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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 82371988 05/28/2022 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My chemistry teacher was a clown, talked mostly about his son playing tennis, etc. Taught just about nothing during class time. I was failing miserably the whole year. I didn't have a clue. At the end of the year, when I knew I had to pass regents, etc., I took a night class to learn it. I learned a whole year of chemistry in just 12 hours. Yup. The teacher of that class was a great teacher! Got a B on the state regents. Not bad for someone that had learned nothing from 10 months of a clown teacher. Bad teachers can cause tremendous anxiety for students. He was one of several bad teachers I had had. Our whole education system needs to be changed or dismantled. It's a joke. And we're paying for this garbage through taxes. Enough said. |
MrCoolone
 User ID: 33106931 United States05/28/2022 11:26 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As Confucius says “By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.” |
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| nimmerfall
User ID: 81451738 United States05/28/2022 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, you taught yourself to read by reading a book? Fuckin Awesome. 7 starts for u buttercup. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79966791 I learned to speak too before I went to any school. My parents and grand parents taught me the alphabet. Actually not that hard for me. Sorry it was tough on you. that's usually how it goes. What's the point of this thread again? Piercing my heart there is a golden dagger; that is God Piercing God's heart there is a golden needle; that is me |
| Moonpie (OP) User ID: 79261622 United States05/28/2022 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My chemistry teacher was a clown, talked mostly about his son playing tennis, etc. Taught just about nothing during class time. I was failing miserably the whole year. I didn't have a clue. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82371988 At the end of the year, when I knew I had to pass regents, etc., I took a night class to learn it. I learned a whole year of chemistry in just 12 hours. Yup. The teacher of that class was a great teacher! Got a B on the state regents. Not bad for someone that had learned nothing from 10 months of a clown teacher. Bad teachers can cause tremendous anxiety for students. He was one of several bad teachers I had had. Our whole education system needs to be changed or dismantled. It's a joke. And we're paying for this garbage through taxes. Enough said. You make a really good point too. A bad teacher is dangerous and probably does a lot of damage to a lot of people. Look at some of the crap we are seeing recently with these freaks telling children to cross-dress. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79261622 United States05/28/2022 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately public schools only give you one book on the subject you are to learn. The best way I have taught myself is studying multiple books on the same topic. What I don't comprehend from one book, I seem to understand from another. Quoting: MrCoolone As Confucius says “By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.” Good Point. I have found that a lot of Math books are poorly written..for the reason I stated...Math is conceptual and trying to explain it in words, I found a lot of the authors of math books fall into circular statements. But think of all the problems caused by what you are saying...some person reads a book and then thinks they are an expert, without ever considering learning more from different viewpoints. |
| Moonpie (OP) User ID: 79261622 United States05/28/2022 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, you taught yourself to read by reading a book? Fuckin Awesome. 7 starts for u buttercup. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79966791 I learned to speak too before I went to any school. My parents and grand parents taught me the alphabet. Actually not that hard for me. Sorry it was tough on you. that's usually how it goes. What's the point of this thread again? I was just venting. |
| MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States05/28/2022 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My chemistry teacher was a clown, talked mostly about his son playing tennis, etc. Taught just about nothing during class time. I was failing miserably the whole year. I didn't have a clue. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82371988 At the end of the year, when I knew I had to pass regents, etc., I took a night class to learn it. I learned a whole year of chemistry in just 12 hours. Yup. The teacher of that class was a great teacher! Got a B on the state regents. Not bad for someone that had learned nothing from 10 months of a clown teacher. Bad teachers can cause tremendous anxiety for students. He was one of several bad teachers I had had. Our whole education system needs to be changed or dismantled. It's a joke. And we're paying for this garbage through taxes. Enough said. In high school, I found the chemistry book they issued to us was a joke. It was long and drawn out. Very few were able to learn from this text. I found a book "Chemistry made Simple". Then, I found myself correcting the teacher on numerous times. |
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| BFD
User ID: 77815623 United States05/28/2022 11:38 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As an artist I was mostly self-taught for a long time... until I realized I hit the end of what could be taught without a teacher. Typically, there is no real way to learn to draw and paint masterfully without sitting in a room for a long time with a bunch of people that are better than you are, including teachers. A teacher can take 20,000 hours of study and practice and distill it down into a few words that can speed up understanding and the pedagogical process drastically. Granted, a lot of people teach but can't "do"... but that's not what I mean. Studying under practicing professionals at the top of the game is invaluable... sort of like an apprenticeship. Last Edited by BFD on 05/28/2022 11:42 AM INFJ/Conservative Artist |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 82795170 United States05/28/2022 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As an artist I was mostly self-taught for a long time... until I realized I hit the end of what could be taught without a teacher. Quoting: BFD Typically, there is no real way to learn to draw and paint masterfully without sitting in a room for a long time with a bunch of people that are better than you are, including teachers. A teacher can take 20,000 hours of study and practice and distill it down into a few works that can speed up understanding and the pedagogical process drastically. Granted, a lot of people teach but can't "do"... but that's not what I mean. Studying under practicing professionals at the top of the game is invaluable. Music works the same way... |
| Vamps333 User ID: 80841465  United Kingdom05/28/2022 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess it is just me and my learning style. Quoting: Moonpie 79261622 Every single thing I've learned has been from books. And I guess I can say some videos now in the computer age. But...a teacher in a school? That was a complete waste of years of my life. If they had given me the book and told me what chapters to read and given me the test, I would have had no problems. In Math, I think teachers actually hurt my ability to learn because Math is conceptual and some halfwit using language to explain it is of no use. I say this because I think its time to get rid of the Public School system, which is a 19th century 'progressive' idea. It was meant for non-diverse societies where it was assumed every child was (and should be treated) exactly the same. Why does some like me have to listen to a 2nd rate turd babble for 45 minutes about something I could just read and take a test on. I can only learn from my mistakes and so far I haven't made any. Someone once gave me a Bible and told me to take it seriously. I told them to get fucked, have you any idea of the life I have lead?  |
| FightForGod!
User ID: 80146778 United States05/28/2022 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I learned a lot from my pottery teacher. He would sneak us out of the school through a break in the fence and we would go to the beach for an hour! "Build a sandcastle - that will be your grade". Best teacher ever! Mr. Bullock, I still remember you. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, |
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| MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States05/28/2022 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately public schools only give you one book on the subject you are to learn. The best way I have taught myself is studying multiple books on the same topic. What I don't comprehend from one book, I seem to understand from another. Quoting: MrCoolone As Confucius says “By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.” Good Point. I have found that a lot of Math books are poorly written..for the reason I stated...Math is conceptual and trying to explain it in words, I found a lot of the authors of math books fall into circular statements. But think of all the problems caused by what you are saying...some person reads a book and then thinks they are an expert, without ever considering learning more from different viewpoints. We have had good and bad teachers throughout the years. Just because you are a teacher, it certainly does not make you an expert, they are only there to help motivate and train you to learn and inspect your progression. |
| MrCoolone
User ID: 33106931 United States05/28/2022 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As an artist I was mostly self-taught for a long time... until I realized I hit the end of what could be taught without a teacher. Quoting: BFD Typically, there is no real way to learn to draw and paint masterfully without sitting in a room for a long time with a bunch of people that are better than you are, including teachers. A teacher can take 20,000 hours of study and practice and distill it down into a few words that can speed up understanding and the pedagogical process drastically. Granted, a lot of people teach but can't "do"... but that's not what I mean. Studying under practicing professionals at the top of the game is invaluable... sort of like an apprenticeship. Learning from the competition has a way of motivating us. Constructive criticism among your peers has a way of motivating us. Last Edited by MrCoolone on 05/28/2022 11:58 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78828212 United States05/28/2022 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But, that was a long time ago...we are all teachers... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79974802 United States05/28/2022 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I taught myself as well, even through college All it took was slow teaching or explanations that were flat or half-ass and my mind would stockpile questions and I'd have to block out the noise and read Sometimes a teacher would be sharp and cut a wide path with the necessary enthusiasm and awareness to be less self-important... but not often enough and it made for long days/nights It made me want to be a teacher |
| Moonpie (OP) User ID: 79261622 United States05/28/2022 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As an artist I was mostly self-taught for a long time... until I realized I hit the end of what could be taught without a teacher. Quoting: BFD Typically, there is no real way to learn to draw and paint masterfully without sitting in a room for a long time with a bunch of people that are better than you are, including teachers. A teacher can take 20,000 hours of study and practice and distill it down into a few works that can speed up understanding and the pedagogical process drastically. Granted, a lot of people teach but can't "do"... but that's not what I mean. Studying under practicing professionals at the top of the game is invaluable. Music works the same way... Vincent Van Gogh, Beethoven, Michal Jackson, Taylor Swift would prove otherwise. Talent trumps all. Dali walked out of Art School before he graduated saying 'none of you people are capable of judging my work'. |
| Moonpie (OP) User ID: 79261622 United States05/28/2022 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess it is just me and my learning style. Quoting: Moonpie 79261622 Every single thing I've learned has been from books. And I guess I can say some videos now in the computer age. But...a teacher in a school? That was a complete waste of years of my life. If they had given me the book and told me what chapters to read and given me the test, I would have had no problems. In Math, I think teachers actually hurt my ability to learn because Math is conceptual and some halfwit using language to explain it is of no use. I say this because I think its time to get rid of the Public School system, which is a 19th century 'progressive' idea. It was meant for non-diverse societies where it was assumed every child was (and should be treated) exactly the same. Why does some like me have to listen to a 2nd rate turd babble for 45 minutes about something I could just read and take a test on. I can only learn from my mistakes and so far I haven't made any. Someone once gave me a Bible and told me to take it seriously. I told them to get fucked, have you any idea of the life I have lead? Yeah. If you haven't made any mistakes, then you are doing nothing. |
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| KnollTroll
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| Moonpie (OP) User ID: 79261622 United States05/28/2022 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best teacher I had Told us right off the bat that she couldn't teach us a damn thing. But, what she could do was expose us to a wealth of information and it was up to us to do the learning, or not! Up to you! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78828212 But, that was a long time ago...we are all teachers... Well stated. |
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| Moonpie (OP) User ID: 79261622 United States05/28/2022 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's why schools should be banned. Nothing else needs to be said. Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83196887 I don't think schools should be banned. And I don't think that nobody learns from a teacher. But I do think, not everybody learns the same way. That is why I would like to see an open school environment based upon free markets. I personally could have read and studied online and taking the required tests. Some people need a teacher. Some people are in schools and they don't want to be there and that is to the detriment of the others that are there. The 19th Century style .... all the little white european christians are taught the same is failing in modern diverse society. It's time to decentralize and open up the system. |
| Moonpie (OP) User ID: 79261622 United States05/28/2022 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's why schools should be banned. Nothing else needs to be said. Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83196887 I don't think schools should be banned. And I don't think that nobody learns from a teacher. But I do think, not everybody learns the same way. That is why I would like to see an open school environment based upon free markets. I personally could have read and studied online and taking the required tests. Some people need a teacher. Some people are in schools and they don't want to be there and that is to the detriment of the others that are there. The 19th Century style .... all the little white european christians are taught the same is failing in modern diverse society. It's time to decentralize and open up the system. |
