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China Plane Crash Black Box Points to Intentional Nosedive

 
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"Flight data suggests someone in cockpit pushed Boeing 737-800 into near-vertical descent, according to a preliminary U.S. assessment"
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Remote Controlled into the ground

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"The officials who spoke to ABC News point to the plane's flaps not being engaged and landing gear not put down. The near-vertical descent of the plane, they believe, would've required intentional force."
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"The plane slammed into the ground with such force that it created a 66-foot deep hole in the ground, according to Chinese officials.

Investigators also looked into one of the pilots' personal lives and background and believe he may have been struggling through certain issues right before the crash, ABC News has learned."

Not believing the Mental Issues excuse here.
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So was it to silence Fang Fang?
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could easily been control failure too
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So was it to silence Fang Fang?
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because they can't distinguish remote control?
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Data from a black box recovered from the wreckage of a China Eastern Boeing 737-800 jet that crashed in March, killing all 132 onboard, indicate someone in the cockpit intentionally caused the plane to crash, the Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday.

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Black box on doomed China Eastern flight indicates crash was intentional: report

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getting people to betray there own is an old intel skill..witness the fellow that moved bat soup from a rural province in china into italy that they said was the startpoint for covid 19....and we thank you for your support..
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China Eastern added it was unlikely someone broke into the cockpit, noting Chinese authorities have said no one from the plane sent an emergency code before it crashed.

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“The plane did what it was told to do by someone in the cockpit,” a person familiar with U.S.’ officials initial assessment told the Journal.
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The Civil Aviation Administration of China released a preliminary report on the China Eastern crash last month that offered few new details, but laid out a timeline of the incident that killed all 123 passengers and nine crew members, and noted air-traffic controllers didn’t notice anything abnormal before the plane dropped.
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Remote hijacked and intentionally nose dived to warn the chicoms not to fully support Putin.

All new Boeing planes since the 1990s have the “ uninterrupted autopilot “ working in the background with backdoors for the company Cee Eye Ay and Yisrailis to be able to electronically commandeer them to fly in whatever fashion they want.

The nose dive to implicate suicide for public consumption just like the suicide theory for MH 370 ...

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So was it to silence Fang Fang?
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'WAS' SHE ACTUALLY ON THAT FLIGHT?
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Remote hijacked and intentionally nose dived to warn the chicoms not to fully support Putin.

All new Boeing planes since the 1990s have the “ uninterrupted autopilot “ working in the background with backdoors for the company Cee Eye Ay and Yisrailis to be able to electronically commandeer them to fly in whatever fashion they want.

The nose dive to implicate suicide for public consumption just like the suicide theory for MH 370 ...

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bsflagthere are zero remote controllable passenger aircraft
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Remote hijacked and intentionally nose dived to warn the chicoms not to fully support Putin.

All new Boeing planes since the 1990s have the “ uninterrupted autopilot “ working in the background with backdoors for the company Cee Eye Ay and Yisrailis to be able to electronically commandeer them to fly in whatever fashion they want.

The nose dive to implicate suicide for public consumption just like the suicide theory for MH 370 ...

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bsflagthere are zero remote controllable passenger aircraft
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Remote hijacked and intentionally nose dived to warn the chicoms not to fully support Putin.

All new Boeing planes since the 1990s have the “ uninterrupted autopilot “ working in the background with backdoors for the company Cee Eye Ay and Yisrailis to be able to electronically commandeer them to fly in whatever fashion they want.

The nose dive to implicate suicide for public consumption just like the suicide theory for MH 370 ...

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bsflagthere are zero remote controllable passenger aircraft
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what is your expertise?
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"The plane slammed into the ground with such force that it created a 66-foot deep hole in the ground, according to Chinese officials.

Investigators also looked into one of the pilots' personal lives and background and believe he may have been struggling through certain issues right before the crash, ABC News has learned."

Not believing the Mental Issues excuse here.
 Quoting: Agent 99


Why not its been done before. Ever hear of the German wings crash where the pilot locked out the captain from the cockpit and proceeded to fly into the alps committing suicide and homicide all at the same time.
Or how about Eygpt air from KJFK to Cairo over the Atlantic ocean. Nosedive with the pilot shouting Alu akbar.
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"The plane slammed into the ground with such force that it created a 66-foot deep hole in the ground, according to Chinese officials.

Investigators also looked into one of the pilots' personal lives and background and believe he may have been struggling through certain issues right before the crash, ABC News has learned."

Not believing the Mental Issues excuse here.
 Quoting: Agent 99


Why not its been done before. Ever hear of the German wings crash where the pilot locked out the captain from the cockpit and proceeded to fly into the alps committing suicide and homicide all at the same time.
Or how about Eygpt air from KJFK to Cairo over the Atlantic ocean. Nosedive with the pilot shouting Alu akbar.
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Terrorism isn't a mental disorder.

Terrorism is a person following an ideology with full faculties and perfectly sane with a goal in mind.
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"Flight data suggests someone in cockpit pushed Boeing 737-800 into near-vertical descent, according to a preliminary U.S. assessment"
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Except that it’s an impossible task for a pilot to do so. Performing such a maneuver after having assumed remote control of the aircraft, however, is child’s play.

Remember the 3G turn that the second plane that hit the WTC towers performed? Absolutely impossible to do from the cockpit using the flight controls, as the fly-by-wire system hard-limits such excursions to 1.5G maximum. Ergo, at least one of the craft in the WTC incident were flown remotely, and both logic and common sense would dictate that they all were.
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"The plane slammed into the ground with such force that it created a 66-foot deep hole in the ground, according to Chinese officials.

Investigators also looked into one of the pilots' personal lives and background and believe he may have been struggling through certain issues right before the crash, ABC News has learned."

Not believing the Mental Issues excuse here.
 Quoting: Agent 99


Why not its been done before. Ever hear of the German wings crash where the pilot locked out the captain from the cockpit and proceeded to fly into the alps committing suicide and homicide all at the same time.
Or how about Eygpt air from KJFK to Cairo over the Atlantic ocean. Nosedive with the pilot shouting Alu akbar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73112757


Neither of those dives were anywhere near being almost perfectly vertical incidence for 20 thousand-odd feet, as this Chinese crash was. See my comment above.

Oh, and just something to think about: how are you sure that the pilots in both cases you mentioned were responsible? Was it because you read it online, or even heard audio purporting to be of the pilots committing the act? This is ostensibly a conspiracy forum; think outside the box.
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"Flight data suggests someone in cockpit pushed Boeing 737-800 into near-vertical descent, according to a preliminary U.S. assessment"
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Except that it’s an impossible task for a pilot to do so. Performing such a maneuver after having assumed remote control of the aircraft, however, is child’s play.

Remember the 3G turn that the second plane that hit the WTC towers performed? Absolutely impossible to do from the cockpit using the flight controls, as the fly-by-wire system hard-limits such excursions to 1.5G maximum. Ergo, at least one of the craft in the WTC incident were flown remotely, and both logic and common sense would dictate that they all were.
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None of the 911 aircraft were fly by wire, you dipshit. Back then only scarebus had fbw.
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"Flight data suggests someone in cockpit pushed Boeing 737-800 into near-vertical descent, according to a preliminary U.S. assessment"
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Except that it’s an impossible task for a pilot to do so. Performing such a maneuver after having assumed remote control of the aircraft, however, is child’s play.

Remember the 3G turn that the second plane that hit the WTC towers performed? Absolutely impossible to do from the cockpit using the flight controls, as the fly-by-wire system hard-limits such excursions to 1.5G maximum. Ergo, at least one of the craft in the WTC incident were flown remotely, and both logic and common sense would dictate that they all were.
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None of the 911 aircraft were fly by wire, you dipshit. Back then only scarebus had fbw.
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Apologies, as my mind was still thinking of the Chinese crash, which aircraft was FBW. Nevertheless, the controls on the WTC planes were limited to 1.5G; read up on the work done by the airline pilots group who researched the matter.

Btw, your obscene epithet was uncalled for, and reported as abusive. hf
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"Flight data suggests someone in cockpit pushed Boeing 737-800 into near-vertical descent, according to a preliminary U.S. assessment"
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Except that it’s an impossible task for a pilot to do so. Performing such a maneuver after having assumed remote control of the aircraft, however, is child’s play.

Remember the 3G turn that the second plane that hit the WTC towers performed? Absolutely impossible to do from the cockpit using the flight controls, as the fly-by-wire system hard-limits such excursions to 1.5G maximum. Ergo, at least one of the craft in the WTC incident were flown remotely, and both logic and common sense would dictate that they all were.
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None of the 911 aircraft were fly by wire, you dipshit. Back then only scarebus had fbw.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83285704


Apologies, as my mind was still thinking of the Chinese crash, which aircraft was FBW. Nevertheless, the controls on the WTC planes were limited to 1.5G; read up on the work done by the airline pilots group who researched the matter.

...
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Airplanes have three redundant hydraulic systems?

1.5G would mean that control had to be onboard, thus hijacking from the passenger seat and not cockpit?

Where is the vulnerability? Jihadi pilots? Will to attack commercial aircraft?

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VAIDS
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VAIDS
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more likely
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VAIDS
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more likely
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Nah. Intentional means controlled. But by who?

What was the motive?
Egypt 990 was "suicide by pilot" but NEVER blamed Islamic ideology, which is the root of the problem.

Asymmetrical warfare includes things that can't be screened and get past the checkpoints. Success depends on the confusion afterward and casting blame on something obscure.





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