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Human Evolvement / Ascension

 
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"Ascension", "Assumption", or "Translation", the belief in some religions that some individuals have ascended into Heaven without dying first



Most popular in meaning within apocalyptic genre

It is where to visit a place that becomes a state. Psychology lacks the overview of what actually means within an anthropos.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


I can't fathom why not. Psychology is as much mind control as mysticism ever was.
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mysticism? mind control?

Since when? Do you mean through manipulative means based on fear?
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Sincerity probs within both those departments because of shortcuts.

Even a few hundred years ago what took humanity months to years in ability to do takes one time to few because we are closer to the collapse into enlightenment of information. So shortcuts arose for a long time in history causing incoherent information and manipulation to exist until now.
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Cue suffering for information
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Science is art. Is first step in the approach correctly.
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Hmmm, doesn't Art represent Nature? and vice-a-verse-a?
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Nature being natural. It’s why Hawkings noticed no matter the exact formula executed the outcome was always different.

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Science is art. Is first step in the approach correctly.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


Hmmm, doesn't Art represent Nature? and vice-a-verse-a?
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Nature being natural. It’s why Hawkings noticed no matter the exact formula executed the outcome was always different.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


science is its own god. little *g* god.
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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I really like what she has to say here.
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"And I remember there is no point where any of that ends and I begin. I remember I am energy. Not memory. Not self. My name, my personality, my choices, all came after me. I was before them and I will be after, and everything else is pictures, picked up along the way."-Erin
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How many here have experienced kundalini awakening or even understands what that is?
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You know, the Italians noticed all the Roman naked statues had very small traits and the meaning was because the barbarians had pretty big traits and they thought that was ridiculous because they were enemies. Then the Roman’s covered up that fact by saying it was to draw attention to the face of the sculpture. rofl
Europe is weird on kundalini topic
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one word


, C O N G O
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How many here have experienced kundalini awakening or even understands what that is?
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You know, the Italians noticed all the Roman naked statues had very small traits and the meaning was because the barbarians had pretty big traits and they thought that was ridiculous because they were enemies. Then the Roman’s covered up that fact by saying it was to draw attention to the face of the sculpture. rofl
Europe is weird on kundalini topic
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


In Roman days people would laugh at a man with a big dick, because it was seen as a primitive unevolved trait. They did not celebrate man's animalistic nature, they celebrated higher ideals.

We have actually gone backwards in enlightenment since then.
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I am currently working with the idea that to ascend is raising of consciousness from the lower/closer to earth chakras: sex, feelings, power, to the higher (closer to heaven) dimensions of consideration: brotherly love, expression and vision.
 Quoting: Ponderosa537


That is where the problem arises. Raising consciousness is the spirit shamanic problem because there are too many rules and is a dangerous location for many not understanding what they are within. The vision quest is a better way not for self but for the earth and all that live within it.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


So, what are you coming into *existence* of?
 Quoting: Shamar


It’s an attuning phrase. Like how a child becomes an adolescent attunes more novel voices rather than their familiar voices. Sensitivity and separation.
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How many here have experienced kundalini awakening or even understands what that is?
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You know, the Italians noticed all the Roman naked statues had very small traits and the meaning was because the barbarians had pretty big traits and they thought that was ridiculous because they were enemies. Then the Roman’s covered up that fact by saying it was to draw attention to the face of the sculpture. rofl
Europe is weird on kundalini topic
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


Is that right?!

And what is your personal knowledge/experience of it?
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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I am currently working with the idea that to ascend is raising of consciousness from the lower/closer to earth chakras: sex, feelings, power, to the higher (closer to heaven) dimensions of consideration: brotherly love, expression and vision.
 Quoting: Ponderosa537


That is where the problem arises. Raising consciousness is the spirit shamanic problem because there are too many rules and is a dangerous location for many not understanding what they are within. The vision quest is a better way not for self but for the earth and all that live within it.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


So, what are you coming into *existence* of?
 Quoting: Shamar


It’s an attuning phrase. Like how a child becomes an adolescent attunes more novel voices rather than their familiar voices. Sensitivity and separation.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


That's great. But doesn't really answer the question. Maybe you don't know? It's ok if you don't.
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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How many here have experienced kundalini awakening or even understands what that is?
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You know, the Italians noticed all the Roman naked statues had very small traits and the meaning was because the barbarians had pretty big traits and they thought that was ridiculous because they were enemies. Then the Roman’s covered up that fact by saying it was to draw attention to the face of the sculpture. rofl
Europe is weird on kundalini topic
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


In Roman days people would laugh at a man with a big dick, because it was seen as a primitive unevolved trait. They did not celebrate man's animalistic nature, they celebrated higher ideals.

We have actually gone backwards in enlightenment since then.
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Today is May Day. Roman god of flowers.
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You can go searching, you can ask those who seem to know, lamas, gurus, mystics, you will be led.

You may find yourself staring at the
“All”, source, you may find you are staring at yourself.

There is no time there, there is no time, so if you find this unbearable lightness of being, now, or later, it is all the same, all in one, you are the all, you are the one.
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How many here have experienced kundalini awakening or even understands what that is?
 Quoting: Shamar


You know, the Italians noticed all the Roman naked statues had very small traits and the meaning was because the barbarians had pretty big traits and they thought that was ridiculous because they were enemies. Then the Roman’s covered up that fact by saying it was to draw attention to the face of the sculpture. rofl
Europe is weird on kundalini topic
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


Is that right?!

And what is your personal knowledge/experience of it?
 Quoting: Shamar


That’s like asking what do you do for a living. A come up question.
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That is where the problem arises. Raising consciousness is the spirit shamanic problem because there are too many rules and is a dangerous location for many not understanding what they are within. The vision quest is a better way not for self but for the earth and all that live within it.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


So, what are you coming into *existence* of?
 Quoting: Shamar


It’s an attuning phrase. Like how a child becomes an adolescent attunes more novel voices rather than their familiar voices. Sensitivity and separation.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


That's great. But doesn't really answer the question. Maybe you don't know? It's ok if you don't.
 Quoting: Shamar


I thought it answered enough for acquaintance circumstance. Lol
Shamar on guard lol
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How many here have experienced kundalini awakening or even understands what that is?
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You know, the Italians noticed all the Roman naked statues had very small traits and the meaning was because the barbarians had pretty big traits and they thought that was ridiculous because they were enemies. Then the Roman’s covered up that fact by saying it was to draw attention to the face of the sculpture. rofl
Europe is weird on kundalini topic
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


Is that right?!

And what is your personal knowledge/experience of it?
 Quoting: Shamar


That’s like asking what do you do for a living. A come up question.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


No. It's not.

You've answered the question.

It would be wise of you to not speak of things of which you have no personal experiential knowledge..... depsite your BOOK knowledge.
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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So, what are you coming into *existence* of?
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It’s an attuning phrase. Like how a child becomes an adolescent attunes more novel voices rather than their familiar voices. Sensitivity and separation.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


That's great. But doesn't really answer the question. Maybe you don't know? It's ok if you don't.
 Quoting: Shamar


I thought it answered enough for acquaintance circumstance. Lol
Shamar on guard lol
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


watch out i don't come after uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

bwaaahhhaaaaahahahhaahhaaaaaaaaaaaa
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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You know, the Italians noticed all the Roman naked statues had very small traits and the meaning was because the barbarians had pretty big traits and they thought that was ridiculous because they were enemies. Then the Roman’s covered up that fact by saying it was to draw attention to the face of the sculpture. rofl
Europe is weird on kundalini topic
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


Is that right?!

And what is your personal knowledge/experience of it?
 Quoting: Shamar


That’s like asking what do you do for a living. A come up question.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


No. It's not.

You've answered the question.

It would be wise of you to not speak of things of which you have no personal experiential knowledge..... depsite your BOOK knowledge.
 Quoting: Shamar


Yes it is.

I did not answer the question. Wisdom connotes experience and it would be unwise to speak of such sacred things to someone who utilizes negative force to get information they seek when they are not able to grasp the severity of the knowledge.
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It’s an attuning phrase. Like how a child becomes an adolescent attunes more novel voices rather than their familiar voices. Sensitivity and separation.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


That's great. But doesn't really answer the question. Maybe you don't know? It's ok if you don't.
 Quoting: Shamar


I thought it answered enough for acquaintance circumstance. Lol
Shamar on guard lol
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


watch out i don't come after uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

bwaaahhhaaaaahahahhaahhaaaaaaaaaaaa
 Quoting: Shamar


What I do not get is your quotes at the bottom of your posts do not match the thread. I find that very interesting. Lol
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That's great. But doesn't really answer the question. Maybe you don't know? It's ok if you don't.
 Quoting: Shamar


I thought it answered enough for acquaintance circumstance. Lol
Shamar on guard lol
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


watch out i don't come after uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

bwaaahhhaaaaahahahhaahhaaaaaaaaaaaa
 Quoting: Shamar


What I do not get is your quotes at the bottom of your posts do not match the thread. I find that very interesting. Lol
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


I actually was pondering on that one myself.
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I thought it answered enough for acquaintance circumstance. Lol
Shamar on guard lol
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


watch out i don't come after uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

bwaaahhhaaaaahahahhaahhaaaaaaaaaaaa
 Quoting: Shamar


What I do not get is your quotes at the bottom of your posts do not match the thread. I find that very interesting. Lol
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


I actually was pondering on that one myself.
jaynod
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Lol
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Is that right?!

And what is your personal knowledge/experience of it?
 Quoting: Shamar


That’s like asking what do you do for a living. A come up question.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


No. It's not.

You've answered the question.

It would be wise of you to not speak of things of which you have no personal experiential knowledge..... depsite your BOOK knowledge.
 Quoting: Shamar


Yes it is.

I did not answer the question. Wisdom connotes experience and it would be unwise to speak of such sacred things to someone who utilizes negative force to get information they seek when they are not able to grasp the severity of the knowledge.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


Maybe it's just too deep for you. Why do you accuse me of utilizing negative force to get information you perceive I seek?

To think that I seek information from you is immature, self serving, and self-validating. I don't seek anything from you or anyone. I have everything I need and seek from one source only, and it certainly isn't you. If you see my signature as invalidating my own thread, perhaps it is you that is missing the inner wisdom that is provided only by experiential knowledge.

This is a thread for conversation only. I need nothing from you. Feel free to leave with all of your egotistical wisdom that has nothing to share with others.

This is not a game for me. Not at all. If you see it as such, then please leave. You are serving only yourself. No one else.
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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I thought it answered enough for acquaintance circumstance. Lol
Shamar on guard lol
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


watch out i don't come after uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

bwaaahhhaaaaahahahhaahhaaaaaaaaaaaa
 Quoting: Shamar


What I do not get is your quotes at the bottom of your posts do not match the thread. I find that very interesting. Lol
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


I actually was pondering on that one myself.
jaynod
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same for you........

Maybe it's just too deep for you. Why do you accuse me of utilizing negative force to get information you perceive I seek?

To think that I seek information from you is immature, self serving, and self-validating. I don't seek anything from you or anyone. I have everything I need and seek from one source only, and it certainly isn't you. If you see my signature as invalidating my own thread, perhaps it is you that is missing the inner wisdom that is provided only by experiential knowledge.

This is a thread for conversation only. I need nothing from you. Feel free to leave with all of your egotistical wisdom that has nothing to share with others.

This is not a game for me. Not at all. If you see it as such, then please leave. You are serving only yourself. No one else.


Go drink with your buddy, the seeker of that which he knows not.
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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How many here have experienced kundalini awakening or even understands what that is?
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kundalini

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INFJ; We are the protectors.
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How many here have experienced kundalini awakening or even understands what that is?
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kundalini

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 Quoting: Terrebonne


Thank you...........

Namaste'!
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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That’s like asking what do you do for a living. A come up question.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


No. It's not.

You've answered the question.

It would be wise of you to not speak of things of which you have no personal experiential knowledge..... depsite your BOOK knowledge.
 Quoting: Shamar


Yes it is.

I did not answer the question. Wisdom connotes experience and it would be unwise to speak of such sacred things to someone who utilizes negative force to get information they seek when they are not able to grasp the severity of the knowledge.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


Maybe it's just too deep for you. Why do you accuse me of utilizing negative force to get information you perceive I seek?

To think that I seek information from you is immature, self serving, and self-validating. I don't seek anything from you or anyone. I have everything I need and seek from one source only, and it certainly isn't you. If you see my signature as invalidating my own thread, perhaps it is you that is missing the inner wisdom that is provided only by experiential knowledge.

This is a thread for conversation only. I need nothing from you. Feel free to leave with all of your egotistical wisdom that has nothing to share with others.

This is not a game for me. Not at all. If you see it as such, then please leave. You are serving only yourself. No one else.
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How about you seeking through a direct question to me and then utilizing a wrapping of judgement through negative force because I did not answer the way you likened me to answer. And still doing so with providing twisted information that is not true because you are filling in gaps of information you do not have access to. Conversation is hard when there’s the atmospheric distortion of talking down to another. What and whom does that benefit?
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How many here have experienced kundalini awakening or even understands what that is?
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kundalini

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You will like the traditional information provided by the hieroglyphs in this video.
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No. It's not.

You've answered the question.

It would be wise of you to not speak of things of which you have no personal experiential knowledge..... depsite your BOOK knowledge.
 Quoting: Shamar


Yes it is.

I did not answer the question. Wisdom connotes experience and it would be unwise to speak of such sacred things to someone who utilizes negative force to get information they seek when they are not able to grasp the severity of the knowledge.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


Maybe it's just too deep for you. Why do you accuse me of utilizing negative force to get information you perceive I seek?

To think that I seek information from you is immature, self serving, and self-validating. I don't seek anything from you or anyone. I have everything I need and seek from one source only, and it certainly isn't you. If you see my signature as invalidating my own thread, perhaps it is you that is missing the inner wisdom that is provided only by experiential knowledge.

This is a thread for conversation only. I need nothing from you. Feel free to leave with all of your egotistical wisdom that has nothing to share with others.

This is not a game for me. Not at all. If you see it as such, then please leave. You are serving only yourself. No one else.
 Quoting: Shamar


How about you seeking through a direct question to me and then utilizing a wrapping of judgement through negative force because I did not answer the way you likened me to answer. And still doing so with providing twisted information that is not true because you are filling in gaps of information you do not have access to. Conversation is hard when there’s the atmospheric distortion of talking down to another. What and whom does that benefit?
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


As I said, I'm not seeking anything from anyone. My intention was a discussion of the many ways we can experience soul/spiritual growth.

How about this? You and I are clearly on very different vibrational levels, take that as you like. But as such, we are unable to communicate in a meaningful manner.

If you would like to see that as a negative attribute of mine, that's fine. It's your choice, your perception. But you certainly are intelligent enough to know that you can't project it on me or anyone else.

Yes?
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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Yes it is.

I did not answer the question. Wisdom connotes experience and it would be unwise to speak of such sacred things to someone who utilizes negative force to get information they seek when they are not able to grasp the severity of the knowledge.
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


Maybe it's just too deep for you. Why do you accuse me of utilizing negative force to get information you perceive I seek?

To think that I seek information from you is immature, self serving, and self-validating. I don't seek anything from you or anyone. I have everything I need and seek from one source only, and it certainly isn't you. If you see my signature as invalidating my own thread, perhaps it is you that is missing the inner wisdom that is provided only by experiential knowledge.

This is a thread for conversation only. I need nothing from you. Feel free to leave with all of your egotistical wisdom that has nothing to share with others.

This is not a game for me. Not at all. If you see it as such, then please leave. You are serving only yourself. No one else.
 Quoting: Shamar


How about you seeking through a direct question to me and then utilizing a wrapping of judgement through negative force because I did not answer the way you likened me to answer. And still doing so with providing twisted information that is not true because you are filling in gaps of information you do not have access to. Conversation is hard when there’s the atmospheric distortion of talking down to another. What and whom does that benefit?
 Quoting: Coming Into Existence


As I said, I'm not seeking anything from anyone. My intention was a discussion of the many ways we can experience soul/spiritual growth.

How about this? You and I are clearly on very different vibrational levels, take that as you like. But as such, we are unable to communicate in a meaningful manner.

If you would like to see that as a negative attribute of mine, that's fine. It's your choice, your perception. But you certainly are intelligent enough to know that you can't project it on me or anyone else.

Yes?
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Project? Clearly you do not see how you translate to others. I’m defending your projections of me through direction to show you where you offended. Why do you have an issue with seeking? There is nothing wrong with that. The word discussion hinges on exploration and seeking is one of the greatest gifts to man.

The ascension topic is one of the main topics that started my glp journey. I find when people start putting personal info into the mix of discussion it causes problems. Which is why I do not like direct questions about myself aka why is that your avatar name.





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