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PROOF THAT THE JESUS FICTION WAS MADE TO CONTROL PEOPLE

 
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You need mental health treatment
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yeah right, the 'Roman' Conspiracy
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Then how did this fiction fulfill the prophecy of the ancients?

Arguably the single greatest event that has impacted this world to this time?
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The idea that Jesus was a
myth is ridiculous!

“In matters of religion it is very easy to deceive a man, and very hard to undeceive him.”
-Pierre Bayle

Didn’t There Have to Have Been a Jesus?
Most people have never heard of the ancient Greek mythographer Euhemerus, who first theorized that the gods of mythology were deified human beings, and their myths based on legends sprung from accounts of real people and events. So many might be surprised to find that they are Euhemerists on the subject of Jesus. That is to say, though they may not believe Jesus was the divine Christ that Christianity venerates as the Son of God and savior of the world, and may regard accounts of the miracles and wonders attending him as mere legendary accretion, nevertheless they certainly believe there had to have been a central figure that began Christianity.
Perhaps he was just a wandering teacher or an exorcist, an apocalyptic prophet or a zealot who opposed the Romans. Perhaps he was all these things, or even a composite of several such early first-century figures; but at any rate, surely there had to be somebody at the ...
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... original core of Christianity, arguably the most famous individual in human history. All this seems to be a perfectly reasonable, completely natural assumption to make – so why would anyone be so foolish as to propose that Jesus never existed?
Doesn’t it just make more sense to assume that there was a historical Jesus, even if we are unable to recover the real facts about his life and death? As it turns out, no. The opposite is true: the closer we look at the evidence for Jesus, the less solid evidence we find; and the more we find suspicious silences and curious resemblances to the pagan and Je*ish religious ideas and philosophies that preceded Christianity. And once you begins to parse out the origins of this tradition or that teaching from their various sources, the sweater begins unraveling quickly until it becomes very difficult to buy that there ever was – or even could have been – any historical figure at the center.
Ten Beautiful Lies About Jesus
Christianity, like all religious movements, was born from mythmaking; and nowhere is this clearer than when we examine the context from which Jesus sprang. The supposed historical underpinning of Jesus, which apologists insist differentiates their Christ from the myriad other savior gods and divine sons of the ancient pagan world, simply does not hold up to investigation.
On the contrary, the closer we examine the official story, or rather stories, of Christianity (or Christianities!), the quicker it becomes apparent that the figure of the historical Jesus has traveled with a bodyguard of widely accepted, seldom examined untruths for over two millennia.
The purpose of this all-too-brief examination is to shed light on ten of these beloved Christian myths, ten ...
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... That Demands a Verdict (p. 120):
“No serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non-historicity of Jesus.”
(Otto Betz, What Do We Know About Jesus?)
“Some writers may toy with the fancy of a ‘Christ-myth,’ but they do not do so on the ground of historical evidence. The historicity of Christ is as axiomatic for an unbiased historian as the historicity of Julius Caesar. It is not historians who propagate the ‘Christ-myth’ theories.”
(F.F. Bruce, The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?)
It’s true enough that the majority of Biblical historians do not question the historicity of Jesus – but then again, the majority of Biblical historians have always been Christian preachers, so what else could we expect them to say? For all their bluster, the truth is that for as long as there have been Christian writings, there have been critics who have disputed Christian claims and called events from the Gospel stories into question. And since at least the 18th century a growing number of historians have raised serious problems that cast Jesus’ historicity into outright doubt, as we’ll see.
Jesus vs. Julius Caesar
For instance, historian Richard Carrier has pointed out the problems with Christian apologist Douglas Geivett’s claim that the evidence for Jesus’ resurrection meets “the highest standards of historical inquiry,” and is as certain as Julius Caesar's crossing of the Rubicon ...
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... in 49 B.C.E. Carrier notes, “Well, it is common in Christian apologetics, throughout history, to make absurdly exaggerated claims, and this is no exception.” Then he compares the evidence for both events:
First of all, we have Caesar’s own account. In contrast, we have nothing written by Jesus, and we do not know who really wrote any of the Gospels. Second, many of Caesar's enemies reported the crossing of the Rubicon. But we have no hostile or even neutral records of the resurrection until over a hundred years after the supposed event, fifty years after Christian beliefs had become widely known. Third, there are numerous inscriptions, coins, mentions of battles, conscriptions and judgments, which form an almost continuous chain of evidence for Caesar's entire march. But there is no
physical evidence of any kind in the case of Jesus.
Fourth, almost every historian of the period reports the Rubicon crossing, including the most prominent of the Roman age: Suetonius, Appian, Cassius Dio and Plutarch. Moreover, these scholars have shown proven reliability, since a great many of their reports on other matters have been confirmed with material evidence and in other sources. In addition, they all quote and name many different sources, showing a wide reading of the witnesses and documents, and they consistently show a desire to critically examine claims for which there is any dispute. If that wasn't enough, all of them cite or quote sources written by witnesses, hostile and friendly, of the Rubicon crossing and its repercussions.
But not a single historian mentions the resurrection until the 3rd and 4th centuries, and then only Christian historians. Of the anonymous Gospel authors, only “Luke” even claims to be writing history, but neither Luke nor any of the others ever cite any other sources or show signs of a skilled or critical examination of ...
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... beautiful lies about Jesus:
1. The idea that Jesus was a myth is ridiculous!
2. Jesus was wildly famous – but there was no reason
for contemporary historians to notice him...
3. Ancient historian Josephus wrote about Jesus
4. Eyewitnesses wrote the Gospels
5. The Gospels give a consistent picture of Jesus
6. History confirms the Gospels
7. Archeology confirms the Gospels
8. Paul and the Epistles corroborate the Gospels
9. Christianity began with Jesus and his apostles
10. Christianity was a totally new and different miraculous overnight success that changed the world!
I also want to give a thumbnail sketch of how the evidence gathered from historians all across the theological spectrum not only debunks these long-cherished myths, but points to a Jesus Christ created solely through the alchemy of hope and imagination; a messiah transformed from a purely literary, theological construct into the familiar figure (or more truthfully, figures) of Jesus – in short, a mythic Christ. And finally, I want to briefly discuss how very different things would be if there had been a historical Jesus.
Who Says There’s No Jesus?
We’ve already begun. Our first Christian myth is the knee-jerk dismissal of the idea that Jesus may have only been a figure of legend. Unsurprisingly, apologists take umbrage at the very notion and declare that historians have always overwhelmingly agreed that Jesus was real. Campus Crusade for Christ Minister Josh McDowell gives prime examples of these sorts of dismissive pronouncements in his book The New Evidence ...
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Bullshit. He was a man who walked on the Earth and had a message. It didn't come from Antarctica. His audience choose to kill him and ignore the message or distort it for their love of money and here we all are in a much worse hell then it could've been listening to ego manics preach about "Trust The Science". The human race is truly cursed with the ego and their love of controlling others through their love of money.
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So if that's the case, why not continue the control. Why ban Bible reading in schools?
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He came to set you free from the roman (all)religions.

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So if that's the case, why not continue the control. Why ban Bible reading in public schools?
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Because a higher God helped found this republic, the United States, and helped make sure there is separation of church and state and that never will any religion be the law of the land in this country and He continues to inspire citizens and lawmakers to work to keep it that way.
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Then how did this fiction fulfill the prophecy of the ancients?

Arguably the single greatest event that has impacted this world to this time?
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Most people on this planet would vehemently disagree. What happened right after Jesus? Oh yeah, the Dark Ages. THAT event was bigger.
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You can't sway my faith in the least bit.
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Then how did this fiction fulfill the prophecy of the ancients?

Arguably the single greatest event that has impacted this world to this time?
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Most people on this planet would vehemently disagree. What happened right after Jesus? Oh yeah, the Dark Ages. THAT event was bigger.
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Good point!
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Don't carry water for the Devil, OP.
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The idea that Jesus was a
myth is ridiculous!

“In matters of religion it is very easy to deceive a man, and very hard to undeceive him.”
-Pierre Bayle

Didn’t There Have to Have Been a Jesus?
Most people have never heard of the ancient Greek mythographer Euhemerus, who first theorized that the gods of mythology were deified human beings, and their myths based on legends sprung from accounts of real people and events. So many might be surprised to find that they are Euhemerists on the subject of Jesus. That is to say, though they may not believe Jesus was the divine Christ that Christianity venerates as the Son of God and savior of the world, and may regard accounts of the miracles and wonders attending him as mere legendary accretion, nevertheless they certainly believe there had to have been a central figure that began Christianity.
Perhaps he was just a wandering teacher or an exorcist, an apocalyptic prophet or a zealot who opposed the Romans. Perhaps he was all these things, or even a composite of several such early first-century figures; but at any rate, surely there had to be somebody at the ...
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Don't carry water for the Devil, OP.
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The Jesus story is an obvious fabrication based on Greek Mystery cults, Egyptian mythology, and European fertility festivals, and since our civilization is built on this lie, is there any wonder it's falling apart as it's underpinnings are seen as being an illusion.

(not that Christians ever followed the teachings of this Jesus to "Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself")

No, they used it as a club to enforce obedience to the authority structure. (Which is self appointed and fake)
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Not surprised so many are falling for OP's lies and half-truths, and historical Omissions.

This pile of shit, has been debunked decades ago.

And yet this brainwashed fucktard keeps posting on this site.
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