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Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil
darth User ID: 28178764 United States 05/14/2022 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil I rarely post, but this article: [link to www.oann.com (secure)] is FALSE! In 1995 when I was an aerospace engineer for a NASA contractor, my 8 year old daughter had to do a science fair project. She and I met with a lunar researcher at JSC, and he gave us a few pounds of "lunar simulant" soil. That is, soil formulated to copy the soil samples brought back by Apollo. We also formulated, on our own, asteroid simulant soil. She planted vegetables in both soils. Both failed. The reason is that soil on Earth has the SALT washed out by rain. The soil on Luna and the asteroids is too high in salt. Note that NEGATIVE findings in an experiment are also valuable. BTW, she is now a highly paid corporate exec and wonderful mom to my grand kids. If I remember correctly, a similar experiment was carried out by NASA right after the Apollo program. However, my 8 year old did ORIGINAL science with the asteroid sample. I searched the journals and it had never been done before. Ad Astra

darth (OP) User ID: 28178764 United States 05/14/2022 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil Some text of the article: AN NEWSROOM UPDATED 1:31 PM PT – Friday, May 13, 2022 For the first time in NASA history, scientists are able to successfully grow plants in lunar soil collected by Apollo astronauts. Researchers announced they’ve grown flowering weeds in 12 small containers of soil, which were brought back by astronauts from the Apollo missions of 1969 and 1972. They saw sprouts after two days, surprising officials who originally were unsure if life could exist in the harsh lunar soil that contained a number of sharp particles and lacked organic material.
The_Gardener User ID: 83105949 United States 05/14/2022 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil Interesting. I would have expected lunar soil to be completely (perfectly) alkaline. I never would have imagined anyone thinking to grow things in it. It's great for reflecting sunlight and nurturing plants in its tide, but it's not terra. The article is patent falsehood. I agree with you. I'd like to see exactly how they supposedly grew flora in moon dust. Last Edited by The_Gardener on 05/14/2022 03:00 PM Who is a liar more than one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? One who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist. Whosoever denies the Son does not have not the Father, either. - 1 John 2:22-23 Daily Prayer & Scripture Reading [link to www.parishprayer.org (secure)]
darth (OP) User ID: 28178764 United States 05/14/2022 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil Oops, hare to read. BTW, her brother studied geology. He discovered and published evidence of glaciers on Mars using the images from the Mars orbiter a year before NASA published same. I should add, why did my kids turn out so wonderful? Simple: NO TV. My kids grew up outside riding their horse, climbing trees, and playing. Their minds were not poisoned. I took them hiking every weekend. We did repair and construction projects together.
darth (OP) User ID: 28178764 United States 05/14/2022 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil Interesting. I would have expected lunar soil to be completely (perfectly) alkaline. I never would have imagined anyone thinking to grow things in it. It's great for reflecting sunlight and nurturing plants in its tide, but it's not terra. Quoting: The_Gardener I have not taken the time to search for the original journal articles, but NASA washed the salt from the lunar samples brought back by Apollo and planted veggies. For reasons they did not understand, the lunar veggies grew FASTER than those in similar Earth soils. Go figure.
BFD User ID: 77681891 United States 05/14/2022 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil I rarely post, but this article: [link to www.oann.com (secure)] is FALSE! In 1995 when I was an aerospace engineer for a NASA contractor, my 8 year old daughter had to do a science fair project. She and I met with a lunar researcher at JSC, and he gave us a few pounds of "lunar simulant" soil. That is, soil formulated to copy the soil samples brought back by Apollo. We also formulated, on our own, asteroid simulant soil. She planted vegetables in both soils. Both failed. The reason is that soil on Earth has the SALT washed out by rain. The soil on Luna and the asteroids is too high in salt. Note that NEGATIVE findings in an experiment are also valuable. BTW, she is now a highly paid corporate exec and wonderful mom to my grand kids. If I remember correctly, a similar experiment was carried out by NASA right after the Apollo program. However, my 8 year old did ORIGINAL science with the asteroid sample. I searched the journals and it had never been done before. Ad Astra Quoting: darth You do know you can flush potted plants, right? You run 2-3x the volume of water equal to the container through it and it pushes the salts out. INFJ/Conservative Artist
The_Gardener User ID: 83105949 United States 05/14/2022 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil Interesting. I would have expected lunar soil to be completely (perfectly) alkaline. I never would have imagined anyone thinking to grow things in it. It's great for reflecting sunlight and nurturing plants in its tide, but it's not terra. Quoting: The_Gardener I have not taken the time to search for the original journal articles, but NASA washed the salt from the lunar samples brought back by Apollo and planted veggies. For reasons they did not understand, the lunar veggies grew FASTER than those in similar Earth soils. Go figure. Quoting: darth I suppose they are attempting to figure out how to grow moon gardens in a sort of colony on the lunar surface. They might require rain, which the moon doesn't supply. I guess if you could remove all the salts from this stuff, something might grow in it. But, then again, it's not lunar soil anymore. It's modified NASA dirt. Last Edited by The_Gardener on 05/14/2022 03:07 PM Who is a liar more than one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? One who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist. Whosoever denies the Son does not have not the Father, either. - 1 John 2:22-23 Daily Prayer & Scripture Reading [link to www.parishprayer.org (secure)]
darth (OP) User ID: 28178764 United States 05/14/2022 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil I rarely post, but this article: [link to www.oann.com (secure)] is FALSE! In 1995 when I was an aerospace engineer for a NASA contractor, my 8 year old daughter had to do a science fair project. She and I met with a lunar researcher at JSC, and he gave us a few pounds of "lunar simulant" soil. That is, soil formulated to copy the soil samples brought back by Apollo. We also formulated, on our own, asteroid simulant soil. She planted vegetables in both soils. Both failed. The reason is that soil on Earth has the SALT washed out by rain. The soil on Luna and the asteroids is too high in salt. Note that NEGATIVE findings in an experiment are also valuable. BTW, she is now a highly paid corporate exec and wonderful mom to my grand kids. If I remember correctly, a similar experiment was carried out by NASA right after the Apollo program. However, my 8 year old did ORIGINAL science with the asteroid sample. I searched the journals and it had never been done before. Ad Astra Quoting: darth You do know you can flush potted plants, right? You run 2-3x the volume of water equal to the container through it and it pushes the salts out. Quoting: BFD Yes, we knew that, but the purpose of the experiment was to use untreated lunar simulant.
BFD User ID: 77681891 United States 05/14/2022 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil I rarely post, but this article: [link to www.oann.com (secure)] is FALSE! In 1995 when I was an aerospace engineer for a NASA contractor, my 8 year old daughter had to do a science fair project. She and I met with a lunar researcher at JSC, and he gave us a few pounds of "lunar simulant" soil. That is, soil formulated to copy the soil samples brought back by Apollo. We also formulated, on our own, asteroid simulant soil. She planted vegetables in both soils. Both failed. The reason is that soil on Earth has the SALT washed out by rain. The soil on Luna and the asteroids is too high in salt. Note that NEGATIVE findings in an experiment are also valuable. BTW, she is now a highly paid corporate exec and wonderful mom to my grand kids. If I remember correctly, a similar experiment was carried out by NASA right after the Apollo program. However, my 8 year old did ORIGINAL science with the asteroid sample. I searched the journals and it had never been done before. Ad Astra Quoting: darth You do know you can flush potted plants, right? You run 2-3x the volume of water equal to the container through it and it pushes the salts out. Quoting: BFD Yes, we knew that, but the purpose of the experiment was to use untreated lunar simulant. Quoting: darth It's definitely interesting but to be expected, you can remedy it easily if you have water. INFJ/Conservative Artist
darth (OP) User ID: 28178764 United States 05/14/2022 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil I rarely post, but this article: [link to www.oann.com (secure)] is FALSE! In 1995 when I was an aerospace engineer for a NASA contractor, my 8 year old daughter had to do a science fair project. She and I met with a lunar researcher at JSC, and he gave us a few pounds of "lunar simulant" soil. That is, soil formulated to copy the soil samples brought back by Apollo. We also formulated, on our own, asteroid simulant soil. She planted vegetables in both soils. Both failed. The reason is that soil on Earth has the SALT washed out by rain. The soil on Luna and the asteroids is too high in salt. Note that NEGATIVE findings in an experiment are also valuable. BTW, she is now a highly paid corporate exec and wonderful mom to my grand kids. If I remember correctly, a similar experiment was carried out by NASA right after the Apollo program. However, my 8 year old did ORIGINAL science with the asteroid sample. I searched the journals and it had never been done before. Ad Astra Quoting: darth You do know you can flush potted plants, right? You run 2-3x the volume of water equal to the container through it and it pushes the salts out. Quoting: BFD Yes, we knew that, but the purpose of the experiment was to use untreated lunar simulant. Quoting: darth It's definitely interesting but to be expected, you can remedy it easily if you have water. Quoting: BFD Water in the form of ice has already been detected in lunar craters where the area is always in the shade. However, many researchers expect to find MORE volatiles such as water in lunar lava caves. We have images indicating HUGE lava caves that could hold an entire city. Comets striking the moon would have deposited volatiles which freeze out in the cold, dark caves. So, the water is there.
Desertwolf User ID: 83204065 United States 05/14/2022 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil I rarely post, but this article: [link to www.oann.com (secure)] is FALSE! In 1995 when I was an aerospace engineer for a NASA contractor, my 8 year old daughter had to do a science fair project. She and I met with a lunar researcher at JSC, and he gave us a few pounds of "lunar simulant" soil. That is, soil formulated to copy the soil samples brought back by Apollo. We also formulated, on our own, asteroid simulant soil. She planted vegetables in both soils. Both failed. The reason is that soil on Earth has the SALT washed out by rain. The soil on Luna and the asteroids is too high in salt. Note that NEGATIVE findings in an experiment are also valuable. BTW, she is now a highly paid corporate exec and wonderful mom to my grand kids. If I remember correctly, a similar experiment was carried out by NASA right after the Apollo program. However, my 8 year old did ORIGINAL science with the asteroid sample. I searched the journals and it had never been done before. Ad Astra Quoting: darth With all the millions of strains and species of bacteria fungus halophalitic plants it is quite believable that you can grow plants on lunar soil. I am sure there are literally hundreds of species of lichen that can grow on the moon. [link to www.researchgate.net (secure)] Last Edited by Desertwolf on 05/14/2022 03:27 PM And here we are staring at each other through an electronic............ error goto ram I FIGHT FOR ROME!!!
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82481113 United States 05/14/2022 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil I suspect Lunar regolith causes mesothelioma.
darth (OP) User ID: 28178764 United States 05/14/2022 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: Growing plants in Lunar or asteroid soil I suspect Lunar regolith causes mesothelioma. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82481113 Good point! Without erosive processes, the grains are as sharp as ground glass. That can be fixed by putting the soil thru a ball mill or similar before planting in it. BTW, Mars is WORSE. There appear to be peroxides that attack organic materials. Ate the seals out of some of the rovers.
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