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Philly Special
User ID: 75634793 United States 04/01/2022 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm more of a personal choice person, but I think it gets cloudy when the abortions are being paid for with tax dollars and when a woman just use the procedure as a means of birth control. Quoting: Picapau I'm not studied on how often the former happens but I know a woman who has had at least 4 of them. Wow, first response mostly nailed it, from my perspective. I've never liked the idea, and I know that I would never approve it for someone I knocked up. However, the reality is that people are going to do it whether legal or not. Making it illegal and therefore much more dangerous doesn't fix a single thing. On the other side, using it as a form of birth control is reprehensible. I can't fathom being so callous about human life. Its a super complex issue, and one that doesn't have any right answer. The average woman has 7 miscarriages in her life that she wasn't aware of. Many women who get pregnant young and have an abortion, end up regretting it later on in life when they have children. There is also something completely fucked up with the double standard that a person who murders a pregnant woman (whether they were aware of the pregnancy or not) gets charged with 2 murders, but a mother terminating her own child is not a crime. The only true answer to all of this, from a societal perspective, is to make all kids sterile until they pass some kind of test and interview proving they are fit to have a child, to get the sterility reversed. But that is an entirely fucked up idea that tramples all over human rights, free will and really wouldn't work in the long run anyway. |
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Agent 99
User ID: 77082640 United States 04/01/2022 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually the problem is DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. Pregnant women are murdered and newborns are murdered because of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. Happens ALOT. So if a woman doesn't have a choice she will use whatever means to abort even if it means killing herself not to allow her murderer to get her first. Further, many rapes, even marital rapes happen. ALOT. Casual sex, underage sex. Lots of sex going on and that should be the issue! The circumstances results in more complications. So to have new mothers not charged with murder or be murdered there must be medical options for her. |
Agent 99
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82581191 United States 04/01/2022 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 99% of these individuals would be unfit parents. Quoting: TWash Why is it the US taxpayer's responsibility to pay for their way through life? Why should we care about the liberals being liberal with their reproductive systems? Do we need more LGBTQRS indoctrination? Many of you claim, or ask why anyone would want to raise a child in the world today. We don't need more of these types around, we need less. I can feel the red breathing down my neck, but I just posed the question. I didn't make the world what it is now. This is one of the most unintelligent posts I've ever read |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82581191 United States 04/01/2022 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually the problem is DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. Quoting: Agent 99 Pregnant women are murdered and newborns are murdered because of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. Happens ALOT. So if a woman doesn't have a choice she will use whatever means to abort even if it means killing herself not to allow her murderer to get her first. Further, many rapes, even marital rapes happen. ALOT. Casual sex, underage sex. Lots of sex going on and that should be the issue! The circumstances results in more complications. So to have new mothers not charged with murder or be murdered there must be medical options for her. Almost 50% of the victims of domestic violence are men |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82149456 United States 04/01/2022 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus Christ, the great REDEEMER can forgive all sins Are you born again? Do you believe Jesus died on the cross for you? Do you believe Jesus died and rose again? "Half of the troubles of this life can be traced to saying yes too quickly and not saying no soon enough.” Psalm 32:5 King James Version 5 I acknowledge my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah. |
Dirck de Noorman
User ID: 82679518 United States 04/01/2022 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can call it whatever you want but murder is immoral, illegal, and a mortal sin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82186634 You're not wrong, but I will not miss a wink of sleep due to the transgressions of others that have zero effect on my life. The tax dollars you contribute pay for the murder of innocents. You enable them. You guys are still paying taxes? Asking for a friend... Not in 20 years. I enable nobody with the fruits of my labor, not in the form of "federal income tax," anyhow. Last Edited by Ms. Dirck de Noorman on 04/01/2022 02:00 PM Good girls go to heaven ~ Heathen women go wherever the fuck they want |
Builder of the Adytos
User ID: 79688307 United States 04/01/2022 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We? I don't give AF about "we". I believe abortion is immoral. Can you legislate morality? No Not always. We can keep fetuses alive earlier now though than in 1973 so I think instead of 26 weeks, the cutoff should be twenty. If a woman can't make a decision in twenty fucking weeks... Anyway, the liberals want her to be able to kill her child whenever she wants -- even after birth. Until 18? When does it become "murder" to those assholes? Not a rhetorical question. I live in California -- until I can get out. (I am not from here.) AKA Tiger Blood |
wkk
User ID: 82668688 United States 04/01/2022 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Abortion shouldn't be an option for irresponsible sexual practices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82679215 We have castration for that. What is a 12 year old girl is raped by some gang in the hood, and has issues that almost guarantee her death if she carries a baby to term? Should she suck it up, and live with the consequences? What if the government decided to pass laws saying just what you believe. No abortions...live with the consequences. BUT... you chose to go to wal Mart and people are spreading Covid their, so report to the nearest vaccine clinic for your shot. Dont worry about the risk... just leave it in Gods hands. your defense of the killing of millions of kids is for the three fu*ked up times some crazy thing happened? You're talking about a 0.001% chance of those circumstances happening. So because its is rare, we need to pretend like it doesn't happen? I'm sure those who live thses stories probably would disagree with you, as to them... it feels like their whole world. The FACT that you would dismiss those victims, and pass a law FORCING everyone to follow your little beliefs, just shows how little thought you actually give to the people this subject effects. You sound just as stupid as the people saying we should have forced jab laws. Because adverse effects are rare. Should the government tell you what medical procedures you can and can't have? The situation you speak of is so rare that it is rather silly to base the laws for an entire nation based on that rare type of situation. Rape itself is so traumatic that pregnancy rarely happens, and you would have to rape a child that just happens to be in the ovulation cycle. This type of situation is rare, but it has happened and strangely enough, those poor children/girls who had their babies and went on with their lives, the damage primarily seems to come from the rape rather than bringing the child into the world. They gave the child up or their mother raises it. The situation is certainly a trauma, but the baby is not the blame. I can never quite understand why women think their entire life is destroyed when they carry a baby for 9 short months. Much of that time, (unless they have bad morning sickness) they don't even feel much different. Last Edited by wkk on 04/01/2022 02:12 PM wkk |
Tanoros
User ID: 79649433 United States 04/01/2022 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 99% of these individuals would be unfit parents. Quoting: TWash Why is it the US taxpayer's responsibility to pay for their way through life? Why should we care about the liberals being liberal with their reproductive systems? Do we need more LGBTQRS indoctrination? Many of you claim, or ask why anyone would want to raise a child in the world today. We don't need more of these types around, we need less. I can feel the red breathing down my neck, but I just posed the question. I didn't make the world what it is now. The world has a lot that can be changed for the better. Abortion is immoral, even if it can help reduce the amount of libtards. Embracing immoral behavior as a society doesn’t produce long term benefit. Like for example, the trans movement. Each to their own for sure, but pretending to be something you aren’t, and then expecting others to agree to that fantasy, doesn’t produce any benefit to the rest of society. We (as a society) need to live and exist in truth in order to begin turning this world around. Acting as if murdering unborn children is ok, isn’t ok. About children in the womb, unprompted my young daughter told my wife and I about her baby brother who, “broke” in moma’s belly. He broke because he “wiggled” too much. My wife miscarried one of the two twins at 12 weeks, at that time we didn’t even know we had twins. This was not something we discussed with my daughter. My point is, we (as a society) don’t rightly know when “life” begins. Probably best to consider life beginning at conception. As a society we could easily build a system to help mothers who carry babies to term and help those babies find good homes/families. That would be the just approach. Also, how hard is it to use methods such as condoms and birth control? Woman shouldn’t rely on getting an abortion as a form of birth control, and we as a society should not embrace that behavior. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82044645 United States 04/01/2022 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 99% of these individuals would be unfit parents. Quoting: TWash Why is it the US taxpayer's responsibility to pay for their way through life? Why should we care about the liberals being liberal with their reproductive systems? Do we need more LGBTQRS indoctrination? Many of you claim, or ask why anyone would want to raise a child in the world today. We don't need more of these types around, we need less. I can feel the red breathing down my neck, but I just posed the question. I didn't make the world what it is now. it a question of how much innocent life is valued. the same people for abortion are against capitol punishment, lives that aren't innocent. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365281 United States 04/01/2022 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scared young teens date raped is one thing hard enough to have to see...but when grown up women do this due to their own stupid selfish animal carelessness and are bar hopping one night standers is another thing. You should have more respect for yourselves then that. |
Scorched
User ID: 80365094 United States 04/01/2022 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because walking around schlepping what ever you see is dirty, destroys morals, and for many reasons, is a sin. Mankind needs a strong foundation. Not one made up of whores and disease. They have us completely surrounded...those poor bastards |
PositiveVibration
User ID: 81231893 Netherlands 04/01/2022 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 99% of these individuals would be unfit parents. Quoting: TWash Why is it the US taxpayer's responsibility to pay for their way through life? Why should we care about the liberals being liberal with their reproductive systems? Do we need more LGBTQRS indoctrination? Many of you claim, or ask why anyone would want to raise a child in the world today. We don't need more of these types around, we need less. I can feel the red breathing down my neck, but I just posed the question. I didn't make the world what it is now. Hey OP for what its worth: if the person was raped, I understand abortion. And i think with me the majority. What I dont understand is people using it as a means to get rid of something that could be prevented. If you know how to have sex, you know the possible consequences.. there are condoms, birth control pills and many more options. If one has used any of the above and one still gets pregnant, i can also understand it. Witnessed a friend and his gf getting pregnent even when they used condom and pill. How big are those chances? But it does happen. Maybe there are some more exeptions i havent given a thought, but otherwise in my opinion one should take responsibility. Also people using aabortion as birth control should be getting different help then abortion alone. But yeah my take for what it's worth as a guy. OneLove |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79589531 United States 04/01/2022 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm completely in favor of abortion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82199436 Humans have always controlled their birthing and always will, until the end of time. In this forum there will always be a huge tilt against because of all the preaching bibletards, who can go fuck themselves. yup ... back in biblical times a woman with an unwanted pregnancy would have given birth to it, then bashed it's skull in -- or would have drowned it in the Jordan River or, would have used very methods or "herbs" to induce a miscarriage |
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can
User ID: 72420274 United States 04/01/2022 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49545246 What is a 12 year old girl is raped by some gang in the hood, and has issues that almost guarantee her death if she carries a baby to term? Should she suck it up, and live with the consequences? What if the government decided to pass laws saying just what you believe. No abortions...live with the consequences. BUT... you chose to go to wal Mart and people are spreading Covid their, so report to the nearest vaccine clinic for your shot. Dont worry about the risk... just leave it in Gods hands. your defense of the killing of millions of kids is for the three fu*ked up times some crazy thing happened? You're talking about a 0.001% chance of those circumstances happening. So because its is rare, we need to pretend like it doesn't happen? I'm sure those who live thses stories probably would disagree with you, as to them... it feels like their whole world. The FACT that you would dismiss those victims, and pass a law FORCING everyone to follow your little beliefs, just shows how little thought you actually give to the people this subject effects. You sound just as stupid as the people saying we should have forced jab laws. Because adverse effects are rare. Should the government tell you what medical procedures you can and can't have? The situation you speak of is so rare that it is rather silly to base any laws on that one situation. Rape itself is so traumatic that pregnancy rarely happens, and you would have to rape a child that just happens to be in the ovulation cycle. It is the rape that does the most damage--not the giving birth. The twelve-year-old rape victim has already been damaged by the rape which will change her life forever. Ironically, the twelve-year-old would probably be more willing to go ahead and have the baby than many wealthy businesswomen who don't want to be bothered. This type of situation is rare, but it has happened and strangely enough, those poor children/girls who had their babies and went on with their lives, the damage primarily seems to come from the rape rather than bringing the child into the world. They gave the child up or their mother raises it. The situation is certainly a trauma, but the child is not the blame. I can never quite understand why women think their entire life is destroyed when they carry a baby for 9 short months. Much of that time, (unless they have bad morning sickness) they don't even feel much different. It accounts for a very small percentage, rape, incest and the mother's life in danger. Their trauma should not give a free pass to the evil pieces of shit that want to use it as birth control. I had an aunt who was gang raped and she kept her daughter, who was very much loved. There are women out there who do keep their children from rape and incest or they give them up for adoption. How about they put the rapist in jail or cut their dicks off so they can't do it again. Quit making abortion the solution to those crimes. Compare the DNA of the baby to the rapist if it's a match cut their dick off. |
Tuko
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82678985 United States 04/01/2022 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With the ease with which birth control is accomplished, you have to wonder about women who want to be able to get pregnant and kill the baby. There is something really fucked up going on. There is NO EXCUSE for getting pregnant "accidentally" unless you were raped. I believe the general trend is for the empowerment of feminist women and they GET OFF on the power of killing babies and controlling who lives and dies. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54810607 United States 04/01/2022 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the issue. You do it once cuz you fucked up and you feel horrible about doing it. You've learned your lesson. You've also had the abortion as early in the pregnancy as possible. Semi acceptable You do it often and have a frequent punch card. You brag about it and celebrate the event on social media. Pure evil |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79477110 United States 04/01/2022 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 99% of these individuals would be unfit parents. Quoting: TWash Why is it the US taxpayer's responsibility to pay for their way through life? Why should we care about the liberals being liberal with their reproductive systems? Do we need more LGBTQRS indoctrination? Many of you claim, or ask why anyone would want to raise a child in the world today. We don't need more of these types around, we need less. I can feel the red breathing down my neck, but I just posed the question. I didn't make the world what it is now. fake question....leads off with fake data and subjective views. |