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Matthew 24:28

Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather. Just as the gathering of vultures shows there is a carcass nearby, so these signs indicate that the end is near.


‘Just The Nature Of The Location’: Denver Botanic Gardens Crew Uncovers Human Remains...

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"Shavuot" – "Pentecost" - "Feast of Weeks" – 2022

The 4th Feast of the Lord

Begins at sundown on the 04th JUNE – until sundown 05th JUNE, 2022

Pentecost - The Feast of Fulfilment … When the day of Pentecost (meaning, Shavuot) came one hundred and twenty disciples – (Acts 1:15) were all together in one place…

Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues (or as the NIV interprets, "languages"), as the Spirit enabled them." (Acts 2:1 - 4 NIV)

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FULL OF DEAD MAN'S BONES!

Jesus of Nazareth.. Hypocrisy of the Scribes & Pharisees



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Matthew 24:28

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28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

Now look up the coat of arms of russia, look up the coat of arms of the US, look up the logo of the 33 degree of the scottish rite of freemasonry. Notice they are all eagles, hence the EAGLES will gather where the carcase is.

When we use new age corrupt bible translations, it leads us astray from the truth. Time to step up to the King James my friend. That vulture nonsense completely destroys the prophecy and hides the truth
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Notice in Matthew 23-28 KJV, they are not talking about carcaseS, its talking about THE carcase, its relating to Christ and false christs, where THE carcase is, the EAGLES will be gathered.

The NIV is saying where there is A carcase the vultures will gather, whereas the KJV is saying where THE CARCASE in regards to Christ or the false deceiving christ is.

Matthew 24:23-28

King James Version

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

Using the NIV, its a disaster
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Matthew 24:28

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28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

Now look up the coat of arms of russia, look up the coat of arms of the US, look up the logo of the 33 degree of the scottish rite of freemasonry. Notice they are all eagles, hence the EAGLES will gather where the carcase is.

When we use new age corrupt bible translations, it leads us astray from the truth. Time to step up to the King James my friend. That vulture nonsense completely destroys the prophecy and hides the truth
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There are many reasons why these passages are so difficult to understand. In the New International Version of Luke, for example, the body referred to is called a dead body, whereas the King James Version does not refer to a dead body. In fact, the Greek word used to refer to the body in Luke’s version of this parabolic passage is “soma”, and this word is usually always used to refer to a living body! However, in either translation, Matthew’s rendition of the passage uses the word “ptoma”, which always means a dead body or carcass of non-specific origin.


In the Greek texts used for the King James and New International Bible Versions, the word translated as eagles is “ahetos”, which according to Strong's Concordance usually refers to an eagle, though it can refer to other large birds of prey. So far as I can tell, therefore, the translators of the New International Version used the word “vulture” in both Matthew and Luke’s version of the passage based on Matthew’s use of the word “carcass” alone.


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Matthew 24:28

King James Version

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

Now look up the coat of arms of russia, look up the coat of arms of the US, look up the logo of the 33 degree of the scottish rite of freemasonry. Notice they are all eagles, hence the EAGLES will gather where the carcase is.

When we use new age corrupt bible translations, it leads us astray from the truth. Time to step up to the King James my friend. That vulture nonsense completely destroys the prophecy and hides the truth
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There are many reasons why these passages are so difficult to understand. In the New International Version of Luke, for example, the body referred to is called a dead body, whereas the King James Version does not refer to a dead body. In fact, the Greek word used to refer to the body in Luke’s version of this parabolic passage is “soma”, and this word is usually always used to refer to a living body! However, in either translation, Matthew’s rendition of the passage uses the word “ptoma”, which always means a dead body or carcass of non-specific origin.


In the Greek texts used for the King James and New International Bible Versions, the word translated as eagles is “ahetos”, which according to Strong's Concordance usually refers to an eagle, though it can refer to other large birds of prey. So far as I can tell, therefore, the translators of the New International Version used the word “vulture” in both Matthew and Luke’s version of the passage based on Matthew’s use of the word “carcass” alone.


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I appreciate your effort seeking the Word my friend. The NIV was intentionally altered to lead the sheep to accept the antichrist. It comes from the westcott and hort corrupted greek, that ties back to pagan greek philosophers, and pagan rome. Consider a few verse comparisons:

Psalm 12:6-8

King James Version

6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

God will preserve his words

Psalm 12:6-8

New International Version

6 And the words of the Lord are flawless,
    like silver purified in a crucible,
    like gold refined seven times.

7 You, Lord, will keep the needy safe
    and will protect us forever from the wicked,
8 who freely strut about
    when what is vile is honored by the human race.

Not the same thing here

Notice in the verse comparison below, the NIV has ADDED AN ADDITIONAL MARK:

Revelation 14:1

King James Version

14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

Revelation 14:1

New International Version

The Lamb and the 144,000

14 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 

Deceive the elect to take the mark of the beast.

Notice in comparison below, in the kjv thr mark is IN the hand, whereas NIV it is ON the hand. These are big differences that will deceive many:

Revelation 13:16-17

King James Version

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Revelation 13:16-17

New International Version

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 
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I highly recommend Gail Riplingers book "New Age bible versions"
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I highly recommend Gail Riplingers book "New Age bible versions"
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Why?
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You need to understand that the KJV issue does not matter, nor is there any problem whatsoever because there are different "versions".

You need to understand this.

We have the original Greek and He***w versions that were the words spoken and written.

Everything from that and then is translation between languages. There is no great mystery here. It is all well-known, and we have versions of every translation along the way.

You can easily compare all versions and translations today at your fingertips. There are no secrets or mysteries here and there need not be any confusion or uncertainty.

In fact, it is often best to occasionally reference the slightly different translations side-by-side to learn more about the verse or passage.

I started with the Living Bible when I was a kid. While not bad, it is the only one I would not recommend. Then I spent about 5 years in the New International Version. Then it was into the King James Version for 5 years of serious study. Soon thereafter, I got and went through the New American Standard, the New King James and the English Standard Version. My anchor Bible is my well-worn and highlighted KJV. My favorite is the NKJV. My most recent purchase is the Holman NKJV Compact UltraThin in a beautiful soft brown leather. Sweet little Bible.

What matters is a heart and mind being in the Word of God, not disputing over minor differences in wordings.
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John 3:16,17


King James Version

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.



New King James Version

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.



New American Standard Bible

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.



New International Version

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.



English Standard Version

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.


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Notice the trick the NIV does with the verses below:

Revelation 22:16

“I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.”

Isaiah 14:12

“How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”

Now look what the NIV does, it removes the name Lucifer, and changes it to the morning star, Jesus said he was the morning star, but NIV identifies Lucifer with the morning star:

Isaiah 14:12

New International Version

12 How you have fallen from heaven,
    morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
    you who once laid low the nations!
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Were all things created through Jesus Christ, the KJV says yes, the NIV omits it:

Ephesians 3:9

King James Version

9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Ephesians 3:9

New International Version

9 and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things. OMIT THROUGH JESUS CHRIST

Is Jesus the Alpha and Omega, the KJV says Yes, the NIV omits:

Revelation 1:11

King James Version

11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Revelation 1:11

New International Version

OMIT
11 which said: “Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and​ Laodicea.”

Important verse below, lets compare:

1 John 5:7

King James Version

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

1 John 5:7

New International Version

7 For there are three that testify:
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You need to understand that the KJV issue does not matter, nor is there any problem whatsoever because there are different "versions".

You need to understand this.

We have the original Greek and He***w versions that were the words spoken and written.

Everything from that and then is translation between languages. There is no great mystery here. It is all well-known, and we have versions of every translation along the way.

You can easily compare all versions and translations today at your fingertips. There are no secrets or mysteries here and there need not be any confusion or uncertainty.

In fact, it is often best to occasionally reference the slightly different translations side-by-side to learn more about the verse or passage.

I started with the Living Bible when I was a kid. While not bad, it is the only one I would not recommend. Then I spent about 5 years in the New International Version. Then it was into the King James Version for 5 years of serious study. Soon thereafter, I got and went through the New American Standard, the New King James and the English Standard Version. My anchor Bible is my well-worn and highlighted KJV. My favorite is the NKJV. My most recent purchase is the Holman NKJV Compact UltraThin in a beautiful soft brown leather. Sweet little Bible.

What matters is a heart and mind being in the Word of God, not disputing over minor differences in wordings.
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Isaiah 44:18

“They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand.”
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Colossians 1:14

King James Version

14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Colossians 1:14

New International Version

14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

1John 4:3

King James Version

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

1 John 4:3

New International Version

3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

Mark 10:24

King James Version

24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!

Mark 10:24

New International Version

24 The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, “Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God!

Those are SEVERE problems, not minor word differences
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KJV is a good Bible but not perfect.

Pretty much all Bibles contain the what's necessary to Repnt, Believe and be Saved.

She brings up 'Neo-Platoism' but seems to not realise that the 'triue' god teachings came from him.

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I highly recommend Gail Riplingers book "New Age bible versions"
 Quoting: Servant of Yahshua

KJV is a good Bible but not perfect.

Pretty much all Bibles contain the what's necessary to Repnt, Believe and be Saved.

She brings up 'Neo-Platoism' but seems to not realise that the 'triue' god teachings came from him.

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Neo-platoism is a pagan religion in itself. Plato and the other heathen like Origen and such were the ones who created the critical text of the bible that is reflected in the NIV, NASB, etc. The majority text comes from the 5000 plus manuscripts that were spread by the apostles and other Christians throughout the world, these individual texts where collected and compared from all over the world in different languages, and they all matched and people realized God YHVH preserved his Word like he said he would. All the these documents were compared and worked into what became the majority text represented in the now KJV....meanwhile the pagan spiritualists in Alexandria Egypt like Plato and Origen were making a critical text that matched their heathen philosophy. You realize Pythagoras who influenced much greek pagan philosophy just mastered the kaballa using numbers, that stuff is the foundation of thr occult. Plato=pagan trash.
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KJV is a good Bible but not perfect.

Pretty much all Bibles contain the what's necessary to Repnt, Believe and be Saved.

She brings up 'Neo-Platoism' but seems to not realise that the 'triue' god teachings came from him.

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Neo-platoism is a pagan religion in itself. Plato and the other heathen like Origen and such were the ones who created the critical text of the bible that is reflected in the NIV, NASB, etc. The majority text comes from the 5000 plus manuscripts that were spread by the apostles and other Christians throughout the world, these individual texts where collected and compared from all over the world in different languages, and they all matched and people realized God YHVH preserved his Word like he said he would. All the these documents were compared and worked into what became the majority text represented in the now KJV....meanwhile the pagan spiritualists in Alexandria Egypt like Plato and Origen were making a critical text that matched their heathen philosophy. You realize Pythagoras who influenced much greek pagan philosophy just mastered the kaballa using numbers, that stuff is the foundation of thr occult. Plato=pagan trash.
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'Majority texts' doesn't mean the verses are 100% accurate.

Yet Plato's teachings wwere the basis for the 'trinity' doctrine.

The "Trinity" didn't exist - nor was even taught by Jesus OR the Apostles.

The first of the early church fathers to be recorded using the word "Trinity" was Theophilus of Antioch writing in the late 2nd century.

He defines the Trinity as God, His Word (Logos) and His Wisdom (Sophia) in the context of a discussion of the first three days of creation, following the early Christian practice of identifying the Holy Spirit as the Wisdom of God.

The first defense of the doctrine of the Trinity was in the early 3rd century by the early church father Tertullian. He explicitly defined the Trinity as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and defended his theology against "Praxeas",[47] though he noted that the majority of the believers in his day found issue with his doctrine.


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Here's something else for your head to wrap around.

The "filioque" was added to the Nicene Creed at the Council of Toledo in 589. It was basically the FULL beginning of the "God the Son" trinity.

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Guess what Christian "teaching" is MOST despised by Muslims?

The trinity.

Ironic too that Islam was started just a few decades AFTER the Council of Toledo made the filioque change.

What are the odds that Father God actually SENT Gabriel to Muhammed to keep the "Jesus is God" teaching in check?

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KJV is a good Bible but not perfect.

Pretty much all Bibles contain the what's necessary to Repnt, Believe and be Saved.

She brings up 'Neo-Platoism' but seems to not realise that the 'triue' god teachings came from him.

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Neo-platoism is a pagan religion in itself. Plato and the other heathen like Origen and such were the ones who created the critical text of the bible that is reflected in the NIV, NASB, etc. The majority text comes from the 5000 plus manuscripts that were spread by the apostles and other Christians throughout the world, these individual texts where collected and compared from all over the world in different languages, and they all matched and people realized God YHVH preserved his Word like he said he would. All the these documents were compared and worked into what became the majority text represented in the now KJV....meanwhile the pagan spiritualists in Alexandria Egypt like Plato and Origen were making a critical text that matched their heathen philosophy. You realize Pythagoras who influenced much greek pagan philosophy just mastered the kaballa using numbers, that stuff is the foundation of thr occult. Plato=pagan trash.
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'Majority texts' doesn't mean the verses are 100% accurate.

Yet Plato's teachings wwere the basis for the 'trinity' doctrine.

The "Trinity" didn't exist - nor was even taught by Jesus OR the Apostles.

The first of the early church fathers to be recorded using the word "Trinity" was Theophilus of Antioch writing in the late 2nd century.

He defines the Trinity as God, His Word (Logos) and His Wisdom (Sophia) in the context of a discussion of the first three days of creation, following the early Christian practice of identifying the Holy Spirit as the Wisdom of God.

The first defense of the doctrine of the Trinity was in the early 3rd century by the early church father Tertullian. He explicitly defined the Trinity as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and defended his theology against "Praxeas",[47] though he noted that the majority of the believers in his day found issue with his doctrine.


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Here's something else for your head to wrap around.

The "filioque" was added to the Nicene Creed at the Council of Toledo in 589. It was basically the FULL beginning of the "God the Son" trinity.

[link to www.episcopalchurch.org (secure)]

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Guess what Christian "teaching" is MOST despised by Muslims?

The trinity.

Ironic too that Islam was started just a few decades AFTER the Council of Toledo made the filioque change.

What are the odds that Father God actually SENT Gabriel to Muhammed to keep the "Jesus is God" teaching in check?
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


I certainly agree with much of what you said on the trinity. I never get into such when sharing the gospel. I believe in the old testament the worship of YHVH God was the way, then when Jesus (Yahshua Hbrw) came in the flesh he was the path. He sends his Spirit upon us, and we become born again in his faith. Jesus sends the Holy Ghost upon us, just like God YHVH put his spirit upon Jeremiah or Isaiah or any of his people.

The catholic church is huge into the trinity, but they have lots of the babylonian pagan trinity of Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz mixed in with their worship. The babylon mystery religion began with Nimrod in Babel in Babylon, and continued throughout the ancient world, the pagan antichrist trinity. When rome unified their empire under one "christian" religion, they mixed the babylon mystery religion with christian terms. Alot of the reason behind the critical text of plato and such was it was meant for the universal religion of rome, its a more "one world one religion" type version represented in the new bible versions, they are reviving the old pagan doctrine.

I am not saying everything about the KJV is flawless, Im saying its an extremely strong translation, whereas thr NIV, NASB, NWT, etc come from evil occult satanists





GLP