks of in 1 Corinthians 15:52. For further reference, see the Seven Trumpets of Revelation. This is echoed in Matthew 24. 3. "caught up together". This is the First Resurrection mentioned in Revelation. 4. "in the clouds". Jesus used the SAME phrase describing His Return. 5. "alive and remain" also matches the words "endureth to the end" (Matthew 10:22) "endure unto the end" (Mark 13:13) and "overcometh" (Revelation 2:26) 6. Jesus returns "after the Tribulation". Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 7. Tribulation is not wrath. Scripture proves this. Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 05/28/2022 05:20 PM I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73937790 United States 05/28/2022 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, I am a Christian. I am interested in other people's opinion on which version they think is true. I know that I am saved, so it hasn't really mattered to me in what order things happen. Am I missing something? Why is knowing the true version important for Christians? Quoting: GaryMule Thanks in advance Pre-Wrath Check into it You'll never question rapture timing again Answering Op question. Planting the seed. Trying to lead others to Christ and spread the gospel, before it is to late. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73937790 United States 05/28/2022 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No Pre Unless you are one of the 144,000 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81073151 Mid to End maybe Because “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." 9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed. Tribulation Saints. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73937790 United States 05/28/2022 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, I am a Christian. I am interested in other people's opinion on which version they think is true. I know that I am saved, so it hasn't really mattered to me in what order things happen. Am I missing something? Why is knowing the true version important for Christians? Quoting: GaryMule Thanks in advance John 3:16 |
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GaryMule
(OP) User ID: 75768309 United States 05/28/2022 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question is though as a Christian who is saved, and other Christians know what that really means, do the details of the rapture and other details of events really matter? Or are they just a curious thig to discuss? |
GaryMule
(OP) User ID: 75768309 United States 05/28/2022 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, the link is in my sig line. I closed the old channel "gary mule" and took a break for a long time. I am just getting back to making videos. Thanks |
Mother Maggie
User ID: 83417648 United States 05/28/2022 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the earth is about to enter her eternity.. I would advise stopping this crap since you cannot see at all... we have been in that tribulation stop waiting on it.. it is here Yea though I walk thru the valley of gross inability to recognize the absurd ..lies...propaganda and dark shits... I will fear it all NOT.. for THOU ART WITH ME. AND JESUS SAID ON THE CROSS.. FORGIVE THEM FATHER.. THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO |
Galaxee
User ID: 81952660 United States 05/28/2022 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, I am a Christian. I am interested in other people's opinion on which version they think is true. I know that I am saved, so it hasn't really mattered to me in what order things happen. Am I missing something? Why is knowing the true version important for Christians? Quoting: GaryMule Thanks in advance First question, if you’re really saved do you keep all the commandments or at least try? Do you observe Sabbath which is on the seventh day, do you not eat unclean foods like bacon, are you totally devoted to YAHUAH and do you do all that our Messiah did as an example to us?...this is just a few questions to ask yourself...if you cannot do even those basics then you have to rethink your salvation. I know what you’re going to say as far as salvation, I was the same, but now if the Holy Spirit truly lives in you then you’ll be compelled to do those things...no if’s or butts about it! At least try to do the best in obeying the commandments that are relevant to our times.. Of course some of those commandments are not all for you, i. e. if you’re a male or female, a farmer or a business person...try to obey the ones that relate to you, at least keep the Sabbath as he commanded us to remember. Funny how it is the one commandment that He said to “remember”... Galaxee “Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has overcome.” Booker T Washington |
Galaxee
User ID: 81952660 United States 05/28/2022 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Compare what Paul says to what Jesus says. It's the SAME event - the Second Coming. Thread: After the Tribulation Documentary - NO Pre-Trib Rapture 1. No scripture states that Believers / "the Church" will miss Tribulation. 2. No scripture states that Jesus returns BEFORE "the day of the Lord". 3. No scripture states that Jesus returns MORE than once. 4. No scripture states that Jesus takes "the Church" to heaven for any period of time. 5. No scripture states that Tribulation only happens to the Hebrews. Jesus clearly states that it will encompase the entire Earth. ..... The pre-trib rapture is based on this passage by Paul. 1 Thessalonians 4 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. ......... Key phrases. 0. "we which are alive and remain" Those are Believers - including Elect - that weren't killed prior to Jesus' return. Remain from what? The Tribulation. These are the same that Jesus states 'he who overcomes' etc... 1. "THE coming of the Lord". Jesus returns once. No scripture states otherwise. 2. "trump of God". This is the "last trump" that Paul speaks of in 1 Corinthians 15:52. For further reference, see the Seven Trumpets of Revelation. This is echoed in Matthew 24. 3. "caught up together". This is the First Resurrection mentioned in Revelation. 4. "in the clouds". Jesus used the SAME phrase describing His Return. 5. "alive and remain" also matches the words "endureth to the end" (Matthew 10:22) "endure unto the end" (Mark 13:13) and "overcometh" (Revelation 2:26) 6. Jesus returns "after the Tribulation". Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 7. Tribulation is not wrath. Scripture proves this. You’re right tribulation is actually for the believers not the unsaved since they’re already lost, it’s the final test we’ll have to endure, till the end...and if it means you’ll lose your life for Him then it is the endurance proving you’re truly His sheep! Galaxee “Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has overcome.” Booker T Washington |
Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 83459241 United States 05/28/2022 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pre-Trib believers would have us believe that even though Christians have been going through various tribulation for the last 2000 years that we won't have to go through the Great Tribulation. That makes no Biblical nor historical sense. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |