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The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God

 
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Common sense, alone, should testify to us of the hatred of Satan for the Creator; and the many tools he brings to the table to convince us that his hatred is justified. He was able to bring a third of holy, sinless angels into into rebellion against their Creator over what appeared to be unjust and despotic rule. The worst possible light was put on His laws which governed the Universe and all of Heaven, itself. He determined from the beginning to change the laws of God, and to teach all of Creation that HE (Lucifer) was a much more benevolent being than the Creator and that he would allow much more freedom under his rule than the rigid and unchanging Godhead.

His plan was brilliant. Although he was not immortal (God ONLY hath immortality), he knew he would be long-lived, even without access to the fruits of the Tree of Life which allowed perpetual life. His plan was to span millenia and he RELIED on the FACT that God was long-suffering, merciful, and unconditional in His love for His Creation. He actually believed that he could subvert God's plan, and he still does.

Satan knew from the beginning the importance of what the Creator intended with the Holy Rest of the Seventh Day, woven within the Creation event, itself--the ONLY source from which the seven-day week exists. There is nothing else in NATURE which reflects the seven-day week which we have observed since civilization began. It began in antiquity and has been followed since, despite attempts to change it over time. Seven was THEN and is NOW the very epitome of perfection while TEN was the symbol of COMPLETION. Satan knew he couldn't change this, but he COULD confuse the actual day of rest. Over a course of thousands of years, he succeeded, and the result, as they say, is history. Much of the world now worships and RESTS on Firstday (sunday) and on Sixthday (Friday) and is out of tune with Creation, itself. The crowning act of Satan will come to its complete fruition when the current events bring us to international LAWS that are mere months away from being enacted in the name of conformity, nature, family, and placation of an angry God who's wrath is about to fall upon us.

It is thus how the two great lies have been so completely ingrained in our world--the immortality of the soul and the change of Sabbath from seventh-day to first-day. The immortality of the soul assures us of eternal life though God tells us that the "soul that sins shall die", and the fallacy of first-day worship which does not include the very presence and the God-awful rest of our Father which He gave us as a PERPETUAL reminder of HIM and the Creation Event.

From this brilliant plan, Satan was now able to paint a portrait of a God that would PURPOSELY torture finite creatures for as long as God exists--for eternity--and giving vile, sinful men the opportunity to live forever in their sin; ruled over and guided by Satan and his evil angels as a REWARD for putting one over on the Ancient of Days. In the final analysis, Satan's view of success would be to defeat God by His own Laws and destroy Him by those same Laws.

Of course, Jehovah knew all this from the beginning--even before He created Satan. He held nothing back from him. He was the highest CREATED being in Heaven, created with "pipes" that could HARMONIZE with the entire angelic choir, beautiful beyond measure with an intellect unmatched. Even with all of this, the "counsel" between Father and Son left no stone unturned to bring him back from the precipice. He has long since grieved the Spirit of the Holy Pair and his fate is sealed. Hell was created just for Satan and His angels and they will suffer long according to the depth of their sin, but eventually they will be burned up "root and branch" and the Heavens will return to a Universe with no discordant notes, no blight, NOTHING AT ALL to remind us of that awful period in time (except by OUR testimony). It is US who will prevent it from ever happening again through the ceaseless ages to come.
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The kingdom of God will come out of the sky and land within about 2 years...
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Common sense, alone, should testify to us of the hatred of Satan for the Creator; and the many tools he brings to the table to convince us that his hatred is justified. He was able to bring a third of holy, sinless angels into into rebellion against their Creator over what appeared to be unjust and despotic rule. The worst possible light was put on His laws which governed the Universe and all of Heaven, itself. He determined from the beginning to change the laws of God, and to teach all of Creation that HE (Lucifer) was a much more benevolent being than the Creator and that he would allow much more freedom under his rule than the rigid and unchanging Godhead.

His plan was brilliant. Although he was not immortal (God ONLY hath immortality), he knew he would be long-lived, even without access to the fruits of the Tree of Life which allowed perpetual life. His plan was to span millenia and he RELIED on the FACT that God was long-suffering, merciful, and unconditional in His love for His Creation. He actually believed that he could subvert God's plan, and he still does.

Satan knew from the beginning the importance of what the Creator intended with the Holy Rest of the Seventh Day, woven within the Creation event, itself--the ONLY source from which the seven-day week exists. There is nothing else in NATURE which reflects the seven-day week which we have observed since civilization began. It began in antiquity and has been followed since, despite attempts to change it over time. Seven was THEN and is NOW the very epitome of perfection while TEN was the symbol of COMPLETION. Satan knew he couldn't change this, but he COULD confuse the actual day of rest. Over a course of thousands of years, he succeeded, and the result, as they say, is history. Much of the world now worships and RESTS on Firstday (sunday) and on Sixthday (Friday) and is out of tune with Creation, itself. The crowning act of Satan will come to its complete fruition when the current events bring us to international LAWS that are mere months away from being enacted in the name of conformity, nature, family, and placation of an angry God who's wrath is about to fall upon us.

It is thus how the two great lies have been so completely ingrained in our world--the immortality of the soul and the change of Sabbath from seventh-day to first-day. The immortality of the soul assures us of eternal life though God tells us that the "soul that sins shall die", and the fallacy of first-day worship which does not include the very presence and the God-awful rest of our Father which He gave us as a PERPETUAL reminder of HIM and the Creation Event.

From this brilliant plan, Satan was now able to paint a portrait of a God that would PURPOSELY torture finite creatures for as long as God exists--for eternity--and giving vile, sinful men the opportunity to live forever in their sin; ruled over and guided by Satan and his evil angels as a REWARD for putting one over on the Ancient of Days. In the final analysis, Satan's view of success would be to defeat God by His own Laws and destroy Him by those same Laws.

Of course, Jehovah knew all this from the beginning--even before He created Satan. He held nothing back from him. He was the highest CREATED being in Heaven, created with "pipes" that could HARMONIZE with the entire angelic choir, beautiful beyond measure with an intellect unmatched. Even with all of this, the "counsel" between Father and Son left no stone unturned to bring him back from the precipice. He has long since grieved the Spirit of the Holy Pair and his fate is sealed. Hell was created just for Satan and His angels and they will suffer long according to the depth of their sin, but eventually they will be burned up "root and branch" and the Heavens will return to a Universe with no discordant notes, no blight, NOTHING AT ALL to remind us of that awful period in time (except by OUR testimony). It is US who will prevent it from ever happening again through the ceaseless ages to come.
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One of the few things left to me at my age and circumstances is to make dvd's of important discoveries, recent movements, "present truth", current obscure news, and things put together by others to warn of specific events which lead to last-day events.

It is fairly well known here of recent developments in Russia to marginalize and pass laws against movements like the Jehovah Witnesses within their borders. This is bad enough on the face of it, but they are not the ONLY group that is being singled out. The Mormons, the SDA's and other "protestant" groups are included as EXTREMIST organizations and therefore dangerous. Few realize that these steps were taken almost simultaneously with the "reunification" of the Vatican with the Russian Orthodox Church. ALL forms of evangelism are being restricted--EXCEPT all evangelism done by THEM. They are even making agreements among themselves to not even accept members from THEIR OWN ORGANIZATION to join each others' organizations.

Since then, (and before then), there have been other "wound-healing" events going on among varied "Orthodox-type" organizations throughout the world, as well as many Protestant organizations--uniting on common beliefs and disregarding the things which have separated them for hundreds and thousands of years. Even those who have no disposition towards religious or spiritual things should take heed, because the natural result of this is not just to "harmonize their gospels", per se; it is also to harmonize the whole world to their "reformed" dogma--including laws to compel your conscience.

It will all be VOLUNTARY at first. Just as in times past, decades or even centuries were allowed to pass before the desired results were accomplished. Time has always been on their side and they were willing to wait and work in the shadows. However, there seems to be an URGENCY and a "window of time" being pushed upon us; creating fear and a time-frame in which it will be TOO LATE. Satan, himself, has been busy in the "laboratories of nature", creating and sustaining unhealthy environments, wild and crazy weather, pollution on a massive scale of our pristine lakes and rivers, and "accidents" which put the entire world at risk of destruction the likes of which we have never seen--such as Fukushima, the massive plastic infestation among animals and sea life, and the massive die-offs that have been increasing to an alarming degree.

While "climate change" and "global warming" seem to be EVIDENT in our world today, the catch words and phrases we hear today were birthed long ago--and contested to a large degree by MANY in a time of more level-headed thinking just a few decades ago; those level heads are no more. The few that are left are left to their own devices, incredulous that the world is merrily going upon its way; preferring instead to bury their heads in sand and hoping for the best.

I prefer not to "wonder after the Beast." It is getting more and more difficult NOT to see those "three foul spirits like frogs" insinuating" themselves into our daily lives. Anything that CAN be shaken is being shaken. It is God, Himself that is doing the sifting--and it is happening NOW. As much as I dislike it, there should perhaps be a decided effort to unmask and expose (and reprove if necessary) those who are following after the Beast and his Image and the False prophet which are all infected with PAGANISM, SPIRITUALISM AND FALSE DOCTRINE. This is an especially distasteful task since even my own church is in apostasy. It is long prophesied that He will begin the "cleansing" at HIS own House. No one is exempt from this terrible time. Many lights are going out. It is going to shock us when we see PILLARS fall.
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Have you dealt with God's Sovereignty and the implications that has regarding grace?
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Have you dealt with God's Sovereignty and the implications that has regarding grace?
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Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

verse 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

verse 12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy,and just, and good.

It is not just SOME of the law, it is ALL of the law that is holy and just and GOOD.

This is a theme THROUGHOUT the Scriptures, but Paul being the equivalent of a DOCTOR of the law (and respected throughout all of Israel as an EXPERT in the law) came to understand the BALANCE that grace brings (which Israel was ignorant of) and the Divine importance of both to come to a FULL and complete understanding of what is required of us.

When we consider that ATONEMENT was possible throughout the ENTIRE Old Testament, was it the blood of bulls and goats that provided the GRACE? Was their atonement nothing but analogy and metaphor? Was it actual or was it make believe? When we consider that the blood of Christ was available to us and WOVEN into Creation from day one, the blood sacrificed by animals was as the VERY BLOOD SHED BY CHRIST. It is in this sense that Grace and Truth(the law) kissed each other in the plan of Salvation. "To the Law and to the testimony" (grace). If it is NOT according to the Law and to the testimony, there is NO TRUTH in it. We cannot pick and choose which law is viable. We also cannot pick and choose when grace applies. Satan has had MILLENIA to confuse us on this issue. Jesus came and FULFILLED THE LAW. This does not mean He did away with it. (not 1 jot or tittle...). He fulfilled it with His Blood. Otherwise, ALL those sacrifices of the Old Testament would have been pointless and they all would have died in their sin. That includes the Patriarchs and the Prophets as well as the Kings and the Priests.

I can empathize with the concept and the difficulty in coming to the FULL Truth of this issue. I cannot judge and am HAPPY to just see seeking souls search out the Scripture as for hidden treasure. We can only pray that ALL issues that divide us through Satan's sophistries will be revealed to us and after having DONE ALL, be able to stand in the Last Day.
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Have you dealt with God's Sovereignty and the implications that has regarding grace?
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Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

verse 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

verse 12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy,and just, and good.

It is not just SOME of the law, it is ALL of the law that is holy and just and GOOD.

This is a theme THROUGHOUT the Scriptures, but Paul being the equivalent of a DOCTOR of the law (and respected throughout all of Israel as an EXPERT in the law) came to understand the BALANCE that grace brings (which Israel was ignorant of) and the Divine importance of both to come to a FULL and complete understanding of what is required of us.

When we consider that ATONEMENT was possible throughout the ENTIRE Old Testament, was it the blood of bulls and goats that provided the GRACE? Was their atonement nothing but analogy and metaphor? Was it actual or was it make believe? When we consider that the blood of Christ was available to us and WOVEN into Creation from day one, the blood sacrificed by animals was as the VERY BLOOD SHED BY CHRIST. It is in this sense that Grace and Truth(the law) kissed each other in the plan of Salvation. "To the Law and to the testimony" (grace). If it is NOT according to the Law and to the testimony, there is NO TRUTH in it. We cannot pick and choose which law is viable. We also cannot pick and choose when grace applies. Satan has had MILLENIA to confuse us on this issue. Jesus came and FULFILLED THE LAW. This does not mean He did away with it. (not 1 jot or tittle...). He fulfilled it with His Blood. Otherwise, ALL those sacrifices of the Old Testament would have been pointless and they all would have died in their sin. That includes the Patriarchs and the Prophets as well as the Kings and the Priests.

I can empathize with the concept and the difficulty in coming to the FULL Truth of this issue. I cannot judge and am HAPPY to just see seeking souls search out the Scripture as for hidden treasure. We can only pray that ALL issues that divide us through Satan's sophistries will be revealed to us and after having DONE ALL, be able to stand in the Last Day.
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Romans is a life changing book that feeds the souls of those thirsty for God's truth.
The truth about living for Christ (and not the desires of our flesh) in holy obedience to God in Romans 6 is a counterpoint to the freedom that we receive by grace through faith in Christ. It is not a requirement of our salvation as much as it is evidence that we have been saved. This is not an exercise in semantics, but rather a response to loving, desiring, and treasuring Christ above all things...and our willingness to sacrifice ANYTHING in following him.
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My final thoughts for this day is of milk, and of meat, final events and what has been fulfilled already--and what little there is left to happen.

Few here have reached that final stage spoken of in Hebrews Chapter 5 and "leaving behind" the things associated with the Gospel of Christ such as repentance from dead works, laying on of hands, and the other things listed which SO MANY beat to death every day to the point of nausea.

It certainly seems from my point of view that ALL the plagues are falling/have fallen, from the taint in the air, the pollution of rivers and streams, darkness upon the seat of the beast...and all the rest. We are not quite there yet, but we are certainly seeing the beginning of "every living soul dying in the sea. As far as I can tell, the only thing left is the great earthquake and the warnings about that is in the news every day of how we are RIPE for the "big one" in several different parts of the world.

It is sad to say that my own church which has prepared itself to give the final warnings of Revelation 14, are being given by those who are HEEDING the warnings of the angels (many even here) without benefit of a world-wide organization that reminds them/us every day of our duties in this area; yet they cannot do it in power themselves--even getting cozy with the very ones which they should be warning AGAINST. Yes, many of you ARE giving this message and some of you don't even realize that you are playing the part of "the very stones crying out" at the failure of those CALLED to give it.

There are still quite a few here who are on the fence. I honestly believe that there are also some who have recently come down from that fence--and bringing that experience into their own lives, sharing it with loved ones, friends, and even fellow church people who have no clue that a fence even exists. In the end, there will be no fence dwellers left. People are making decisions for eternity--and they are no more than a foot away from either side of the fence. Eternal life or eternal death is the result of that choice. Contrary to what many believe, there are NO SECOND CHANCES. When the Savior returns, His reward is with Him--for life or for death. There will be nothing secret about it, for ALL eyes shall see it and ALL faces will go pale; and some will go completely black. We who are alive will not PRECEDE those who are already dead. There is no chance of being "left behind" to fight another day. Multitudes have believed that lie and have neglected the preparation time. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I still hope for a "golden age". That hope grows dimmer day by day. It has been said to me that the days of "turning swords into plowshares" was fulfilled in the past and simply not possible in the current state of affairs. I am resigned to that possibility, but I am still hopeful. I am glad for the one or two, or the five or ten that "get it". I would love to see ALL get it. I, myself, want to get it ALL. There are still things "left to die."

I don't know how much time we have left to even discuss things here. This will be one of the FIRST sites to be taken down. I am sure that it is "on the list", and I am sure that we are all KNOWN. In the new paradigm to soon come, we will be branded EXTREMISTS. I will wear it proudly. At the very least, we will not be LUKEWARM. At the other end of the spectrum, we will "buy of Me GOLD, tried in the fire."
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Clearly, this is a time when very little can be trusted. We cannot trust ourselves for the heart is desparately wicked. We cannot trust those around us. We cannot trust our own eyes, our mouths, our knowledge, our feelings or even our nature. As the Preacher tells us, "all is vanity." What then can we trust? Can we trust our leaders? Can we trust their writings? Can we trust ANY of the so-called scholars, religious leaders, political leaders, or any of the others who are desperately trying to do ANYTHING to wake up a sleeping world?

The answer is no. We cannot trust anybody--even ourselves. There is only one source, and that is the Word of God. I, like many of you, have used the word to enrich my life and give it meaning beyond anything that the world can offer. Unlike many, however, I was (and am) willing to risk my relationship with the world and use those principles that the Word convicted me of. Very few know the experience of living up to God's standards or even know what those standards are.
Few know the lonliness, degradation and shame of righteousness through faith in the God of the Bible. I didn't need the Bible to teach me the truth. God the Father taught me and His Word confirmed it. Many times, a truth of the Bible had no meaning until the maturity of life cleared up a mystery and fullfilled the joy that was incomplete.

So why do I say all these things? Because the time has come for the mysteries of the ages to be revealed. The culmination of all things is at hand. The Three Angel's Messages of Revelation 14 are about to sound throughout the world with a message so startling, that the foundations of the world's institutions will crumble. Institutions which have existed for millennia and cherished as unshakable will be exposed for all that they are: mere workings of the Mystery of Iniquity which will also be exposed. The great religions of the world will fall. Nothing can stand beside the truth. Though they may stand to the end, their death throes will appear long before their destruction. The events will be quick ones. Throughout all of time, events proceeding the publication of new truths has inevitably resulted in the downfall of all who refused to budge to the obvious truth--reluctant to relinquish the honors and privileges of the ruling body of knowledge, power, and wealth. The world will not survive the upheaval that will occur. Like the Great Deluge, God will provide an Ark for us to escape the destruction. What is this Ark? Here, my friends, is the story of the Second Ark. This story could not be told, were it not for a body of knowledge that has existed since creation that has been kept alive through the oracles given to Israel, handed down to the disciples, carried to mountain graves by the Waldensians, Hugenots and others willing to die for this knowledge of salvation, grace and Eternal LIfe. For the first time since God created the universe, the Kingdom of God will be preached in all the world--and then shall the end come.

The emphasis lately seems to be focussing mainly on two books--Daniel and Revelation--as they should be. We are admonished to do so and promised a blessing. We are also told that one unlocks the other to reveal vital knowledge of last-day events--which is also true. However, as they stand, these two books are like the last two books of a scientist's log of experiments. No one could duplicate the scientists feats without an understanding of the processes leading up to the final events. This, then, is the dilemma we are now faced with. Just when we think that all the knowledge pertaining to last day events have been scrutinized to the ulimate, a new element which was missed before, but was vital to our understanding, comes to light and changes our perceptions of what we considered the truth. Indeed, this new perception changes everything which we previously took for granted. The new element also has another very important role. It takes a position which was otherwise unshakable, shakes it to the marrow, and makes the new truth virtually unassailable from all directions. In other words, the new truth--simply because a process of change upholds and solidifies it--becomes even stronger in a new way. Examples of this have occurred in all the sciences throughout all the ages. We have now reached a point in our development where new light is very hard to come by. Advances in science are based primarily on truths fairly well established. Even in the relatively infant sciences such a Recombinant DNA technology, Laser and Maser technology, holography, computer sciences, etc.--most discoveries are based on knowledge and technology already present. The basic truths for these disciplines were discovered long ago.

This is also the point we have reached. The foundation of our understanding was established long ago, but it is still in the process of completion. Remember, the 144,000 are to become a part of the Temple and be pillars in it. This means that the mansions being prepared have a living connection to those they are being prepared for. But we are getting ahead of ourselves.

There is much to express in the pages ahead. This is why I will keep any debate to a minimum. I will also separate many postings so it is not so time consuming, both to myself and to those who may be reading this thread. I, myself, have a short attention span when it comes to long postings. I am not looking for response. I am not looking for confirmation. I will not be detracted by trolls and others who disagree. I do not need praise nor am I deterred by unbelief. I will simply post it and leave it to you all to disseminate. To be perfectly frank, I have a ministry on the streets that keeps me quite busy. I am in my 60's and know that my time is short. There is one thing that I know for certain. Whatever the walk of life of those who I come in contact with and however those people would be "judged" by others, they (without exception) want to know where they stand in the scheme of things. All have those who love them and those whom they love. Their lifestyles range from the depraved to the sublime, yet all have a desire to know the truth. Even the most depraved of them all would desire to know God if they could get beyond their own personal hatred of themselves. Even the deepest, darkest sinners and those filled with violence have an innate desire to be free of their "demons". I have seen many of these "untouchables" and "unlovables" become champions (in their own ways) of truth, love, and life. For this reason, I hope many of you can look beyond your own biases and give this and the pages to follow, a thorough and open-minded study.
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I see you're talking to yourself. Anyway, the bible tells us there will come a time when 'god' will create a "new" heaven and a "new" earth. Just wondering, what the hell is wrong with "god's" heaven of today?? Why the need for a "new" heaven? The words of Ingersoll come to mind:

"I cannot see why we should expect an infinite God to do better in another world than he does in this." Ingersoll
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Nothing is wrong with today's Heaven.

But notice what has happened to earth?

In the beginning, not even one couple (Adam & Eve)...was willing to "obey the rules" at that point...to NOT EAT from the tree.

And at some point early on, not even all the angels were obedient to God (Satan and his followers).

God gave dominion over the entire earth to humankind. Between non-believers and the fallen, look at what the earth has become.

verysad

So God created a plan called Salvation, which allows people to chose to willingly choose to become part of the new Heaven and new earth. People willing to follow the commandments.

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Within the Mystery of the Kingdom of God, it cannot be complete without some understanding of the Mystery of Iniquity. My eyes were opened at this and my experiences challenged my understanding and belief. Place after place that I visited in search of the called and chosen of God, led me to truths and interactions on levels that I did not know existed. It was both a blessing and a curse. It was a miracle that I could tell the difference between one and the other.

My first real eye-opening event was an invitation by a Nun in the Roman Catholic church and required me to enter into a Cathedral to seek her out. I was extremely apprehensive to say the least. I spent some time outside before entering, praying for guidance and safety. I gathered whatever courage I had and stepped into the Cathedral. Instantly, I felt the Holy Spirit of God and he said to me, yes, I am here too. I fully expected it to be black according to my childhood experiences. From the time I entered until the time I left, the Holy Spirit was powerfully present. I am not just talking about the Spirit in ME. The Spirit was in the place, itself.

I met with the young nun, barely looking like she had come out of High School. She was a humble person to a fault and we had a wonderful visit together. She was very open to the truth and loved God in ways we rarely see. Though I never went to a place that negatively impacted the church she so much loved, I made sure that she would have the opportunity to see the truth as it is IN CHRIST. I came to a MASSIVE realization that God has HIS people in every place, specifically so that they would have an opportunity to recognize HIM when He visited them; and remove all excuses if they decided to reject Him. We prayed to Him in the Spirit, and there was no doubt in my mind that God had touched this young woman. I left her material so she could OBJECTIVELY see the truth. She made it clear that her objective in meeting with me was to know the whole truth of God, His Kingdom, and her role in it. I will never forget the experience.

This happened time and time again. I have sat at meal with Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Pentecostals, and many other denominations, and I can only say that the experience was the same. Though there were huge differences in our belief structure, the Holy Spirit was present in every case in very powerful ways. The Lord blessed us all with understanding that could be accomplished in no other way than by a face-to-face, heart-to-heart communication. Even in antagonistic situations, the Lord used this to impress the heart in amazing ways. I especially recall a time meeting with a staunch Baptist who was DEATH on SDA's. Every attempt I made to break through this AWFUL confrontation, met with hatred and vitriol I had never seen before. I was at a loss as to what to say or do. I didn't have to FEEL so powerless. God knew EXACTLY what to say, and He said it straight from the Throne in Heaven. The man first thought that I was JW and held nothing but contempt. He then thought I was Mormon and his contempt was just as great. Upon discovering that I was SDA, if looks could kill, I would be dead. It was at this very point that God said: "Obviously you are looking upon us (myself and one other with me) as scum and Satan's spawn. WHY are you not reaching out to us with God's love to lead us to the truth?" I have never seen a person fall apart, his whole body shaking and sobbing with remorse and pain. For obvious reasons, I was not surprised. The person with me was SHOCKED. The lesson was for him just as much as it was for the man. I consoled the man with God's love and we had wonderful fellowship together. I will never forget that experience either.

This has happened with Eastern religionists as well. I can't even BEGIN to tell you of the experience with SUFISTS, a brand of Islam called "whirling dervishes". Talk about an antagonistic environment. Even as they were whirling around and "working up the spirit", I was fellowshipping with one man and was able to get through to him in spite of the confusing activity. I've had experiences with other Islamists as well. God breaks down ALL those walls if we can just believe it.

Of course, I see much of that kind of hatred and vitriol, here. There is atheism and agnosticism here, but I have had wonderful experiences with them too--sometimes even moreso than with professed Christians. Well-read atheists are some of the most profound people I have met. They were not ignorant of the Law and the Testimony, but they had frankly never met anyone who met up to that expectation. They wanted the truth just as much as anyone else. All they needed was a GLIMPSE of it, and everything changes. The Holy Spirit can say in FIVE WORDS what we cannot accomplish in our own strength with a hundred.

Iniquity abounds and the heart grows cold because of it. We are so bothered by it that in a flash, we can go from personable to demonic. So many threads here go from personable to antagonistic, and it robs us of understanding, sympathy, and TOLERANCE. Some grit their teeth and try to maintain a balanced spirit, but the mystery of iniquity gets to their "old man" and they fall back to a "survival place" to stand their ground. It's unfortunate but necessary for those who are weak. For the moment they forget that "when they are weak, they can be strong in Christ.

This testimony is getting book length so I will cut it short. I could go on for hours--not as a testimony for what "I" can do, but for what HE can do if we just let Him.
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I see you're talking to yourself. Anyway, the bible tells us there will come a time when 'god' will create a "new" heaven and a "new" earth. Just wondering, what the hell is wrong with "god's" heaven of today?? Why the need for a "new" heaven? The words of Ingersoll come to mind:

"I cannot see why we should expect an infinite God to do better in another world than he does in this." Ingersoll
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Nothing is wrong with today's Heaven.

But notice what has happened to earth?

In the beginning, not even one couple (Adam & Eve)...was willing to "obey the rules" at that point...to NOT EAT from the tree.

And at some point early on, not even all the angels were obedient to God (Satan and his followers).

God gave dominion over the entire earth to humankind. Between non-believers and the fallen, look at what the earth has become.

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So God created a plan called Salvation, which allows people to chose to willingly choose to become part of the new Heaven and new earth. People willing to follow the commandments.

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I couldn't have answered that better than you did. There is DISCORDANCE in this world (and universe wide), and a New Heaven and Earth will remove all traces of that discordance and we will never let it raise its ugly head again. Thanks for your input.
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hey OP, nice thread. Do you know about the symbolism/mystery in your AV? some gnostics would say it's a vagina.. not trying to be gross. just wondering if you were turned on to that part of the mystery.
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hey OP, nice thread. Do you know about the symbolism/mystery in your AV? some gnostics would say it's a vagina.. not trying to be gross. just wondering if you were turned on to that part of the mystery.
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Yes, that has been pointed out to me before. It means nothing to me. It was just a picture that seemed appropriate at the time. No one else was using it, so I chose it. I've thought about changing it but never did. It's just not important to me.
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These sheets of ruby (each approx one cubit) are the "narrow windows within the entire temple structure)--pretty impressive "sea of glass" in itself)

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The lasers, themselves (another sea of glass),

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The National Ignition Facility--very similar to the temple structure--except the "light wheel" at the front is to the height of the tower--there are 42 towers--enablish that which is behind it to withstand the crushing forces it is navigating. The light contained within (fully relective gold-covered surfaces and utensils) COMBINED with the 12 foundational stones which protect its precious cargo--the LIVING STONES

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Another diagram of NIF facility. With the "line of flax" or atomization of the entire structure and each cubit becoming "quebits" in a quantum computer--it is not beyond the imagination to "see" the means of how the Kingdom of God is structured, accessed and navigated. Even in the "silence in Heaven for the space of a half hour" when all of Heaven empties itself and is on its way here (15 days in prophetic time--7 days coming, one day to do its work and 7 days ascending to the sea of glass)

The technology is right in front of us. Quantum space/time is becoming ACCESSIBLE in ways unimaginable 100 years ago. Stephen Haawking gives us another 100 before we self-destruct. We can do a lot in 100 years if we can survive it--maybe even BE that object circumnavigating that black hole we "observed" in our distant future. Quantum navigation would change the whole vernacular--let alone the reality. Going into the NOW; it all makes sense somehow. Entanglement has already been initiated and any time-accessing events can now access its beginning pointst; the time/times that quantum entanglement became a technological reality. A "Signet to the Nations" by some reckoning. It COULD be a golden age if we let it. We COULD be ashamed if we tried. It is really not completely out of our reach to do plowshares and pruning hooks.
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It's been an interesting (or should I say non-interesting) several days. I don't know if others have noticed, but there has been a DECIDED spiritual attack on GLP. I saw it almost as it began. There were several posters who were sharing very spiritual things and seemed full of the Holy Spirit. I first noticed the attack on me and then I saw nearly every spiritual post go dark. I RELY on the spirituality of others to test my own spirit.

Satan has had several thousand years to perfect his approaches to those who "follow the Lamb whithersoever He goes" It's really quite amazing to see how he does it--especially to me. It makes us(me) doubt what I am doing, where I've been and what I know. None of us are beyond it. It is only RARELY that I cannot find someone speaking TRUTH. The past several days have been that rarity. Gradually, it is beginning to pick up again. From my point of view, it seemed like there was a period where intuitive and very spiritual observations were being made as "present truth". Present truth, as SDA's perceive it has to do with having no CREED, since truth is PROGRESSIVE (not to be confused with progressive liberalism). The founders had reached several stages of development and recognized that until Jesus returns, He would address each generation according to their present understanding. The 1800's were a strong evidence of this. Historically speaking, the 1800's EXPLODED with various views as to what truth represented. All over the world, truth was discovered simultaneously (just as in science which happens often). It was very similar in Luther's day. Luther was not the only one who challenged current thinking in his time. There were many who opened up areas of truth that others were not even aware of. God does no leave it to just one man (though He has in the past). (Abraham, Noah, Elijah, John the Baptist, and some prophetesses)

I really believe that Satan ahd his minions watch this place--both to spread lies and to counter truth. Why GLP? Why Now? From the first moment I found this place, I saw the LAST, BEST place to finish the "testimony", and NOW is the LAST, BEST time to do it. There are many here who will take their place alongside those who resist Satan's last moves--and they are CLOSE. SDA's have been waiting for this time for a very long time. I am sure that there are a few who thought that they would never see this day, some are really surprised by it, and there are many warning others of the times. Unfortunately, it has been stated so many times in just my lifetime, that the warnings do not have the effect they should.

Almost everything that has been warned about is now happening. This has been stated here before. It is not new. However, the DEPTH and the OPENN3ESS of it--without any seeming fear of discovery on their part--is a bit disconcerting. Never before have ALL the elements been existent as it is now. The highest court of the land, the executive branch and congress itself is now in their control, and they are CEMENTING it daily. Even the strongest Sabbath-keepers on the planet (Israel) are now willing to give the Sunday day of rest a chance while still giving their Sabbath day of rest some honor. This is actually HOW the Sunday observance began in the first place (side by side as holy days until ONE became LAW. It will be this way again. They are not so foolish to think that it can all be accomplished in one day. Eventually, even our CONSCIENCE will be challenged to go along with the majority.

You all will see this happen and many will STILL not believe that this is Satan's plan. Not in this day and age--not possible! We will not believe the dark-ages thinking that approaches and is here NOW. Common sense, alone, should break through these lies, but common sense is going out the window. Cooler heads have prevailed in the past, but they will NOT in the near future. We are IN tribulation. It is not future. Every nation is poised for war while the orthodox churches unite in apostasy. We are inundated with false knowledge, false prophecy, false news, false warnings of the Mark and other "waypoints", false weather, and much more. Even if it is for just ONE MORE to awaken to truth and the times, it is worth it. Lot pleaded for just 10 and not even one could be found to prevent the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. That ONE may have been THE ONE that would have prevented destruction. JUST ONE MORE.

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Lot pleaded for just 10 and not even one could be found to prevent the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. That ONE may have been THE ONE that would have prevented destruction. JUST ONE MORE.
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There was never one. Lot pleaded, but God never changed. God is omnipresent and simultaneously outside and all throughout time. He reveals that to us with his name: I AM.
He exists at all time...separating the beginning from end with a day like a thousand and a thousand years like a day. God knew all along that he would destroy Sodom and Gomorrah and it was for his glory that it was done.

That said...should we evangelize and engage in apologetics? Absolutely, because in doing so we get the privilege of being involved sharing the gospel with our brothers and sisters who have yet to wake from the delusions of this world...we also share with those who utterly reject the gospel and God is glorified in the rejection, and even persecution we face for doing so.
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OP I am enjoying the read... So May I give you some thoughts.


Everyone waits for the revealing, I no longer look to theologians for their theory on end times, as I think many have misunderstood it. Only 2 met Jesus in the temple.

The sign in the heavens announced the birth of the child Jesus. This was a single body, prepared for sacrifice.

Now we have the same sign approaching again, but this birth will be a many membered body, not meant for a sacrifice on a cross, and born not as a baby, but as a mature manchild.

These ones are to be revealed as members of the church, similar to the revealing the first time in the book of acts.

It is also possible that the resurrection of those who have gone before us, will occur an they will be united with those of us who live now at this time. The first joined with the last.

Have you considered this.
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OP I am enjoying the read... So May I give you some thoughts.


Everyone waits for the revealing, I no longer look to theologians for their theory on end times, as I think many have misunderstood it. Only 2 met Jesus in the temple.

The sign in the heavens announced the birth of the child Jesus. This was a single body, prepared for sacrifice.

Now we have the same sign approaching again, but this birth will be a many membered body, not meant for a sacrifice on a cross, and born not as a baby, but as a mature manchild.

These ones are to be revealed as members of the church, similar to the revealing the first time in the book of acts.

It is also possible that the resurrection of those who have gone before us, will occur an they will be united with those of us who live now at this time. The first joined with the last.

Have you considered this.
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The dead "have nothing to do with anything under the sun." The people of God will not be without power. Though they are innocent and righteous, they know that there does not need to be blood shed ever again. They are the last generation and they know it. All will make a stand and fear no violence even though violence will be all around them. Though multitudes will seek their life and even a death decree made against them, they will wave their arms and the weapons will fall harmlessly to the ground. All previous generations had their share of "blood seed"--shed blood that generated "seed" for the next generation. There will be no seed blood in the last generation. Not one Saint need die.

The first will be joined with the last in the resurrection. The Scriptures tell us that the living will not precede the dead. The dead rise first and then "we who remain" will be caught up with them. The last generation will have all the gifts of God. During this awful period, there will be no Mediator for man. All of heaven will be emptied for the space of a half hour. Angels will still care for and watch over us, but there will be no repentance or remission of sin. All will have been decided. All will have the key of David which is simply "righteousness by faith". David was an adulturer and a murderer. In spite of this, he was "a man after God's heart." He is a major example for us and how we can be accorded righteous by our faith--in spite of our sin. All sin will have been repented of and cherished sin eradicated from the life. This can only be accomplished by Power direct from the throne. A single cherished sin, no matter how small, can result in eternal death. It is not just faith in the EXISTENCE of Christ Jesus, it is faith in His power to overcome sin--cherished and that "which so easily besets us."

Contrary to popular belief, Jesus will NOT remove sin from our life at His coming. All cases will have been decided before that. His reward for life or death is with Him at His appearing. It is when the saints are rising that God will perform "His strange act". The fiery stream which flows before Him will burn up root and branch of those "left behind".

There is SOME evidence that we will have a part to play in the Earth made new. Creative power will be given so that we may EXPERIENCE it. Anyone still struggling with sin in spite of the many warnings, need not despair. Believe His promises. Have faith that He can perform His Perfect Will in you. David believe and was accounted worthy. As a KING, he stood before the nation and priests and confessed his sin.

I know that many here are "chomping at the bit" for that ONE piece of knowledge or "revealing" that will get them through this period that is upon us NOW. It's not about words, it is about ACTION. The word "believe" literally means to grab ones self by the seat of the pants" and DO what is required. There is no secondary way around this. This is the "rod of iron". There will be no exceptions to this rule.

There is no strenght in numbers when it come to this. This is an INDIVIDUAL effort. Entire churches will be lost. There may not even be churches anymore (of the saints). There is Scriptural evidence that we will gather in "companies" to survive the upheaval. Those companies are forming all over the place. People are leaving the cities which will become prisons without hope of escape, and gathering in solitary places in preparation. Physical preparation is good, but spiritual preparation is paramount. Never before has it been so important to "ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find, knock and the door shall be opened to you."

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Is 1:5 Why should ye be stricken anymore? ye will revolt more and more; the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. 1:6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises and putrifying sores; they have not been closed, neither bond up, neither mollified with ointment.

Matt 17:10 And his disciples asked him, saying Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
Matt 17:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come and restore all things.

What will be restored? Of course, it is soundness in the head, removing the wounds and bruises, and putrifiying sores. that have not been attended to by binding them up nor mollified with ointment--the same myhrr that the wise men gave to Jesus as a gift at His birth--perhaps even the same oil that was poured on His head to prepare for burial.

The word restore simply means to bring back health, to reverse the course and to come to a COMPLETION. This involves not only the person but also includes the HOUSEHOLD and the ORGANIZATION as well.

The natural course of healing is to bring that healing home and to the church. In this way, there will be MANY Elijahs all over the world. Thank God that this condition can be HEALED. This is happening NOW and HERE and some budding Elijahs are stepping out in very intuitive ways and proclaiming the TIME. Few here believe that just a man can accomplish this. It would seem that it takes a god to accomplish such high, holy purposes; but God has always worked through men who have all the same propensities for sin as any other man. How else can they know HOW to address an unsound mind and a faint heart. This is what the first fruits are all about. They will have the EXPERIENCE of overcoming sin through the blood of the Lamb.

Though ANGELS are seen as flying through the earth and giving messages, they always work through men and DO NOT coerce the mind of men. If anything, their presence dispels the darkness so that men may see their condition and take steps to correct it. When your conscience is seared and the realization is made that the mind is unsound, you can be CERTAIN that there is an angel near. We should take heart at that. The uncertainties that we have about ourselves need not be traumatic. They can be mighty blessings. We should be praying FOR this rather than trying to escape its uncomfortable consequences. Every power should be on the stretch concerning it--especially in light of the current madness in the world. The Kingdom of God will explode in the next few months. All of Heaven is astir and watching intently this mysterious time we live in--and the mystery of iniquity turning into the mystery of Godliness. It is foretold and it is HAPPENING.
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It seems like a new era has begun and it surprises me that the Holy Spirit is accomplishing so much in such little time. The enemy is trying to counter it as we speak. Even the antics of the enemy is totally under the control of the Father. The Lord created the light AND the darkness. "I the Lord do all these things". The Lord even will send evil spirits on certain occasions.

As I've said before, the Holy Spirit attends me and turns mountains into plains. On several occasions, however, the Holy Spirit in its fullness had no effect on hard hearts so I asked God to send an evil spirit. In one particular instance, there was a man on Facebook who continually called all manner of names against homosexuals and taught that they would burn in hell forever for their sin. It didn't matter that they could have been the result of abuse (sexual and otherwise), or a variety of other reasons. Having seen my own brothers get turned by Catholic priests, it is not a cut-and-dried situation nor would it be merciful of God to have them burn forever for psychological problems caused by abuse. In my estimation because of his hard heart, the Holy Spirit could not soften his heart nor recognize that God was merciful and would not burn finite creatures forever for as long as God exists. The only recourse was to pray for an evil spirit to make him aware that God was not happy with his mean spirit.

Within one day, he was asking other people to pray for him because he was under evil attack. All kinds of people responded and within two days he was back spewing his vitriol. Apparently, he had forgotten that I told him I would pray the Father for an evil spirit. When I reminded him of it and told him that I would pray the Father again and ask to give a DOUBLE PORTION so that he would realize that it was no fluke. That next day, he was no longer on Facebook nor anywhere else on the internet. He totally disappeared and I never saw him again nor any of his rhetoric. This, also, is part of the Kingdom of God--something that most do not even think about though there is a very prominent story of when He sent King Saul an evil spirit which led to his death after consulting the Witch of Endor. It is a drastic and graphic picture of what the result of resisting the Spirit of God can and will do. He will not strive forever with man. So, even when evil besets us, it is God who allows it. There are several here I would like to see God send an evil spirit to. There are some teaching cruel and evil things, calling good evil and evil good. Even these will have the opportunity to repent when they see the very things which they preach against--happening to their own lives. Before the end comes, you will ALL see the true and the false happening right in front of your eyes. God will lead you to your destination with either the Holy Spirit or an evil spirit. "I form the light and I create the darkness. I, the Lord, do all these things".

The Holy Spirit, right now, is circumventing all barriers as if they don't even exist. It's wonderful to watch and I am amazed to see how He does it--bypassing the rational mind and getting through by natural intuitive ways that bypass even the thought process. I really never thought that intuition would play such a large part in the last events. It is almost too late to reach spirituality through study and experiehce. WE are being inundated with evil processes and the mind easily distracted from spiritual things. The lust of the eyes and of the flesh are a huge part of it, of course, but unkind words, accusations, unforgivemess, and just plain cherished error also play a large part in determining our character. There are many open minds here and many wanting to know the truth--no matter how hard it cuts. We need to understand EVERYTHING about the kingdom of God and seek it as for a hidden treasure or the "pearl of great price." We ARE growing as a family--as crazy as that may sound here on GLP. The MOUNTAIN that separates us is being whittled away and God is removing the barriers. I get discouraged, but then He shows lots of encouraging things to make it all worthwhile. Iniquity abounds here and hearts grow cold because of it. It is difficult to overcome this, but certainly not impossible. Trust and believe God. He is in control and can FINISH IT IN YOU. It's not about doctrine (as important as that is), it's about CHARACTER. It's about Spirit. It's about love. It's about compassion and mercy. Even just before I started typing this, I was struggling with ANGER at some things being said with no thought of how it affects others. Mean, cruel, CUTTING THINGS. However, there is less and less desire for many to allow it anymore. I have heard it said somewhere that if and when a MAJORITY unite on the truth, the LATTER RAIN will fall in abundance and light us ALL on fire. Most of the Christian world is waiting for the Latter Rain. With all the evil that abounds, most cannot understand why it is not happening. It IS happening. It is happening even here.

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So according to you being a homo is ok because of this or that happened and practicing homos walk the streets of heaven.
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So according to you being a homo is ok because of this or that happened and practicing homos walk the streets of heaven.
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You kind of missed the whole point, showed where you stand with your labels, made insinuations and false assumptions; but it is a bit of a lead-in to another aspect of the Kingdom of God that eventually must be addressed.

As far as I can see from all I have seen and studied, every evil act, form of abuse, violent expression, sexual innuendo, unholy talk, cursing, blaspheming...are accompanied by some form of demon. Demons pass from person-to-person in this manner so victims get infected with demons that have nothing to do with their own behavior or propensities to do certain things. The demons of homosexuality of all forms are REMOVABLE by angelic presences who dispel their darkness and reduce or remove the demon's influences. I have seen transformations of such tortured individuals to heterosexual understanding. We ALL (no matter our demons that are tailored to us; have received the invitation to the wedding feast--and the same garment of righteousness is offered to all, regardless to station in life. The short answer is NO. No practicing ANYTHING will walk the streets of heaven. But all are capable of making that choice and some will be shocked to see MURDERERS, let alone "homos", walking the streets of gold and feeling perfectly at home in doing so.

I know a young family that was CURSED with a lesbian demon that was one of several that would go through a cycle of appearance. It was common to them to have several partners and openly speak of it. The entire situation was about as disfunctional and abusive (three children) as could be.

On the face of it, it looked a hopeless situation--doomed to anguish, heartache and insanity. There needed to be some kind of intervention, but who could address such things. We are just asked to step forth with what little WE HAVE, and HE will step forth with ALL THAT HE HAS, and make up the difference. To make a long and eventful story short, they were made aware of the demons, made aware that the Holy Spirit was near and available, made aware of alternatives to the lifestyle...and change brought about healing and freedom. On the face of it, they are still the same people, same background, same everything--but what cannot be seen is that they have been chosen to understand the process of healing and they will eventually see themselves on the sea of glass. There have been several I have seen (even skid-row types) who rose up to overcome the demons which possess them. There is an expression that goes "Once saved, always saved." In some people's eyes there is also the "Once lost, always lost." There is just as much danger in one as in the other.

To that group, just as every other that teaches evil to be good, the call is to "come out of her my people, that you receive not of her plagues." That is as applicable to an entire church, a company of believers, the occult, spiritualism, or even a system of belief that is contrary to the truth AS IT IS IN CHRIST.

Trashing this group of people can end up being a WORSE sin than having performed acts deemed by others as DEPRAVED--and they are. Demonic activity is the utmost of depravity. We are not helpless with this. Charity does wonders and helps assure us that those "ones" who have suffered much will have access to the tree of life. We have a merciful God...and He reads the fine print.
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I just spent the day in the midst of madness. Just picture this if you can. A young professedly Christian man screaming at his newly baptized Christian mother who was exposing his unchristian siding with a KNOWN whoremonger and violent man who literally grabbed her by the throat--and he didn't believe his mother. Even as I was standing in front of him trying to bring his Christian faith into play, he is actually SCREAMING Scripture at her--having no clue that his actions were demonic. This is the world we live in today. Scripture, for some, is only words to throw at others--but are unable to apply those same words to themselves. If you can picture it, WHOLE CHURCHES are going to go down this path.

It was only my presence and laying my hand upon him that brought him to his halfway to his senses so that he left--but not before leaving his mother in tatters and hopelessness. As many of you here know, God is shaking EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE SHAKEN. He is exposing the lies and the half-truths and the madness in the world. People would rather live with the madness they know than to find sanity. As a result of this situation, Satan is exulting in the destruction of many souls. At least 10 people are affected by this and they are ALL making the wrong decisions for life or for death. It is tragic to see the pain and suffering--and all for extremely stupid reasons. It is getting to the point that solid counsel has no effect anymore. When this happens all over (as it is now happening), God will withdraw His Spirit from the earth. That spirit He withdraws from those who will not listen or heed Godly counsel, will be doubled up upon those who have made it a habit to obey His counsel. It HAS TO BE MORE than just accepting and repeating the "sinner's prayer". If there is no decided change in the life (which only God can do) the sinner's prayer avails nothing--in fact, they are in GREATER DANGER by believing that they are "saved" and now can get revenge upon their enemies (of which there are many). "Revenge is mine saith the Lord." Even the Apostles exclaimed "This saying is very hard, who can be saved out of it." It is often taught that it is EASY to be saved and HARD to be lost. EVERYTHING MUST BE SACRIFICED to be saved EVERYTHING MUST BE OBEYED to prevent being lost. Repeating a few words mean nothing if you will not listen to His Voice and seek your own path. I still have hope for everyone involved, but the efforts of Satan is doubled and redoubled and we cannot look away for a moment. This is the most dangerous time in history, and few take notice of it.

None of us are immune from what is creeping steadily upon us. I had hoped that at the very least, the new President Trump would at least slow this tide down. That is not happening and the awful things that are foretold for the times we are in are fulfilling FAST--so fast that it will be an incredible shock. I am ENCOURAGED still for the ones here who are cognizant of the times we are in and are aware of good and evil--and call it by its right names. A cherished sin, no matter how small, can make your whole life a lie. The slave will lose his salvation just as readily as his slavemaster. So will the poor man be lost with the rich.

Unfortunately, when such things come close to home, they affect your own spirituality. I've pretty much spent the last two hours just getting it all out of my head--because it puts a negative slant on EVERYTHING. Just sitting here and typing it out gets it OFF ME. I hope I am not putting it on YOU. I just want to put the importance of the times on EVERYONE and to take it personally, because I am sure that many here RELATE to this kind of madness happening everywhere.

Satan is a genius and he may have just swept up 10-12 people in his net--PERHAPS by my sister exposing the truth, OR getting caught up in his lies. Only time will tell by where the hammer falls. We can't TEACH people how to pray or when to pray--but if there was ever a time to spend lots of time in prayer, it is NOW; but I doubt that cooler heads will prevail. Even at this moment, I can almost sense the vengeful actions being planned. I will have no part in it--deserved or not.
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The whole flat Earth/Sphere argument does not interest me at all--even though I have followed the thought and discussion about it. I have been as open-minded about it all as possible and can see many good points being made on every side. However, my own study of the basic structure of the Kingdom of God has produced entirely different conclusions.

On another forum dealing with time travel several years ago, we came up with entirely different conclusions that shocked us all. Among our group was a Jewish lady who was fluent in Hebrew, an aeronautical engineer working with space vehicles (and an expert in the 3x3 matrix of reality), and several others who were experts in their own fields of choice who added unique viewpoints on the subject at hand. The conclusion we all came up with after brainstorming was that the PRIMARY SHAPE of every object in space (including entire galaxies) was the TORUS. This also included the earth, moon, stars and a variety of other space objects.

The problems lie in PERCEPTION. Very few actually take the time to understand the BASICS--let alone the in-depth understanding of things we take for granted. For example, if we look at our Earth in geomagnetic terms instead of as a solid object (spherical OR flat) and follow the LINES of geomagnetism--it takes a toroid shape. Just as the COLORS of spatial objects in space are an illusion according to how we perceive them and portray them with our instruments, the shapes of the FORCES which surround them (invisible to our sight) are TOROID in appearance. When we take into consideration how our brains work when interpreting signals coming to it via our senses (rods and cones in the eye for example), our brain, ITSELF, arranges the signals in patterns which we can wrap our brains around. As amazing as our bodies and our senses are, they are severely limited in processing information which can take on many different shapes and forms.

Just as the fastest objects in space (light photons) can be shown to take a CURVED trajectory according to the mass of an object it is passing, (and totally fool our senses into thinking it is traveling in a straight line), many other similar influences fool us into thinking that the sky we look at is exactly how we see it or in the places that we see it. The ONLY way we can measure it is to capture the light, and that light may have gone through a whole SERIES of curved space before it ever gets to our instruments or our eyes. NOTHING may be as it appears--just as there are senses that we are not even aware of. An example of this is a young boy I had in my program. He had an INCREDIBLE defense mechanism that most of us would want nothing to do with. When he was in danger (as he often had been as an abused child) he could LITTERALLY bleed at will--from ears, nose, eyes; as much as a pint of blood at a time. No one even THOUGHT of hitting him when he did this. The poor kid was a basket case, but his survival instincts were amazing. Other kids had similar extreme survival "skills".

The universe and its inhabitants are far stranger than we can imagine. The toroidal shape is absolutely necessary to just navigate space. Just as someone here calls himself "swinging on spirals", we literally have to swing on spirals (the golden mean spiral) to navigate space. From the deep study of the Hebrew language, we determined that there is NO STRAIGHT LINE to any object in space. ALL space travel must be done in spirals--or more specifically, toroids. Unfortunately, science has not taken this into consideration as evidenced by their conclusion that a "wave" was headed towards us--instead of perceiving that this was a "river of space-time" and an actual pathway through space-time--just as we have jet streams above our planet and planes can take advantage of the differeing speeds of these jet streams and also how spacecraft take advantage of spin of planets to "slingshot" and increase speed to "escape velocity".

These "effects" are not just by-products of our universe. It was DESIGNED that way. Kudos to the flat earthers who have, at least, studied and made conclusions based on study. The same goes for the in-depth study of the round earth. There is massive information for all views--but there can only be ONE true view; and must contain ALL information--even the illusions. If we ever hope to navigate the stars, even the IMPOSSIBLE must be understood.

For those interested in the 3x3 matrix, Rainmantime has studied it in depth. As busy as he is as an engineering teacher, he is more than willing to share his information with all kinds of graphic representations. He can be Googled and that will take you to the site. I've been banned too many times by listing addresses.
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The rare "Obligata" is as follows:



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o oblige, from Latin obligare more at oblige

First Known Use: 1740
Other Music Terms
cacophony, chorister, concerto, counterpoint, madrigal, presto, presto, refrain, riff, segue

This is what we witnessed in the Vatican reception for Donald Trump. It was a funeral dirge. An Obligata shows the need to OBLIGE (perhaps by treaty or Concordat), but it also shows the need to be a COUNTERPOINT to that obliged--a MADRIGAL, if you will,--expressed by the entire noble class in extreme somber terms; encompassing all of Europe and beyond (where Popery holds sway).

It depends upon our point of view as to whether this is a good thing or a bad thing. At the very least, it would seem to be a reprieve giving the world more time to "preach the gospel of the kingdom"; and prevent for a time, at least, the "Image of the Beast" becoming fully set up and "fixing" the time.

It was the most solemn ceremony I have ever seen. Not a smile was to be seen by a single Knight. The Cardinals were the tour guides, the power elite were somber and silent, unhappy that their power was being questioned by "new money"--a slap in the face of their very old money.

This "war" is by no means over, nor are the combatants clearly defined yet--but they will be. Everything is being exposed if we have the eyes to see.
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A seemingly simple act by the First Lady of the U.S. changes the whole game. Just the act of asking the Pope to "bless" her rosary, means that she has given herself over to the beast and his "power to bless". As a new convert to Catholicism and her acceptance of the "system" means that she agrees with "confessing sins to man", man's power to "forgive sin" and the power of man(priests) to call God out of Heaven and to go into a "host" (the wafer) and to also "shed His blood" in the wine.

Donald Trump's "right hand" is now of the enemy. In many ways, the "funeral dirge" of the OBLIGATA signals the death of Christianity. That "DEATH" will be sealed later on with the "death of Protestantism" on the 500th anniversary of the Lutheran claim that the Vatican is, indeed, THE Antichrist. They worship a god that their fathers knew not (MARIANISM).

My hope for a golden age was DESTROYED with this one act. It is inconceivable that Donald Trump was not aware of this (nor of the relevance of the Obligata). He walked into this fully knowing the significance of what he was doing--as he is with everything else he is doing.

He is fully aware that his new choice for Supreme Court is Catholic (Jesuit trained) as is six others on the Court. His Vice-President is Jesuit trained. Much (if not most) of Congress is Jesuit trained. In a word, the Jesuits now control the government of the United States. It is obvious (to me at least), that the only reason for the Obligata is that Donald Trump has not given himself TOTALLY over to the antichrist. Once that step is taken (if it ever is) the Image to the Beast will become a formal act. I really believe that the only reason that Trump has NOT taken this step is his desire to even be above the Vatican (as well as Saudi Arabia, Protestantism or even democracy, itself.) The "three foul spirits like frogs" emerge from the Beast, the Image to the Beast and the False Prophet. The 'DUALITY' of the Beast and the Image is a counterfeit to the Father/Son and the SYSTEM by which the False Prophet exerts itself is SPIRITUALISM/PAGANISM which now rules most of the Protestant world and the Catholic world. False miracles and "gifts"(such as charismatic renewal, tongues speaking, healings, etc.) are now RAMPANT throughout the Catholic church and has LONG BEEN RAMPANT in the Protestant world.

The Vatican has a timetable and Trump is a thorn in his side in reaching this goal of a one-world religion. Everybody on the planet should be aware of the latest encyclical which sets actual DATES for the conversion of the world and the setting up of the Mark of the Beast crisis. The LANGUAGE of BOTH the Pope AND Trump speak of "extremists" and their stated goals of ridding the world of these extremists. Of course, Trump is speaking of "radical fundamentalists" (ISLAM) and the Pope is speaking of "Christian fundamentalists"--but the language is same and, in the end, will be identical. When that realization is made, it will be too late. The LAWS will then be IN FORCE. Judaism as the leading Sabbath keepers of the world, have no problem with keeping Sunday open as a rest day to combat "climate change". Neither does "rational Islam". The Protestant church has no problem either since they already reverence the day.

To a "consensual" president like Trump, it is only a rational step to get everyone on the same page "worshipping the same God", on the same day of the week and observing the "rational" rites and ceremonies of all such as the Eucharist/communion service. For most Protestants (which will no longer exist) ALREADY have periodic communion services, the natural next step would be to accept the eucharist which puts man above God by the CLAIM that Jesus's blood and body is in the service--when Jesus, Himself, told us to do EVERY TIME we eat or drink. This natural act at every mealtime for families has been turned into a BLASPHEMOUS ceremony--deserving of ETERNAL DEATH according to Scriptures.

The timeline is right before us. We don't have to wait for years or decades. It is ALL coming down THIS YEAR. We will not have to wait long to see confirmation of all of this. It is all being revealed and EXPOSED if we just keep our eyes open.

I have followed Trump from the beginning. I have watched every single video made on the campaign trail and LOVED most of it. I still have some hope that he will DELAY the outcome, but that hope grows dimmer each day. The sad fact is that it would take a UNIFIED PLANET to escape the things headed our way. THAT seems an impossibility now. It now appears that it will just be a "remnant". The battle lines are all being drawn now. As much as my "mind" tells me to hope for all, the SCRIPTURES tell us otherwise. What can we trust? Certainly not our mindsets. The Scripture is our ONLY safeguard--even if it directly challenges our mindset. We are currently in the "parenthetical prophecy" and as soon as that period ends, the seventh trumpet sounds and the ending events will quickly follow. We are possibly looking at the last year or two on planet Earth. I hope I'm wrong, but I now believe that my comments will now all be about last-day events and how they manifest themselves. Disasters and calamities are headed our way. Of THAT, the Bible is clear about. If this period is not cut short, "no flesh would be saved". We are ALL going to face these calamities. SOME of us will be more prepared than others--not necessarily physically, but spiritually for certain. I do not fear for the remnant. THEY are aware and preparing.
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