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Pope Francis Went from Backing Ukraine in War with Russia to Now Saying NATO Caused Russia to Respond in Ukraine – Why the Sudden Change?

 
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Pope Francis offered to meet with Putin but for some reason Putin has not replied. Now the Pope has suddenly gone from supporting Ukraine in its war with Russia to suggesting Putin was responding to NATO’s aggressive moves in Ukraine.

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This does answer one point — why Pope Francis hasn’t visited the capitals of either country in the latest European war. The pontiff told the Italian newspaper Corriere della Serra that he would like to visit both Kyiv and Moscow, but thinks that protocol should dictate that Moscow comes first. However, Vladimir Putin hasn’t bothered to answer:

Pope Francis says that he’s offered to travel to Moscow to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin in an effort to help bring an end to the fighting in Ukraine, but he hasn’t gotten any response from the Kremlin. …


“I asked Cardinal Parolin to convey my message to Putin, that I was ready to travel to Moscow,” he told the newspaper. “For sure, I was waiting for some kind of opening gesture from the Kremlin leader. We received no answer whatsoever, but we keep pressing them on this issue.

“I fear, however, that Putin cannot, or does not want to agree to our meeting at the moment. But how can you not try and do whatever you can to stop the atrocities? Twenty-five years ago we saw something similar happening in Rwanda.”

It’s not as if there hasn’t been any communication between the Kremlin and the Holy See. Francis met with Hungarian PM Viktor Orban on April 21, who told the pontiff that Putin had a “precise plan” to end the war within three weeks. How’s that going? Orban said Putin expected that Russia would cease military operations on May 9 — the national holiday in which Russians celebrate the surrender of the Nazis in World War II.
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Yeah, he should confess on GLP the why rockon
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Yeah, he should confess on GLP the why rockon
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The pope is wrong on most things, but there would've been no war if the Biden crew and NATO didn't provoke it.
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Because he wants to talk to Russia.
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I applaud the Pope.
What changed?

He got educated and stopped listening to the MSM.
He understand the view of Russia here, and the noble cause of liberating the East Ukrainians from the death and destruction of the CIA backed regime.
This battle Russia wages is for the people.
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Because he wants to talk to Russia.
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oh this guy

whatever
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missed the part about NATO there dope
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It's called desperation. Pope is trying to pretend to be neutral in attempt to get face time with Kremlin.

That story you just posted has the pope comparing Ukraine to Rwanda... LOLOLOL.

Russia will continue laughing at this clown most likely.
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I applaud the Pope.
What changed?

He got educated and stopped listening to the MSM.
He understand the view of Russia here, and the noble cause of liberating the East Ukrainians from the death and destruction of the CIA backed regime.
This battle Russia wages is for the people.
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If I'm not mistaken the story has the pope comparing Ukraine to Rwanda. That is such propaganda it isn't even funny. I would assume this to be another ploy. The Pope chose his side long ago... you don't change your mind all a sudden when you're 90 years old or however old this guy is.
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Because he wants to talk to Russia.
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Because he wants to talk to Russia.
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I think it's pointless, but I think that IS his motive.
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Pope Francis offered to meet with Putin but for some reason Putin has not replied. Now the Pope has suddenly gone from supporting Ukraine in its war with Russia to suggesting Putin was responding to NATO’s aggressive moves in Ukraine.

HotAir reports:

This does answer one point — why Pope Francis hasn’t visited the capitals of either country in the latest European war. The pontiff told the Italian newspaper Corriere della Serra that he would like to visit both Kyiv and Moscow, but thinks that protocol should dictate that Moscow comes first. However, Vladimir Putin hasn’t bothered to answer:

Pope Francis says that he’s offered to travel to Moscow to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin in an effort to help bring an end to the fighting in Ukraine, but he hasn’t gotten any response from the Kremlin. …


“I asked Cardinal Parolin to convey my message to Putin, that I was ready to travel to Moscow,” he told the newspaper. “For sure, I was waiting for some kind of opening gesture from the Kremlin leader. We received no answer whatsoever, but we keep pressing them on this issue.

“I fear, however, that Putin cannot, or does not want to agree to our meeting at the moment. But how can you not try and do whatever you can to stop the atrocities? Twenty-five years ago we saw something similar happening in Rwanda.”

It’s not as if there hasn’t been any communication between the Kremlin and the Holy See. Francis met with Hungarian PM Viktor Orban on April 21, who told the pontiff that Putin had a “precise plan” to end the war within three weeks. How’s that going? Orban said Putin expected that Russia would cease military operations on May 9 — the national holiday in which Russians celebrate the surrender of the Nazis in World War II.
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Russian propaganda, they are conflating what the Pope actually said, as usual.
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putin missing?
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The False Prophet Francis jist realized that Lord Putin is the long awaited King of Darkness. The one that was prophecised. Every knee shall bow and every man woman and child shall recieve the mark on thier right hand for post world glo al utopia after the Great Reset.

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Pope needs to fuck off with his Globo-Pedo agenda.
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To hell with this сatholic heretic.
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He knows who is winning and will win.
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He knows who is winning and will win.
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There are no agreements on a meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Pope Francis,

"Such initiatives are submitted along the lines of diplomatic services. There are no agreements on meetings, and they were not made,"

He also did not assess the necessity of such a meeting.

Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told journalists on Wednesday.
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It's called desperation. Pope is trying to pretend to be neutral in attempt to get face time with Kremlin.

That story you just posted has the pope comparing Ukraine to Rwanda... LOLOLOL.

Russia will continue laughing at this clown most likely.

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Exactly!!
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It's called desperation. Pope is trying to pretend to be neutral in attempt to get face time with Kremlin.

That story you just posted has the pope comparing Ukraine to Rwanda... LOLOLOL.

Russia will continue laughing at this clown most likely.

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Exactly!!
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Re: Pope Francis Went from Backing Ukraine in War with Russia to Now Saying NATO Caused Russia to Respond in Ukraine – Why the Sudden Change?
In Russia, Putin has his own Orthodox "father," Patriarch Kirill.
They see each other quite often, even though the constitution says that Russia is a secular country and religion is separate from the government.
If even the Russian Church is officially separated from Putin, why would a foreign "pope" think it possible to insist on a meeting in order to persuade the head of another state to end the war?
The pope has no status in such meetings. he takes too much on himself, really. He's a half-assed peacemaker.
Let the Italian pope go talk - the real instigators of the war. in Ukraine and in Israel, in Switzerland.
Persuading Putin is a waste of Putin's time, the truth is on his side.
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Because the Marxist pope has suddenly had a road to Damascus moment and has realized god is real, he has mocked and scorned the 3rd secret of Fatima, he has said the most heretical things a pope could say about god and Christianity.

So why the sudden change?

The 3rd secret of Fatima.

When Putin reached out to him in the past about consecrating Russia he laughed at him and rebuked him.



What is the 3rd secret?

on the contents of the “Third Secret,” the Pope added, «it should be sufficient for all Christians to know this:
“when you read that the oceans will flood entire continents, that from one moment to the next millions of people will suddenly perish,” if you know this, it is not truly needed to ask for the publication of this “Secret”»



The pope is panicked and scrambling he acted like the pharaoh and ruled with a hardened heart, he must repent and throw the freemasons out of the Catholic church and expose the luciferian agenda.
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Because he wants to talk to Russia.
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oh this guy

whatever
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He wants peace. How would antagonizing Russia lead to Peace? Pope being a diplomat and stating the obvious.
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God told him to cut it out.
230 here, but 0 there.





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