Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,953 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 764,540
Pageviews Today: 1,808,649Threads Today: 806Posts Today: 16,911
11:13 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2693352
Canada
11/23/2013 10:25 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
Clearly, this is a time when very little can be trusted. We cannot trust ourselves for the heart is desparately wicked. We cannot trust those around us. We cannot trust our own eyes, our mouths, our knowledge, our feelings or even our nature. As the Preacher tells us, "all is vanity." What then can we trust? Can we trust our leaders? Can we trust their writings? Can we trust ANY of the so-called scholars, religious leaders, political leaders, or any of the others who are desperately trying to do ANYTHING to wake up a sleeping world?

The answer is no. We cannot trust anybody--even ourselves. There is only one source, and that is the Word of God. I, like many of you, have used the word to enrich my life and give it meaning beyond anything that the world can offer. Unlike many, however, I was (and am) willing to risk my relationship with the world and use those principles that the Word convicted me of. Very few know the experience of living up to God's standards or even know what those standards are.
Few know the lonliness, degradation and shame of righteousness through faith in the God of the Bible. I didn't need the Bible to teach me the truth. God the Father taught me and His Word confirmed it. Many times, a truth of the Bible had no meaning until the maturity of life cleared up a mystery and fullfilled the joy that was incomplete.

So why do I say all these things? Because the time has come for the mysteries of the ages to be revealed. The culmination of all things is at hand. The Three Angel's Messages of Revelation 14 are about to sound throughout the world with a message so startling, that the foundations of the world's institutions will crumble. Institutions which have existed for millennia and cherished as unshakable will be exposeyd for all that they are: mere workings of the Mystery of Iniquity which will also be exposed. The great religions of the world will fall. Nothing can stand beside the truth. Though they may stand to the end, their death throes will appear long before their destruction. The events will be quick ones. Throughout all of time, events proceeding the publication of new truths has inevitably resulted in the downfall of all who refused to budge to the obvious truth--reluctant to relinquish the honors and privileges of the ruling body of knowledge, power, and wealth. The world will not survive the upheaval that will occur. Like the Great Deluge, God will provide an Ark for us to escape the destruction. What is this Ark? Here, my friends, is the story of the Second Ark. This story could not be told, were it not for a body of knowledge that has existed since creation that has been kept alive through the oracles given to Israel, handed down to the disciples, carried to mountain graves by the Waldensians, Hugenots and others willing to die for this knowledge of salvation, grace and Eternal LIfe. For the first time since God created the universe, the Kingdom of God will be preached in all the world--and then shall the end come.

The emphasis lately seems to be focussing mainly on two books--Daniel and Revelation--as they should be. We are admonished to do so and promised a blessing. We are also told that one unlocks the other to reveal vital knowledge of last-day events--which is also true. However, as they stand, these two books are like the last two books of a scientist's log of experiments. No one could duplicate the scientists feats without an understanding of the processes leading up to the final events. This, then, is the dilemma we are now faced with. Just when we think that all the knowledge pertaining to last day events have been scrutinized to the ulimate, a new element which was missed before, but was vital to our understanding, comes to light and changes our perceptions of what we considered the truth. Indeed, this new perception changes everything which we previously took for granted. The new element also has another very important role. It takes a position which was otherwise unshakable, shakes it to the marrow, and makes the new truth virtually unassailable from all directions. In other words, the new truth--simply because a process of change upholds and solidifies it--becomes even stronger in a new way. Examples of this have occurred in all the sciences throughout all the ages. We have now reached a point in our development where new light is very hard to come by. Advances in science are based primarily on truths fairly well established. Even in the relatively infant sciences such a Recombinant DNA technology, Laser and Maser technology, holography, computer sciences, etc.--most discoveries are based on knowledge and technology already present. The basic truths for these disciplines were discovered long ago.

This is also the point we have reached. The foundation of our understanding was established long ago, but it is still in the process of completion. Remember, the 144,000 are to become a part of the Temple and be pillars in it. This means that the mansions being prepared have a living connection to those they are being prepared for. But we are getting ahead of ourselves.

There is much to express in the pages ahead. This is why I will keep any debate to a minimum. I will also separate many postings so it is not so time consuming, both to myself and to those who may be reading this thread. I, myself, have a short attention span when it comes to long postings. I am not looking for response. I am not looking for confirmation. I will not be detracted by trolls and others who disagree. I do not need praise nor am I deterred by unbelief. I will simply post it and leave it to you all to disseminate. To be perfectly frank, I have a ministry on the streets that keeps me quite busy. I am in my 60's and know that my time is short. There is one thing that I know for certain. Whatever the walk of life of those who I come in contact with and however those people would be "judged" by others, they (without exception) want to know where they stand in the scheme of things. All have those who love them and those whom they love. Their lifestyles range from the depraved to the sublime, yet all have a desire to know the truth. Even the most depraved of them all would desire to know God if they could get beyond their own personal hatred of themselves. Even the deepest, darkest sinners and those filled with violence have an innate desire to be free of their "demons". I have seen many of these "untouchables" and "unlovables" become champions (in their own ways) of truth, love, and life. For this reason, I hope many of you can look beyond your own biases and give this and the pages to follow, a thorough and open-minded study.
 Quoting: Zerubbabel


My Lord Jesus of Nazareth srtengthens me in him I trust and by his stripes we are healed
holyspiritwind

User ID: 72329803
United States
06/04/2016 11:00 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
bump

Last Edited by HolySpiritWind on 06/11/2016 02:43 PM
When the name of Jesus is spoken OUT LOUD, the Holy Spirit is released into the spiritual atmosphere, light and life are released and darkness and death FLEE!

Love and Peace
HolySpiritWind
Daddysgirl

User ID: 69601022
United States
06/04/2016 12:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
I really do love your writings...it's just that they are so hard to comprehend due to complex words and run on paragraphs....

I wish I could understand them....I know you are teaching truth!

fivestarone
holyspiritwind

User ID: 72370543
United States
06/11/2016 02:43 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
hf
When the name of Jesus is spoken OUT LOUD, the Holy Spirit is released into the spiritual atmosphere, light and life are released and darkness and death FLEE!

Love and Peace
HolySpiritWind
holyspiritwind

User ID: 72401368
United States
06/18/2016 11:38 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
hf
 Quoting: holyspiritwind


red_heart
When the name of Jesus is spoken OUT LOUD, the Holy Spirit is released into the spiritual atmosphere, light and life are released and darkness and death FLEE!

Love and Peace
HolySpiritWind
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 73061506
United States
09/25/2016 08:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
I am repeating here what I posted on page one.

"There is much to express in the pages ahead. This is why I will keep any debate to a minimum. I will also separate many postings so it is not so time consuming, both to myself and to those who may be reading this thread. I, myself, have a short attention span when it comes to long postings. I am not looking for response. I am not looking for confirmation. I will not be detracted by trolls and others who disagree. I do not need praise nor am I deterred by unbelief. I will simply post it and leave it to you all to disseminate. To be perfectly frank, I have a ministry on the streets that keeps me quite busy. I am in my 60's and know that my time is short. There is one thing that I know for certain. Whatever the walk of life of those who I come in contact with and however those people would be "judged" by others, they (without exception) want to know where they stand in the scheme of things. All have those who love them and those whom they love. Their lifestyles range from the depraved to the sublime, yet all have a desire to know the truth. Even the most depraved of them all would desire to know God if they could get beyond their own personal hatred of themselves. Even the deepest, darkest sinners and those filled with violence have an innate desire to be free of their "demons". I have seen many of these "untouchables" and "unlovables" become champions (in their own ways) of truth, love, and life. For this reason, I hope many of you can look beyond your own biases and give this and the pages to follow, a thorough and open-minded study."

Much of what I am about to share has already been shared to some degree in various places and sometimes as an AC--sometimes even as a proxy. I may repeat myself since I am real-time and not "quoting" from things I have posted before. Please do not be offended if I do not respond to some things. I wish I could just get into the meat of things and state clearly and concisely what it is that I am trying to convey. To be perfectly honest, I do not have all this information down pat. It is all in my head, but I need to determine how truth will follow truth. I think you will understand, to some degree, what constraints (and restraints) I am under. There needs to be some understanding as to HOW I came to this point in time. With that said, I will begin:
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 73061506
United States
09/25/2016 08:21 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
More than 50 years ago, I could be described as HUMANISTIC. I believed in a higher power because of certain experiences in my childhood (such as the dream at 4 years old). However, I had NO belief in "minor gods" such as what Jesus represented to me. Because of my experiences in the Catholic church as a child, seeing the result of two brothers being molested, and a variety of other things, I had NO BELIEF whatsoever in Christianity. I became HOSTILE to anyone trying to talk to me about RELIGION.

Because of my belief in a higher power, I began a life-long search for who (and what) it was. I have literally studied every religion seeking for that higher power. I could not find Him/IT ANYWHERE. I exhausted every material in the libraries, read entire encyclopedias, and asked as many questions of others as I could.

I could write a great deal as to how I eventually came to an understanding of the truth (as I Knew it at the time). Suffice it to say at this time, that when I finally discovered (to my own understanding at least) that Jesus WAS the ACTUAL higher power I was looking for. I was in deep shock because of this. For the first time, I KNEW what was required of me. A deep feeling of hopelessness came over me. I knew that I could never become what was required of me. Even in spite of the FACT in my mind that I was LOST and would never be able to become what was required, I also knew that I could never deny HIM to anyone else that I ever came into contact with. I also knew that there was NOTHING I could do to ever earn "life eternal". I was resigned to becoming a "Christian" without ever being able to say that I had "attained".

It took seven years of my life to realize that all that was preventing me from becoming a true Christian--had been REMOVED from my life without any input of my own--other than "preaching the gospel" to those who still had hope.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 73061506
United States
09/25/2016 08:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
It is at this point of realization that the story really begins. I need to tell this part of the story, because this is the REASON why I ever decided to give a warning in the first place.

When I graduated college in 1971 (seven years long in the doing) I had gone from becoming an Accountant with dreams of riches (I was very good at it), to becoming a teacher and working with others. That year there were layoffs in the industry all over the country. I decided to take a lesser position in a "reform school" as a counselor. Now I was in a real quandary. How could I teach of Jesus in a setting such as this. The short answer is, of course, that I could not. BUT, I was determined to carry through with it somehow. I decided to LIVE AND TEACH the truth in this environment. I was successful in ways I never imagined.

Eventually, I landed a job running a "half-way house" for juveniles. I did not seek it, it was presented to me just as MANY other things have been presented to me down the years. I was to use "Positive Peer Culture", "Reality Therapy", "Guided Group Interaction" and "Interpersonal Process Recall" in my counseling sessions with 17 juvenile boys. I manipulated the terminology so that I could teach all these things--and teach the plain truth of the Bible without their ever knowing that I was teaching spiritual things.

The result was amazing. Every single kid that came through my "program" was reconciled with family relationships, learned to get along with others, and eventually returned to their homes--never to be heard from again. This was unheard of. A Crime Commission study was done on us and they concluded that I had the best program in the country. This was very "unsettling" to the top brass in the institution. They were losing heads fast--and along with them, funding for the institution. In a nutshell, they shut down the program in spite of its success. They then took me and placed me back in the institution to work with hard-core criminal juveniles. The same thing happened with them, but I had no control over their incarceration. I decided to leave and return to Maine. That is where the story really begins to take off.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 73061506
United States
09/25/2016 09:02 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
After returning to Maine, I got another job in a half-way house (I had all kinds of references). Here is where all kinds of unnatural things began to emerge. First, the half-way house was a total joke.

There was no "treatment" going on in spite of the fact that there were disfunctional kids that were not being helped. During this period, I had gone to Boston to meet with other "contemporaries" in the field. I was absolutely amazed at their attitude and hostility towards any real treatment going on anywhere in the Northeast. They believed that I was one of them (long hair and beard) and openly bragged about their manipulation of Senator Brooke's office and Senator Kennedy's office to gain IMMENSE FUNDS for the running of a variety of programs throughout the Northeast--including Mental Institutions (when they still existed), alternative schools, homes for troubled kids, etc. There was not ONE person there who actually cared at all about the safety of children. It was ALL about money and power.

Shortly after discovering this madness at the center of our most trusted organizations, I was invited to a group seminar at a Posh resort on the coast of Maine that went over two days on "Treatment of Adolescents". During the day, all was as it seemed to be--concerned professionals who were seeking to help troubled kids. After the days events were over and it became a social event (drinking, partying, dancing, and whatever else). ALL these professionals were mixing and matching with each other--and anything went. Some got loudly drunk and cursed God and laughed at how they had fooled the entire world into thinking that they were actually doing anything for these kids. I had several women trying to get me into compromising situations. Under the greatest temptations, I managed to slip quietly out and go to my room. The next day, after all the meetings, the Director of my agency laughed at me and stated that if it had been HER doing the tempting, she would have won. Needless to say, within days, I was no longer working for the agency and was BARRED from ever working with kids on any level ever again.

I researched this deeply and on many levels. What I discovered was a PURPOSEFUL entity that was under deep cover within ALL government operations that were DEDICATED to destroying families. It was at this time that I felt the need to give a warning as to what was happening with our kids.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 73061506
United States
09/25/2016 09:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
I knew of no place to turn to. I trusted no one. I now knew that I was on the list and that I would never again be able to professionally work with kids.

While I was working in New Hampshire at the institution, I would allow one person to come in on the weekend to spend time with the kids and just talk. He was a Seventh Day Adventist, but I had no idea what a SDA was. Had I known that many consider them a cult, I probably would not have allowed it. As things turned out, he gave me a book called "Patriarchs and Prophets" as he was leaving (I never saw him again because I was put in charge of the half-way house). Over time, I read the book and when I returned to Maine, I saw that the prophecies written in that book were being played out right in front of me. I decided that I had to take the warning to the local SDA church to tell them that their prophecies were coming true.

What I saw and experienced changed everything. Nothing has been the same since. It was the end of one era, and the beginning of another more powerful era--full of exploits, deeds and MIRACLES. No one but my wife and I saw and experienced the most amazing things. I will try my best to paint the picture we were living at the moment. No one at the time could explain what we saw. It has literally taken 40 years to put the entire puzzle together. It is still in the process. What follows is what happened.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 65987384
United States
09/25/2016 09:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
go get laid you mildly mental retard. any time my head wants me to write pages of bullshit it means i need laid and he is punishing me. a woman will fix you
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 73061506
United States
09/25/2016 09:46 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
My wife and I walked into the little picturesque church set in a small community in Maine. It was odd to say the least. Firstly, it was SATURDAY. I had never been in a church on a Saturday and it just seemed strange. It looked no different than any other church, had song service, Bible readings, etc.

As paranoid as I was, I was watching the line of people sitting on the podium with a skeptical eye. I studied each person and my eyes fell on a strangely hard-looking man who seemed Slavic in his nationality. As it turned out, he was German and even was a part of the Hitler youth as a child.

After all the normal events leading up to the sermon, this man got up to give the sermon. There was nothing remarkable about his sermon or his demeanor. He was reading from his notes when he suddenly stopped mid-sentence and turned away from his notes. In that moment, his eyes (which were a dark brown), turned a brilliant blue as if an angel stepped into him. At the same moment, a BALL OF FIRE appeared right in front of the podium and WAVE AFTER WAVE of a Holiness passed through my wife and I and we were filled beyond measure with powerful waves of Holy Spirit that quickened our understanding and opened our spiritual eyes. What I could NOT see, was that my wife was holding on to the pew as though her life depended upon it. What SHE saw was the roof disappear and a cloud appear in its place. In the cloud was a MOUTH speaking pure light towards the speaker on the podium, and pure light would than come to us in wave after wonderful wave.

Although I cannot bring to mind MANY of the things that this man spoke, he spoke with such power and HAPPINESS that it was just unimaginable. What he was HAPPY about (the angel in him-not the man) was that WE were there. He then told the congregation that SOMEONE WAS COMING that was not of their fold and that they had the most amazing message that man has ever heard. We were filled with such joy that it cannot be expressed. What was most amazing to me was that this was a TOTAL CONFIRMATION to me that I was on the right path and doing the right things. Later, I was to come to an understanding that the angel in this man was really Jesus, Himself--and that He was pleading His blood FOR ME. For the first time in my life (especially since conversion),I realized that I was FORGIVEN and ACCEPTED OF GOD. Never again will I ever doubt that. The Father/Creator of Heaven and Earth, His Holy Son Jesus and the Holy Spirit all graced us that day--and every day since. My wife had ALWAYS had gifts that I could not understand. She actually prophesied of our future several times and they all came true. I did not have this gift until after this experience (along with some others). That very day, I signed up to be trained in the "Literature Ministry", and eventual became a "Credentialed Literature Evangelist". When we got home and were relating these experiences, inexplicable things began to happen every day. We were both having visions and I can't even relate to you how THAT affected our lives.

Here we are 40 years later. He has shown us many things and some of them are hard to understand. Almost NO ONE that I have ever met down the years, can understand or even WANT to understand. I have been LITERALLY wandering in the wilderness of Adventism for these last 40 years.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 73061506
United States
09/25/2016 10:25 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
Of course, I had to read everything that Adventism had to offer. It was somewhat of a nightmare at first. I "found" a mountain of "errors". If I had NOT had THE experience, I would have given up a LONG time ago. I persevered. I TRIED giving the warning about the children, but it fell on deaf ears. I tried telling them of the visitation, but no one believed. I found within the writings of Adventism, itself, that my experience was PROPHESIED. Since then, I have discovered that almost EVERYTHING that we take for granted in the Scriptures is almost completely wrong. Many Christians are not going to be happy without their "talking points". This goes for SDA's as well as everyone else. When it comes to all this stuff, we are ALL on the first page.

At the very CENTER of Adventist theology is the study of the Old Testament Sanctuary service. The church, itself, took the longest time prophecy of the Bible (2300 day/years) and made it their own foundation. The BEGINNING of this time prophecy tells of the time when the FOUNDATION of the Temple was to be built, and the ENDING of this prophecy tels of when this temple is to be CLEANSED. It is common knowledge (even written in the margins of the Bible), that this prophecy began in 357BC. I don't intend to get into the dates. They are all well established by many scholars. At the end of this 2300 year period, it was believed that the EARTH was to be cleansed (its people) and thus, the end of the world. When that end didn't come as prophesied, the entire movement fell apart. and only a few remained to study out the error. They "found" it and now believed that the temple that was to be "cleansed" was the Heavenly one in which Jesus ministers to the Saints. It was believed that Jesus left the "Holy Place" of the Sanctuary and moved to the "Most Holy Place"--thus to begin judgement of the living.

However, there is another explanation altogether. What Strong's Concordance says about this is revealing. The so-called "cleansing" has NOTHING to do with with what the Old Testament called cleansing, which was a practice used when the temple was "abominated". THIS cleansing had to do with a FORENSIC study of the Temple, itself. In other words, since the days of the Old Testament, the PURPOSE was lost to antiquity. The "cleansing" was designed to put the study of the temple back on the "front burner" to ascertain its reason, practice and purpose. For those who have read about Ezekiel's description, it is obvious that there is far more "in there" than meets the eye. In fact, it is the tip of the iceberg.

Obviously, as a Seventh Day Adventist, I worship on Saturday the Sabbath. Even this basic belief by Adventists has a depth that has not even been touched upon by man. There are many mysteries, but if we understand that God gives us mysteries to command our faith, then it is not a BURDEN but a BLESSING to get into these difficult subjects. It is NOT just about a holy day. It is NOT just about how and why it is holy. It is really about how its HOLINESS has a part in our ability to accomplish certain things. There is no doubt that "Sunday holiness" can accomplish some things. This is NOT about the purpose and reason of each in spiritual things. This is really about the purpose and reason in PHYSICAL things. This will not become apparent until we get into the meat of it. Eventually, it will be seen as the ONLY path forward. Just as science has its "sacred" truths, the sacred truths of the Scriptures are as "sacred" as E=MC2.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 73061506
United States
09/25/2016 11:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
Many, many years ago, a group of SDA's high up in the organization, decided (once and for all) that they were going to bring ALL knowledge (including science and astronomy)to the table to come to a CONCLUSION as to the time frames involved in the PASSION WEEK. They were seeking to "nail down" the particulars involved in the crucifixion of Christ. They hired an expert who then went to astronomy to determine the dates. Since the Jewish "economy" was based on LUNAR event, it was possible to trace back to the times of Christ and find the exact time when the Feast of Unleavened Bread began and ended.

However, they found themselves in a quandary. Because they could not change what was to them "set in stone", they came to a conclusion that they were not looking for and were somewhat embarrased by. Rather than publish their findings, they decided to bury the issue for lack of a way to come to conclusions. If they had put aside their differences (there were enemies in this group), they could have made a wonderful discovery that would have opened all their eyes. Nothing changed and nothing was ventured.

This is not to lay blame on those who sought to know the truth. The same mistakes have been made down the centuries and the mistakes are just as readily received even now. A simple understanding would have changed everything. As a result, everything changed--for the worse. One of those members went on to challenge our most basic beliefs and succeeded at watering down our message so that we would become more "mainstream" and acceptable. Up to this point, we were on many lists as a cult. The SDA church (at least on the surface) is now a welcome member (although a bit strange and peculiar) of the Christian community. That mainline SDA church is now joining hands with many other churches to embrace Catholicism at the highest levels and proclaim the "protestant movement" as dead. The 500th anniversary of Luther placing his 95 theses on the church door has reached a point of ecumenism never before seen in history. History is being rewritten as we watch gleefully.

Tomorrow, I will post what mistakes were missed and how it can be reconciled with the truth. Once laid out, step by step, it will become more obvious that there is a "cleansing" of our understanding that needs to happen. While there may be some residual understanding as to what and how we must prepare for what is approaching, this is not my primary interest. My approach is really "wholistic". It's not just about the spirit. It's about the mind, heart and body as well. It's not just about living forever. It's about having ABUNDANT life--here and now. It's about ASSURANCE--the kind of assurance that I received when I was VISITED by God. It's about KNOWING which removes doubt. I know that there are PRACTICAL applications.

I am just getting started. I have lots of work to do. Much of it is very technical, but I will try to make it understandable. Hopefully, some of those buried things will re-emerge. Hopefully also, there will be some meaningful dialogue in the future. For now, I am just trying to put my thoughts together to best present what I am trying to convey. It may take months. It may not take much time at all. I simply do not know at this point. It may become pointless, or a moot point. I have to try. Time will tell.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
TheLordsServant

User ID: 73137347
United States
10/07/2016 11:25 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
bump
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 73601530
United States
03/04/2017 05:24 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
hf
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 70124711
United States
03/05/2017 10:27 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
For the OP

Matthew 15:22
And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8084496
Denmark
03/05/2017 10:37 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
The more you type about a topic, the less you understand about it.

See if you understood this topic, you'd just Reveal the Mystery of the Kingdom of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 379118


thumbs

Less is more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 304696
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 62067081
United States
04/27/2017 12:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
I have sat at this page many times, considering the next steps that must be taken. At the center of it all are basic concepts that are not easy to convey. It's all about TIME.

In the Adventist church, this became an issue with one of our major writers back in the 1800's. In his book entitled, "Thoughts on Daniel and the Revelation", he attempted to address the prophecies that dealt with time being "no more". It was concerning the "finishing of God's work", and he realized that this was an extremely important issue--perhaps the most important issue of all. He questioned what could possibly happen that would end this period of "time no more".

He quickly realized that the issues would arise during a "parenthetical prophecy" that occurs between Revelation 10:1 and Revelation 11:15. The END of chapter 9 ended with the sounding of the sixth trumpet. Verse 11:15 recounts the beginning of the seventh trumpet and the "time" that God would finish the "mystery". He could not come to a final conclusion on the matter, but he said "It is no uncalled for solicitude for what is meant by the "finishing of God's work". He rightfully concluded that this was of utmost importance for us to understand if we were to understand the parenthetical prophecy and, therefore, be prepared for all that was to follow. With his admittedly scant knowledge of the subject, he made a few basic conclusions.

The first conclusion he came to was that this could NOT mean the end of time, itself; because there were further events to occur AFTER the parenthetical prophecy. With his limited understanding, he concluded that it could only mean the end of PROPHETIC TIME. He never perceived that there was a third alternative--an understanding of time, itself. Only in recent times have we even considered that we could actually discover the attributes of time--even to the "discovery" and actual laboratory creation of a "crystal of time." To be honest, I have a hard time to wrap my mind around this--but it is totally appropriate considering the makeup of the Heavenly Temple and the mystery of the Kingdom of God, itself.

When researching these "attributes", I found what appeared to be a "conspiracy" that appears in many writings by many different people. It was inexplicable to me why anyone would CHANGE the wording of concepts that were readily accepted throughout the world for a very long time. That "mystery" demanded that I look into it more deeply. I was not prepared for what I would find. It altered my thinking and opened up a whole new world to me. I will touch upon it in my next posting so as to not make THIS posting too long of a read.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 62067081
United States
04/27/2017 01:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
Now, the once commonly used terms when describing God are: He is Omnipotent (all powerful), Omniscient (all knowing) and by many He is Eternal. Of course, the term which was USUALLY applied for this third attribute is that He is Omnipresent (present in all places and in all times). The terms Eternal and Omnipresent have meanings which are world's apart.

Being "Eternal" is a word that has been used to help us wrap our minds around something that is difficult to conceive--eternity. We can SOMEWHAT understand all knowing, and all powerful--but Omnipresence boggles the imagination. Only in recent discussions about the attributes of Black Holes (unheard of back in the day) has there been the possibility of being stretched to infinity (the spaghetti effect) and simultaneously being crunched to an infinite point. Even with all the Math involved, it is still difficult to perceive this with any degree of precision. Even this concept has been challenged recently with the discovery of an "object" emerging from a massive black hole (which we just happened to be "watching" at the time.) It is NOT coincidence that we are now training radio telescopes all over the world towards our own black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy.

The MAJOR difference between these two terms is one is looked at from a HUMAN point of view. To see God as Eternal means that He is COGNIZANT of both extremes and KNOWS the end from the beginning. To be Omnipresent means that He is THERE at both ends--and everywhere in between. God is not constrained by time. He created it. So, one of the natural conclusions we can make on this is that God does not have to WAIT upon anything--the MOMENT of Creation is no different to HIM than the ever-present moments of Him enjoying HIS Heavenly Kingdom, NOW. WE are in the long wait for the "number" to be made up of His Saints. God waits for nothing.

Now that we can make SOME conclusions based on this, we can make further deductions as to the "properties" of the Kingdom of God. Some very important "mysteries" can be solved such as when was Jesus BEGOTTEN. The Scriptures tell us that He was begotten from the foundation of the world. They also tell us that He was begotten of Mary. Was He begotten twice? Is one metaphor or analogy and the other literal? Can we resolve this paradox? It is EASILY resolved if we consider that this was all the same moment with God. As a matter of fact, every other major event in the life of Christ can be seen in the same light. There were SEVEN major events in the life of Christ. These are the Seven Thunders mentioned in Scripture. Each one of these "events" were proclamations of God (which is what Strong's Concordance calls as divine proclamations)--each one proclaiming that Jesus was (and IS) the Son of God. These seven "thunders" were the Incarnation, the Birth, the Baptism, the Transfiguration, the Crucifixion, the Resurrection and the Ascension. These seven events were woven into the very fabric of the Creation. It is not difficult (and is often said) to perceive the life of Christ at the very center of Creation as a METAPHOR. This makes it a LITERAL EVENT.

In recent times, it is becoming APPARENT by many scientists that it took INTELLIGENCE and DIVINITY to create such a life-favoring universe as the one we live in. The more they discover, the more they unknowingly uphold the Scripture definition of Creation. Cern has been hard at it to actually interact with what they perceive as 11 dimensions of space/time/matter. This is TOTALLY in line with Scripture. First there was SINGULARITY with the totally unknowable Jehovah. With the begetting of the Son, there became DUALITY--and in the same moment came the 3x3 matrix of which many are familiar. These correspond with the 9 "fruits" of the Spirit which are not only SPIRITUAL ATTRIBUTES, they also have varying PHYSICAL attributes--manifesting the communication, or WORK that science so aply uses to describe the interaction between things.

A scientist once said (Murray Gell-Mann I believe) that they do not perceive GOD (a metaphor in his mind) as twiddling twenty knobs and vials to maintain this universe. They perceive it as MUCH simpler and "beautiful". Beauty in their eyes, of course, is in scientific simplicity. They are forever seeking to make everything SIMPLE to its lowest common denominator. Of course, they cannot even conceive of the idea that it is LITERALLY the ministry of the Son to the Father which holds everything together (and even defines gravity)

Now that I've opened THAT box, it really prepares the way to defining everything else about the Kingdom of God. "Eye has not seen, nor ears heard of the things prepared from the foundation of the world." In the pages that follow, I will try to delineate the consequences and meanings of what we have just scratched the surface of.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 5177342
United States
04/27/2017 04:56 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
There are mysteries beyond yours that have been re-revealed to me. I will be back in character later. Some will know me here.

fish
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 73360297
United States
04/27/2017 05:09 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
One of the earliest intimations I had of a "process" that occurs within the Old Testament Temple structure was from a video that was put out by Timothy Ferris quite a few years ago. Having grown up as a Catholic, I always wondered why steeples were so prominent in church buildings--especially Catholic cathedrals. Timothy Ferris tied together several reasons for it, even tying together its representation within the CERN complex. It was more than a symbolic gesture. It held connotations of an upward sweeping spiritual experience and an expansiveness that defied rational explanation. It testified of something that could not be seen nor experienced, but deep in our souls it RESONATED with something that was beyond us. Even then, the understanding of what was being conveyed did not hit me until I began putting together the structure of the Temple.

I have never seen an actual ACCURATE depiction of the temple. It came as a great surprise to me that the cubit-by-cubit representation of it in Ezekiel showed a "steeple" that was 120 cubits in height. It was nearly three times the height of the building, itself. The People's Bible Encyclopedia explained that it was "the perfect ideal of a Shemitic Temple", but it could never be built in actuality. I came to understand this in time. There were "anomalies" in there that could not be reconciled with traditional construction. I became frustrated with my own inability to understand why. Quite some time passed before I realized that it had nothing to do with the building, itself. It was all about what was contained WITHIN and the purposes of those "artifacts". Believe me when I say that I could talk for HOURS about what the "traditional" understanding was all about. The SDA church's teachings have the Sanctuary at the very center of their teachings and can relate almost every single aspect of Christ's life within the "Jewish economy" that was was indicative of the daily, weekly and yearly services. In other words, the "goings in and the goings out, the forms and the laws thereof" were ENTIRELY about spiritual things and steps in the lives of its people.

However, we as a church had taken it no further in spite of all the other things in there that were not discussed by ANYBODY and were a total mystery to me. I love mysteries. I jumped in with both feet and was not prepared for what I found. I was boggled by it. I still am to some degree. Even my closest Christian friends cannot see the value of what it represents. If it doesn't have the traditional understanding of the different aspects of a Christian lifestyle, it had no meaning for them--and even DETRACTED from their own spiritual understanding. In short, they dismissed it out of hand--just like most do here. They would rather not hear about it at all. It reeked of deep science--a deeper science than they were willing to even discuss, let alone STUDY. To make the current attempt even more difficult, my I7 computer crashed, wiping my hard drive with all my data. I had hoped to show a physical representation, but now that is impossible for the present time. I am now limited to trying to get it understood by PERCEPTION ALONE. A picture, they say, is worth a thousand words. I'm currently stuck with the 1000 words. So be it. It may even order my thoughts. I may just end up talking to myself, but I am CONSTRAINED by some current "intimations" of final events and a deep feeling of time running out.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 73360297
United States
04/28/2017 01:56 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
Contemplating the 11-fold nature of the Godhead at the center of Creation, we can visualize, to a certain degree, a representation of quantum entanglement--a term qualified in the Scriptures as TAMID, a perpetual sacrifice, offering, revealing, expressing of divine grace and mercy. I once met an elderly man in my youth who had studied it for 50 years and had STILL NOT PLUMBED ITS DEPTHS.

The DEPTH of entanglement is boggling and explains every possible SUPER NATURAL expression imaginable--even to the edges of time/space/matter. To understand the matrix and its construction is to begin to learn how to manipulate it. No unholy manipulation is possible. The 144,000 will enter this REALITY--and nevermore go out again. It is through them (by virtue of the work they accomplish within the Heavenly Sanctuary), that the multitudes will come to a complete knowledge of Salvation--a number already determined but unable to be numbered. To a very real degree, (if you use a little bit of imagination) there are 12 gates made of crystals that access navigation controls to points in space/time at unimaginable distances. As I've discussed before, the Scriptures show the star maps of every constellation known to man.

I have contemplated hard upon what use this information is to our well being. It's a matter of perception. "By beholding, we become changed." Picture, for a moment, the shape of a cathedral--but THIS "cathedral" is part of a much larger structure. Although the Scriptures clearly show spaces between it and the surrounding structures, the Scriptures also tell us to "leave out" the courts that have been "trodden by the gentiles). Now the temple is all of one piece, but there is still one more step. The "wisdom of the Lord is DOUBLE to that which IS. A mirror copy of itself completes the enclosed structure--encased in 12 foundational stones referred to as the stones of fire--perfectly designed to withstand and absorb every wavelength of light possible while traveling down the vortex of black holes. How this is accomplished (and circumnavigating around the limitations of relatavistic speeds) is defined in the Scriptures in the discussion of the "measureing rod, the plummet and the line of flax. An in-depth study and understanding of this may actually trigger end-time events as prophesied. Time, as they say, will tell.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 73360297
United States
04/28/2017 11:04 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
It is relatively well known that the Golden Mean Spiral can be seen throughout the Old Testament Sanctuary--from the innermost Most Holy Place, through the ten "words" placed on the garnet stone of which the ten commandments were placed "through the Threshold and the sequence of crystals on the Breastplate of the High Priest--and then upward through the "steeple", gathering power to access dimensional "doors" which make it possible to escape paradoxes when manipulating time and space.

The "words" on the garnet stone and the crystals on the Breastplate pulsate in a defined sequence which creates a vortex that grows ever smaller in relation to the crystalline structure of the stones. The placement of the stones is determined by the "mothers" of all the tribes represented on the Breastplate. As mentioned before, the crystalline structure of each stone is determined by the "family" it represents and has a definite order from largest to smallest, steering the light to ever smaller dimensions to the point of entering quantum space.

This "vortex" is what has been preventing the National Ignition Facility from being able to "contain" the fusion process and the energy which it produces. Both CERN and the NIF are attempting to CONTAIN the entire process by DESTRUCTION--thus the reason that CERN is represented by Shiva the Destroyer. When done CORRECTLY, there is no need for destruction--only an AVENUE through which the energy can be channeled to achieve the desired results (space/time travel) or endless energy. The NIF is getting better at containing the power, but they will never be truly able to control the massive energy until they channel it through the vortex paradigm.

Each chamber in the Temple structure has ruby crystals (all pointing INWARD towards the Ark of the Covenant and channeling the laser light to pass through the ark). These are the "narrow lights" which face each other--each a cubit square. Doors a cubit square connect all the chambers round about the the Most Holy Place and are connected all throughout the structure--all the way to the outer walls. There are HUNDREDS of chambers, each with their windows and doors--all pointing inexplicably INWARD.

The cubit, itself, is an inexplicable method of measure. Because of its method of measure, it is highly connected to the individual rather than a standard unit of measure. The measure from elbow to tip of finger and the span of the hand is highly specialized to the person doing the measure. It was only much later in history that it became "standardized" to about 18 inches.

It is not just coincidence that the Temple bears a strong resemblence to the NIF facility in California--even to the sizes of the ruby lasers which are roughly the size of a cubit each. They are aligned much the same way that they are aligned within the Temple structure. There are amazing "coincidences" in both structures which would imply a scientific placement demanded by the laws involved in dealing with this kind of power structure. One thing is certain. The TECHNOLOGY which is necessary to access space/time is available to us NOW. We are not looking decades or centuries in the future to develop the high tech necessary to travel at multiples of lightspeed. It is almost within reach NOW. Just as they discovered the mysterious forces that would enable trips to Mars in weeks rather than months (they still cannot figure out how it works), they will also find the means to penetrate time/space using the same inexplicable forces.

There is much, much more "in there". The question of WHY begs for answers. Why does the Scriptures even "go there"? Why is the Torah made up of a very specific number of letters that cannot be off by even one letter? Just ONE wrong letter and it has to be destroyed and buried--even if it took YEARS by hand to write it out. For thousands of years, METICULOUS care has been taken to represent it EXACTLY as it was given--handed down for endless generations through rite and rituals so that not one aspect of it be lost. It is almost as if a COPY of high tech has been handed down to us to use at the appropriate time (just before massive destruction is headed our way). At the very least, we are being shown things about how the Kingdom of god operates and how entities are able to travel from one end of the universe to another.

Whether we as a species are capable of utilizing this high tech, the whole concept of "righteousness" is interwoven within it. It is not just happenstance that a "robe of righteousness" (the same light garment that Adam and Eve wore before sin took it away and made them "naked") is necessary for the transit from Earth to Heaven. This is a whole subject for another time.

Last Edited by Zerubbabel on 04/29/2017 09:52 AM
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2506111
United States
04/28/2017 11:07 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
So what's your point?
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 73360297
United States
04/29/2017 06:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
At the center of Adventist theology (aside from the Sanctuary Services of the Old Testament) is the messages contained within the Three Angels of Revelation 14 and the angels that follow these three.

Another very important part of Adventist theology is what is called Righteousness by Faith. After all is said and done, the message of Righteousness by Faith has been called: "The three angels message, IN VERITY. In today's Adventist world, though they can talk endlessly about these prophetic messages, very few even have a cursory understanding of it in their lives. If it did, we would be in the middle of last-day events and proclaiming these truths all over the world IN POWER. Sadly, they are in CRISIS because all the events foretold for which they have been diligently seeking--are happening all around them and they are NOT fulfilling the prophecies which they are so fond of telling everybody about. The bottom line is that they are WAITING for Latter-rain POWER. Many wrongly believe that when Jesus comes in the clouds of Glory, the SIN in their lives which so easily besets them, would be REMOVED and THEN they could go out and proclaim the final messages with power. THAT is not happening in any shape, form, or manner. In fact, the entire church appears to be in deep apostasy--the same apostasy which is prevalent throughout the world. As much as they hate the term, Laodicea, they have BECOME it to their own horror--"rich and increased with goods and in need of nothing, and knoweth not that they are wretched, poor, blind and naked."

When I first came to the Adventist church, I had no idea as to what they were talking about. I didn't even have ANY connection with ANY churches, nor did I plan to. I was there to give warnings about the children and the prophecies within their own writings as to the events which would unfold in the last days--concerning THEM mostly, but also the world. I was invited by one man to join him and his family for a Sabbath meal. As we talked, he said something that I did not understand for quite some time, nor did I see his reasoning. The term was the LAST thing that I ever thought of myself. What he said was: "We as a church have been struggling to understand and teach Righteousness by Faith--to our OWN SELVES, let alone to the world. He was SHOCKED that I walked into his life-long church and EXHIBITED a righteousness by my faith of what God was doing for me in my own life. The fact of the matter was that my "faith" had been swallowed up in VICTORY with the ministry of the Son to the Father in the church that very day. I was FULL of doubt and fear when I walked into that church. All doubt and fear fled from me that day. From that day forward, I BOLDLY proclaimed the truths of God to a church that had separated itself from the world for so long, that it had forgotten how to communicate with it. The ones who were prophesied to boldly go forward to teach the world to "Come out of her my people", feared being "dirtied" by the world. In the coming months and years, I came to understand what it really meant.

Righteousness by faith was NEVER designed around US reaching a "HOLY" place in our daily lives. It ACTUALLY had to do with the FACT that we were SINNERS--moment by moment--and there was NOTHING we could do to change that fact. It had EVERYTHING to do with a "faith procedure" that we had to learn to rely upon WHEN MINISTERING TO OTHERS. In other words, though my sin was "ever before me", I had to learn by experience not to worry about what to say or do to ALLOW God to do HIS thing. He never failed me ONCE and CONTINUALLY blew my mind as to what could be accomplished by simply believing that HE would do the work and all I had to do was be WILLING. Simple as that. This is righteousness by faith in a nutshell. The results were so amazing that thousands were touched by the Spirit in ways unimaginable. Even though it was happening to me every day, it boggled and amazed me every time.

I could tell you story after story of amazing conversions. It didn't matter what I was faced with. It was accomplished among lesbians and gays, among the most violent of criminals, among the most fringe of churches and the most fringe elements of life. I cannot look back at it and see where "I" had anything to do with it except to be willing to knock on a door, approach a stranger on the street, or strike up a conversation in a supermarket. HE always put someone in front of me. He still does.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 62067081
United States
04/30/2017 09:17 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
There is no doubt that this generation, like the generation of Christ's day, "seeketh a sign". It was quite apparent that it was important to KNOW the "sign" in order to have any degree of confidence that the "time" spoken of by Jesus was "at hand". It was mentioned in all four gospels, spoken of by Jesus several times under different conditions--and addressed to different kinds of people.

In the case of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees, each sought a sign that Jesus WAS who He claimed to be. He KNEW they were trying to set Him up as they had done many times. His answer was plain and simple and was clearly a parable so that they would NOT understand and "be converted" after the "modern order of things." He KNEW what sign they were looking for, because the J-ws were looking for a supernatural, CERTAIN event. He made it clear that they would receive no sign because they were an evil, adulterous generation--except the sign of JONAH which was a well-known story to all of them. It was not just about the the STORY of Jonah which typified the reluctance of the Chosen people of God to give warning of evil to come. It was very specifically about the "three days and three nights in the belly of the whale."

To the disciples, however, He made it quite clear (in all four gospels) that it was not just indicative of the present generation (meaning them because they were all of the belief that they would experience it all in THEIR generation--and they were only inquiring about THEIR concept of the end which was the END of the JEWISH dispensation); it was also including the complete sweep of the future and the LAST "end" which was a completely different word altogether. Thus, He was speaking BOTH their time and OUR time. Because WE are ALSO an evil, adulterous generation as well, the only sign WE would receive would be the same "three days and three nights in the heart of the EARTH."

It is only natural, then, that we should be inquiring what this "sign" entails and why it holds such importance to us in its "supernatural" aspect and its degree of CERTAINTY which we all are seeking for in this "last day" and "end" of the world. It is more than just coincidence or happenstance that this subject has been totally corrupted and misunderstood by so many for TWO THOUSAND YEARS. "History has seen to it that we DO NOT see nor do not understand what significance this sign has for us in THIS generation. Even the most learned of scholars, the most spiritually minded people from a VARIETY of churches and venues; and the most radical of thinkers throughout time have totally missed the point--and almost all of them have fallen for the lies surrounding it.

There is a long history surrounding this, and we have all lost sight of it for a variety of reasons. A book could be written on the history, alone and how the FACTS were lost, found again, lost again; and corrupted in such convoluted ways; that the truth could no longer be ascertained. This is how we have ALL come to believe the lie, and it has been a deliberate lie from day one. Even those who learned the truth had great difficulty in reconciling what was now known with what was "set in stone" in their belief structure. In the next posting (so as to not make this too long), I will attempt to relate some of the history so that we can come to some actual conclusions on the matter.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 73360297
United States
04/30/2017 11:28 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
Even just a cursory study (as I just did to refresh my memory and order my thoughts) will bear out what history teaches and how we have come to the point that we have. A few basic facts set the stage for what the controversy is all about.

I've shared this before so this is not "new". We are talking about the Passion week which included the Passover, the Feast of Unleavened bread and the six days that followed--the first and last days being Annual Sabbaths as opposed to weekly Sabbaths. The Annual Sabbaths were based on Lunar Events, whereas the weekly Sabbath occurred every seventh day on the day simply called 7th day and became known as Shabbat or Saturday of each week.

The Passover DAY (the day before the Feast of unleavened bread) was NOT a Sabbath by law. However, history has shown that the practices involved were lost at various times in antiquity. For a long time it was assumed that the Feast was only seven days in length. It is now correctly understood to be eight. The entire eight days involved the preparation and use of unleavened bread--primarily because of the imminent possibility of freedom. The first two days, Passover and the Feast allowed no work to be done--even though ONE was a Sabbath. Over time, it became TRADITIONAL to treat Passover as a Sabbath because of the similarities in observing it. The significance of this becomes apparent when the whole story is put together as a "sign".

A very, very important aspect of this story (one that is CENTRAL to understanding how to make sense of all the confusion) is the understanding of what "at even" means, what "between the evenings" means; and what history has shown it has meant to be under varying conditions. To put it into a nutshell without getting deep into it, in conservative times it was STRICTLY a period from the onset of darkness (twilight) to full darkness. Typically, this was about 30 minutes. During this period, WORK could be legally done concerning the onset of Sabbath. This was the period that Jesus was taken from the cross and laid in the tomb--just before Passover legally, but literally ON the Passover. The REAL problem arises on the NEXT day which WAS a LEGAL Sabbath (the Lunar one), there was simply no time to properly prepare the body for burial. The following day after that was the Weekly Seventh-day Sabbath and the same short period "between the evenings". This time, however, the tomb had been sealed shut.

To make a long story short, Jesus rested for one TRADITIONAL Sabbath, one LUNAR Sabbath and one Weekly Sabbath. He was laid in the grave "between the evenings" and He rose three days and three nights later "between the evenings". He never rose on Sunday because Astronomy has proven without a doubt that Passover that week fell "at even" on Thursday (Wednesday evening) and spent Thursday, Friday and Saturday in the "heart of the earth. This whole problem with the confusion revolved completly around the "set in stone" fallacy that Jesus was crucified on Friday. This has been a deliberate lie and a CONSPIRACY to muddy the issues so that a LAW of God could be changed by virtue of TRADITION ALONE and NOT by virtue of Scriptural authority.

Without this one SIGN of the value and efficacy of the Sabbath in the scheme of things which are central to understanding the Kingdom of God--not just according to the Fourth Commandment concerning the identity of the Creator, not just to identify the day of rest, not just to be the "mark" or "seal" of God's authority--but to outline the ONE PATH through the Sanctuary Service that shows without a doubt the CERTAINTY and ASSURANCE of SUCCESS of salvation and immortality via conquering time and space through the means revealed along the pathway. this can be achieved in only ONE way. ALL other paths are false and spurious. It is not just coincidence that this past week, the Pope of Rome specifically pointed out the current DANGER represented by the Seventh Day Adventist church in its evangelistic success. Though it is currently in a Laodicean condition, it will not always be so. Though it is not giving the Loud Cry as it should, when persecution raises its head as it currently is, it will grow into a world-wide movement and many of you here will join in with the messages of the angels--regardless of the danger. The "sign" is just what it is intended to be--a signpost along the way that points in the right direction.

There are many here who are awakened and aware. All that is needed is the right information to make right decisions. It's decision time and many are feeling it. I would assume that many feel the way I did--unholy, unrighteous, unprepared, UNABLE to take the next IMPORTANT steps required to "stand on Holy Ground".

Even now, I question the relevance and practical benefits of what the Kingdom of God seems to be teaching us. There is power in unity and unity is what we desperately need. This can only be achieved by a chain of truth that is unassailable from any direction. It is foretold that it would happen, and I believe that it is happening right now, right here. I've seen intimations of it in many places. I am even heartened and embolded by the LACK OF ANY KIND OF RESPONSE to this thread. This could be for a variety of reasons, of course, but I like to believe that it is for all the right ones.

For the Seventh Day Adventist, events are scary and hitting too close to home. Almost ALL of the "signs" are currently in place and it could go into overdrive at any moment. For many, what can be done NOW in a time of relative peace, will have to be done later under the worst of conditions. Sooner than later, we will hear these words and in a moment, it will be upon us: "Fear God and give HIM glory--for the HOUR of His Judgemnt IS COME." For the longest time, I have been feeling the pull of going over threshold and through the door into the Most Holy Place--boldly going to the Throne of God and SEEKING judgement. In some ways, I already have. I know that many others have as well, including many here.

In the words of another scientist, in the end all the pretty pictures, the mathematical symbols, and the other methods of measurement that determinine our reality--simply will not fly. I want to fly.

Last Edited by Zerubbabel on 04/30/2017 11:35 PM
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
Sheshba*zar
User ID: 74798505
04/30/2017 11:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
Almost 10 years...
Please a TL;DR résumé.
Zerubbabel  (OP)

User ID: 62067081
United States
05/01/2017 08:13 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: The Revelation of the Mystery of the Kingdom of God
"It was a great cross for me to relate to the erring what had been shown me concerning them. It caused me great distress to see others troubled or grieved. And when obliged to declare the messages, I would often soften them down, and make them appear as favorable for the individual as I could, and then would go by myself and weep in agony of spirit. I looked upon those who had only their own souls to care for, and thought if I were in their condition I would not murmur. It was hard to relate the plain, cutting testimonies given me of God. I anxiously watched the result, and if the persons reproved rose up against the reproof, and afterward opposed the truth, these queries would arise in my mind: Did I deliver the message just as I should? Could there not have been some way to save them? And then such distress pressed upon my soul that I often felt that death would be a welcome messenger, and the grave a sweet resting place.

I did not realize the danger and sin of such a course, until in vision I was taken into the presence of Jesus. He looked upon me with a frown, and turned His face from me. It is not possible to describe the terror and agony I then felt. I fell upon my face before Him, but had no power to utter a word. Oh, how I longed to be covered and hid from that dreadful frown! Then could I realize, in some degree, what the feelings of the lost will be when they cry: "Mountains and rocks, fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb."

Presently an angel bade me rise, and the sight that met my eyes can hardly be described. Before me was a company whose hair and garments were torn, and whose countenances were the very picture of despair and horror. They came close to me, and rubbed their garments upon mine. As I looked at my garments, I saw that they were stained with blood. Again I fell like one dead at the feet of my accompanying angel. I could not plead one excuse, and longed to be away from that holy place. The angel raised me to my feet, and said: "This is not your case now, but this scene has passed before you to let you know what your situation must be if you neglect to declare to others what the Lord has revealed to you. But if you are faithful to the end, you shall eat of the tree of life, and shall drink of the river of the water of life. You will have to suffer much, but the grace of God is sufficient." I then felt willing to do all that the Lord might require me to do, that I might have His approbation, and not feel His dreadful frown."

These are not my words, but they are my experience. This is the next subject I would like to address, because this leads us to the next great lie, the immortality of the soul and an eternal hell to torture that soul. It also ties in with the "sign" of Jonah and the results of disobeying God in giving reproving testimony to others in danger of hellfire.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.





GLP