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What happens to the national debt if interest rates rise?

 
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What happens to the national debt if interest rates rise?
It will no longer be affordable for our country to make the interest payments. At a 5% rate, interest becomes 300% of GDP in 30 years. Coupled with declining productivity which will equate to lower tax revenues they will have to figure out more ways to steal your money. Tax increases are coming. Big tax increases.
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Re: What happens to the national debt if interest rates rise?
lovecomm That's an easy one, just print more money.
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They don't call it the great reset for nothing.
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Re: What happens to the national debt if interest rates rise?
you think we can ever pay off 30 trillion?
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Re: What happens to the national debt if interest rates rise?
They collect close to 4 trillion in taxes now so yeah it's doable if they allocate a chunk of that toward paying off the principle to reduce the interest payments. I figure what they will do to accomplish that is raise taxes.
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Re: What happens to the national debt if interest rates rise?
the key is the difference between the interest rate and inflation

So when interest rates were basically 0 and inflation was 2%
they would be paying with money worth 2% less YOY.

Now even if rates hit 2%, inflation is at least 7% so the money will be payed back with a 5% PROFIT to the borrower.

How long can this happen, I don't know but it is.
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Re: What happens to the national debt if interest rates rise?
lovecomm That's an easy one, just print more money.
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They can only get away with so much though. With the Petrodollar being replaced and probable reserve status being replaced I doubt they can do that much going forward. The gamechanger is the soaring inflation. The US Dollar will become worthless. They only way they can slow down the exchange of dollars to lower inflation is to raise interest rates.
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Re: What happens to the national debt if interest rates rise?
Those who issue the debt on preferential terms to themselves pretend to no longer want it. Oops, we issued too much. How could we have not under the circumstance? There is suffering and gnashing of teeth and after a bit the suffers clamor for the issuers to start over.

The insurers call this process "great."
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The insurers are on the hook if a butterfly's wing falls into the machine and it breaks.
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Re: What happens to the national debt if interest rates rise?
Those who issue the debt on preferential terms to themselves pretend to no longer want it. Oops, we issued too much. How could we have not under the circumstance? There is suffering and gnashing of teeth and after a bit the suffers clamor for the issuers to start over.

The insurers call this process "great."
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With stagflation rearing it's ugly head, this will become the number one issue in the upcoming elections. Pretend time is over.
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Re: What happens to the national debt if interest rates rise?
Just the interest would be 1 trillion dollars which if you stacked it up in one dollar bills would measure 67,866 miles. This would reach more than one fourth the way from the earth to the moon.
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Re: What happens to the national debt if interest rates rise?
If they can still get credit the Repubs will finance the debt and The People will pay for it - while the Dems, oth, will tax The People and The People will pay it. And, the multi-multi-trillionaires in command will have a little laugh
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Re: What happens to the national debt if interest rates rise?
If they can still get credit the Repubs will finance the debt and The People will pay for it - while the Dems, oth, will tax The People and The People will pay it. And, the multi-multi-trillionaires in command will have a little laugh
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Yes. I'm surprised our AA+ credit rating has not been downgraded as of yet. Here's a list of presidents and how much the debt increased under them:

Reagan increased the debt by $1.86 trillion
Bush added $5.85 trillion
Not to be outdone Obama added $8.6 trillion
Trump tried to beat Obama but added only $6.7 trillion. I'm sure given the full 8 years Obama had, Trump would have blew that number out of the water by double.
Brandon is off to a strong start managing to increase it by 1.8 in his first year.

So there you have it. Does not matter which party it is they all love to spend our money and rip us off.
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Re: What happens to the national debt if interest rates rise?
nothing changes.

you are a life long debt slave.





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