Probably going to catch hell from a lot of you - why are we so against abortion?

We prefer that there are more people who are raised by parents or a parent who didnt want those children, so that there are more criminals, miserable and suicidal people in the world.

I support it if it comes with sterilization

Don’t want to be a parent fine now you won’t be.

Always remember that Adolf Hitler was a big supporter of animal rights. Fido, Lassie, Bambi, Simba, Mr Ed, Flipper, etc, were safe with Adolf.

But for humans? Not quite as much.

Hitler was also a homosexual into socialism. Not that there's anything wrong with those things. It's just that Hitler was a "lefty."

Not sure the idiot comment was necessary. I'm well aware of the fact that I pay income, property, and sales tax. My comment was actually intended to be a joke. We don't need any more Will Smith threads, friend.

That shuts their holier than thou faces every time

I don't like that abortion has become a form of birth control for many or most (side note: funny how Bill Gates father was CEO of Planned Parenthood. That should raise some red flags)

But more to the point....

I always felt at the moment of conception (that spark seen under a microscope) is the spark of consciousness.
And I believe at the moment of birth/first breath, the spirit or soul enters.

So I never really saw abortion as murder as so many do. I don't particularly like it nor would I ever advocate for it but I would make it law that after your abortion (unless you were raped) mandatory hysterectomy is performed. I think that consequence would exponentially sway many to decide what's right!

we need to stop sacrificing kids to Moloch thats how satan gets a lot of his power from -

I agree with many of your points, OP. However, I think it's a slippery slope to condone it. It cheapens life in society. It's already moved that way with "medical futility." Look at how some states don't want to waste resources saving people. That's my main reason... it's a slippery slope that cheapens life in society.

I'm not your friend. I don't make friends with people who sanction the murder of innocent babies. They're idiots who can't think beyond their own lusts.

Wrong.

I had a girl abort my child at a young age fucked me up for life you never get over the thought that you should have stopped it.

Logical consequences, personal responsibility, crimes of the parents judged to be punishment of the innocent.

It no longer matters, this society was never meant to work any different then it has. These conversations have not changed one bit in my 50 years.

I haven't read the entire thread, though I've seen lots of good points. Another aspect might be that a person might think twice about a doctor willing to kill a healthy unborn child.

Last Edited by Eilonwy on 04/01/2022 12:28 PM

This

I do not believe in limiting abortion for the first trimester only, when natural miscarriage occurs, due to remembering, being conscious all my life, of when I took the womb, just prior to birth.

However brain growth occurs and preemie births can occur mid second trimester on up. 14 weeks, half ways through a normal pregnancy roughly, just shy a week or two, is when the earliest preemie births that survived have occurred though very rare.

My experience is subjective not objective, it cannot apply to knowledge about everyone.

Most importantly, in the second and third trimester, they administer agonizing drugs to the infant believing they don't feel pain, and dismember them to remove, chain saw massacre to the infant often.

NO!

It is a ritual child sacrifice and you'd a demon to suggest that instead of a just and fair world where everyone shares resources to some degree and has land, that we should ritually sacrifice and brutally dismember the fetus/babies, some of whom stand a chance of survival if born.

Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 04/01/2022 12:29 PM

I am against abortion with tax money, but I am ok with other people having the choice.

I think there's better forms of birth control too, and that a male pill or reliable male method is needed.
I want all children be loved and wanted.

Last Edited by Hadriana on 04/01/2022 12:33 PM

God must be ok with abortion.

I use to believe in abortion until I saw an ultrasound of an abortion and saw this being fighting for its life right before it was killed. I decided at that point the mothers rights weren't important anymore. The being fighting for its life was.

I get the bad parents shouldn't have kids idea so maybe there offspring is better off dead, but that doesn't cut it.

We as a human collective are not only murdering these beings we also keep some alive and put them in sound proof boxes to be sent to labs alive so they can be dissected alive. There is now a huge black market on live aborted babies organ parts.

Do we have a problem? Yes we do a big one. Is our best answer the murder of the innocent? Is that the best humans can do? really? If that's true, then we don't deserve exist either. We are no better than the evil we judge.

My bottom line is don't become the thing you hate! You don't solve the unwanted child problem by murdering the child...you find better solutions to societies problems that doesn't make that an option.

Oh wow. Another atomized individual parroting the great liberal virtue of not caring about what others do.

It affects everyone. If it doesn't affect you, why are you taking the time to make a thread about it?

Because the one true living God whom I serve calls it murder. And your opinion that it is not a life has zero value whatsoever before God. So when acts of God judgments kill millions, you will ask, "why me?" and it it because you declared the fetus or baby not to be a human life. And you should not ask why you are being killed since you showed that you have little or no value on human life so why not kill you then? You are working in league with the devil to kill the innocent, a delicacy to the devil.

I am completely in favor of people making their own decisions and having to take responsibility for those decisions.

There shouldn't be a law banning abortions but there also shouldn't be tax payer money tied up in the racket.

If Social services deems the parents of a 9yr old child unfit.... do we sentence the kid to death. I'm not sure where the first part of your logic stems from.

The parents may be unfit so we will just kill the child?

Yes, because my thread was intended to push the pro-abortion agenda. Never once did I advocate for abortion. I did; however, understand that when I posted it, it would become controversial.

I don't really care whether you would be my "friend" or not. I did suppose that by saying friend; however, that you might assume that I mean you no ill will, nor meant any attempt to diminish your beliefs.

The controversial threads sure do indicate people's true colors though. I figured that an intelligent individual could see past their belief system and conduct intelligent discourse without their feelings getting in the way.

It's on me for making that assumption.

Edit: before we get "We don't need more of these types around, we need less." turned around - I wasn't talking about the unborn...

Last Edited by TWash on 04/01/2022 12:42 PM

Concise and accurate.

they need large amounts of child sacrifice to fuel their desires

Looshin!

Money, a man made artificial system of slavery and exploitation, is not more important than life.

You don't kill to save money, its not about money.

You get rid of the artificial system and ensure people's natural right to land that the globalist monsters removed from people, is restored, that all have land, and you stop exploiting people.

You have true free enterprise with cottage industries and small businesses flourishing off private owned residencies, not monopolies. People don't have to work for pennies for another person's dream business so the owner can have land, and a few of his prize workers, but the rest can barely afford to rent a hobble.

You have judicial that upholds the constitution and provides remedy of law and protection from tyranny, or they are removed and charged in some cases, not No Standing, which is illegal in and of itself, to say you have no standing to remedy of law.

So Freedom AND Equality.

Money is not even needed.

Nothing artificial is needed.

Exploitation is especially not needed.

Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 04/01/2022 12:41 PM

I am completely in favor of people going to jail for murder for those decisions.

Agency is agency. It is not my place to control someone but I would never be party nor do I think it will be looked kindly upon. That said we do have a forgiving Father so there is that.