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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72495408 United Kingdom 05/08/2022 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You people realise that Lithium Batteries are just a stop gap for EVs and combustion engines are never going away? Toyota has known this for decades and they are far ahead of anyone else in the development. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80455869 Toyota will partner up with a metal hydride hydrogen "battery" company like lavo australia and end up making a vehicle that has a combustion engine and safe storage of hydrogen, knocking telsa out of the market. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82859418 United States 05/08/2022 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You people realise that Lithium Batteries are just a stop gap for EVs and combustion engines are never going away? I believe you are incorrect, OP. The electric motor is a much superior motor to the combustion engine. The problem is not the engine, it is the powerplant. If this wasn't battery powered care shit wasn't a scam, the country would be engaged in a long term program to develop the Hydrogen-Fuel Cell...which then replace the battery as the powerplant for the electric motor. But, there is no short-term profit in that for the scamsters. To me, this should be the Republican position: 1. You are overstating the case for climate change. If it is happening at all (which lacks real evidence), it is a slow process. 2. Therefore we will stop all this regulation and manipulation of markets and tax rates and allow unfettered gas and motors. 3. In the meantime, the country will start financing a long term solution of developing Hydrogen-Fuel Cell technology. Like the space program, it will take a technology that is 100 years out and reduce it down to 20 years as a goal. -This shuts up climate nuts, and gives a sensible response that the middle of the road people can accept. -This becomes a new focus like the space program was. -I think most people in the know understand hydrogen power is the long term future answer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72495408 United Kingdom 05/08/2022 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You people realise that Lithium Batteries are just a stop gap for EVs and combustion engines are never going away? overnight, fuelling stations would be pointless, all those tankers not needed to deliver fuel as everyone could split water at home and charge up the tanks of the car. the power grid will obviously always face the same fate. but that was always inevitable. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72495408 United Kingdom 05/08/2022 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You people realise that Lithium Batteries are just a stop gap for EVs and combustion engines are never going away? I believe you are incorrect, OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82859418 The electric motor is a much superior motor to the combustion engine. The problem is not the engine, it is the powerplant. If this wasn't battery powered care shit wasn't a scam, the country would be engaged in a long term program to develop the Hydrogen-Fuel Cell...which then replace the battery as the powerplant for the electric motor. But, there is no short-term profit in that for the scamsters. To me, this should be the Republican position: 1. You are overstating the case for climate change. If it is happening at all (which lacks real evidence), it is a slow process. 2. Therefore we will stop all this regulation and manipulation of markets and tax rates and allow unfettered gas and motors. 3. In the meantime, the country will start financing a long term solution of developing Hydrogen-Fuel Cell technology. Like the space program, it will take a technology that is 100 years out and reduce it down to 20 years as a goal. -This shuts up climate nuts, and gives a sensible response that the middle of the road people can accept. -This becomes a new focus like the space program was. -I think most people in the know understand hydrogen power is the long term future answer. we already have the tech on the market. lavo australia have a safe hydrogen storage tanks that bob lazar showed us in his car all those years ago and toyota have hydrogen engines and tesla has great electric motors and we have high power working hydrogen fuels cells to turn the hydrogen into electric. it's all finally ready. we're getting hydrogen cars, finally. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79173944 Germany 05/08/2022 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You people realise that Lithium Batteries are just a stop gap for EVs and combustion engines are never going away? I believe you are incorrect, OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82859418 The electric motor is a much superior motor to the combustion engine. The problem is not the engine, it is the powerplant. If this wasn't battery powered care shit wasn't a scam, the country would be engaged in a long term program to develop the Hydrogen-Fuel Cell...which then replace the battery as the powerplant for the electric motor. But, there is no short-term profit in that for the scamsters. To me, this should be the Republican position: 1. You are overstating the case for climate change. If it is happening at all (which lacks real evidence), it is a slow process. 2. Therefore we will stop all this regulation and manipulation of markets and tax rates and allow unfettered gas and motors. 3. In the meantime, the country will start financing a long term solution of developing Hydrogen-Fuel Cell technology. Like the space program, it will take a technology that is 100 years out and reduce it down to 20 years as a goal. -This shuts up climate nuts, and gives a sensible response that the middle of the road people can accept. -This becomes a new focus like the space program was. -I think most people in the know understand hydrogen power is the long term future answer. yeah it really pissed me off when Trump trashed the EV Industry. He's not very Intelligent, If he would have said something like you just said. He would have had a lot more supporters. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72495408 United Kingdom 05/08/2022 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You people realise that Lithium Batteries are just a stop gap for EVs and combustion engines are never going away? Oil is not the enemy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83151179 Those that say that oil is the enemy are the enemy. its not an enemy but its also not an endless resource there are 6 billion people on the planet and they all want a new car. oil is endless as far as we can tell. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78063540 United States 05/09/2022 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You people realise that Lithium Batteries are just a stop gap for EVs and combustion engines are never going away? What is likely to happen is this: The government will declare Crude Oil to be a hazardous chemical. They will enact legislation making oil and it's byproducts illegal to possess and handle without a special license. Further, the 'Sheep' and their children will be told to Fear Hydrocarbons (oil and it's byproducts), so if you get a hold of 'some', you'll be immediately ratted out.(Think 'The War on Drugs') At that point, everybody thinks "Well, I guess I'll drive an EV". Wrong. By then, only the ultra wealthy will be able to afford an EV. So, yea, The grid won't go over capacity, There will be enough charging stations, and you won't need a new battery. Because you'll be walking. So, there's your (not to distant) future. Please tell me how I'm wrong. Most of you will be easily scared into this with a small limited nuclear exchange. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78063540 United States 05/09/2022 03:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You people realise that Lithium Batteries are just a stop gap for EVs and combustion engines are never going away? OP, you are right. Combustion engines not going away. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78063540 What is likely to happen is this: The government will declare Crude Oil to be a hazardous chemical. They will enact legislation making oil and it's byproducts illegal to possess and handle without a special license. Further, the 'Sheep' and their children will be told to Fear Hydrocarbons (oil and it's byproducts), so if you get a hold of 'some', you'll be immediately ratted out.(Think 'The War on Drugs') At that point, everybody thinks "Well, I guess I'll drive an EV". Wrong. By then, only the ultra wealthy will be able to afford an EV. So, yea, The grid won't go over capacity, There will be enough charging stations, and you won't need a new battery. Because you'll be walking. So, there's your (not to distant) future. Please tell me how I'm wrong. Most of you will be easily scared into this with a small limited nuclear exchange. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78063540 United States 05/09/2022 03:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: You people realise that Lithium Batteries are just a stop gap for EVs and combustion engines are never going away? Toyota has known this for decades and they are far ahead of anyone else in the development. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80455869 The terrorists choice past decade is toyota, or more. The Toyota War of '87. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] When you build a car so good, the military says ok. |