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They said the video was shared on social media. Anyone found it? I want to know if white black whatever
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That's the most important factor of this matter? Race?

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Well, here is an overall list of nation's laws. Many say unknown- I would say that means legal/not specified one way or the other, or possibly tied in with animal cruelty, but nothing separate for bestiality. Most European nations have it against the law, and most US states. New Mexico and Wyoming have it as legal :/

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Some of the largest European states have it as legal like Germany. But its actually a problem in most European states, whether legal or not.
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So you mean to tell me you think that saying 23.5% of heart disease deaths are "black people" and that means it is impossible for the population to be 12% because that means more "black people" are dying of heart disease than actually exists (since 23.5 is more than 12) am I understanding you correctly?
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Its not about what I "think". According to statistical principles, a population will be represented at its proportion. As long as the sample is random and fits a few other criteria, then the proportion that is sampled SHOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE of the general population. That's how they can take a poll of 1000 voters, for example and get an idea of the direction the REST OF THE NATION of hundreds of millions of people will vote.

Therefore. If we are 12% of the population and heart disease accounts for 1/4 of all deaths, then our statistical representation should show us as being 3-4% of all heart disease deaths. The fact that its not only much higher than that, but also MUCH HIGHER THAN OUR TOTAL PROPORTION OF THE POPULATION indicates that either heart disease deaths rates are somehow not statistically represented accurately (not likely) or that THE CENSUS is incorrect.

If you guys were even HALF as good at statistics as you pretend to be, my argument would make sense and be self evident. Its the exact same argument that you use to imply in a racist way that we're more criminal thanks to murder stats. Your argument is that we're 54% of all murders at only 12% of the population so we must be MUCH MORE VIOLENT than everyone else. That argument is false but its based on something true, representative statistics. If we're only 14% of the population, our murder rate should reflect that, and our murder arrest rate should too.
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I know what it means, I don't think the dude going off about how much smarter he is than every body knows what it means.

If there are 650,000 heart disease deaths, and 23.5% of those that died were "black people" that means a total of 152,750 black people died of heart disease that year.

If there are 350,000,000 people in America, and 12% of them are "black people" that means a total of 42,000,000 "black people" live in America.

You mean to tell me that 152,750 is a larger number than 42,000,000?


Your hate and anger makes you incapable of seeing your irrational interpretation of numbers.

If you think "23.5% is almost twice as much as 12%, that means there isn't even enough people alive to die of heart disease."

Then you aren't very bright.
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lol, you remind me of this

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I know what it means, I don't think the dude going off about how much smarter he is than every body knows what it means.

If there are 650,000 heart disease deaths, and 23.5% of those that died were "black people" that means a total of 152,750 black people died of heart disease that year.

If there are 350,000,000 people in America, and 12% of them are "black people" that means a total of 42,000,000 "black people" live in America.

You mean to tell me that 152,750 is a larger number than 42,000,000?


Your hate and anger makes you incapable of seeing your irrational interpretation of numbers.

If you think "23.5% is almost twice as much as 12%, that means there isn't even enough people alive to die of heart disease."

Then you aren't very bright.
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You're the one who doesn't get it. You're trying to reply to a statistical argument with TOTAL NUMBERS. YOU CAN ONLY ARGUE AGAINST STATISTICS with statistical arguments. Its about PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION. If heart disease death data is STATISTICALLY REPRESENTATIVE then that means that THE DEATHS MUST BE REFLECTED IN THE GENERAL POPULATION.

That means, if we're 23% of heart disease deaths that we would have to be OVERREPRESENTED PER CAPITA. I mean, this isn't that hard. You Cuaucasians have tried to use a per capita argument to argue that we're more criminal than you for DECADES, so your sudden "but but I don't understand...." is most definitively a diversion and distraction tactic. Cuaucasians are literally a race of demons. You play dumb when someone uses your own argument but in reverse. You suddenly act like you don't know what statistics represents or what per capita means.

You never give up because you think you can use being irrational when it suits you to confuse and silence your opposition. This is dishonest and despicable behavior.
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aaah logansport. reminds me of pennsylvania
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This is very bad parenting and influence for this
to take place. I am appalled and would be so ashamed
if I was the parent of either of these girls.
This is not typical, it took planning to get away with
it and they pushed this "video" on the internet.
Our society is falling apart on moral behavior.
I'm just posting and they have one girl pictured only.
It's not what you think but...I'm not sure.


Two 12-year-old girls from Indiana were arrested for
allegedly torturing another girl at a sleepover, Fox 59
reported Tuesday.

The incident, which took place in Logansport, occurred over
the weekend, according to Fox 59. Police said they received
a call early Saturday, Feb. 26 alleging that the young girl
had been brutalized, the outlet also said.

The girls burned the other girl with cigarette lighters and
shaved part of her head, according to the victim’s family
members, the outlet reported. In addition, they cut her face
with a sharp object and sat on her for two hours so she
couldn’t breathe. The torture was reportedly captured on
video and shared.



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100% of the total population in America doesn't die of heart disease either.

I think you're making some basic logical errors which is affecting you're critical thinking... that or your understanding of statistics is flawed.

Being 23.4% of heart disease deaths doesn't mean you must be at least 23.4% of the American population because...
100% of the total population in America doesn't die of heart disease.


I would like to know what the meaning of the word N.EGRO is?
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No, you're wrong and don't understand statistics.

Neither 100% of the total population NOR 100% of N.egroes die of heart disease. I think we can agree on that.

But, if we're only 12% of the population, we shouldn't be 23% of heart disease deaths. THAT'S the impossibility. We can't have more people dying than are alive. If you only have 100 people then you can't have 2500 deaths from heart disease.

Statistical representation dictates that, barring outside factors, populations should be represented proportionally. So if we're 12% of the population, and heart disease kills roughly 1/4 of the population THEN WE SHOULD MAKE UP 3-4% of heart disease deaths. If you're going to go the racist route and say "N.egroes are just overrepresented for heart disease!"

Then, in order to be statistically sound YOU COULD SAY THAT WE'RE AT MOST 6-8% of heart disease deaths. NOT TWENTY FUCKING THREE PERCENT. That is more than our proportion of the population and indicates something is wrong somewhere. The answer is that the census is incorrect.

The only way we could be 23.5% of heart disease deaths at a fraction of that population (especially where 100% of N.egroes don't die of heart disease) would be if there was some HEART DISEASE ANOMALY that ONLY TARGETED N.EGROES. But after all the people susceptible to it died, THAT NUMBER WOULD GO DOWN TO OUR REPRESENTATIVE PROPORTION (i.e. 3-4%). The fact that it DOESN'T DO THAT, is STRONG STATISTICAL EVIDENCE that we are FAR MORE NUMEROUS than 12% of the population. This is a statistically sound argument.
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So you mean to tell me you think that saying 23.5% of heart disease deaths are "black people" and that means it is impossible for the population to be 12% because that means more "black people" are dying of heart disease than actually exists (since 23.5 is more than 12) am I understanding you correctly?
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I think it means if 100,000 people die in one year of heart disease, 23,500 of them would be Black.
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That's false, though. It is closer to 14.7%. If 100,000 people died in our country of heart disease, then an estimated 14,700 of them would be black. The poster who claimed that 23.5% of our total heart disease deaths were black was actually a complete moron who failed to understand the data he presented.

What his chart actually showed was that when we look at all black death in the country, that 23.5% of that death will be heart disease and 76.5% will be related to other things. That was mirrored in white populations as well, and is in line with the CDC statement that roughly 1 in 4 people die of heart disease.

They also believed that the fact that roughly 14.7% of our heart disease deaths were black was statistically impossible, because they believed it required over 100% of black people to die of heart disease.

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No, you're wrong and don't understand statistics.

Neither 100% of the total population NOR 100% of N.egroes die of heart disease. I think we can agree on that.

But, if we're only 12% of the population, we shouldn't be 23% of heart disease deaths. THAT'S the impossibility. We can't have more people dying than are alive. If you only have 100 people then you can't have 2500 deaths from heart disease.

Statistical representation dictates that, barring outside factors, populations should be represented proportionally. So if we're 12% of the population, and heart disease kills roughly 1/4 of the population THEN WE SHOULD MAKE UP 3-4% of heart disease deaths. If you're going to go the racist route and say "N.egroes are just overrepresented for heart disease!"

Then, in order to be statistically sound YOU COULD SAY THAT WE'RE AT MOST 6-8% of heart disease deaths. NOT TWENTY FUCKING THREE PERCENT. That is more than our proportion of the population and indicates something is wrong somewhere. The answer is that the census is incorrect.

The only way we could be 23.5% of heart disease deaths at a fraction of that population (especially where 100% of N.egroes don't die of heart disease) would be if there was some HEART DISEASE ANOMALY that ONLY TARGETED N.EGROES. But after all the people susceptible to it died, THAT NUMBER WOULD GO DOWN TO OUR REPRESENTATIVE PROPORTION (i.e. 3-4%). The fact that it DOESN'T DO THAT, is STRONG STATISTICAL EVIDENCE that we are FAR MORE NUMEROUS than 12% of the population. This is a statistically sound argument.
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So you mean to tell me you think that saying 23.5% of heart disease deaths are "black people" and that means it is impossible for the population to be 12% because that means more "black people" are dying of heart disease than actually exists (since 23.5 is more than 12) am I understanding you correctly?
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I think it means if 100,000 people die in one year of heart disease, 23,500 of them would be Black.
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That's false, though. It is closer to 14.7%. If 100,000 people died in our country of heart disease, then an estimated 14,700 of them would be black. The poster who claimed that 23.5% of our total heart disease deaths were black was actually a complete moron who failed to understand the data he presented.

What his chart actually showed was that when we look at all black death in the country, that 23.5% of that death will be heart disease and 76.5% will be related to other things. That was mirrored in white populations as well, and is in line with the CDC statement that roughly 1 in 4 people die of heart disease.

They also believed that the fact that roughly 14.7% of our heart disease deaths were black was statistically impossible, because they believed it required over 100% of black people to die of heart disease.

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You're lying. I didn't misunderstand or misrepresent anything. The chart clearly states:

"Below are the percentages of all deaths caused by heart disease in 2015, listed by ethnicity, race, and sex.5"

YOu're clearly being deceptive. If 1/4 deaths are caused by heart disease then that means that 1/4 of indigenous N.egro deaths should be heart disease, not that N.egroes should be 1/4 of all heart disease deaths. I.e we should be 1/4*.12 = 3-4% of heart disease deaths. However, that chart CLEARLY SHOWS that N.egroes are 23.5% of heart disease deaths for 2015.

You are trying to muddy the waters and twist data in order to hide the truth. And even if it were only 14.7% of the deaths, it is statistically impossible for us to be 12% of the population yet 14% of heart disease deaths. This is what representative statistics means. If you're 12% of heart disease deaths, your death rate should match your proportion of the population. How can you be overrepresented for heart disease deaths at basically 2 times your population number? Its impossible.
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That's false, though. It is closer to 14.7%. If 100,000 people died in our country of heart disease, then an estimated 14,700 of them would be black. The poster who claimed that 23.5% of our total heart disease deaths were black was actually a complete moron who failed to understand the data he presented.

What his chart actually showed was that when we look at all black death in the country, that 23.5% of that death will be heart disease and 76.5% will be related to other things. That was mirrored in white populations as well, and is in line with the CDC statement that roughly 1 in 4 people die of heart disease.

They also believed that the fact that roughly 14.7% of our heart disease deaths were black was statistically impossible, because they believed it required over 100% of black people to die of heart disease.

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You're lying. I didn't misunderstand or misrepresent anything. The chart clearly states:

"Below are the percentages of all deaths caused by heart disease in 2015, listed by ethnicity, race, and sex.5"

YOu're clearly being deceptive. If 1/4 deaths are caused by heart disease then that means that 1/4 of indigenous N.egro deaths should be heart disease, not that N.egroes should be 1/4 of all heart disease deaths. I.e we should be 1/4*.12 = 3-4% of heart disease deaths. However, that chart CLEARLY SHOWS that N.egroes are 23.5% of heart disease deaths for 2015.

You are trying to muddy the waters and twist data in order to hide the truth. And even if it were only 14.7% of the deaths, it is statistically impossible for us to be 12% of the population yet 14% of heart disease deaths. This is what representative statistics means. If you're 12% of heart disease deaths, your death rate should match your proportion of the population. How can you be overrepresented for heart disease deaths at basically 2 times your population number? Its impossible.
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Therefore. If we are 12% of the population and heart disease accounts for 1/4 of all deaths, then our statistical representation should show us as being 3-4% of all heart disease deaths. The fact that its not only much higher than that, but also MUCH HIGHER THAN OUR TOTAL PROPORTION OF THE POPULATION indicates that either heart disease deaths rates are somehow not statistically represented accurately (not likely) or that THE CENSUS is incorrect.

If you guys were even HALF as good at statistics as you pretend to be, my argument would make sense and be self evident. Its the exact same argument that you use to imply in a racist way that we're more criminal thanks to murder stats. Your argument is that we're 54% of all murders at only 12% of the population so we must be MUCH MORE VIOLENT than everyone else. That argument is false but its based on something true, representative statistics. If we're only 14% of the population, our murder rate should reflect that, and our murder arrest rate should too.
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No, all things equal, 12% of a population would be expected to account for about 12% of heart disease deaths. You do not divide that by 4. If 12% of a population only accounted for 3-4% of heart disease deaths, then it would mean that 12% are far less likely to die of heart disease than the general population.

All things are not equal, though. We have differing genetics, incomes, upbringings, etc... Factoring that in, blacks, who amount to about 12% of our population account for about 14.7% of our heart disease deaths.

Once again, you fail at simple math. Your argument makes sense to nobody, and it is not the same argument the "racists" throw back at you. To say that 56% of our murders are committed by 12% of the population (blacks) is a powerful case that those 12% of the population are problematic.

With that said, I find it comical that you bash anybody for "racism", given your overt racism.
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So you mean to tell me you think that saying 23.5% of heart disease deaths are "black people" and that means it is impossible for the population to be 12% because that means more "black people" are dying of heart disease than actually exists (since 23.5 is more than 12) am I understanding you correctly?
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Its not about what I "think". According to statistical principles, a population will be represented at its proportion. As long as the sample is random and fits a few other criteria, then the proportion that is sampled SHOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE of the general population. That's how they can take a poll of 1000 voters, for example and get an idea of the direction the REST OF THE NATION of hundreds of millions of people will vote.

Therefore. If we are 12% of the population and heart disease accounts for 1/4 of all deaths, then our statistical representation should show us as being 3-4% of all heart disease deaths. The fact that its not only much higher than that, but also MUCH HIGHER THAN OUR TOTAL PROPORTION OF THE POPULATION indicates that either heart disease deaths rates are somehow not statistically represented accurately (not likely) or that THE CENSUS is incorrect.

If you guys were even HALF as good at statistics as you pretend to be, my argument would make sense and be self evident. Its the exact same argument that you use to imply in a racist way that we're more criminal thanks to murder stats. Your argument is that we're 54% of all murders at only 12% of the population so we must be MUCH MORE VIOLENT than everyone else. That argument is false but its based on something true, representative statistics. If we're only 14% of the population, our murder rate should reflect that, and our murder arrest rate should too.
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Fried food is a heart killer, could it be this population does not eat as healthy? I’m thinking you might be ignoring this.
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sounds like pretty tame emo teen girl shit, i was expecting a 'reservoir dogs' re-enactment 1dunno1
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There’s video. They sat on her til she couldn’t breathe,,cut her face, burned her skin with cigarette lighters. Many injuries.
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I am sure the civil rights marchers will go crazy then, just like for George Floyd. Oh, if she's white, then I guess its OK.
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Therefore. If we are 12% of the population and heart disease accounts for 1/4 of all deaths, then our statistical representation should show us as being 3-4% of all heart disease deaths. The fact that its not only much higher than that, but also MUCH HIGHER THAN OUR TOTAL PROPORTION OF THE POPULATION indicates that either heart disease deaths rates are somehow not statistically represented accurately (not likely) or that THE CENSUS is incorrect.

If you guys were even HALF as good at statistics as you pretend to be, my argument would make sense and be self evident. Its the exact same argument that you use to imply in a racist way that we're more criminal thanks to murder stats. Your argument is that we're 54% of all murders at only 12% of the population so we must be MUCH MORE VIOLENT than everyone else. That argument is false but its based on something true, representative statistics. If we're only 14% of the population, our murder rate should reflect that, and our murder arrest rate should too.
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No, all things equal, 12% of a population would be expected to account for about 12% of heart disease deaths. You do not divide that by 4. If 12% of a population only accounted for 3-4% of heart disease deaths, then it would mean that 12% are far less likely to die of heart disease than the general population.

All things are not equal, though. We have differing genetics, incomes, upbringings, etc... Factoring that in, blacks, who amount to about 12% of our population account for about 14.7% of our heart disease deaths.

Once again, you fail at simple math. Your argument makes sense to nobody, and it is not the same argument the "racists" throw back at you. To say that 56% of our murders are committed by 12% of the population (blacks) is a powerful case that those 12% of the population are problematic.

With that said, I find it comical that you bash anybody for "racism", given your overt racism.
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No that's wrong because Heart disease ISN'T THE ONLY THING THAT KILLS PEOPLE. So 12% of the population would be expected to be ~1/4 or roughly 3-4% of heart disease deaths. And 12% is still smaller than 14%, so even if you were correct (and you're not), 14% of heart disease deaths would still be anomalous because its greater than the representation of the population.

You divide by 4 because heart disease is responsible for about a quarter of all deaths. You are really showing your mathematical illiteracy now lmao after all that big talk earlier too....

No, that's not true about the " then it would mean that 12% are far less likely to die of heart disease than the general population."

You're trying to turn the argument on its head. You guys are arguing that Cuaucasians are 70% of the population and N.egroes are 12% and others make up the rest. But that can't be true and it doesn't make sense. So you're only 23% of heart disease deaths @ 70% of the population? How can we be 23% as well at 12% of the population?? That doesn't make any sense.

There is no difference in genetics, income or upbringing that will make us overreprsented for heart disease deaths more than our proportion of the population. That's not how statistics work. Eventually, whatever it was would cause those people to die off and the heart disease deaths would fall in line with our proportion of the population.

Finally, you're the one who fails at simple math. You don't have the right to speak for anyone else and say my argument doesn't make sense to them. That you would try something like that means you know you don't have an actual argument.

Its statistically impossible for 12% of the population to be 54% of murders. You want to believe that because you're a racist asshole who wants to hide the fact that you are 70% of criminal arrests and much less numerous than the census implies.
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So you mean to tell me you think that saying 23.5% of heart disease deaths are "black people" and that means it is impossible for the population to be 12% because that means more "black people" are dying of heart disease than actually exists (since 23.5 is more than 12) am I understanding you correctly?
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Its not about what I "think". According to statistical principles, a population will be represented at its proportion. As long as the sample is random and fits a few other criteria, then the proportion that is sampled SHOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE of the general population. That's how they can take a poll of 1000 voters, for example and get an idea of the direction the REST OF THE NATION of hundreds of millions of people will vote.

Therefore. If we are 12% of the population and heart disease accounts for 1/4 of all deaths, then our statistical representation should show us as being 3-4% of all heart disease deaths. The fact that its not only much higher than that, but also MUCH HIGHER THAN OUR TOTAL PROPORTION OF THE POPULATION indicates that either heart disease deaths rates are somehow not statistically represented accurately (not likely) or that THE CENSUS is incorrect.

If you guys were even HALF as good at statistics as you pretend to be, my argument would make sense and be self evident. Its the exact same argument that you use to imply in a racist way that we're more criminal thanks to murder stats. Your argument is that we're 54% of all murders at only 12% of the population so we must be MUCH MORE VIOLENT than everyone else. That argument is false but its based on something true, representative statistics. If we're only 14% of the population, our murder rate should reflect that, and our murder arrest rate should too.
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Fried food is a heart killer, could it be this population does not eat as healthy? I’m thinking you might be ignoring this.
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No. It has nothing to do with those outliers. It is STATISTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for 12% of the population to consistently be overrepresented at 23.5% of heart disease deaths. It doesn't happen. That's more than our proportion of the population. We can't be 1/4 of heart disease deaths if we're only 12% of the population. Also N.egroes are HEALTHIER than Cuaucasians are so there's no way that you're "70% of the population but only 23.7% of heart disease deaths". That doesn't make sense either, we're not more sickly than you are.
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So you mean to tell me you think that saying 23.5% of heart disease deaths are "black people" and that means it is impossible for the population to be 12% because that means more "black people" are dying of heart disease than actually exists (since 23.5 is more than 12) am I understanding you correctly?
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Its not about what I "think". According to statistical principles, a population will be represented at its proportion. As long as the sample is random and fits a few other criteria, then the proportion that is sampled SHOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE of the general population. That's how they can take a poll of 1000 voters, for example and get an idea of the direction the REST OF THE NATION of hundreds of millions of people will vote.

Therefore. If we are 12% of the population and heart disease accounts for 1/4 of all deaths, then our statistical representation should show us as being 3-4% of all heart disease deaths. The fact that its not only much higher than that, but also MUCH HIGHER THAN OUR TOTAL PROPORTION OF THE POPULATION indicates that either heart disease deaths rates are somehow not statistically represented accurately (not likely) or that THE CENSUS is incorrect.

If you guys were even HALF as good at statistics as you pretend to be, my argument would make sense and be self evident. Its the exact same argument that you use to imply in a racist way that we're more criminal thanks to murder stats. Your argument is that we're 54% of all murders at only 12% of the population so we must be MUCH MORE VIOLENT than everyone else. That argument is false but its based on something true, representative statistics. If we're only 14% of the population, our murder rate should reflect that, and our murder arrest rate should too.
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Fried food is a heart killer, could it be this population does not eat as healthy? I’m thinking you might be ignoring this.
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No. It has nothing to do with those outliers. It is STATISTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for 12% of the population to consistently be overrepresented at 23.5% of heart disease deaths. It doesn't happen. That's more than our proportion of the population. We can't be 1/4 of heart disease deaths if we're only 12% of the population. Also N.egroes are HEALTHIER than Cuaucasians are so there's no way that you're "70% of the population but only 23.7% of heart disease deaths". That doesn't make sense either, we're not more sickly than you are.
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This is the last time I am going to correct you. Your chart does not say that blacks account for 23.5% of our total heart disease deaths. It says that of all blacks who have died that year, 23.5% of them died because of heart disease. Likewise, your chart does not say that "cuaucasians", who amount to ~71% of our population only account for 23.7% of our annual heart disease deaths. What your chart actually says is that of all "cuaucasians" who have died that year, 23.7% of those deaths are a result of heart disease.

This should be obvious to anybody with an IQ higher than plant life, because if we simply take their stated numbers and divide total black heart disease deaths by total heart disease deaths, we get roughly 0.147, or 14.7%. Blacks, who amount to 12% of our population account for 14.7% of our heart disease deaths.

Alternatively, you can just look at stated racial heart disease death rates per 10,000 to see your hilarious error.

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This is the last time I am going to correct you. Your chart does not say that blacks account for 23.5% of our total heart disease deaths. It says that of all blacks who have died, 23.5% of them die because of heart disease. Likewise, your chart does not say that "cuaucasians", who amount to ~71% of our population only account for 23.7% of our heart disease deaths. What your chart actually says is that of all "cuaucasians" who have died, 23.7% of those deaths are a result of heart disease.

This should be obvious to anybody with an IQ higher than plant life, because if we simply take their stated numbers and divide total black heart disease deaths by total heart disease deaths, we get roughly 0.147, or 14.7%. Blacks, who amount to 12% of our population account for 14.7% of our heart disease deaths.
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You have never corrected me even once on points that matter. Looks like you have trouble counting too!

The chart says, "Below are the percentages of all deaths caused by heart disease in 2015, listed by ethnicity, race, and sex.5"

So your statement is wrong. Its talking about ALL DEATHS caused by heart disease, and then it lists the race. How can you say you're correcting me when your words directly contradict the source? The chart says clearly that indigenous American N.egroes are 23.5% of deaths due to heart disease. It literally says "% of Deaths" right there. Do you know what "percent" means? It means PER HUNDRED (cent). So 23.5 heart disease deaths are N.egroes. You're wrong.

And 12% of your population being overrepresented for heart disease DEATHS @14% is statistically impossible.
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I don't think anyone is purposefully trying to confuse the other I personally am trying to understand exactly what your point is.

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

On page 2 it lists deaths by race for 2014 and 2015.

For 2015 total number of deaths 2,712,630:
Non-Hispanic black male 161,850
Non-Hispanic black female 153,404
equals 315254 total black people died in 2015.

In 2015, 11.621% of all deaths in the USA were black people.

According to [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] 23.5% of black deaths are due to heart disease. 0.235(315,254)=74084.69 so one would expect ~74,084 black people died of heart disease in 2015.

Diseases of heart (heart disease) 633,842 (23.4% of total deaths).
74,084/633,842 = 0.11688 aka 11.688% (Not sure where you got the other numbers from as I don't feel like combing through the thread).

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2015 total deaths 2,712,630
Non-Hispanic white male 1,063,705
Non-Hispanic white female 1,059,926
total white deaths: 2,123,631
0.7828 whites are 78.28% of total deaths in 2015.

23.7% of White non-hispanic deaths are from heart disease.
.237(2,123,631)=503,300.547

~503,300 deaths from heart disease.

503,300/533,842 = .7940 = 79.4% of heart disease deaths are white people.

lets try this one 503,300/74,084= 6.79 = For every 1 black person that died of heart disease in 2015, there were 6.79 white people that died of heart disease.

78% / 12% = 6.5.



According to this data, black people are ~12% of heart disease deaths.

How does this prove that black people are greater than 12% of the population?
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I don't think anyone is purposefully trying to confuse the other I personally am trying to understand exactly what your point is.

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

On page 2 it lists deaths by race for 2014 and 2015.

For 2015 total number of deaths 2,712,630:
Non-Hispanic black male 161,850
Non-Hispanic black female 153,404
equals 315254 total black people died in 2015.

In 2015, 11.621% of all deaths in the USA were black people.

According to [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] 23.5% of black deaths are due to heart disease. 0.235(315,254)=74084.69 so one would expect ~74,084 black people died of heart disease in 2015.

Diseases of heart (heart disease) 633,842 (23.4% of total deaths).
74,084/633,842 = 0.11688 aka 11.688% (Not sure where you got the other numbers from as I don't feel like combing through the thread).

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2015 total deaths 2,712,630
Non-Hispanic white male 1,063,705
Non-Hispanic white female 1,059,926
total white deaths: 2,123,631
0.7828 whites are 78.28% of total deaths in 2015.

23.7% of White non-hispanic deaths are from heart disease.
.237(2,123,631)=503,300.547

~503,300 deaths from heart disease.

503,300/533,842 = .7940 = 79.4% of heart disease deaths are white people.

lets try this one 503,300/74,084= 6.79 = For every 1 black person that died of heart disease in 2015, there were 6.79 white people that died of heart disease.

78% / 12% = 6.5.



According to this data, black people are ~12% of heart disease deaths.

How does this prove that black people are greater than 12% of the population?
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^^

First of all, we're not black. We're white. Black means criminal and foreigner. White means indigenous, that's us.

Secondly, according to:

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

N.egroes account for 23.5% of heart disease deaths, while Cuaucasians account for 23.7%

And according to:

[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

"During the study period, both indigenous N.egroes and Cuaucasians experienced substantial decreases in heart disease death rates, from 1,071.6 to 396.0 per 100,000 for indigenous N.egroes and from 1,032.3 to 326.3 per 100,000 for Cuaucasians. (Table 2)."

So once again, Cuaucasians and N.egroes have similar rates of death from heart disease, 1071 per 100,000 at the beginning for N.egroes and 1032 per 100,000 at the beginning for Cuaucasians. Then it decreased to roughly the same rate again at the end, 396 per 100,000 for N.egroes and 326 per 100,000 for Cuaucasians.
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Your interpretation of the data is incorrect.

If you add up the percentages, you get more than 100% because the percentages isn't broken down as percentage of heart disease deaths measured against total heart disease deaths.

The percentage is measured within race as a percentage of all deaths of that specific race.

The chart is NOT saying that 23.4% of heart disease deaths were "black people." It IS saying that of all causes of death for black people, 23.4% was heart disease.

I've already proven that ~12% of all heart disease deaths were "black people."

(not going to debate your non-sequitur about terminology of black/white as it isn't relevant to your position that heart disease deaths prove the "black" population is greater than 12%.)


Care to explain to me what the word N.EGRO means?
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Your interpretation of the data is incorrect.

If you add up the percentages, you get more than 100% because the percentages isn't broken down as percentage of heart disease deaths measured against total heart disease deaths.

The percentage is measured within race as a percentage of all deaths of that specific race.

The chart is NOT saying that 23.4% of heart disease deaths were "black people." It IS saying that of all causes of death for black people, 23.4% was heart disease.

I've already proven that ~12% of all heart disease deaths were "black people."

(not going to debate your non-sequitur about terminology of black/white as it isn't relevant to your position that heart disease deaths prove the "black" population is greater than 12%.)


Care to explain to me what the word N.EGRO means?
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Hey, hey, we got a special kind of idiot here.

Can't get one thing right.
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Your interpretation of the data is incorrect.

If you add up the percentages, you get more than 100% because the percentages isn't broken down as percentage of heart disease deaths measured against total heart disease deaths.

The percentage is measured within race as a percentage of all deaths of that specific race.

The chart is NOT saying that 23.4% of heart disease deaths were "black people." It IS saying that of all causes of death for black people, 23.4% was heart disease.

I've already proven that ~12% of all heart disease deaths were "black people."

(not going to debate your non-sequitur about terminology of black/white as it isn't relevant to your position that heart disease deaths prove the "black" population is greater than 12%.)


Care to explain to me what the word N.EGRO means?
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No, you get more than 100% because they include races AND ETHNIC GROUPS. Hispanics can be both N.egro and Cuaucasian so there's over lap that adds up to more than 100%.

Can you not read? The chart CLEARLY SAYS: Below are the percentages of ALL deaths caused by heart disease in 2015, listed by ethnicity, race, and sex.5"

Do you know what ALL means? In English ALL MEANS 100%. So if you divide that by race and say that N.egroes are 23.5% then that means that of ALL HEART DISEASE DEATHS, N.egroes are 23.5%. You guys are spinning your wheels to AVOID ADMITTING that this data indicates you're wrong.

It also clearly says "% of Deaths". I mean it doesn't get any clearer than that. Your proof is wrong. According to this data in 2015, N.egroes are 23.5% of heart disease deaths.

You can't debate my point about the word definitions and it is NOT non-sequitur. The point is that cuaucasians are committing vast fraud by lying about the census while hiding it in other stats, the fact that you also refer to us with YOUR STATUS fits right in line with that accusation.
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Your interpretation of the data is incorrect.

If you add up the percentages, you get more than 100% because the percentages isn't broken down as percentage of heart disease deaths measured against total heart disease deaths.

The percentage is measured within race as a percentage of all deaths of that specific race.

The chart is NOT saying that 23.4% of heart disease deaths were "black people." It IS saying that of all causes of death for black people, 23.4% was heart disease.

I've already proven that ~12% of all heart disease deaths were "black people."

(not going to debate your non-sequitur about terminology of black/white as it isn't relevant to your position that heart disease deaths prove the "black" population is greater than 12%.)


Care to explain to me what the word N.EGRO means?
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Hey, hey, we got a special kind of idiot here.

Can't get one thing right.
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hesright
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18.3+21.4+23.5+23.7+20.3=107.2% ?

That's nonsensical. That's because those numbers aren't contained within a single set. They are percentages within their own sets measured against each other to get a comparison on the rates of death due to heart disease by race.


18.3% of American Indian or Alaska Native that die will die of heart disease.

21.4% of Asian American or Pacific Islanders that die will die of heart disease.

23.5% of Black (Non-Hispanic)that die will die of heart disease.

23.7% of White (Non-Hispanic) that die will die of heart disease.

20.3% of Hispanic that die will die of heart disease.

Of all the people that die, 23.4% will die of heart disease.

Diseases of heart 633,842/ total deaths 2,712,630 = 0.234 = 23.4% of people that die will die of heart disease.
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18.3+21.4+23.5+23.7+20.3=107.2% ?

That's nonsensical. That's because those numbers aren't contained within a single set. They are percentages within their own sets measured against each other to get a comparison on the rates of death due to heart disease by race.


18.3% of American Indian or Alaska Native that die will die of heart disease.

21.4% of Asian American or Pacific Islanders that die will die of heart disease.

23.5% of Black (Non-Hispanic)that die will die of heart disease.

23.7% of White (Non-Hispanic) that die will die of heart disease.

20.3% of Hispanic that die will die of heart disease.

Of all the people that die, 23.4% will die of heart disease.

Diseases of heart 633,842/ total deaths 2,712,630 = 0.234 = 23.4% of people that die will die of heart disease.
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Once again, the number is greater than 100% because they include hispanics which skews the data.

If the number wasn't 23.5% for N.egroes, they couldn't say that heart disease causes about 1/4 of all deaths.

Everybody dies, 100%. You're just adding unnecessary qualifiers. If we're 12% of the population, then 23.5% of our deaths should come out to 2.82% of ALL HEART DISEASE deaths. That's clearly NOT THE CASE. The link states we are 23.5% of ALL heart disease deaths.
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You lack basic comprehension.

"18.2% of deaths of American Indian or Alaska Native will be due to heart disease" is what the chart is plainly stating.

You're interpreting it as "18.2% of heart disease deaths were American Indian or Alaska Native" which is not what is being stated.

If it was breaking it down the way you say it is, then how come when you add up men and women numbers you don't get 100%??

Are you suggesting that nearly half of the heart disease deaths are non-binary/not man or woman???
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The fact that it says "23.9% of black men that die will die from heart disease and 23.1% of black women that die will die from heart disease" (Hint: That's apx 1 in 4) but that only equals 47% so tell me where the rest of your heart disease deaths are? You telling me 53% of the black people dying of heart disease are neither man nor woman???
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This is like 5th grade level shit





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