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Did you know Shut Down in Windows 10 don't actually shut down your computer ?

 
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Did you knew derp
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Language don't actually serve no purpose.
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I new that
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Langage be emport-int, yo
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Re: Did you know Shut Down in Windows 10 don't actually shut down your computer ?
The Kernel is still active in the background...
 Quoting: Jab McBoosted

Like Apple OSX, Linux and many computer technology devices they have various levels of power saving sleep mode as well as OFF, so a device can monitor certain functions like waking up on network traffic, wake up to key strokes, wake up on lid opening, or quick boot memory dump to disk.

For Windows 10/11 use the free program "Shutup10++" by "0 and 0 Software" (they write O/S utilities). It's a downloadable single executable file OOSU10. exe that puts all the Windows 10 / 11 setting in one place allowing simple control, recommended settings of various levels of lock-down with proper explanations what different settings actually achieve.

For those who've been around computers for a while will have heard of "Spin-right" for the old RLL HDD's this is the company (guy) who wrote that famous old defrag program, before the terms Defrag and Scandisk was coined.
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What it does is copy the RAM to the HDD. Then when you turn back on, it copies it back in to RAM and you are up and running again.

That's why if you have problems it's far better to restart to see if it's fixed than to turn off and turn on again

it's basically the hibernation file

If you disable hibernation then that won't be available in power setting.

You computer isn't running...lol...simply the RAM has been copied to a type of swap file, if you will, on the HD\SSD
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Latent weak wifi could still keep idled rather than truly off.

Fully disconnected and faraday blanket only way to be sure.
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It still has a battery to keep time and who knows what else.
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You have to take that lil flat battery off the circuit board to proper shut down
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Do you know if you don't pull the power cord, you haven't been shitting down the computer since Windows 95




The Kernel is still active in the background, it allows for a faster restart. If you want to really shut down your computer you need to disable that function. Here's how to do it.

In the search windows type : Control Panel

Select Hardware and Sound

In the power options click : change what the power buttons do.

At the top of the window click : change settings that are currently unavailable.

This would allow to uncheck the boxes that are greyed out at the bottom of the window.

Uncheck : Turn on fast startup. If the option is not there for you, that means your computer doesn't have that feature and is already turning off completely by default.

Done.

Now when you shutdown your computer, it will actually do it completely.
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The Kernel is still active in the background, it allows for a faster restart. If you want to really shut down your computer you need to disable that function. Here's how to do it.

In the search windows type : Control Panel

Select Hardware and Sound

In the power options click : change what the power buttons do.

At the top of the window click : change settings that are currently unavailable.

This would allow to uncheck the boxes that are greyed out at the bottom of the window.

Uncheck : Turn on fast startup. If the option is not there for you, that means your computer doesn't have that feature and is already turning off completely by default.

Done.

Now when you shutdown your computer, it will actually do it completely.
 Quoting: Jab McBoosted


Also;
shutdown -s -t 0
in command line
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My desktop never gets turned off. It's on 24/7, has always been that way. But if and when I do have to shut it down, I power it off and then just pull the plug. No other foolproof way to do it.

Same with any smart TV by the way. Somewhere in the fine print of the smart TVs it even says that.
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K. Why not just unplug it?
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Yep. Sometimes the most basic solution is the best one. Unplug that shit.
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K. Why not just unplug it?
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THIS. I unplug to turn off the pc after shutting it down
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Look at these Linux hippies.
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Unplug it.
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Always every time
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Try dropping it into deep ocean water.

A 40 ton press.

Vat of acid.

Steamroller.

Napalm.

Or just grind it up and fire it out of a cannon.

It is the only way to be sure.
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Re: Did you know Shut Down in Windows 10 don't actually shut down your computer ?
Oh gawd, why don't you people just take the internet lead out of your computer? If you're on wi fi then that's your problem.
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Who the hell shuts down computers?
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This is partlt correct. I'm currently managing over 75,000 devices globally and when you power off, it's off.

All fast startup does is save to a hibernation file so upon boot up the session at power down can be loaded immediately into memory, creating a faster experience. This is a simplified explanation but a more detailed one can be found quickly. The "kernel" OP refers to is just a program that controls everything including communication between software and hardware. Fast startup saves the last session to ease the burden on the kernel primarily for io on hardware and drivers.

No clue why OP posted this without explaining what this feature is and does.

There are some beneficial reasons for disabling fast startup though most here wouldn't need to.

Stupid post shouldn't be pinned.
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The Kernel is still active in the background, it allows for a faster restart. If you want to really shut down your computer you need to disable that function. Here's how to do it.

In the search windows type : Control Panel

Select Hardware and Sound

In the power options click : change what the power buttons do.

At the top of the window click : change settings that are currently unavailable.

This would allow to uncheck the boxes that are greyed out at the bottom of the window.

Uncheck : Turn on fast startup. If the option is not there for you, that means your computer doesn't have that feature and is already turning off completely by default.

Done.

Now when you shutdown your computer, it will actually do it completely.
 Quoting: Jab McBoosted

5* for you, OP.
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Re: Did you know Shut Down in Windows 10 don't actually shut down your computer ?
This thread is misleading and lies.

Fast startup doesn't leave your computer on.
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Re: Did you know Shut Down in Windows 10 don't actually shut down your computer ?
This thread is misleading and lies.

Fast startup doesn't leave your computer on.
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Latent weak wifi could still keep idled rather than truly off.

Fully disconnected and faraday blanket only way to be sure.
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It still has a battery to keep time and who knows what else.
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You guys never seem to have heard of the CIA chip.
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Re: Did you know Shut Down in Windows 10 don't actually shut down your computer ?
This is partlt correct. I'm currently managing over 75,000 devices globally and when you power off, it's off.

All fast startup does is save to a hibernation file so upon boot up the session at power down can be loaded immediately into memory, creating a faster experience.
 Quoting: th1nk

But that would be the same as the sleep function... wouldn't it?

That's what the sleep function is for... to go on with your previous session, and relatively fast.
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USE LINUX
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Latent weak wifi could still keep idled rather than truly off.

Fully disconnected and faraday blanket only way to be sure.
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It still has a battery to keep time and who knows what else.
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You guys never seem to have heard of the CIA chip.
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Obviously they have no idea what a trusted execution or management engine is.
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This is partlt correct. I'm currently managing over 75,000 devices globally and when you power off, it's off.

All fast startup does is save to a hibernation file so upon boot up the session at power down can be loaded immediately into memory, creating a faster experience.
 Quoting: th1nk

But that would be the same as the sleep function... wouldn't it?

That's what the sleep function is for... to go on with your previous session, and relatively fast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79568996


NO

if you unplug the power during sleep. then you have to boot from cold again, it will not resume from sleep.
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You can fix this permanently by installing Linux. And even then only if ACPI is functioning properly.
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You can fix this permanently by chucking the whole thing out a ten story window then having a paving roller drive over it.
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I updated to Windows 11 about 6 months ago. It's slightly faster than Windows 10, but I don't like that they removed the thumbnail previews on the folders.
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Please can you help me? I also have windows 11 on my new HP laptop. I want to disable the email account login. When I set it up I was made to open an outlook account and I must type my password every time I start up the computer.

I tried to disable administrator by CMD method which looked like it worked, but when I opened the computer up from shut down my damn login outlook email came on again and I had to type my email password. Every time I’m online it’s logged into my outlook account. Please does anyone know how to remove the email account from administrator? I just want to turn on my laptop without a password or being linked to an email address. Thank you.
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You need to cut it off from the power source to actually shut t down. That means shut off the power bar (strip) or unplug the computer. No lights on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80287201

There is still the battery in there. They say it is for not forgetting time etc.

A cell phone's battery also can't be removed that easily.

Wonder why...
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You need to cut it off from the power source to actually shut t down. That means shut off the power bar (strip) or unplug the computer. No lights on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80287201

There is still the battery in there. They say it is for not forgetting time etc.

A cell phone's battery also can't be removed that easily.

Wonder why...
 Quoting: Theodesus


correct there is a battery in there so it can carry on counting the time when the device is powered off. even some smart phones have this battery.





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