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Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?

 
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But now they have to start paying interest on the previously "free money" the Fed was handing them.

Also, property taxes are going through the roof.

Wages are not going up so they will have to rent them out at a loss.

I think they're going to dump and crush the housing market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80005207


wages not going up? minimum wage jobs went from $7.25
to $15 in two years. I'm making the most in my life
right now and the company just lost another new hire
to a better offer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24306716


No, but even half those biz will prolly be outta biz in 2 years...
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haha. I forget how many of you never lived through
the 70s. Not idea of what an inflationary era
really looks like.
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Y'all just had expensive gas and crappy cars...
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04/24/2022 03:57 AM
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But now they have to start paying interest on the previously "free money" the Fed was handing them.

Also, property taxes are going through the roof.

Wages are not going up so they will have to rent them out at a loss.

I think they're going to dump and crush the housing market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80005207


wages not going up? minimum wage jobs went from $7.25
to $15 in two years. I'm making the most in my life
right now and the company just lost another new hire
to a better offer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24306716


No, but even half those biz will prolly be outta biz in 2 years...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


Mickey D's is a relatively "safe" investment but what happens when franchise can't afford to do biz yet the parent re co invested in bY big boys isn't getting anything, who buy then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


businesses with low interest loans will effectively
be reaping a profit on those loans through inflation.

the opposite of companies failing through deflation,
which is the model most of you understand from
the past 40 years.

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wages not going up? minimum wage jobs went from $7.25
to $15 in two years. I'm making the most in my life
right now and the company just lost another new hire
to a better offer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24306716


No, but even half those biz will prolly be outta biz in 2 years...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


Mickey D's is a relatively "safe" investment but what happens when franchise can't afford to do biz yet the parent re co invested in bY big boys isn't getting anything, who buy then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


businesses with low interest loans will effectively
be reaping a profit on those loans through inflation.

the opposite of companies failing through deflation,
which is the model most of you understand from
the past 40 years.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24306716


No, my point is there will be a breaking line, and the bottom of the top will be saved through the top of the top...

And much more than can be imagined will fall from the bottom half
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wages not going up? minimum wage jobs went from $7.25
to $15 in two years. I'm making the most in my life
right now and the company just lost another new hire
to a better offer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24306716


No, but even half those biz will prolly be outta biz in 2 years...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304



haha. I forget how many of you never lived through
the 70s. Not idea of what an inflationary era
really looks like.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24306716


Y'all just had expensive gas and crappy cars...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


the 70s were partly inflationary because the B00mers
created enormous demand in commodities as they
entered the job and home markets. They're now
creating same demand in retirement housing outside
of big cities. Federal spending is creating inflation
in large cities this time to drive their exodus.
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04/24/2022 04:05 AM
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
If it does I'll be buying with cash.
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No, but even half those biz will prolly be outta biz in 2 years...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304



haha. I forget how many of you never lived through
the 70s. Not idea of what an inflationary era
really looks like.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24306716


Y'all just had expensive gas and crappy cars...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


the 70s were partly inflationary because the B00mers
created enormous demand in commodities as they
entered the job and home markets. They're now
creating same demand in retirement housing outside
of big cities. Federal spending is creating inflation
in large cities this time to drive their exodus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24306716


Not that I could have explained it that well but yeah, the difference is that they'll be going by by, and the federal shit inside cities will accomplish what I mentioned, but even the big corpos will suffer and need to be saved by who I mentioned above...
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04/24/2022 04:07 AM
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
If it does I'll be buying with cash.
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You're way late to the party and you might need to save that for what's to come...
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04/24/2022 04:10 AM
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
I've heard one will get you by, 2.2 to be relatively comfortable, but I'd be shocked if 8 or 10 was what it took to be poverty...
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04/24/2022 04:12 AM
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Exactly! Once Blackrock and Vanguard scoop up all the available houses, most folks dreaming of home ownershio will be shit out of luck.
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But now they have to start paying interest on the previously "free money" the Fed was handing them.

Also, property taxes are going through the roof.

Wages are not going up so they will have to rent them out at a loss.

I think they're going to dump and crush the housing market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80005207


wages not going up? minimum wage jobs went from $7.25
to $15 in two years. I'm making the most in my life
right now and the company just lost another new hire
to a better offer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24306716


No, but even half those biz will prolly be outta biz in 2 years...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


And it’s only minimum wage. The higher wages didn’t rise so much.
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
Boo-hoomers don't care either way. Can't take it with them they don't give a fuck, spend it all.

Remodel that pos house with a fake river in front of it. damming in rainwater from a Walmart parking lot does not a river make.
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But now they have to start paying interest on the previously "free money" the Fed was handing them.

Also, property taxes are going through the roof.

Wages are not going up so they will have to rent them out at a loss.

I think they're going to dump and crush the housing market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80005207


wages not going up? minimum wage jobs went from $7.25
to $15 in two years. I'm making the most in my life
right now and the company just lost another new hire
to a better offer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24306716


No, but even half those biz will prolly be outta biz in 2 years...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


And it’s only minimum wage. The higher wages didn’t rise so much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82978549


Not even most of the minimums went up...

Just corpo fascys
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04/24/2022 04:15 AM
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
Already happening.

Since mortgages were based on very low interest rates for the first time, this crash will be catastrophic because if interest rates are used to control inflation, mortgage would treble and quadruple and worse. If interest rates cannot be used to control inflation then hyperinflation occurs.

China and Russia know what they are doing.

With the removal of the domainance of the US, nation states will be free to make their decisions without being bullied and the end of globalism and it's awful effects will be over.

Gold and Silver IS INFLATING. And massively. BUT the inflation is happening on PAPER with the promise to mine more to meet the demand later in affect. If physical delivery demand begins, a run on silver and gold will begin. The paper is worthless and 1000 times the actual physical available and growing.
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
Already happening.

Since mortgages were based on very low interest rates for the first time, this crash will be catastrophic because if interest rates are used to control inflation, mortgage would treble and quadruple and worse. If interest rates cannot be used to control inflation then hyperinflation occurs.

China and Russia know what they are doing.

With the removal of the domainance of the US, nation states will be free to make their decisions without being bullied and the end of globalism and it's awful effects will be over.

Gold and Silver IS INFLATING. And massively. BUT the inflation is happening on PAPER with the promise to mine more to meet the demand later in affect. If physical delivery demand begins, a run on silver and gold will begin. The paper is worthless and 1000 times the actual physical available and growing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82888259


Ergo an ounce of gold will be worth one thousand times what it is worth today. All your old electronics will be worth many, many times what they are worth now because of the gold and silver in them
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No, but even half those biz will prolly be outta biz in 2 years...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


Mickey D's is a relatively "safe" investment but what happens when franchise can't afford to do biz yet the parent re co invested in bY big boys isn't getting anything, who buy then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


businesses with low interest loans will effectively
be reaping a profit on those loans through inflation.

the opposite of companies failing through deflation,
which is the model most of you understand from
the past 40 years.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24306716


No, my point is there will be a breaking line, and the bottom of the top will be saved through the top of the top...

And much more than can be imagined will fall from the bottom half
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


possible but the timing will be different than you
may think. The 2008 crash actually began in Dec 2005,
I was monitoring housing starts and that was the
month the trendline reversed.

it took 2 1/2 years to displace enough through
the system to crash. this time IS different
and some other factor is critical.
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04/24/2022 04:19 AM
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Mickey D's is a relatively "safe" investment but what happens when franchise can't afford to do biz yet the parent re co invested in bY big boys isn't getting anything, who buy then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


businesses with low interest loans will effectively
be reaping a profit on those loans through inflation.

the opposite of companies failing through deflation,
which is the model most of you understand from
the past 40 years.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24306716


No, my point is there will be a breaking line, and the bottom of the top will be saved through the top of the top...

And much more than can be imagined will fall from the bottom half
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


possible but the timing will be different than you
may think. The 2008 crash actually began in Dec 2005,
I was monitoring housing starts and that was the
month the trendline reversed.

it took 2 1/2 years to displace enough through
the system to crash. this time IS different
and some other factor is critical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24306716


I experienced that era in first hand with a microscopic view...
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04/24/2022 04:20 AM
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
This is very different and will likely happen more seemingly suddenly
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04/24/2022 04:20 AM
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
Except lumber been going up a long time...
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04/24/2022 05:24 AM
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
This is very different and will likely happen more seemingly suddenly
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What’s going to happen when people who have mortgages for 500K and the house is worth half that and they decide to walk away? That’s what happened in 2008-2009.
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04/24/2022 05:27 AM
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This is very different and will likely happen more seemingly suddenly
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What’s going to happen when people who have mortgages for 500K and the house is worth half that and they decide to walk away? That’s what happened in 2008-2009.
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That's why I said the same yet different...
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04/24/2022 05:27 AM
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
The first time it was ARMs
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It won't take an ARM this time...
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This is very different and will likely happen more seemingly suddenly
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What’s going to happen when people who have mortgages for 500K and the house is worth half that and they decide to walk away? That’s what happened in 2008-2009.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77045651


That's why I said the same yet different...
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Do you think the lenders will be bailed out this time? This is a mess. It’s called causing great anxiety because everyone will get hosed except for the freeshit army getting ebt cards and being on section 8 and what not.
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This is very different and will likely happen more seemingly suddenly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


What’s going to happen when people who have mortgages for 500K and the house is worth half that and they decide to walk away? That’s what happened in 2008-2009.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77045651


That's why I said the same yet different...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82973304


Do you think the lenders will be bailed out this time? This is a mess. It’s causing great anxiety because everyone will get hosed except for the freeshit army getting ebt cards and being on section 8 and what not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77045651


Edit

I can’t stand auto correct or this device.
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
bump
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
Building materials are still at an all time high.

A crash will happen when you least expect it, but not likely, even though it should be crashing.

If you don’t own a home by now, you’re probably not going to be able to, due to low inventory and cost to build.
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
Looking bad!
 Quoting: Truth Seeker!


100000%

All the gains are built on low int rates for decades and wealth effect


Very few areas is it truly based on demand


I remember in 2007 morons said same thing: no houses for sale!
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
For those that have paid off homes….they are going to up your taxes so you can no longer afford to live there. That means property values and assessments will continue to go up until people who own their homes outright are forced to sell.

Then the crash for everyone else.
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Re: Will the housing market crash like 2008 again!?
It will be soon where everything will be priced in gold / silver only.
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Looting
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The stupid “preppers” never think or prepare for that.
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Come get some.
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Looking bad!
 Quoting: Truth Seeker!


yep, but I'm ready this time...

My house is paid for...


No stocks, just PM and cash and food prep to last at least one year...

and after that I hope Yeshua comes soon...

I'm too old to go full Mad Max Apocalypse...

Ragnor-IZB4B
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